This isn't funcom, but it's exactly what funcom did. Insiders play til endgame and give rave reviews, the rest of the people play only the 'finished' areas.
We don't know yet till the NDA drops... If it doesn't, then yes... it's exactly what funcom did for all WE know... even tho it might be pre-launch what funcom did and the game still might be finished...
I should hand out tin-foil hats, cookies and "wait till the nda drops" notes to all the doom prophets... ad if they pay me i'll be rich soon... then i can quit my job and play WAR 24/7
As long as WAR lifts NDA on the WHOLE game at the same time - I couldn't care less. What is important to know is that when open beta starts, the game still has some time to relsease and higher lvls can still be tweaked and balanced. So its important that the high lvl content will still have PPL playing it at this stage.
If on the other hand - the closed beta servers will still be under NDA and most of the ppl that were in closed beta are gone to open beta (noone playing high end closed beta servers) it should raise eyebrows and alot of warning bells should be ringing.
What we do know is that there will be no city battles in Open beta. What we need to be 100% sure of is that NDA IS lifted of this content to make sure it even exists and has been fully tested. It was not tested and did not exist in AOC - thus NDA was not lifted.
And for the life of god it's still 'BETA' not a demo, not a free trial, it's to test the bloody game more than they could with smaller amounts in the closed BETA.... I'm not in the closed beta but I can guess that the 'End game' (god I hate that phrase) has been tested and tested and bloody well tested more ..
Open beta is more of a stress test, gives the dev's chance to see how the hardware hacks it etc..
Stop comparing WAR to other games and give them a chance .... and feel free the flame away if they do (and a hope they don't) get it wrong
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And for the life of god it's still 'BETA' not a demo, not a free trial, it's to test the bloody game more than they could with smaller amounts in the closed BETA.... I'm not in the closed beta but I can guess that the 'End game' (god I hate that phrase) has been tested and tested and bloody well tested more ..
Open beta is more of a stress test, gives the dev's chance to see how the hardware hacks it etc..
Stop comparing WAR to other games and give them a chance .... and feel free the flame away if they do (and a hope they don't) get it right My 2p (Since I cant afford a plan ticket to the USofA)
Both devs and gamers learn from each other. This is how we humans evolve over time. If we all have to start on making fire and discovering the wheel - then we would not be playing computer games - Would we ?
Gamers have learned that MMO devs are launching games in unacceptable state.
Devs have learned that some ppl find it ok for an MMO game to be launched without delivering what is said to be in the box.
In other words - PPl have all right to be sceptic. Its the devs to proof those ppl wrong. Or maybe tell ppl about the true state of the game instead of promising something that they dont actually have in the game.
I don't know.. all I've heard is that the point of Warhammer is not the leveling part, it is the endgame RvR. So basically beta testers are not going to get to see the 'meat' of this game at all. The meat of the game begins at level one. The meat of the game is RvR. You have Open world RvR, Scenarios, PQ's, and all the associated systems from lvl 1..there's no reason to have access to all the Teir 3 & 4 content. I've played in alot of Open Beta's and almost ALL of them have restrictions. Open Beta is essentially a trial run & a stress test. In a weeks' time you wouldn't reach the End Game anyway it takes nearly a month to get the City Siege locked down. I'm also very weary of the 'elite' beta testers that actually will get to play til endgame. The "elite" beta testers as you call us get to play to the end and watch it change 100 x million times as they impliment new things, remove bad things etc. If they give you end game during a TRIAL whats the damn point of buying? Srory this is a lame excuse of a whine by you here OP...THERE is no game on the PLANET that gives you complete access for a Play test trial. They don't need 1000000 noobs coming in for a week to cry omg?! nerf nerf. Open beta is a PLAY TEST. If long time closed beta testers didn't catch it they sure aren't going to listen to someone there for a week with no credibility. Usually they are bigtime insiders or reporters from gamesites (that make money on advertisments). This is completely false. Reporters don't get into Beta until nearly the end other than that they get a client version to play test during interviews and only get an hour at most to play. (read the articles closer even they say that). AoC had a huge group of these players that touted how great the game was all the way to 80. Almost every article written before the game launch said it was 'amazing'. AoC's beta testers actually cried fowl alot...Funcom didn't listen to them so you can't blame the fubar on the beta testers stop whining & qqing the exit is at the left if you expect ANY game to give you full access 20 levels 2 tiers, 3 keeps several objectives to fight over 6 scenarios and tons of pq's etc to play with is more than enough for a week. limiting your open beta to about 1/5 of the content (remember, EVERYONE is saying the game doesn't really start til lvl 40)..... to me, that is just a huge red flag and definitely means I"m going to be waiting until 2 months after launch to buy the game. Only power levelers are sayign the game doesn't start till 40 its total bs the whole damn game gives you access to EVERYTHING. PVP fromt he begining PVE from the beginning OPEN RVR from the beginning you can even SIEGE at lvl 1 if you wanted too (tho you'd die). This isn't funcom, but it's exactly what funcom did. Insiders play til endgame and give rave reviews, the rest of the people play only the 'finished' areas.
