What is this deception you speak of? The only deception that I employ is what I use to manipulate others to my ends. As far as my family... My son is bitter and hateful, like me....and doesn't piss me off on a constant basis. Same with my wife-to-be (although she has a rather nasty temper, whereas I am the cold, calm hateful type). Maybe "all" was a bit too encompassing....but until someone PROVES that they are worthy of my kindness, they have nothing but my distain, and disgust.
By deception he means the "I am trying to be a sociopath" thingy you are so fond of. And don't get me started on the "manipulate others to my ends". What the heck everyone and his aunt have became Machiavelli overnight?:P
You are a funny old man though. Proving to you that they are worthy of your kindness?:P At least stick with the "i am a sociopath and so are the people I associate with". Really when your family is dysfunctional or at least works on the basis of a common hatred, kindness is a bit on the imaginary side for you.
Stick with a story man. It's really cool you want to be a sheep(albeit a black one), but don't try so hard you know? And by the way to quote a comic "Kindness is never earned, only freely given....if you have any of course";)
Look dude, I am who I am. I don't "try" to be anything other than what I am.
You are trying to be someone other than who you are "You hate all humans and want them all dead" which was a lie.
Take a hard look at the herd. All those humans masking who they really are so that they can "fit in" and be "normal".
Disgusting.
And people who go out of their way to not fit in and be abnormal, like you, should be equally disgusting in your eyes, but humans, like you, are prone to grant themselves mercy aren't they?
And just because I hate humanity in general, why do you think I can not share love with my family? Am I limited by some imaginary boundary to one set of emotions?
That's you fault for trying to deceive us.
See, you don't understand me, and I don't understand you.
How can we know you when you hide who you are and lie about yourself to us?
And NO ONE understands Wickersham
It's ok, I get that a lot.
The WHOLE POINT of my philosphy, of being true to myself, and being myself regardless of the opinions of others, is to NOT wear a "mask".
Your 1st statement on this thread was not very true, let alone, true to yourself. As far as, being yourself regardless of the opinions of others - you seem to define yourself by their opinions of you. They give you your mask.
Completely opposite of that disgusting mass of human swill who tries so hard to be part of the crowd, and to have as many friends as possible. THEY are the ones lying to themselves, every moment of their lives.
There is no difference between them and you in my eyes and I don't find either of you disgusting. Strange that I gave the OP advice like: "Ask yourself what you want in friends and make friends based on that" and you rejected it and yet I think you should understand that one more than most people.
Wickersham
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
What is this deception you speak of? The only deception that I employ is what I use to manipulate others to my ends. As far as my family... My son is bitter and hateful, like me....and doesn't piss me off on a constant basis. Same with my wife-to-be (although she has a rather nasty temper, whereas I am the cold, calm hateful type). Maybe "all" was a bit too encompassing....but until someone PROVES that they are worthy of my kindness, they have nothing but my distain, and disgust.
By deception he means the "I am trying to be a sociopath" thingy you are so fond of. And don't get me started on the "manipulate others to my ends". What the heck everyone and his aunt have became Machiavelli overnight?:P
You are a funny old man though. Proving to you that they are worthy of your kindness?:P At least stick with the "i am a sociopath and so are the people I associate with". Really when your family is dysfunctional or at least works on the basis of a common hatred, kindness is a bit on the imaginary side for you.
Stick with a story man. It's really cool you want to be a sheep(albeit a black one), but don't try so hard you know? And by the way to quote a comic "Kindness is never earned, only freely given....if you have any of course";)
Look dude, I am who I am. I don't "try" to be anything other than what I am.
Take a hard look at the herd. All those humans masking who they really are so that they can "fit in" and be "normal".
Disgusting.
And just because I hate humanity in general, why do you think I can not share love with my family? Am I limited by some imaginary boundary to one set of emotions?
See, you don't understand me, and I don't understand you.
And NO ONE understands Wickersham
The WHOLE POINT of my philosphy, of being true to myself, and being myself regardless of the opinions of others, is to NOT wear a "mask".
Completely opposite of that disgusting mass of human swill who tries so hard to be part of the crowd, and to have as many friends as possible. THEY are the ones lying to themselves, every moment of their lives.
On the first paragraph I just explained what I understood from whickersham, since you asked a question:)
Sorry if it seems I don't understand you, I do understand your train of thought though, since you are not the first I have met that had such a set of beliefs and ideas.
Anyway to your question yes it is possible to hate humanity in general yet loving your family, it's part of the human mind to be able to hold widely opposing beliefs. I am sorry but I don't remember the medical word for it in english, but I can look it up for you if you want. The problem is that at some point such things became blurred and really take their toll. Other than that I never said that you can't love your family, but I made a hypothesis based only on what you said, nothing more and nothing less. My bad there since I should have asked more questions, rather than getting a good exercise by jumping to conclusions.
The philosophy you say is right in an ideal state. But it's utopistic at best. For example you say you manipulated to get your way. Ok most people do that to a greater or a lesser degree. Isn't that a mask you are wearing? Would you insult a cop even if you felt like it? no that's another mask. Would you cut in front of someone obviously stronger than you? All people wear masks with no exeptions, as situations arise. The problem rises when they forget to take them off or just make themselves believe they never wore them.
Individualism at best is very hard to maintain but so is being part of the crowd. Both have their merits. And both sides hate each other since they are diametrically opposed by nature.
PS I would suggest you read "1984" of Orwell if you haven't already:)
A friend is not him who provides support during your failures.A friend is the one that cheers you during your successes.
What is this deception you speak of? The only deception that I employ is what I use to manipulate others to my ends. As far as my family... My son is bitter and hateful, like me....and doesn't piss me off on a constant basis. Same with my wife-to-be (although she has a rather nasty temper, whereas I am the cold, calm hateful type). Maybe "all" was a bit too encompassing....but until someone PROVES that they are worthy of my kindness, they have nothing but my distain, and disgust.
By deception he means the "I am trying to be a sociopath" thingy you are so fond of. And don't get me started on the "manipulate others to my ends". What the heck everyone and his aunt have became Machiavelli overnight?:P
You are a funny old man though. Proving to you that they are worthy of your kindness?:P At least stick with the "i am a sociopath and so are the people I associate with". Really when your family is dysfunctional or at least works on the basis of a common hatred, kindness is a bit on the imaginary side for you.
Stick with a story man. It's really cool you want to be a sheep(albeit a black one), but don't try so hard you know? And by the way to quote a comic "Kindness is never earned, only freely given....if you have any of course";)
Look dude, I am who I am. I don't "try" to be anything other than what I am.
You are trying to be someone other than who you are "You hate all humans and want them all dead" which was a lie.
Take a hard look at the herd. All those humans masking who they really are so that they can "fit in" and be "normal".
Disgusting.
And people who go out of their way to not fit in and be abnormal, like you, should be equally disgusting in your eyes, but humans, like you, are prone to grant themselves mercy aren't they?
And just because I hate humanity in general, why do you think I can not share love with my family? Am I limited by some imaginary boundary to one set of emotions?
That's you fault for trying to deceive us.
See, you don't understand me, and I don't understand you.
How can we know you when you hide who you are and lie about yourself to us?
And NO ONE understands Wickersham
It's ok, I get that a lot.
The WHOLE POINT of my philosphy, of being true to myself, and being myself regardless of the opinions of others, is to NOT wear a "mask".
Your 1st statement on this thread was not very true, let alone, true to yourself. As far as, being yourself regardless of the opinions of others - you seem to define yourself by their opinions of you. They give you your mask.
Completely opposite of that disgusting mass of human swill who tries so hard to be part of the crowd, and to have as many friends as possible. THEY are the ones lying to themselves, every moment of their lives.
There is no difference between them and you in my eyes and I don't find either of you disgusting. Strange that I gave the OP advice like: "Ask yourself what you want in friends and make friends based on that" and you rejected it and yet I think you should understand that one more than most people.
Wickersham
A: stop putting words in my mouth.
B: thank you for being a living example of why I hate humans.
Does black define it's existance by the simple contrast of white, or is it a state of it's own, and it's contrast simply an aspect of it's existance?
You seem to think that all would be white, unless effort were made to BE black. (or vice-versa) I disagree, and put forth that black and white are naturally occurring phenomena.
Stating that I am one does not mean that I am the other in disguise. However, your insistance to the contrary is quite annoying, and further gives proof that all things are not either black or white. There is a division, and you can deny it all you like, but as a result it is YOU who lies to yourself.
I remember back in 1999, folks kept asking me if I was stockpiling food. I always answered, "No, I'm stockpiling ammo and making a list of people who are stockpiling food"
There are cranks out there that can't be reasoned with. That are not willing to relate to their fellow man.
That hate because hatred is what they prefer.
That's why I have a gun. That's why society has laws and police and armies.
