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Darkfall vs warhammer graphics
edited pics should work:
Darkfall:
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/ork_capital?full=1
vs
Warhammer:
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/armiesofWAR/greenskins/BlackOrc05.jpg
this is not a bashing of warhammer, I have no problem with it, im not a graphics whore so warhammers graphics are fine to me... just thought his was interesting
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Links arnt working for me, but i like both styles of graphics although i do think that warhammer's should be a bit more dark and gritty than it is.
So far what i have seen of Darkfall's graphics i am pleased, it looks quite dark here and there, I like it this way. I prefer the world to be relatively dark considering its a world of war.
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i prefer WAR. its just artisticly more pleasing to the eye, imo
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Remember Old School Ultima Online
I like both to be honest (big Warhammer fan here).
Each game has gone for a different graphical philosophy. I wouldn't say that one was better or worse than the other since it's comparing apples and oranges.
I would compare Warhammers graphics with WoW's though (cartoony) and Darkfall's with ... I donno ... EQ2's slightly more realistic graphics perhaps?
It's all a matter of taste tbh.
Graphics being on the lower side for intense PVP just makes sense. Id prefer skill makes the determination rather than framerate. I mean slideshow PVP sucks!
Some people are like slinkies, they dont really have a purpose, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
Warhammer's graphical style (and UI lol) just invokes too many thoughts of wow for me. I like darkfall's style, it's unique.
I wholeheartedly concur, good sir.
I call WAR WoWHammer online... i mean yes, the graphics are slightly better than WoW.. and they have a couple more features, but it seemed like I started playing WoW again when i played WAR.
And when youve beaten the living crap out of WoW and waited for new content for months just to have your endgame gear vendored, and keep doing the same thing you always did when it does come out, you feel that your time in this style of MMO is at its end.
Im sure WAR will end up alot better than WoW, but its just not what im looking for anymore. My days of playing a linear game are over for awhile.
albeit maybe darkfall will look exactly as it is shown as is now, but in a reality check here, how the hell can you compare a finished product with something that hasnt gone truly into even beta testing yet, i wouldnt do any of this verses bullshit till darkfall is done and out of beta.
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Well both shots are "pre release" work. So going by that and that tasos keeps saying "The screenshots look way better than the video graphics, And the actual ingame graphics look much better than the screenshots" I wouldnt hold my head too low for the outcome of the graphics, at least as far as we have seen armor/character wise.
they both look like they have 2 or 3 different artistic directors, so there's no cohesion... but to me WAR's graphics appear to mesh together, where Darkfall's throws randomness to the wind with what graphical enhancements each art model will use... which ultimately turns me to vote for WAR.
On a side note for the OP: when you're trying to compare 2 games, you should chose a less blurry picture for the one you want to favor. Honestly, if it's a motion or heat blur, it's ruining the experience of the screenshot.
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I wholeheartedly concur, good sir.
I call WAR WoWHammer online... i mean yes, the graphics are slightly better than WoW.. and they have a couple more features, but it seemed like I started playing WoW again when i played WAR.
And when youve beaten the living crap out of WoW and waited for new content for months just to have your endgame gear vendored, and keep doing the same thing you always did when it does come out, you feel that your time in this style of MMO is at its end.
Im sure WAR will end up alot better than WoW, but its just not what im looking for anymore. My days of playing a linear game are over for awhile.
The greenskin reminded me a lot of WoW as well as the Evergreen trees but every other zone looks nothing like WoW and looking more to LOTRO style. But with Blizzard taking the Warhammer art and tweaking it to their own that's why they have similar art styles. But WAR's textures are way better than WoW no doubt about that. You will notice the difference when you zoom into things.
But Darkfall's graphics really are not that bad I just don't like the style of the art, character models look funny to me but the environments look good. But its really hard to compare the 2 kinds of games because its both different types of art style and graphics. It all comes down to personal preference.
Darkfall is more beautiful.
And they are both Siege Battle games. So they should be close in terms of graphics. Darkfall developer team has been able to code a more effective code for the game allowing better graphics. Their artists are also more dedicated than those of Warhammers I believe.
Someone needs to make a spec map for that armor rather then leave it at all white. Makes it look like it's wrapped in plastic. At the very least greyscale the color map and futz with the levels.
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Sad but true.
And you know that....how? The second part I mean, about the more efficient code and the more dedicated artists?
I mean, nice of you to say you believe that, but I'd love to know how you come to that conclusion. See...I know for a fact WAR's graphics work in big PVP fights without causing lag/sloppy performance (for me anyway). I've yet to see that happen for DF.
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Just wait and see.
Darkfall has been designed from the beginning for mass pvp available at lower end machines.
.. It won't be long now. Darkfall launches in 2008. And the beta is probably going to happen in this month!
Exactly my point. Wait and see and don't make statements based on no evidence.
And no, the Video shown is no evidence, because the quality of the graphics in the Video is WAY below that in the screenshot pasted up there. It may be due to the compression or the capturing, but fact remains, I have not seen any evidence that DF can sport PvP battles of the massive scale they promise with the graphics they promise.
I don#t say it's impossible. But as you said. WAIT AND SEE.
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Well both shots are "pre release" work. So going by that and that tasos keeps saying "The screenshots look way better than the video graphics, And the actual ingame graphics look much better than the screenshots" I wouldnt hold my head too low for the outcome of the graphics, at least as far as we have seen armor/character wise.
they onyl look alil better thant he screenshots
and alot better than the vid
Singsofdeath, im too lazy to search right now and because i probably wont find the source but i know for a fact that Aventurine are trying to code the engine so it will support very large battle's with no lag, its also one of the reason why they took out hitboxes for all the various parts of the body, i have a feeling though that it was mentioned in one of the earlier videos. I also remember seeing it talked about in an article or something somewhere.