Your whine & cheese are exit stage left. AoC gave you the tutoria levels to play and effectively covered up player cities, crafting etc.
WAR on the other hand ou get to craft, you get to fight over keeps, you get to fight over land, you get scenarios, you get tome unlocks, you get hidden easter eggs, you get a PREVIEW of every MAJOR system except for the Siege..which wouldn't be possible anyway within a week anyway.
WAR is giving you "near" half of the game (i say near because there's alot more at end game). You don't need to experience all the Tier's for a trial if you dont like the game by the end if Tier 1 then you'll never like the game.
Again BETA is still BETA!!!!! they are going to do server resets and run a test plans and server stress tests do not be surpised if a server goes down that can happen. THIS IS NOT A DEMO!!!!. People need to get it in their head YOU WILL KEEP NOTHING OUT OF OPEN BETA!!!! you will loose everything out of it and have to restart characters and alts with head start.
Sorry but when you offer beta for money, when you use beta as a selling point, hiding content cuts and all (but that's another story), it distorts the true meaning of a beta and it becomes something else, much closer to a demo.
And for the life of god it's still 'BETA' not a demo, not a free trial, it's to test the bloody game more than they could with smaller amounts in the closed BETA.... I'm not in the closed beta but I can guess that the 'End game' (god I hate that phrase) has been tested and tested and bloody well tested more ..
Open beta is more of a stress test, gives the dev's chance to see how the hardware hacks it etc..
Stop comparing WAR to other games and give them a chance .... and feel free the flame away if they do (and a hope they don't) get it right My 2p (Since I cant afford a plan ticket to the USofA)
Both devs and gamers learn from each other. This is how we humans evolve over time. If we all have to start on making fire and discovering the wheel - then we would not be playing computer games - Would we ?
Gamers have learned that MMO devs are launching games in unacceptable state.
Devs have learned that some ppl find it ok for an MMO game to be launched without delivering what is said to be in the box.
In other words - PPl have all right to be sceptic. Its the devs to proof those ppl wrong. Or maybe tell ppl about the true state of the game instead of promising something that they dont actually have in the game.
Again BETA is still BETA!!!!! they are going to do server resets and run a test plans and server stress tests do not be surpised if a server goes down that can happen. THIS IS NOT A DEMO!!!!. People need to get it in their head YOU WILL KEEP NOTHING OUT OF OPEN BETA!!!! you will loose everything out of it and have to restart characters and alts with head start.
Sorry but when you offer beta for money, when you use beta as a selling point, hiding content cuts and all (but that's another story), it distorts the true meaning of a beta and it becomes something else, much closer to a demo.
Good thing they don't acually hide that they cut content.
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Again BETA is still BETA!!!!! they are going to do server resets and run a test plans and server stress tests do not be surpised if a server goes down that can happen. THIS IS NOT A DEMO!!!!. People need to get it in their head YOU WILL KEEP NOTHING OUT OF OPEN BETA!!!! you will loose everything out of it and have to restart characters and alts with head start.
Sorry but when you offer beta for money, when you use beta as a selling point, hiding content cuts and all (but that's another story), it distorts the true meaning of a beta and it becomes something else, much closer to a demo.
Good thing they don't acually hide that they cut content.
In a sense all the cities are back in with the new pod cast. Just two major huge cities and the rest are now are called fortresses. I actually think this is a good idea. Having 3 separate major city battles would spread out the player base too much too be able to concentrate on one city.