Not having the basic social skills to appreciate other humans limits you. It's just a question of attitude. You can hate humankind for not killing you. For their tolerance of your hatred. I feel very sorry for your son. You are his role model. You have not only chosen a poison path for your own life, but for his.
There are cranks out there that can't be reasoned with. That are not willing to relate to their fellow man. There is a difference between blind, unreasoning hate, and justified hate based on a history of experiences. That hate because hatred is what they prefer.
That's why I have a gun. That's why society has laws and police and armies.
Not having the basic social skills to appreciate other humans limits you. I appreciate them as tools to use. Cattle, if you will. It's just a question of attitude. You can hate humankind for not killing you. They are welcome to try. For their tolerance of your hatred. They don't. They just pretend to. It's great fun to push them over the edge though, and show them that they are really just like me. I feel very sorry for your son. You are his role model. You have not only chosen a poison path for your own life, but for his. And yet we flourish. We become stronger, mentally, spiritually AND physically. We take pride in ourselves, and our accomplishments. We are kind to animals, plants, and the earth beneath our feet. We give love to that which is neglected or abused by humanity.
You'll never see us throwing trash on the ground, poisoning ourselves with drugs, killing an animal without dire need of food or warmth. We hate humanity at large for very good reasons, and I would argue that it is THEY who are the true "poison" in this world.
I remember back in 1999, folks kept asking me if I was stockpiling food. I always answered, "No, I'm stockpiling ammo and making a list of people who are stockpiling food"
I didn't read the endless walls of text that these debates have come from only a few which seemed logical.
I don't get some of you people, of course mankind is a icky beast. We always have been.
Now stop.
Think about it, "always".
"Always,Always,Always"
You, me, my dad, your dad, my grandma, your grandma, etc.
Mankind has never changed, only our society has and even then it's usually just a shell image of the Roman empire.
We are all given choices in life and these choices define what is a positive outcome and a negative outcome.
We all have the same ability to say "Yes,No" (unless of course restrained by either your mind/body -mental retardation for instance-)
We are all the same in this regard, given the wrong moments any man/woman/child is capable of some foul acts.
The flip side is given the right moment any man/woman/child is capable of good acts.
Who cares about war toll statistics, I mean really. It's not like those wars even dented our population.
Toss in plagues and various natural disasters too while your at it and it'll still prove nothing.
We DIE, We are BORN, We DIE, We are BORN.
It's a cycle, and it's been going on with other animals longer than this.
Even longer than GASP the "Internet(TM)".
Dear Op,
I always chuckle when I read some seriously immature thoughts on man kind. That we're just one negative force and t hat is is. It shows a person in a certain light. Which is obviously a young person with a issue with the world. Do some traveling kid, go see this "horrible" world and those "horrible " people.
To me you are the perfect example of ignorance from lack of exposure. Absolute thought on these matters will drive you into either the annoyingly cheery guy, or that whiney kid attitude that you seem to put off...oh destroy this, that,this,that, someone took my ball, kill the world! Let it burn!"
Your choice is as negative as the thing you are appalled by. Ironic.
Stop the war footage and police drama's and whatever you experience the world through the T.V/Media.
Go out and see for yourself. Yes you will find wretches , and yes you will find good people.
It's your choice.
There is such a diverse existance out there and it is only your fault if you want to accept this negative closed minded thought. Either way I don't really care, you just amuse me.
What is this deception you speak of? The only deception that I employ is what I use to manipulate others to my ends. As far as my family... My son is bitter and hateful, like me....and doesn't piss me off on a constant basis. Same with my wife-to-be (although she has a rather nasty temper, whereas I am the cold, calm hateful type). Maybe "all" was a bit too encompassing....but until someone PROVES that they are worthy of my kindness, they have nothing but my distain, and disgust.
By deception he means the "I am trying to be a sociopath" thingy you are so fond of. And don't get me started on the "manipulate others to my ends". What the heck everyone and his aunt have became Machiavelli overnight?:P
You are a funny old man though. Proving to you that they are worthy of your kindness?:P At least stick with the "i am a sociopath and so are the people I associate with". Really when your family is dysfunctional or at least works on the basis of a common hatred, kindness is a bit on the imaginary side for you.
Stick with a story man. It's really cool you want to be a sheep(albeit a black one), but don't try so hard you know? And by the way to quote a comic "Kindness is never earned, only freely given....if you have any of course";)
Look dude, I am who I am. I don't "try" to be anything other than what I am.
You are trying to be someone other than who you are "You hate all humans and want them all dead" which was a lie.
Take a hard look at the herd. All those humans masking who they really are so that they can "fit in" and be "normal".
Disgusting.
And people who go out of their way to not fit in and be abnormal, like you, should be equally disgusting in your eyes, but humans, like you, are prone to grant themselves mercy aren't they?
And just because I hate humanity in general, why do you think I can not share love with my family? Am I limited by some imaginary boundary to one set of emotions?
That's you fault for trying to deceive us.
See, you don't understand me, and I don't understand you.
How can we know you when you hide who you are and lie about yourself to us?
And NO ONE understands Wickersham
It's ok, I get that a lot.
The WHOLE POINT of my philosphy, of being true to myself, and being myself regardless of the opinions of others, is to NOT wear a "mask".
Your 1st statement on this thread was not very true, let alone, true to yourself. As far as, being yourself regardless of the opinions of others - you seem to define yourself by their opinions of you. They give you your mask.
Completely opposite of that disgusting mass of human swill who tries so hard to be part of the crowd, and to have as many friends as possible. THEY are the ones lying to themselves, every moment of their lives.
There is no difference between them and you in my eyes and I don't find either of you disgusting. Strange that I gave the OP advice like: "Ask yourself what you want in friends and make friends based on that" and you rejected it and yet I think you should understand that one more than most people.
Wickersham
A: stop putting words in my mouth.
B: thank you for being a living example of why I hate humans.
Does black define it's existance by the simple contrast of white, or is it a state of it's own, and it's contrast simply an aspect of it's existance?
You seem to think that all would be white, unless effort were made to BE black. (or vice-versa) I disagree, and put forth that black and white are naturally occurring phenomena.
Stating that I am one does not mean that I am the other in disguise. However, your insistance to the contrary is quite annoying, and further gives proof that all things are not either black or white. There is a division, and you can deny it all you like, but as a result it is YOU who lies to yourself.
A) What words did I put into your mouth?
Those were your words please accept the fact that you typed them. Scroll up if you don't believe me.
I am a person who uses logic and reason to determine truth. You came here and suggested things that I knew to be false. If not believing you when you say something that is untrue is the credential for you hating me then fine - hate me and want me dead. I see thru you and I'm sorry that it makes you uncomfortable.
You lied, you took on a persona that was not true to yourself and so obviously it was not true to me, then you go on and on saying repeatedly that you are not hiding something - you must be hiding something because this entire thread has been about you trying to deceive us.
Truth is black and white; in a case of truth there is only true and untrue. There are not various degrees of truth.
You hate all humans - false
You want all humans to die - false
You hate some humans - true (I won't argue on this point)
You want some humans to die - true (again no arguement)
Do you know what? Most humans agree with you about hate and death - they hate somethings and they want some people dead - welcome to the herd you hate so much! They're destroyers just like you. You and them are the same - you just don't see it.
Mooooooo! Now you are a cow grazing with the other cows the only difference between you is that some of them appreciate the farmer whereas you don't because you don't know any better.
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
There are cranks out there that can't be reasoned with. That are not willing to relate to their fellow man. There is a difference between blind, unreasoning hate, and justified hate based on a history of experiences.
No. There isn't. Hate is just hate.
Everyone is able to justify theirs.
Try love. The blind unreasoning love of a father or the justified love of a husband based on a history of experience.
There are cranks out there that can't be reasoned with. That are not willing to relate to their fellow man. There is a difference between blind, unreasoning hate, and justified hate based on a history of experiences. That hate because hatred is what they prefer.
That's why I have a gun. That's why society has laws and police and armies.
Not having the basic social skills to appreciate other humans limits you. I appreciate them as tools to use. Cattle, if you will. It's just a question of attitude. You can hate humankind for not killing you. They are welcome to try. For their tolerance of your hatred. They don't. They just pretend to. It's great fun to push them over the edge though, and show them that they are really just like me. I feel very sorry for your son. You are his role model. You have not only chosen a poison path for your own life, but for his. And yet we flourish. We become stronger, mentally, spiritually AND physically. We take pride in ourselves, and our accomplishments. We are kind to animals, plants, and the earth beneath our feet. We give love to that which is neglected or abused by humanity.
You'll never see us throwing trash on the ground, poisoning ourselves with drugs, killing an animal without dire need of food or warmth. We hate humanity at large for very good reasons, and I would argue that it is THEY who are the true "poison" in this world.
I think the greatest irony in this thread is that you and your family have simply become what you hate, your selfishness is part of the problem. Yes you may take care of everything BUT your fellow human, but does that make you any better? No it doesn't, its the people that you have screwed throughout your life that may turn to the things you detest, the people you hated and despised that turn to the things you detest. you may have been involved directly or indirectly. Hatred breeds hatred and with it comes a whole pandoras box (of the things you detest).