Yes. They said that. I know it. Does it work? I do not know that. All I'm saying here is that people are comparing a released game to a soon-to-be-released game. That makes no sense. It's like comparing the taste of a dish already in front of you, to the taste of a dish you have yet to sample. You can -hope- and -think- that the dish will taste a certain way, but you will not know until you have tasted it.
Please people, all I want is that people stop acting as though DF was already released. This can -HURT- the game in the long run.
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To go along with that, they had a set polygon count they had to adhere to for this specific reason. DarkFall has been developed with large scale battles in mind. It isn't an after thought as was the case with Age of Conan. War was built on the same thing in mind. I however do not like War's graphics or art style. The original Warhammer art work I thought was great from the table top game, the work for the MMORPG Warhammer fails in comparison this I understand may have been in large part due to the focus on massive battles. I do like DarkFalls art and graphics.
Yes. They said that. I know it. Does it work? I do not know that. All I'm saying here is that people are comparing a released game to a soon-to-be-released game. That makes no sense. It's like comparing the taste of a dish already in front of you, to the taste of a dish you have yet to sample. You can -hope- and -think- that the dish will taste a certain way, but you will not know until you have tasted it.
Please people, all I want is that people stop acting as though DF was already released. This can -HURT- the game in the long run.
There basing opinions on looks from screenshots of the two. The premise of the debate is on the screenshots alone which they can do because both exist. If I could not see any screen shots of DarkFall then I would agree with you. But based on the Screenshots of Warhammer on there official site and DarkFall screenshots on there official site I have to agree with those that say DarkFall looks better. This is just my opinion based on the evidence at hand.
Yes. They said that. I know it. Does it work? I do not know that. All I'm saying here is that people are comparing a released game to a soon-to-be-released game. That makes no sense. It's like comparing the taste of a dish already in front of you, to the taste of a dish you have yet to sample. You can -hope- and -think- that the dish will taste a certain way, but you will not know until you have tasted it.
Please people, all I want is that people stop acting as though DF was already released. This can -HURT- the game in the long run.
There basing opinions on looks from screenshots of the two. The premise of the debate is on the screenshots alone which they can do because both exist. If I could not see any screen shots of DarkFall then I would agree with you. But based on the Screenshots of Warhammer on there official site and DarkFall screenshots on there official site I have to agree with those that say DarkFall looks better. This is just my opinion based on the evidence at hand.
No. They are basing their opinions on the belief that DF will actually look like the screenshot linked in large scale PvP battles, whereas WAR has proven it can handle large-scale battles with the graphics in that screenshot.
I'm not discussing anyone who says they like one artstyle better than the other. That is subjective opinion and I respect people's tastes. What I am saying is that you have yet to see DF's graphics/engine at work, except for the video, which was, to be honest, nowhere near as pretty as that screenshot. TAs i said earlier, this could be due to video-compression, or other reasons.
And to see if DF runs smoothly in large-scale PvP with graphics quality slightly higher than the screenshot linked, we'll have to wait for the game to release. Can we agree to that?
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
Yes. They said that. I know it. Does it work? I do not know that. All I'm saying here is that people are comparing a released game to a soon-to-be-released game. That makes no sense. It's like comparing the taste of a dish already in front of you, to the taste of a dish you have yet to sample. You can -hope- and -think- that the dish will taste a certain way, but you will not know until you have tasted it.
Please people, all I want is that people stop acting as though DF was already released. This can -HURT- the game in the long run.
There basing opinions on looks from screenshots of the two. The premise of the debate is on the screenshots alone which they can do because both exist. If I could not see any screen shots of DarkFall then I would agree with you. But based on the Screenshots of Warhammer on there official site and DarkFall screenshots on there official site I have to agree with those that say DarkFall looks better. This is just my opinion based on the evidence at hand.
No. They are basing their opinions on the belief that DF will actually look like the screenshot linked in large scale PvP battles, whereas WAR has proven it can handle large-scale battles with the graphics in that screenshot.
I'm not discussing anyone who says they like one artstyle better than the other. That is subjective opinion and I respect people's tastes. What I am saying is that you have yet to see DF's graphics/engine at work, except for the video, which was, to be honest, nowhere near as pretty as that screenshot. TAs i said earlier, this could be due to video-compression, or other reasons.
And to see if DF runs smoothly in large-scale PvP with graphics quality slightly higher than the screenshot linked, we'll have to wait for the game to release. Can we agree to that?
lol I guess, the problem is though if I were to agree to that I would never be able to compare the two. It would only be video's and screen shots for me until I play DarkFall but even with that I wont be playing Warhammer to even try lol. DarkFall game play footage to me looks better than the game play footage I have seen of Warhammer as do the screenshots. I have not nor will I play Warhammer so all I can base my opinion on is the screen shots and Videos of the two. I still prefer DarkFall when it releases if it's not the same as the screenshot or video I will reconsider my opinion but with what I have at hand my opinion is that DarkFall looks better. I am not asking you to agree with me just that you quit trying to say I can not have an opinion with whats at hand. I am judging both games with the same information.
"edited pics should work:
Darkfall:
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/ork_capital?full=1
vs
Warhammer:
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/armiesofWAR/greenskins/BlackOrc05.jpg
this is not a bashing of warhammer, I have no problem with it, im not a graphics whore so warhammers graphics are fine to me... just thought his was interesting"
Thats the OP.
@GrayGhost:
I highlighted the parts of the post I was disagreeing to. As you can see, it has nothing to do with liking one graphic-style better than the next. It is the claim that DF's engine IS better than WAR's, plus the claim DF's artists are more dedicated which I was objecting to. Sorry if that somehow got lost in the back and forth.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7