Uh yea it did...DX10 anyone is that in the game yet? Its a LAUNCH feature that wasn't noted as not included until after launch or rather a day before. How about them Player Keep sieges...yep not in at launch they purposely had the ability to rank your player city high enough to go after a keep disabled so you couldnt' siege and of course we see why. How about PvP Levels? Those are basically not just delayed but cut.
AoC was NOT ready for launch and testers said so in their up roars....you've got a WAR beta tester several sitting here telling you that the WAR devs aren't lying to you. I understand the skeptism to whether or not its actually good because thats a personal opinion but they aren't HIDING any of the systems by only giving you up through Tier 2.
All the major systems are available you just can't City Siege which is not an acction that'd be available within a WEEK anyway.
And for the life of god it's still 'BETA' not a demo, not a free trial, it's to test the bloody game more than they could with smaller amounts in the closed BETA.... I'm not in the closed beta but I can guess that the 'End game' (god I hate that phrase) has been tested and tested and bloody well tested more ..
Open beta is more of a stress test, gives the dev's chance to see how the hardware hacks it etc..
Stop comparing WAR to other games and give them a chance .... and feel free the flame away if they do (and a hope they don't) get it right My 2p (Since I cant afford a plan ticket to the USofA)
Both devs and gamers learn from each other. This is how we humans evolve over time. If we all have to start on making fire and discovering the wheel - then we would not be playing computer games - Would we ?
Gamers have learned that MMO devs are launching games in unacceptable state.
Devs have learned that some ppl find it ok for an MMO game to be launched without delivering what is said to be in the box.
In other words - PPl have all right to be sceptic. Its the devs to proof those ppl wrong. Or maybe tell ppl about the true state of the game instead of promising something that they dont actually have in the game.
innocent until proven guilty ?
Thats a rule made for ppl. It does not "scale" well with money. Just ask the prince from Nigeria that sent you email last night.
In a sense all the cities are back in with the new pod cast. Just two major huge cities and the rest are now are called fortresses. I actually think this is a good idea. Having 3 separate major city battles would spread out the player base too much too be able to concentrate on one city.
No they are NOT in a sense back in the game. When they removed the cities they never removed Tier 4 for the affected realms. They only made the Fortress's even BIGGER than they were before. THey're basically giant Keeps. They are NOT cities they're not even comparable to the Cities that would of been in place. Cities have quests, vendors, bankers etc. Fortresses are like KEEPS they have some stuff but they dont' LEVEL like a city and they dont have Dungeons or PQ's like a city.
They are still PUTTING the other cities in the game but it'll be a MOVING battle front meaning one month we could be fighting for Altdorf the next week we could be fighting for the Dwarven one. (this is what mark jacobs says they are considering doing since they haven't 'scrapped' the cities one can assume this is what they plan to do, it'll keep the endgame dynamic).
Please AOC (Funcom) lied, cheated people just for money, When they keep posting in the NEWS that there game is FINISHED and was NEVER released to early or had lack of content HAHA ..man that says it all.
With War they dont tell us.. oh thats not in yet it will be in at launch. Plus there is SOOOOO much you can do. Your not STUCK at one place to start or do quests. I have not heard one time nor read anything, post yet about any tester thinking this game is not ready. Remember its not WOW nor AOC. From 1 to lvl 20 its fun and then it just keeps getting better. LOL Aoc was like.. after 20 it keep going down hill. Yet with WAR my GOD it keeps getting better. You find .. wait a min.. these guys are not lying.. if they say its there .. its there in game.
You cant keep saying AOC and then WAR. There not the same at all. And in RVR your going to have to WORK for your rewards not just stand there and collect points and go turn them in. Then again I'm not like most people. If I RVR (PVP) ..1st let me say I did PVP in WOW just a few times and didnt really have fun. Yet now with WAR this RVR some of the things you can do and watch its a blast. I do it for fun. Also this is not WOW. It wont look like it , you may get that feeling but it will pass very fast.
All I can say is with WAR listen to what they say about their game because as of right now they have not lied about anything.
I certainly hope that people saying "Half the game is available in OB" are wrong... I'd hope there'd be more at endgame than there'd be 1-20.
I couldn't disagree more with this statement.