The irony in your stunted persona is beautiful, but its disgusting to think that your very own seed has become like you, and you may not be ashamed of who you are, but I would be ashamed of that.
Wicker, you don't know me. You've never met me. You can't possibly tell me that I am something that I am not, or that I am not who I say.
BigD, um...what? I am not some pathethic tanned cow with blonde hair driving an SUV, while listening to it's I-pod and texting on it's I-phone, wasting oxygen and space and contributing nothing to the world except for it's ability to consume MORE AND MORE with it's "MINE MINE" spoiled brat attitude.
Feel those canines in your mouth? Note the forward orientation of your eyes?
We are PREDATORS. Some of us retain those instincts, and are flat-out nauseated at the herd-animal mentality of the rest of the populace. They scream and cry when they see violence or blood, and can't understand how someone could possibly hate or kill.
THEY are the ones who lie to themselves, and pretend to be something they are not.
They obey the laws, they buy the latest fashions, they watch the popular television shows, and listen to the popular music.
Disgusting.
And the weaker ones are encouraged to live, given everything they need to survive by the rest so that they can breed and further contaminate the gene pool, making you all even WEAKER.
And then, (ha!) you dare to look at each other and say...
"what's wrong with this world?"
Originally I had just intended to agree with the OP, not hijack this post. I've said my bit, and I could give a rat's ass what you think of me. Go shopping for a new cell-phone or something.
But know this...when this economy collapses, and all Hell breaks loose, and it becomes survival of the fittest, it is people like me who will be having one Hell of a good time.
I remember back in 1999, folks kept asking me if I was stockpiling food. I always answered, "No, I'm stockpiling ammo and making a list of people who are stockpiling food"
You can plant all the flowers you want and say all the stupid words about hope and happyness. We are a pathetic bunch of apes with a bit of intelligence and a minimum of empathy that turns into hate or indiference beyond our small tribe. This is how we evolved and survived and nothing can change this.
I evolved through the spirit of mutual co-operation.
My tribe learnt to embrace the other tribes and learn from them and profit from our interactions.
We haven't forgotten how to do the predator thing or how to dominate, fight and kill. But we have never been limited to it.
I kill every day. I married outside my tribe. Lassie movies make me cry.
I have no reason to hate anyone. By and large I am in a strong enough position not to let people treat me in a manner that would provoke that kind of reaction.
Every morning, when I wake up and look out my window into my sea of flowers, I think to myself.....this is paradise. And I have no reason not to be happy. And when people walk past my garden or come to visit and they see all the flowers it makes them happy too. Some of them anyway.
I'm not seeking to make a big difference in the world. Just a little one.
Wicker, you don't know me. You've never met me. You can't possibly tell me that I am something that I am not, or that I am not who I say. BigD, um...what? I am not some pathethic tanned cow with blonde hair driving an SUV, while listening to it's I-pod and texting on it's I-phone, wasting oxygen and space and contributing nothing to the world except for it's ability to consume MORE AND MORE with it's "MINE MINE" spoiled brat attitude. Feel those canines in your mouth? Note the forward orientation of your eyes? We are PREDATORS. Some of us retain those instincts, and are flat-out nauseated at the herd-animal mentality of the rest of the populace. They scream and cry when they see violence or blood, and can't understand how someone could possibly hate or kill. THEY are the ones who lie to themselves, and pretend to be something they are not. They obey the laws, they buy the latest fashions, they watch the popular television shows, and listen to the popular music. Disgusting. And the weaker ones are encouraged to live, given everything they need to survive by the rest so that they can breed and further contaminate the gene pool, making you all even WEAKER. And then, (ha!) you dare to look at each other and say... "what's wrong with this world?"
Originally I had just intended to agree with the OP, not hijack this post. I've said my bit, and I could give a rat's ass what you think of me. Go shopping for a new cell-phone or something. But know this...when this economy collapses, and all Hell breaks loose, and it becomes survival of the fittest, it is people like me who will be having one Hell of a good time.
The mass is always stronger than any single individual. Predator or not, individually you are as weak as the rest of them. The people you call weak are only weak in your eyes because you see them individually,and not in the groups they are part of. Even if you kill one of the herd there will always be another to take its place, and they will just bring down each individual by sheer numbers. That's why you see consumerism for example being so prevalent. And that's why I told you to check a specific book on the matter. A group is stronger than an individual, a large group even stronger.
Even if for some reason the whole economy falls apart, and society is unable to support itself, don't be so arrogant as to think you will be having a "hell of a good time". That natural instinct of survival awakes to all in such cases, and humans ,all humans, adapt fast. Again the herd (in this cases groups/gangs) brings down any single individual or smaller group. It's just the natural order of things. Even wolves hunt in packs after all. Humans are no exeption, they are part of the natural order of things wether they choose to embrace it or not.
Lastly you are contradicting yourself. Just because someone isn't "individual" , it doesn't mean that they are "herd". There are more colors than black and white, and most people choose the middle ground or better yet what is better situationally.
A friend is not him who provides support during your failures.A friend is the one that cheers you during your successes.
That's not how I evolved. I evolved through the spirit of mutual co-operation. My tribe learnt to embrace the other tribes and learn from them and profit from our interactions. We haven't forgotten how to do the predator thing or how to dominate, fight and kill. But we have never been limited to it. I kill every day. I married outside my tribe. Lassie movies make me cry. I have no reason to hate anyone. By and large I am in a strong enough position not to let people treat me in a manner that would provoke that kind of reaction.
And this is why you are weak. Adversity motivates, and stimulates growth. The blowing of the wind strengthens the plants that must withstand it.
Evolution is based on necessity.
"Natural selection is the process by which genetic mutations that enhance reproduction become, and remain, more common in successive generations of a population. It has often been called a "self-evident" mechanism because it necessarily follows from three simple facts:
* Heritable variation exists within populations of organisms.
* Organisms produce more offspring than can survive.
* These offspring vary in their ability to survive and reproduce.
These conditions produce competition between organisms for survival and reproduction. Consequently, organisms with traits that give them an advantage over their competitors pass these advantageous traits on, while traits that do not confer an advantage are not passed on to the next generation.
The central concept of natural selection is the evolutionary fitness of an organism. This measures the organism's genetic contribution to the next generation. "
However, with the current model of human society, even those unworthy of survival are allowed to continue their existance. This leads to a weakeing of the entire species....
...therefore you havn't "evolved" at all, but have instead poisoned your race.
You don't hate because you've never had enough of a reason to, or allowed yourself to. Therefore, you have had no reason to become strong, and have no motivation to become great.
And you have become a problem.
I remember back in 1999, folks kept asking me if I was stockpiling food. I always answered, "No, I'm stockpiling ammo and making a list of people who are stockpiling food"
Wicker, you don't know me. You've never met me. You can't possibly tell me that I am something that I am not, or that I am not who I say. BigD, um...what? I am not some pathethic tanned cow with blonde hair driving an SUV, while listening to it's I-pod and texting on it's I-phone, wasting oxygen and space and contributing nothing to the world except for it's ability to consume MORE AND MORE with it's "MINE MINE" spoiled brat attitude. Feel those canines in your mouth? Note the forward orientation of your eyes? We are PREDATORS. Some of us retain those instincts, and are flat-out nauseated at the herd-animal mentality of the rest of the populace. They scream and cry when they see violence or blood, and can't understand how someone could possibly hate or kill. THEY are the ones who lie to themselves, and pretend to be something they are not. They obey the laws, they buy the latest fashions, they watch the popular television shows, and listen to the popular music. Disgusting. And the weaker ones are encouraged to live, given everything they need to survive by the rest so that they can breed and further contaminate the gene pool, making you all even WEAKER. And then, (ha!) you dare to look at each other and say... "what's wrong with this world?"
Originally I had just intended to agree with the OP, not hijack this post. I've said my bit, and I could give a rat's ass what you think of me. Go shopping for a new cell-phone or something. But know this...when this economy collapses, and all Hell breaks loose, and it becomes survival of the fittest, it is people like me who will be having one Hell of a good time.
The mass is always stronger than any single individual. Predator or not, individually you are as weak as the rest of them. The people you call weak are only weak in your eyes because you see them individually,and not in the groups they are part of. Even if you kill one of the herd there will always be another to take its place, and they will just bring down each individual by sheer numbers. That's why you see consumerism for example being so prevalent. And that's why I told you to check a specific book on the matter. A group is stronger than an individual, a large group even stronger.
Even if for some reason the whole economy falls apart, and society is unable to support itself, don't be so arrogant as to think you will be having a "hell of a good time". That natural instinct of survival awakes to all in such cases, and humans ,all humans, adapt fast. Again the herd (in this cases groups/gangs) brings down any single individual or smaller group. It's just the natural order of things. Even wolves hunt in packs after all. Humans are no exeption, they are part of the natural order of things wether they choose to embrace it or not.