For me the enjoyment comes from the journey. I enjoy the adventuring and exploring off the beaten track. I'd like it to take forever to reach level 40 and remember they can (and will) be adding end-game content after the game launches. So why not concentrate almost entirely on 1-40 rather than pandering to the idiots who like to race through content and then complain that there is nothing to do.
I couldn't disagree more.
Have you been reading much on the game? It has been stated over and over that the game will have much much more content in the later tiers, the leveling process will not be a long one; not some magical quest of a lifetime where you "find yourself", just time to get to know your class before the endgame content. Clearly the developers along with many others don't share your sentiment for levels 1 and 2.
I've followed this game for a while and i've seen podcasts etc about lairs and little quests you'll find if you venture from just following the story. Also isn't the TOK meant to have loads of things to unlock in it that aren't necessarily related to the main story/questlines? It was these kinds of extras i was referring to that could slow down the inevitable reaching of the level cap.
Of course i want to participate in the City sieges, they look/sound awesome from todays podcast. My original post was more of how i like to play a MMO rather than an uninformed synopsis of WAR.
LOTRO open beta was capped at LVL 15, and that had the smoothest launch of all time arguably. End-game was a bit lackin (as all MMOs are their first few months) but the game was solid 1-50, but leveling did suck 40-50.
Wow is it so hard for you to read. It s been stated ALONG time ago, OB will not be for anyone with an internet connection.
Are you retarded? What does "along time ago" have to do with the anything I said? My point is they suck for making this decision.
I don't think they suck for this decision. Full anyone that can log on open beta's are haphazard at best and completely unproductive. By allowing a large amount of people that are interested enough in the game to pre order or pay a nominal fee to subscribe to a website to get a key or participate in contests you get people who want to be there not QQers and Whiners. Also anything a player needs to know will be at their finger tips with the release of the NDA. Unlike Failcom WAR is lifting their NDA.
Not to mention this isnt' Vanguard either...that game didn't even NEED open beta for it to be obvious it was not ready for launch. Neither did AoC...the signs were there people were just blinded by the hype.
... even after the NDA is dropped i wont be allowed to talk about it ( i don't think )
Wow there's no end to the redefining of terms to fit their agenda. Now open beta applies only to people who've actually bought the game. Now dropping NDA doesn't really mean you can talk about the game. It's truly laughable. They're going to wake up and realize they can't offer things that aren't really what they mean conventionally.
... even after the NDA is dropped i wont be allowed to talk about it ( i don't think )
Wow there's no end to the redefining of terms to fit their agenda. Now open beta applies only to people who've actually bought the game. Now dropping NDA doesn't really mean you can talk about the game. It's truly laughable. They're going to wake up and realize they can't offer things that aren't really what they mean conventionally.
Im not sure what tr289 is talking about...when the NDA drops we can talk about whatever we want. Maybe he's not familiar how NDA"s work. Hell even right now I can say I'm in beta which isn't normally. I can say that I like the game and I like X System as logn as X system is public knowledge...I just can't give a review until the NDA lifts.
im in beta..I like WAR..and I think the game is going to be fucking awsome
btw Open beta has NEVER meant FREE FULL EVERYONE CAN PLAY TRIAL its STILL a BETA they can impose whatever limits they want and thats how MOST games work. I frankly don't even remember WoW having a FULL OPEN BETA.
Enjoy your 20 levels and thousands of possible achievements
I'm going to enjoy my 20 levels and go play some Open RvR smash some heads and storm a couple of Keeps....Hm and probably some Scenarios and the PQ's as well. I really look forward to the Open RvR which begins at LvL 1.
Oh brother, I knew this was coming. More troll food. However, WAR is not AoC. They could've said "you'll be stuck at max level so we can test end-game content" but then once you actually played the game at launch you wouldn't be able to experience the end-game content for the first time. Kind of a bummer. I'll laugh if everyone complains about this, then halfway into the beta Mythic switches it around and says "Please make max level chars from now until the end of beta. We need to test the high level stuff." That probably won't happen but they're still using beta as focused testing, which means they don't have to focus only on the low levels.
sigh, people never learn. Push backs, scrubbing content, hiding upper level content. And, No matter how many times we see it fanboies totaly willing to admit it.
because i have a feeling that if you go into the 1-10 RvR bracket as lvl one you are going to have a hard time for the first few levels, since you will only have the beginning skills, and starter gear.