Lastly you are contradicting yourself. Just because someone isn't "individual" , it doesn't mean that they are "herd". There are more colors than black and white, and most people choose the middle ground or better yet what is better situationally.
Really. And this is how a guy with a fucking BOX CUTTER was able to hijack a plane full of hman sheep?
Mass or no mass, they are afraid to step up and fight. They don't know how, and are afraid to even fight for their own survival.
Their instinct is to scream for someone else to help them...but no one ever does, because they are all afraid.
When the shit hits the fan, they'll hide somewhere...go to ground like rabbits and only the very bravest will come out to look for food.
However, even they will be no match for those of us who have trained our entire lives to be strong.
Toss an arm-chair quarterback into the ring with a trained fighter, and watch what happens.
Oh....and as far as choosing the "middle ground"....moderation results in mediocrity.
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I remember back in 1999, folks kept asking me if I was stockpiling food. I always answered, "No, I'm stockpiling ammo and making a list of people who are stockpiling food"
Wicker, you don't know me. You've never met me. You can't possibly tell me that I am something that I am not, or that I am not who I say. BigD, um...what? I am not some pathethic tanned cow with blonde hair driving an SUV, while listening to it's I-pod and texting on it's I-phone, wasting oxygen and space and contributing nothing to the world except for it's ability to consume MORE AND MORE with it's "MINE MINE" spoiled brat attitude. Feel those canines in your mouth? Note the forward orientation of your eyes? We are PREDATORS. Some of us retain those instincts, and are flat-out nauseated at the herd-animal mentality of the rest of the populace. They scream and cry when they see violence or blood, and can't understand how someone could possibly hate or kill. THEY are the ones who lie to themselves, and pretend to be something they are not. They obey the laws, they buy the latest fashions, they watch the popular television shows, and listen to the popular music. Disgusting. And the weaker ones are encouraged to live, given everything they need to survive by the rest so that they can breed and further contaminate the gene pool, making you all even WEAKER. And then, (ha!) you dare to look at each other and say... "what's wrong with this world?"
Originally I had just intended to agree with the OP, not hijack this post. I've said my bit, and I could give a rat's ass what you think of me. Go shopping for a new cell-phone or something. But know this...when this economy collapses, and all Hell breaks loose, and it becomes survival of the fittest, it is people like me who will be having one Hell of a good time.
The mass is always stronger than any single individual. Predator or not, individually you are as weak as the rest of them. The people you call weak are only weak in your eyes because you see them individually,and not in the groups they are part of. Even if you kill one of the herd there will always be another to take its place, and they will just bring down each individual by sheer numbers. That's why you see consumerism for example being so prevalent. And that's why I told you to check a specific book on the matter. A group is stronger than an individual, a large group even stronger.
Even if for some reason the whole economy falls apart, and society is unable to support itself, don't be so arrogant as to think you will be having a "hell of a good time". That natural instinct of survival awakes to all in such cases, and humans ,all humans, adapt fast. Again the herd (in this cases groups/gangs) brings down any single individual or smaller group. It's just the natural order of things. Even wolves hunt in packs after all. Humans are no exeption, they are part of the natural order of things wether they choose to embrace it or not.
Lastly you are contradicting yourself. Just because someone isn't "individual" , it doesn't mean that they are "herd". There are more colors than black and white, and most people choose the middle ground or better yet what is better situationally.
Really. And this is how a guy with a fucking BOX CUTTER was able to hijack a plane full of hman sheep?
Mass or no mass, they are afraid to step up and fight. They don't know how, and are afraid to even fight for their own survival.
Their instinct is to scream for someone else to help them...but no one ever does, because they are all afraid.
When the shit hits the fan, they'll hide somewhere...go to ground like rabbits and only the very bravest will come out to look for food.
However, even they will be no match for those of us who have trained our entire lives to be strong.
Toss an arm-chair quarterback into the ring with a trained fighter, and watch what happens.
Oh....and as far as choosing the "middle ground"....moderation results in mediocrity.
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Which case you are referring to? If we start by analyzing individual scenarios, we won't get anywhere.
Fear is as a strong emotion as hate you know. Try go alone and push/punch someone weak that is surrounded by 30 buddies of his own. Now tell me what happens. Sure you may argue that you may sneak or use tactics or whatever, but unless you trained all your life for such situations the chances are in their favor.
When the shit hits the fan yes they will hide and need will protect them. And their numbers will guarantee safety even if half of them perish in the process. Unless all your life you were in the special ops training for the apocalypse, you will be marginally better individually. Their strength is numbers, the other people strength is their survival training. That's why it is situational.
As for your example with the trained fighter...In that example you put the weakness of one vs the strength of another. In that scenario yes the fighter wins. What happens when you put 20 of those against a trained fighter? In a straight fight numbers win. In survival scenarios, numbers again have an inherent advantage, because you need years of constant training+plus age vs 60 people that band together.
I will presume you have been in the army. Moderation is part of discipline and self control. If you can't moderate yourself, it's easier to lose it when random situations arise.
The problem with the world is not wether they are part of a herd or individuals, neither if they hate, love or anything in between. They can't control themselves, they can't discipline themselves and even if they don't fall prey to others they fall prey to their own selves, in which case they became weak.
A friend is not him who provides support during your failures.A friend is the one that cheers you during your successes.
What happens when someone opens fire at a mall? They all go running away screaming. That's one against many. Granted, one person trying to beat down an individual surrounded by his "herd-mates" will be at a disadvantage, but only an idiot would do that, and idiots don't deserve to live.
Instead, the predator uses a bit of intelligence, and employs a weapon.
Something that most people don't even bother owning anymore.
See, logically, a group of 30 people could take down one man with a gun. But some of them would die or get injured in the process....they realise this, so NO ONE does anything for fear of being the one who gets hurt. They all hide, and whimper, and hope that they are not the cow that is chosen for slaughter.
No, I was never in the army...I would never subjugate myself to another's authority like that.
I remember back in 1999, folks kept asking me if I was stockpiling food. I always answered, "No, I'm stockpiling ammo and making a list of people who are stockpiling food"
That's not how I evolved. I evolved through the spirit of mutual co-operation. My tribe learnt to embrace the other tribes and learn from them and profit from our interactions. We haven't forgotten how to do the predator thing or how to dominate, fight and kill. But we have never been limited to it. I kill every day. I married outside my tribe. Lassie movies make me cry. I have no reason to hate anyone. By and large I am in a strong enough position not to let people treat me in a manner that would provoke that kind of reaction.
And this is why you are weak. Adversity motivates, and stimulates growth. The blowing of the wind strengthens the plants that must withstand it.
Evolution is based on necessity.
"Natural selection is the process by which genetic mutations that enhance reproduction become, and remain, more common in successive generations of a population. It has often been called a "self-evident" mechanism because it necessarily follows from three simple facts:
* Heritable variation exists within populations of organisms.
* Organisms produce more offspring than can survive.
* These offspring vary in their ability to survive and reproduce.
These conditions produce competition between organisms for survival and reproduction. Consequently, organisms with traits that give them an advantage over their competitors pass these advantageous traits on, while traits that do not confer an advantage are not passed on to the next generation.
The central concept of natural selection is the evolutionary fitness of an organism. This measures the organism's genetic contribution to the next generation. "
However, with the current model of human society, even those unworthy of survival are allowed to continue their existance. This leads to a weakeing of the entire species....
...therefore you havn't "evolved" at all, but have instead poisoned your race.
You don't hate because you've never had enough of a reason to, or allowed yourself to. Therefore, you have had no reason to become strong, and have no motivation to become great.
And you have become a problem.
The little dog barks alot. The big dog doesn't need to.
you're also not considering all the angles. What happens when someone opens fire at a mall?
Only the herd visits the mall.
And if adversity stimulates growth, how come all those Cambodians died. Why are they not supermen ruling the earth.
Adversity kills. A stronger person doesn't die as fast. The strongest people of all are able to avoid adversity completely or so well able to cope with it that it offers no fear. No hatred.
That's not how I evolved. I evolved through the spirit of mutual co-operation. My tribe learnt to embrace the other tribes and learn from them and profit from our interactions. We haven't forgotten how to do the predator thing or how to dominate, fight and kill. But we have never been limited to it. I kill every day. I married outside my tribe. Lassie movies make me cry. I have no reason to hate anyone. By and large I am in a strong enough position not to let people treat me in a manner that would provoke that kind of reaction.
And this is why you are weak. Adversity motivates, and stimulates growth. The blowing of the wind strengthens the plants that must withstand it.
Evolution is based on necessity.
"Natural selection is the process by which genetic mutations that enhance reproduction become, and remain, more common in successive generations of a population. It has often been called a "self-evident" mechanism because it necessarily follows from three simple facts:
* Heritable variation exists within populations of organisms.