... even after the NDA is dropped i wont be allowed to talk about it ( i don't think )
Wow there's no end to the redefining of terms to fit their agenda. Now open beta applies only to people who've actually bought the game. Now dropping NDA doesn't really mean you can talk about the game. It's truly laughable. They're going to wake up and realize they can't offer things that aren't really what they mean conventionally.
I frankly don't even remember WoW having a FULL OPEN BETA.
I hear people saying wow never had a open beta because you had to have a fileplanet subscription. Heh whatever. But now let's apply the same rule evenly. War certainly won't have one because you actually have to buy the game first. Hello.
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We don't know yet till the NDA drops... If it doesn't, then yes... it's exactly what funcom did for all WE know... even tho it might be pre-launch what funcom did and the game still might be finished...
I should hand out tin-foil hats, cookies and "wait till the nda drops" notes to all the doom prophets... ad if they pay me i'll be rich soon... then i can quit my job and play WAR 24/7
As long as WAR lifts NDA on the WHOLE game at the same time - I couldn't care less. What is important to know is that when open beta starts, the game still has some time to relsease and higher lvls can still be tweaked and balanced. So its important that the high lvl content will still have PPL playing it at this stage.
If on the other hand - the closed beta servers will still be under NDA and most of the ppl that were in closed beta are gone to open beta (noone playing high end closed beta servers) it should raise eyebrows and alot of warning bells should be ringing.
What we do know is that there will be no city battles in Open beta. What we need to be 100% sure of is that NDA IS lifted of this content to make sure it even exists and has been fully tested. It was not tested and did not exist in AOC - thus NDA was not lifted.
Hope you get the point.
It's not 'End Game RvR' the whole game is RvR ...
And for the life of god it's still 'BETA' not a demo, not a free trial, it's to test the bloody game more than they could with smaller amounts in the closed BETA.... I'm not in the closed beta but I can guess that the 'End game' (god I hate that phrase) has been tested and tested and bloody well tested more ..
Open beta is more of a stress test, gives the dev's chance to see how the hardware hacks it etc..
Stop comparing WAR to other games and give them a chance .... and feel free the flame away if they do (and a hope they don't) get it wrong
My 2p (Since I cant afford a plan ticket to the USofA)
Both devs and gamers learn from each other. This is how we humans evolve over time. If we all have to start on making fire and discovering the wheel - then we would not be playing computer games - Would we ?
Gamers have learned that MMO devs are launching games in unacceptable state.
Devs have learned that some ppl find it ok for an MMO game to be launched without delivering what is said to be in the box.
In other words - PPl have all right to be sceptic. Its the devs to proof those ppl wrong. Or maybe tell ppl about the true state of the game instead of promising something that they dont actually have in the game.
Your whine & cheese are exit stage left. AoC gave you the tutoria levels to play and effectively covered up player cities, crafting etc.
WAR on the other hand ou get to craft, you get to fight over keeps, you get to fight over land, you get scenarios, you get tome unlocks, you get hidden easter eggs, you get a PREVIEW of every MAJOR system except for the Siege..which wouldn't be possible anyway within a week anyway.
WAR is giving you "near" half of the game (i say near because there's alot more at end game). You don't need to experience all the Tier's for a trial if you dont like the game by the end if Tier 1 then you'll never like the game.
Sorry but when you offer beta for money, when you use beta as a selling point, hiding content cuts and all (but that's another story), it distorts the true meaning of a beta and it becomes something else, much closer to a demo.
Both devs and gamers learn from each other. This is how we humans evolve over time. If we all have to start on making fire and discovering the wheel - then we would not be playing computer games - Would we ?
Gamers have learned that MMO devs are launching games in unacceptable state.
Devs have learned that some ppl find it ok for an MMO game to be launched without delivering what is said to be in the box.
In other words - PPl have all right to be sceptic. Its the devs to proof those ppl wrong. Or maybe tell ppl about the true state of the game instead of promising something that they dont actually have in the game.
innocent until proven guilty ?
Sorry but when you offer beta for money, when you use beta as a selling point, hiding content cuts and all (but that's another story), it distorts the true meaning of a beta and it becomes something else, much closer to a demo.
Good thing they don't acually hide that they cut content.
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Sorry but when you offer beta for money, when you use beta as a selling point, hiding content cuts and all (but that's another story), it distorts the true meaning of a beta and it becomes something else, much closer to a demo.
Good thing they don't acually hide that they cut content.
In a sense all the cities are back in with the new pod cast. Just two major huge cities and the rest are now are called fortresses. I actually think this is a good idea. Having 3 separate major city battles would spread out the player base too much too be able to concentrate on one city.
Uh yea it did...DX10 anyone is that in the game yet? Its a LAUNCH feature that wasn't noted as not included until after launch or rather a day before. How about them Player Keep sieges...yep not in at launch they purposely had the ability to rank your player city high enough to go after a keep disabled so you couldnt' siege and of course we see why. How about PvP Levels? Those are basically not just delayed but cut.
AoC was NOT ready for launch and testers said so in their up roars....you've got a WAR beta tester several sitting here telling you that the WAR devs aren't lying to you. I understand the skeptism to whether or not its actually good because thats a personal opinion but they aren't HIDING any of the systems by only giving you up through Tier 2.
All the major systems are available you just can't City Siege which is not an acction that'd be available within a WEEK anyway.
Both devs and gamers learn from each other. This is how we humans evolve over time. If we all have to start on making fire and discovering the wheel - then we would not be playing computer games - Would we ?
Gamers have learned that MMO devs are launching games in unacceptable state.
Devs have learned that some ppl find it ok for an MMO game to be launched without delivering what is said to be in the box.
In other words - PPl have all right to be sceptic. Its the devs to proof those ppl wrong. Or maybe tell ppl about the true state of the game instead of promising something that they dont actually have in the game.
innocent until proven guilty ?
Thats a rule made for ppl. It does not "scale" well with money. Just ask the prince from Nigeria that sent you email last night.
No they are NOT in a sense back in the game. When they removed the cities they never removed Tier 4 for the affected realms. They only made the Fortress's even BIGGER than they were before. THey're basically giant Keeps. They are NOT cities they're not even comparable to the Cities that would of been in place. Cities have quests, vendors, bankers etc. Fortresses are like KEEPS they have some stuff but they dont' LEVEL like a city and they dont have Dungeons or PQ's like a city.
They are still PUTTING the other cities in the game but it'll be a MOVING battle front meaning one month we could be fighting for Altdorf the next week we could be fighting for the Dwarven one. (this is what mark jacobs says they are considering doing since they haven't 'scrapped' the cities one can assume this is what they plan to do, it'll keep the endgame dynamic).
Please AOC (Funcom) lied, cheated people just for money, When they keep posting in the NEWS that there game is FINISHED and was NEVER released to early or had lack of content HAHA ..man that says it all.
With War they dont tell us.. oh thats not in yet it will be in at launch. Plus there is SOOOOO much you can do. Your not STUCK at one place to start or do quests. I have not heard one time nor read anything, post yet about any tester thinking this game is not ready. Remember its not WOW nor AOC. From 1 to lvl 20 its fun and then it just keeps getting better. LOL Aoc was like.. after 20 it keep going down hill. Yet with WAR my GOD it keeps getting better. You find .. wait a min.. these guys are not lying.. if they say its there .. its there in game.
You cant keep saying AOC and then WAR. There not the same at all. And in RVR your going to have to WORK for your rewards not just stand there and collect points and go turn them in. Then again I'm not like most people. If I RVR (PVP) ..1st let me say I did PVP in WOW just a few times and didnt really have fun. Yet now with WAR this RVR some of the things you can do and watch its a blast. I do it for fun. Also this is not WOW. It wont look like it , you may get that feeling but it will pass very fast.
All I can say is with WAR listen to what they say about their game because as of right now they have not lied about anything.
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Exactly. You have to preorder to be in the so called "open" beta. Dirty little games.
Wow is it so hard for you to read. It s been stated ALONG time ago, OB will not be for anyone with an internet connection.
Are you retarded? What does "along time ago" have to do with the anything I said? My point is they suck for making this decision.
I couldn't disagree more with this statement.