* Organisms produce more offspring than can survive.
* These offspring vary in their ability to survive and reproduce.
These conditions produce competition between organisms for survival and reproduction. Consequently, organisms with traits that give them an advantage over their competitors pass these advantageous traits on, while traits that do not confer an advantage are not passed on to the next generation.
The central concept of natural selection is the evolutionary fitness of an organism. This measures the organism's genetic contribution to the next generation. "
However, with the current model of human society, even those unworthy of survival are allowed to continue their existance. This leads to a weakeing of the entire species....
...therefore you havn't "evolved" at all, but have instead poisoned your race.
You don't hate because you've never had enough of a reason to, or allowed yourself to. Therefore, you have had no reason to become strong, and have no motivation to become great.
And you have become a problem.
The little dog barks alot. The big dog doesn't need to.
This is a forum, where we discuss things. That's the point.
I remember back in 1999, folks kept asking me if I was stockpiling food. I always answered, "No, I'm stockpiling ammo and making a list of people who are stockpiling food"
you're also not considering all the angles. What happens when someone opens fire at a mall?
Only the herd visits the mall.
Unless they go there to hunt
I remember back in 1999, folks kept asking me if I was stockpiling food. I always answered, "No, I'm stockpiling ammo and making a list of people who are stockpiling food"
The little dog barks alot. The big dog doesn't need to.
This is a forum, where we discuss things. That's the point.
What's to discuss. The elephant doesn't fear the wolf. He doesn't have to.
Enjoy yourself hunting down the mall along with all the other wannabe hunters imagining they are James Bond instead of just plain old ordinary shoppers like everyone else there.
Lol. I love how people always feel obligated to "help" or to try to paint everything rainbow colors.
Nope you see I am neither trying to help nor paint everything in rainbow colors. You see the first implies that I care or that I have an idea of what festers in your mind and the second implies I lack experience or at least common sense.
Take it more as an advice and leave it at that. After all if you like the persona of a jaded, old fool, more power to you. And if you catch a unicorn, tell me what it tastes like:P
hehehe....and I love how you assumed I was talking about you.
Self-centered much?
I do have a question for some of you though.
Why is it when someone dies, like...all the way across the world, or someone you've never even met....why is it that you feel sad?
Or rather..HOW is it?
I don't understand, honestly. I feel nothing for the death or pain of others, except maybe amusement.
I've tried to put myself in your shoes, and try to understand, just to see what it might be like, but I can't.
People talk about death like it's some huge tragedy, and get all freaked out when someone dies. I think to myself "one down", and go about my buisiness.
I just don't understand herd mentality, I guess.
I can tell your just trying to sound all cool and haughty on the internet, you aren't impressing anyone by acting like a tough guy. You're trying hard to sound like a sociopath, except that a true sociopath probably wouldn't find amusement in death but rather a complete indifference, amusement would be more in line with a psycopath. But I know that you are neither.
I also find it hard to believe that you are middle-aged, but perhaps you never moved on from the mentality of an angst-filled teenager. Sorry to hear you never matured properly.
That and a sociopath wouldn't even attempt to explain himself or justify his or her lack of emotional connection.
you're also not considering all the angles. What happens when someone opens fire at a mall? They all go running away screaming. That's one against many. Granted, one person trying to beat down an individual surrounded by his "herd-mates" will be at a disadvantage, but only an idiot would do that, and idiots don't deserve to live. Instead, the predator uses a bit of intelligence, and employs a weapon. Something that most people don't even bother owning anymore. See, logically, a group of 30 people could take down one man with a gun. But some of them would die or get injured in the process....they realise this, so NO ONE does anything for fear of being the one who gets hurt. They all hide, and whimper, and hope that they are not the cow that is chosen for slaughter.
No, I was never in the army...I would never subjugate myself to another's authority like that.
That's why I said before all things are situational. In the mall situation the intelligent thing to do when someone ambushes you like this, it's to seek cover. Actually in all situations where you don't have the first strike the intelligent thing is to seek cover. How many of these individuals that open fire in malls, are alive?
And the mall is considered a "safe" area, so people are relaxed that's why it's a different situation.
The predator is not intelligent because it uses a weapon. It's intelligent because it analyzes a situation and adapts. Survival means to stay alive, first and foremost. A predator that can get food without a fight is the smart one. The one that seeks fights to become "stronger" is usually the food for the others.
You forget a thing in your logic. In the example above with the mall the people know that if they hide and raise the alarm, people that deal with such "individuals" come and take care of things. With the absence though of the above authorities people always tend to gather and protect themselves. Such things happen in the absence of official goverment. An example is in China when women in villages far away from the protection of the army had to train themselves in martial arts to avoid rape. You'd be surprised how fast people adapt when the shit hits the fan. Granted there are casualties that could be avoided if they did that thing earlier but we can't have it all.
I mentioned the army because the "predator" training is taught in many of the units.
A friend is not him who provides support during your failures.A friend is the one that cheers you during your successes.
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By deception he means the "I am trying to be a sociopath" thingy you are so fond of. And don't get me started on the "manipulate others to my ends". What the heck everyone and his aunt have became Machiavelli overnight?:P
You are a funny old man though. Proving to you that they are worthy of your kindness?:P At least stick with the "i am a sociopath and so are the people I associate with". Really when your family is dysfunctional or at least works on the basis of a common hatred, kindness is a bit on the imaginary side for you.
Stick with a story man. It's really cool you want to be a sheep(albeit a black one), but don't try so hard you know? And by the way to quote a comic "Kindness is never earned, only freely given....if you have any of course";)
Look dude, I am who I am. I don't "try" to be anything other than what I am.
You are trying to be someone other than who you are "You hate all humans and want them all dead" which was a lie.
Take a hard look at the herd. All those humans masking who they really are so that they can "fit in" and be "normal".
Disgusting.
And people who go out of their way to not fit in and be abnormal, like you, should be equally disgusting in your eyes, but humans, like you, are prone to grant themselves mercy aren't they?
And just because I hate humanity in general, why do you think I can not share love with my family? Am I limited by some imaginary boundary to one set of emotions?
That's you fault for trying to deceive us.
See, you don't understand me, and I don't understand you.
How can we know you when you hide who you are and lie about yourself to us?
And NO ONE understands Wickersham
It's ok, I get that a lot.
The WHOLE POINT of my philosphy, of being true to myself, and being myself regardless of the opinions of others, is to NOT wear a "mask".
Your 1st statement on this thread was not very true, let alone, true to yourself. As far as, being yourself regardless of the opinions of others - you seem to define yourself by their opinions of you. They give you your mask.
Completely opposite of that disgusting mass of human swill who tries so hard to be part of the crowd, and to have as many friends as possible. THEY are the ones lying to themselves, every moment of their lives.
There is no difference between them and you in my eyes and I don't find either of you disgusting. Strange that I gave the OP advice like: "Ask yourself what you want in friends and make friends based on that" and you rejected it and yet I think you should understand that one more than most people.
Wickersham
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
By deception he means the "I am trying to be a sociopath" thingy you are so fond of. And don't get me started on the "manipulate others to my ends". What the heck everyone and his aunt have became Machiavelli overnight?:P
You are a funny old man though. Proving to you that they are worthy of your kindness?:P At least stick with the "i am a sociopath and so are the people I associate with". Really when your family is dysfunctional or at least works on the basis of a common hatred, kindness is a bit on the imaginary side for you.
Stick with a story man. It's really cool you want to be a sheep(albeit a black one), but don't try so hard you know? And by the way to quote a comic "Kindness is never earned, only freely given....if you have any of course";)
Look dude, I am who I am. I don't "try" to be anything other than what I am.
Take a hard look at the herd. All those humans masking who they really are so that they can "fit in" and be "normal".
Disgusting.
And just because I hate humanity in general, why do you think I can not share love with my family? Am I limited by some imaginary boundary to one set of emotions?
See, you don't understand me, and I don't understand you.
And NO ONE understands Wickersham
The WHOLE POINT of my philosphy, of being true to myself, and being myself regardless of the opinions of others, is to NOT wear a "mask".
Completely opposite of that disgusting mass of human swill who tries so hard to be part of the crowd, and to have as many friends as possible. THEY are the ones lying to themselves, every moment of their lives.
On the first paragraph I just explained what I understood from whickersham, since you asked a question:)
Sorry if it seems I don't understand you, I do understand your train of thought though, since you are not the first I have met that had such a set of beliefs and ideas.
Anyway to your question yes it is possible to hate humanity in general yet loving your family, it's part of the human mind to be able to hold widely opposing beliefs. I am sorry but I don't remember the medical word for it in english, but I can look it up for you if you want. The problem is that at some point such things became blurred and really take their toll. Other than that I never said that you can't love your family, but I made a hypothesis based only on what you said, nothing more and nothing less. My bad there since I should have asked more questions, rather than getting a good exercise by jumping to conclusions.