For me the enjoyment comes from the journey. I enjoy the adventuring and exploring off the beaten track. I'd like it to take forever to reach level 40 and remember they can (and will) be adding end-game content after the game launches. So why not concentrate almost entirely on 1-40 rather than pandering to the idiots who like to race through content and then complain that there is nothing to do.
I couldn't disagree more.
Have you been reading much on the game? It has been stated over and over that the game will have much much more content in the later tiers, the leveling process will not be a long one; not some magical quest of a lifetime where you "find yourself", just time to get to know your class before the endgame content. Clearly the developers along with many others don't share your sentiment for levels 1 and 2.
I've followed this game for a while and i've seen podcasts etc about lairs and little quests you'll find if you venture from just following the story. Also isn't the TOK meant to have loads of things to unlock in it that aren't necessarily related to the main story/questlines? It was these kinds of extras i was referring to that could slow down the inevitable reaching of the level cap.
Of course i want to participate in the City sieges, they look/sound awesome from todays podcast. My original post was more of how i like to play a MMO rather than an uninformed synopsis of WAR.
LOTRO open beta was capped at LVL 15, and that had the smoothest launch of all time arguably. End-game was a bit lackin (as all MMOs are their first few months) but the game was solid 1-50, but leveling did suck 40-50.
So whatever, lvl cap on OB is the standard.
Are you retarded? What does "along time ago" have to do with the anything I said? My point is they suck for making this decision.
I don't think they suck for this decision. Full anyone that can log on open beta's are haphazard at best and completely unproductive. By allowing a large amount of people that are interested enough in the game to pre order or pay a nominal fee to subscribe to a website to get a key or participate in contests you get people who want to be there not QQers and Whiners. Also anything a player needs to know will be at their finger tips with the release of the NDA. Unlike Failcom WAR is lifting their NDA.
Not to mention this isnt' Vanguard either...that game didn't even NEED open beta for it to be obvious it was not ready for launch. Neither did AoC...the signs were there people were just blinded by the hype.
Wow there's no end to the redefining of terms to fit their agenda. Now open beta applies only to people who've actually bought the game. Now dropping NDA doesn't really mean you can talk about the game. It's truly laughable. They're going to wake up and realize they can't offer things that aren't really what they mean conventionally.
Wow there's no end to the redefining of terms to fit their agenda. Now open beta applies only to people who've actually bought the game. Now dropping NDA doesn't really mean you can talk about the game. It's truly laughable. They're going to wake up and realize they can't offer things that aren't really what they mean conventionally.
Im not sure what tr289 is talking about...when the NDA drops we can talk about whatever we want. Maybe he's not familiar how NDA"s work. Hell even right now I can say I'm in beta which isn't normally. I can say that I like the game and I like X System as logn as X system is public knowledge...I just can't give a review until the NDA lifts.
im in beta..I like WAR..and I think the game is going to be fucking awsome
btw Open beta has NEVER meant FREE FULL EVERYONE CAN PLAY TRIAL its STILL a BETA they can impose whatever limits they want and thats how MOST games work. I frankly don't even remember WoW having a FULL OPEN BETA.
Enjoy your 20 levels and thousands of possible achievements
I'm going to enjoy my 20 levels and go play some Open RvR smash some heads and storm a couple of Keeps....Hm and probably some Scenarios and the PQ's as well. I really look forward to the Open RvR which begins at LvL 1.
sigh, people never learn. Push backs, scrubbing content, hiding upper level content. And, No matter how many times we see it fanboies totaly willing to admit it.
REMEMBER THIS:
They said it was POSSIBLE to level in RvR
Not that it was easy.
because i have a feeling that if you go into the 1-10 RvR bracket as lvl one you are going to have a hard time for the first few levels, since you will only have the beginning skills, and starter gear.
Wow there's no end to the redefining of terms to fit their agenda. Now open beta applies only to people who've actually bought the game. Now dropping NDA doesn't really mean you can talk about the game. It's truly laughable. They're going to wake up and realize they can't offer things that aren't really what they mean conventionally.
I frankly don't even remember WoW having a FULL OPEN BETA.
I hear people saying wow never had a open beta because you had to have a fileplanet subscription. Heh whatever. But now let's apply the same rule evenly. War certainly won't have one because you actually have to buy the game first. Hello.