The philosophy you say is right in an ideal state. But it's utopistic at best. For example you say you manipulated to get your way. Ok most people do that to a greater or a lesser degree. Isn't that a mask you are wearing? Would you insult a cop even if you felt like it? no that's another mask. Would you cut in front of someone obviously stronger than you? All people wear masks with no exeptions, as situations arise. The problem rises when they forget to take them off or just make themselves believe they never wore them.
Individualism at best is very hard to maintain but so is being part of the crowd. Both have their merits. And both sides hate each other since they are diametrically opposed by nature.
PS I would suggest you read "1984" of Orwell if you haven't already:)
A friend is not him who provides support during your failures.A friend is the one that cheers you during your successes.
By deception he means the "I am trying to be a sociopath" thingy you are so fond of. And don't get me started on the "manipulate others to my ends". What the heck everyone and his aunt have became Machiavelli overnight?:P
You are a funny old man though. Proving to you that they are worthy of your kindness?:P At least stick with the "i am a sociopath and so are the people I associate with". Really when your family is dysfunctional or at least works on the basis of a common hatred, kindness is a bit on the imaginary side for you.
Stick with a story man. It's really cool you want to be a sheep(albeit a black one), but don't try so hard you know? And by the way to quote a comic "Kindness is never earned, only freely given....if you have any of course";)
Look dude, I am who I am. I don't "try" to be anything other than what I am.
You are trying to be someone other than who you are "You hate all humans and want them all dead" which was a lie.
Take a hard look at the herd. All those humans masking who they really are so that they can "fit in" and be "normal".
Disgusting.
And people who go out of their way to not fit in and be abnormal, like you, should be equally disgusting in your eyes, but humans, like you, are prone to grant themselves mercy aren't they?
And just because I hate humanity in general, why do you think I can not share love with my family? Am I limited by some imaginary boundary to one set of emotions?
That's you fault for trying to deceive us.
See, you don't understand me, and I don't understand you.
How can we know you when you hide who you are and lie about yourself to us?
And NO ONE understands Wickersham
It's ok, I get that a lot.
The WHOLE POINT of my philosphy, of being true to myself, and being myself regardless of the opinions of others, is to NOT wear a "mask".
Your 1st statement on this thread was not very true, let alone, true to yourself. As far as, being yourself regardless of the opinions of others - you seem to define yourself by their opinions of you. They give you your mask.
Completely opposite of that disgusting mass of human swill who tries so hard to be part of the crowd, and to have as many friends as possible. THEY are the ones lying to themselves, every moment of their lives.
There is no difference between them and you in my eyes and I don't find either of you disgusting. Strange that I gave the OP advice like: "Ask yourself what you want in friends and make friends based on that" and you rejected it and yet I think you should understand that one more than most people.
Wickersham
A: stop putting words in my mouth.
B: thank you for being a living example of why I hate humans.
Does black define it's existance by the simple contrast of white, or is it a state of it's own, and it's contrast simply an aspect of it's existance?
You seem to think that all would be white, unless effort were made to BE black. (or vice-versa) I disagree, and put forth that black and white are naturally occurring phenomena.
Stating that I am one does not mean that I am the other in disguise. However, your insistance to the contrary is quite annoying, and further gives proof that all things are not either black or white. There is a division, and you can deny it all you like, but as a result it is YOU who lies to yourself.
I remember back in 1999, folks kept asking me if I was stockpiling food. I always answered, "No, I'm stockpiling ammo and making a list of people who are stockpiling food"
There are cranks out there that can't be reasoned with. That are not willing to relate to their fellow man.
That hate because hatred is what they prefer.
That's why I have a gun. That's why society has laws and police and armies.
Not having the basic social skills to appreciate other humans limits you. It's just a question of attitude. You can hate humankind for not killing you. For their tolerance of your hatred. I feel very sorry for your son. You are his role model. You have not only chosen a poison path for your own life, but for his.
I remember back in 1999, folks kept asking me if I was stockpiling food. I always answered, "No, I'm stockpiling ammo and making a list of people who are stockpiling food"
*****RUNS SCREAMING FROM THIS THREAD***
DON'T GO IN THERE!!! DON'T GO IN THERE!!!!
I didn't read the endless walls of text that these debates have come from only a few which seemed logical.
I don't get some of you people, of course mankind is a icky beast. We always have been.
Now stop.
Think about it, "always".
"Always,Always,Always"
You, me, my dad, your dad, my grandma, your grandma, etc.
Mankind has never changed, only our society has and even then it's usually just a shell image of the Roman empire.
We are all given choices in life and these choices define what is a positive outcome and a negative outcome.
We all have the same ability to say "Yes,No" (unless of course restrained by either your mind/body -mental retardation for instance-)
We are all the same in this regard, given the wrong moments any man/woman/child is capable of some foul acts.
The flip side is given the right moment any man/woman/child is capable of good acts.
Who cares about war toll statistics, I mean really. It's not like those wars even dented our population.
Toss in plagues and various natural disasters too while your at it and it'll still prove nothing.
We DIE, We are BORN, We DIE, We are BORN.
It's a cycle, and it's been going on with other animals longer than this.
Even longer than GASP the "Internet(TM)".
Dear Op,
I always chuckle when I read some seriously immature thoughts on man kind. That we're just one negative force and t hat is is. It shows a person in a certain light. Which is obviously a young person with a issue with the world. Do some traveling kid, go see this "horrible" world and those "horrible " people.
To me you are the perfect example of ignorance from lack of exposure. Absolute thought on these matters will drive you into either the annoyingly cheery guy, or that whiney kid attitude that you seem to put off...oh destroy this, that,this,that, someone took my ball, kill the world! Let it burn!"
Your choice is as negative as the thing you are appalled by. Ironic.
Stop the war footage and police drama's and whatever you experience the world through the T.V/Media.
Go out and see for yourself. Yes you will find wretches , and yes you will find good people.
It's your choice.
There is such a diverse existance out there and it is only your fault if you want to accept this negative closed minded thought. Either way I don't really care, you just amuse me.
By deception he means the "I am trying to be a sociopath" thingy you are so fond of. And don't get me started on the "manipulate others to my ends". What the heck everyone and his aunt have became Machiavelli overnight?:P
You are a funny old man though. Proving to you that they are worthy of your kindness?:P At least stick with the "i am a sociopath and so are the people I associate with". Really when your family is dysfunctional or at least works on the basis of a common hatred, kindness is a bit on the imaginary side for you.
Stick with a story man. It's really cool you want to be a sheep(albeit a black one), but don't try so hard you know? And by the way to quote a comic "Kindness is never earned, only freely given....if you have any of course";)
Look dude, I am who I am. I don't "try" to be anything other than what I am.
You are trying to be someone other than who you are "You hate all humans and want them all dead" which was a lie.
Take a hard look at the herd. All those humans masking who they really are so that they can "fit in" and be "normal".
Disgusting.
And people who go out of their way to not fit in and be abnormal, like you, should be equally disgusting in your eyes, but humans, like you, are prone to grant themselves mercy aren't they?
And just because I hate humanity in general, why do you think I can not share love with my family? Am I limited by some imaginary boundary to one set of emotions?
That's you fault for trying to deceive us.
See, you don't understand me, and I don't understand you.
How can we know you when you hide who you are and lie about yourself to us?
And NO ONE understands Wickersham
It's ok, I get that a lot.
The WHOLE POINT of my philosphy, of being true to myself, and being myself regardless of the opinions of others, is to NOT wear a "mask".
Your 1st statement on this thread was not very true, let alone, true to yourself. As far as, being yourself regardless of the opinions of others - you seem to define yourself by their opinions of you. They give you your mask.
Completely opposite of that disgusting mass of human swill who tries so hard to be part of the crowd, and to have as many friends as possible. THEY are the ones lying to themselves, every moment of their lives.
There is no difference between them and you in my eyes and I don't find either of you disgusting. Strange that I gave the OP advice like: "Ask yourself what you want in friends and make friends based on that" and you rejected it and yet I think you should understand that one more than most people.
Wickersham
A: stop putting words in my mouth.
B: thank you for being a living example of why I hate humans.
Does black define it's existance by the simple contrast of white, or is it a state of it's own, and it's contrast simply an aspect of it's existance?
You seem to think that all would be white, unless effort were made to BE black. (or vice-versa) I disagree, and put forth that black and white are naturally occurring phenomena.
Stating that I am one does not mean that I am the other in disguise. However, your insistance to the contrary is quite annoying, and further gives proof that all things are not either black or white. There is a division, and you can deny it all you like, but as a result it is YOU who lies to yourself.
A) What words did I put into your mouth?
Those were your words please accept the fact that you typed them. Scroll up if you don't believe me.
I am a person who uses logic and reason to determine truth. You came here and suggested things that I knew to be false. If not believing you when you say something that is untrue is the credential for you hating me then fine - hate me and want me dead. I see thru you and I'm sorry that it makes you uncomfortable.
You lied, you took on a persona that was not true to yourself and so obviously it was not true to me, then you go on and on saying repeatedly that you are not hiding something - you must be hiding something because this entire thread has been about you trying to deceive us.
Truth is black and white; in a case of truth there is only true and untrue. There are not various degrees of truth.
You hate all humans - false
You want all humans to die - false
You hate some humans - true (I won't argue on this point)
You want some humans to die - true (again no arguement)
Do you know what? Most humans agree with you about hate and death - they hate somethings and they want some people dead - welcome to the herd you hate so much! They're destroyers just like you. You and them are the same - you just don't see it.
Mooooooo! Now you are a cow grazing with the other cows the only difference between you is that some of them appreciate the farmer whereas you don't because you don't know any better.
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
No. There isn't. Hate is just hate.
Everyone is able to justify theirs.
Try love. The blind unreasoning love of a father or the justified love of a husband based on a history of experience.
It will change nothing (except you).
I think the greatest irony in this thread is that you and your family have simply become what you hate, your selfishness is part of the problem. Yes you may take care of everything BUT your fellow human, but does that make you any better? No it doesn't, its the people that you have screwed throughout your life that may turn to the things you detest, the people you hated and despised that turn to the things you detest. you may have been involved directly or indirectly. Hatred breeds hatred and with it comes a whole pandoras box (of the things you detest).
The irony in your stunted persona is beautiful, but its disgusting to think that your very own seed has become like you, and you may not be ashamed of who you are, but I would be ashamed of that.
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Wicker, you don't know me. You've never met me. You can't possibly tell me that I am something that I am not, or that I am not who I say.
BigD, um...what? I am not some pathethic tanned cow with blonde hair driving an SUV, while listening to it's I-pod and texting on it's I-phone, wasting oxygen and space and contributing nothing to the world except for it's ability to consume MORE AND MORE with it's "MINE MINE" spoiled brat attitude.
Feel those canines in your mouth? Note the forward orientation of your eyes?
We are PREDATORS. Some of us retain those instincts, and are flat-out nauseated at the herd-animal mentality of the rest of the populace. They scream and cry when they see violence or blood, and can't understand how someone could possibly hate or kill.
THEY are the ones who lie to themselves, and pretend to be something they are not.
They obey the laws, they buy the latest fashions, they watch the popular television shows, and listen to the popular music.
Disgusting.
And the weaker ones are encouraged to live, given everything they need to survive by the rest so that they can breed and further contaminate the gene pool, making you all even WEAKER.
And then, (ha!) you dare to look at each other and say...
"what's wrong with this world?"
Originally I had just intended to agree with the OP, not hijack this post. I've said my bit, and I could give a rat's ass what you think of me. Go shopping for a new cell-phone or something.
But know this...when this economy collapses, and all Hell breaks loose, and it becomes survival of the fittest, it is people like me who will be having one Hell of a good time.
I remember back in 1999, folks kept asking me if I was stockpiling food. I always answered, "No, I'm stockpiling ammo and making a list of people who are stockpiling food"
You can plant all the flowers you want and say all the stupid words about hope and happyness. We are a pathetic bunch of apes with a bit of intelligence and a minimum of empathy that turns into hate or indiference beyond our small tribe. This is how we evolved and survived and nothing can change this.
That's not how I evolved.
I evolved through the spirit of mutual co-operation.
My tribe learnt to embrace the other tribes and learn from them and profit from our interactions.
We haven't forgotten how to do the predator thing or how to dominate, fight and kill. But we have never been limited to it.
I kill every day. I married outside my tribe. Lassie movies make me cry.
I have no reason to hate anyone. By and large I am in a strong enough position not to let people treat me in a manner that would provoke that kind of reaction.
Every morning, when I wake up and look out my window into my sea of flowers, I think to myself.....this is paradise. And I have no reason not to be happy. And when people walk past my garden or come to visit and they see all the flowers it makes them happy too. Some of them anyway.
I'm not seeking to make a big difference in the world. Just a little one.
The mass is always stronger than any single individual. Predator or not, individually you are as weak as the rest of them. The people you call weak are only weak in your eyes because you see them individually,and not in the groups they are part of. Even if you kill one of the herd there will always be another to take its place, and they will just bring down each individual by sheer numbers. That's why you see consumerism for example being so prevalent. And that's why I told you to check a specific book on the matter. A group is stronger than an individual, a large group even stronger.
Even if for some reason the whole economy falls apart, and society is unable to support itself, don't be so arrogant as to think you will be having a "hell of a good time". That natural instinct of survival awakes to all in such cases, and humans ,all humans, adapt fast. Again the herd (in this cases groups/gangs) brings down any single individual or smaller group. It's just the natural order of things. Even wolves hunt in packs after all. Humans are no exeption, they are part of the natural order of things wether they choose to embrace it or not.
Lastly you are contradicting yourself. Just because someone isn't "individual" , it doesn't mean that they are "herd". There are more colors than black and white, and most people choose the middle ground or better yet what is better situationally.
A friend is not him who provides support during your failures.A friend is the one that cheers you during your successes.
And this is why you are weak. Adversity motivates, and stimulates growth. The blowing of the wind strengthens the plants that must withstand it.
Evolution is based on necessity.
"Natural selection is the process by which genetic mutations that enhance reproduction become, and remain, more common in successive generations of a population. It has often been called a "self-evident" mechanism because it necessarily follows from three simple facts:
* Heritable variation exists within populations of organisms.
* Organisms produce more offspring than can survive.
* These offspring vary in their ability to survive and reproduce.
These conditions produce competition between organisms for survival and reproduction. Consequently, organisms with traits that give them an advantage over their competitors pass these advantageous traits on, while traits that do not confer an advantage are not passed on to the next generation.
The central concept of natural selection is the evolutionary fitness of an organism. This measures the organism's genetic contribution to the next generation. "
However, with the current model of human society, even those unworthy of survival are allowed to continue their existance. This leads to a weakeing of the entire species....
...therefore you havn't "evolved" at all, but have instead poisoned your race.
You don't hate because you've never had enough of a reason to, or allowed yourself to. Therefore, you have had no reason to become strong, and have no motivation to become great.
And you have become a problem.
I remember back in 1999, folks kept asking me if I was stockpiling food. I always answered, "No, I'm stockpiling ammo and making a list of people who are stockpiling food"
The mass is always stronger than any single individual. Predator or not, individually you are as weak as the rest of them. The people you call weak are only weak in your eyes because you see them individually,and not in the groups they are part of. Even if you kill one of the herd there will always be another to take its place, and they will just bring down each individual by sheer numbers. That's why you see consumerism for example being so prevalent. And that's why I told you to check a specific book on the matter. A group is stronger than an individual, a large group even stronger.
Even if for some reason the whole economy falls apart, and society is unable to support itself, don't be so arrogant as to think you will be having a "hell of a good time". That natural instinct of survival awakes to all in such cases, and humans ,all humans, adapt fast. Again the herd (in this cases groups/gangs) brings down any single individual or smaller group. It's just the natural order of things. Even wolves hunt in packs after all. Humans are no exeption, they are part of the natural order of things wether they choose to embrace it or not.
Lastly you are contradicting yourself. Just because someone isn't "individual" , it doesn't mean that they are "herd". There are more colors than black and white, and most people choose the middle ground or better yet what is better situationally.
Really. And this is how a guy with a fucking BOX CUTTER was able to hijack a plane full of hman sheep?
Mass or no mass, they are afraid to step up and fight. They don't know how, and are afraid to even fight for their own survival.
Their instinct is to scream for someone else to help them...but no one ever does, because they are all afraid.
When the shit hits the fan, they'll hide somewhere...go to ground like rabbits and only the very bravest will come out to look for food.
However, even they will be no match for those of us who have trained our entire lives to be strong.
Toss an arm-chair quarterback into the ring with a trained fighter, and watch what happens.
Oh....and as far as choosing the "middle ground"....moderation results in mediocrity.
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I remember back in 1999, folks kept asking me if I was stockpiling food. I always answered, "No, I'm stockpiling ammo and making a list of people who are stockpiling food"
The mass is always stronger than any single individual. Predator or not, individually you are as weak as the rest of them. The people you call weak are only weak in your eyes because you see them individually,and not in the groups they are part of. Even if you kill one of the herd there will always be another to take its place, and they will just bring down each individual by sheer numbers. That's why you see consumerism for example being so prevalent. And that's why I told you to check a specific book on the matter. A group is stronger than an individual, a large group even stronger.
Even if for some reason the whole economy falls apart, and society is unable to support itself, don't be so arrogant as to think you will be having a "hell of a good time". That natural instinct of survival awakes to all in such cases, and humans ,all humans, adapt fast. Again the herd (in this cases groups/gangs) brings down any single individual or smaller group. It's just the natural order of things. Even wolves hunt in packs after all. Humans are no exeption, they are part of the natural order of things wether they choose to embrace it or not.
Lastly you are contradicting yourself. Just because someone isn't "individual" , it doesn't mean that they are "herd". There are more colors than black and white, and most people choose the middle ground or better yet what is better situationally.
Really. And this is how a guy with a fucking BOX CUTTER was able to hijack a plane full of hman sheep?
Mass or no mass, they are afraid to step up and fight. They don't know how, and are afraid to even fight for their own survival.
Their instinct is to scream for someone else to help them...but no one ever does, because they are all afraid.
When the shit hits the fan, they'll hide somewhere...go to ground like rabbits and only the very bravest will come out to look for food.
However, even they will be no match for those of us who have trained our entire lives to be strong.
Toss an arm-chair quarterback into the ring with a trained fighter, and watch what happens.
Oh....and as far as choosing the "middle ground"....moderation results in mediocrity.
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Which case you are referring to? If we start by analyzing individual scenarios, we won't get anywhere.
Fear is as a strong emotion as hate you know. Try go alone and push/punch someone weak that is surrounded by 30 buddies of his own. Now tell me what happens. Sure you may argue that you may sneak or use tactics or whatever, but unless you trained all your life for such situations the chances are in their favor.
When the shit hits the fan yes they will hide and need will protect them. And their numbers will guarantee safety even if half of them perish in the process. Unless all your life you were in the special ops training for the apocalypse, you will be marginally better individually. Their strength is numbers, the other people strength is their survival training. That's why it is situational.
As for your example with the trained fighter...In that example you put the weakness of one vs the strength of another. In that scenario yes the fighter wins. What happens when you put 20 of those against a trained fighter? In a straight fight numbers win. In survival scenarios, numbers again have an inherent advantage, because you need years of constant training+plus age vs 60 people that band together.
I will presume you have been in the army. Moderation is part of discipline and self control. If you can't moderate yourself, it's easier to lose it when random situations arise.
The problem with the world is not wether they are part of a herd or individuals, neither if they hate, love or anything in between. They can't control themselves, they can't discipline themselves and even if they don't fall prey to others they fall prey to their own selves, in which case they became weak.
A friend is not him who provides support during your failures.A friend is the one that cheers you during your successes.
you're also not considering all the angles.
What happens when someone opens fire at a mall? They all go running away screaming. That's one against many. Granted, one person trying to beat down an individual surrounded by his "herd-mates" will be at a disadvantage, but only an idiot would do that, and idiots don't deserve to live.
Instead, the predator uses a bit of intelligence, and employs a weapon.
Something that most people don't even bother owning anymore.
See, logically, a group of 30 people could take down one man with a gun. But some of them would die or get injured in the process....they realise this, so NO ONE does anything for fear of being the one who gets hurt. They all hide, and whimper, and hope that they are not the cow that is chosen for slaughter.
No, I was never in the army...I would never subjugate myself to another's authority like that.
I remember back in 1999, folks kept asking me if I was stockpiling food. I always answered, "No, I'm stockpiling ammo and making a list of people who are stockpiling food"
And this is why you are weak. Adversity motivates, and stimulates growth. The blowing of the wind strengthens the plants that must withstand it.
Evolution is based on necessity.
"Natural selection is the process by which genetic mutations that enhance reproduction become, and remain, more common in successive generations of a population. It has often been called a "self-evident" mechanism because it necessarily follows from three simple facts:
* Heritable variation exists within populations of organisms.
* Organisms produce more offspring than can survive.
* These offspring vary in their ability to survive and reproduce.
These conditions produce competition between organisms for survival and reproduction. Consequently, organisms with traits that give them an advantage over their competitors pass these advantageous traits on, while traits that do not confer an advantage are not passed on to the next generation.
The central concept of natural selection is the evolutionary fitness of an organism. This measures the organism's genetic contribution to the next generation. "
However, with the current model of human society, even those unworthy of survival are allowed to continue their existance. This leads to a weakeing of the entire species....
...therefore you havn't "evolved" at all, but have instead poisoned your race.
You don't hate because you've never had enough of a reason to, or allowed yourself to. Therefore, you have had no reason to become strong, and have no motivation to become great.
And you have become a problem.
The little dog barks alot. The big dog doesn't need to.
Only the herd visits the mall.
And if adversity stimulates growth, how come all those Cambodians died. Why are they not supermen ruling the earth.
Adversity kills. A stronger person doesn't die as fast. The strongest people of all are able to avoid adversity completely or so well able to cope with it that it offers no fear. No hatred.
Why fight out of hatred rather than love?
And this is why you are weak. Adversity motivates, and stimulates growth. The blowing of the wind strengthens the plants that must withstand it.
Evolution is based on necessity.
"Natural selection is the process by which genetic mutations that enhance reproduction become, and remain, more common in successive generations of a population. It has often been called a "self-evident" mechanism because it necessarily follows from three simple facts:
* Heritable variation exists within populations of organisms.
* Organisms produce more offspring than can survive.
* These offspring vary in their ability to survive and reproduce.
These conditions produce competition between organisms for survival and reproduction. Consequently, organisms with traits that give them an advantage over their competitors pass these advantageous traits on, while traits that do not confer an advantage are not passed on to the next generation.
The central concept of natural selection is the evolutionary fitness of an organism. This measures the organism's genetic contribution to the next generation. "
However, with the current model of human society, even those unworthy of survival are allowed to continue their existance. This leads to a weakeing of the entire species....
...therefore you havn't "evolved" at all, but have instead poisoned your race.
You don't hate because you've never had enough of a reason to, or allowed yourself to. Therefore, you have had no reason to become strong, and have no motivation to become great.
And you have become a problem.
The little dog barks alot. The big dog doesn't need to.
This is a forum, where we discuss things. That's the point.
I remember back in 1999, folks kept asking me if I was stockpiling food. I always answered, "No, I'm stockpiling ammo and making a list of people who are stockpiling food"
Only the herd visits the mall.
Unless they go there to hunt
I remember back in 1999, folks kept asking me if I was stockpiling food. I always answered, "No, I'm stockpiling ammo and making a list of people who are stockpiling food"
This is a forum, where we discuss things. That's the point.
What's to discuss. The elephant doesn't fear the wolf. He doesn't have to.
Enjoy yourself hunting down the mall along with all the other wannabe hunters imagining they are James Bond instead of just plain old ordinary shoppers like everyone else there.
Nope you see I am neither trying to help nor paint everything in rainbow colors. You see the first implies that I care or that I have an idea of what festers in your mind and the second implies I lack experience or at least common sense.
Take it more as an advice and leave it at that. After all if you like the persona of a jaded, old fool, more power to you. And if you catch a unicorn, tell me what it tastes like:P
hehehe....and I love how you assumed I was talking about you.
Self-centered much?
I do have a question for some of you though.
Why is it when someone dies, like...all the way across the world, or someone you've never even met....why is it that you feel sad?
Or rather..HOW is it?
I don't understand, honestly. I feel nothing for the death or pain of others, except maybe amusement.
I've tried to put myself in your shoes, and try to understand, just to see what it might be like, but I can't.
People talk about death like it's some huge tragedy, and get all freaked out when someone dies. I think to myself "one down", and go about my buisiness.
I just don't understand herd mentality, I guess.
I can tell your just trying to sound all cool and haughty on the internet, you aren't impressing anyone by acting like a tough guy. You're trying hard to sound like a sociopath, except that a true sociopath probably wouldn't find amusement in death but rather a complete indifference, amusement would be more in line with a psycopath. But I know that you are neither.
I also find it hard to believe that you are middle-aged, but perhaps you never moved on from the mentality of an angst-filled teenager. Sorry to hear you never matured properly.
That and a sociopath wouldn't even attempt to explain himself or justify his or her lack of emotional connection.
That's why I said before all things are situational. In the mall situation the intelligent thing to do when someone ambushes you like this, it's to seek cover. Actually in all situations where you don't have the first strike the intelligent thing is to seek cover. How many of these individuals that open fire in malls, are alive?
And the mall is considered a "safe" area, so people are relaxed that's why it's a different situation.
The predator is not intelligent because it uses a weapon. It's intelligent because it analyzes a situation and adapts. Survival means to stay alive, first and foremost. A predator that can get food without a fight is the smart one. The one that seeks fights to become "stronger" is usually the food for the others.
You forget a thing in your logic. In the example above with the mall the people know that if they hide and raise the alarm, people that deal with such "individuals" come and take care of things. With the absence though of the above authorities people always tend to gather and protect themselves. Such things happen in the absence of official goverment. An example is in China when women in villages far away from the protection of the army had to train themselves in martial arts to avoid rape. You'd be surprised how fast people adapt when the shit hits the fan. Granted there are casualties that could be avoided if they did that thing earlier but we can't have it all.
I mentioned the army because the "predator" training is taught in many of the units.
A friend is not him who provides support during your failures.A friend is the one that cheers you during your successes.