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What is the purpose of the earth and why did God create it?

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  • MarleVVLLMarleVVLL Member UncommonPosts: 907

    I'll expand on these subjects if you would reply to the PMs - then again, no pressure!

    God did not put 'evil' in the heart of man. He did, however, give man free will, which ultimately ended up with Eve, then Adam eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Since then, the world has never been the same. Humans chooce to be evil everyday, God does not force them too. In fact, He wants and demands the opposite.

    Also, the world we live in is 100x more beautiful than any MMORPG can produce. Just go to google.com and search 'mountains' or the hubblesite.com (I think) and prepared to get blown away!

    Blessings,

    MMO migrant.

  • sup3rsn1p3rsup3rsn1p3r Member Posts: 93
    Originally posted by peaceandlove

    Originally posted by Fishermage

    Originally posted by peaceandlove


    There's no such thing as dieties. Come on, it's the 21st century. Everything in the bible gets disproven everyday.

     

    Let's see you prove that.



     

    Tell me about what the bible says about stars. "For our enjoyment". Really? Do you really believe that?

    I'll have to look into this. Do you know exactly where it is in the Bible?

    Do you think lightning, thunder, and floods are from angry dieties too?

    Based on the Bible, there is only one god. So, imo, there are no other dieties.

    How old is Earth? Still believe it's 4,000 years old?

    Knowing the Bible, I actually believe the Earth is 4.6-4.7 billion years old. Yes, I believe in dinosaurs, duh.

    If jesus presented himself to everybody after he flew out of his tomb, why doesn't he do it now? According to your bible, isn't every prayer answered? So where is he?

    He was there to prove he was real. God wants to test us. Back then no one had a Bible, so they needed to see to believe. We have a Bible, so God relies on us to believe him without seeing him. Btw, when I say "God", I don't mean Jesus, I mean Jehovah, I'm a Jehovah's Witness (yes, the annoying ppl who knock on your doors.) 

    Why doesn't he cure amputees? Your magical god cures everyone else right?

    He doesn't cure everyone else. He doesn't cure the ppl w/ cancer, or the ones w/ other diseases. And like I said before, he wants us to believe in him through the Bible. If he gives a dude a leg, it will be obvious that hes real and EVERYONE would go to him. And by everyone, I mean the bad people in this world, and he doesnt want bad ppl in his kingdom.

    How did Noah get 2 of every species (that's over 14 billion species x2) on 1 boat? How did he get them from every continent, then put them back where he got them from? How did he feed them? Wasn't the world still flat? How did he know about animals, bacteria, fungi, etc in South America? Where is this boat? How could something that big disappear?

    He didn't drop them off in a specific place. They spread around the world by themselves. He set them free. The world was never flat, the Bible says the world was a circle. This happend thousands of years ago, and the boat was made of wood, it would have deteriorated.

    Why can the same story in the bible be told in reference to astrology?

    This is according to Catholic belief, so yes, I do agree with you on this one, because I don't believe Jesus died in the cross, and I know the cross can be explained through astrology.

    Why wasn't a man walking on water a big deal back then? Was it common to walk on water? Or rise from the dead? Why not now?

    Not necessarily everyone believed him. Most people didn't like Jesus, therefore, they didn't listen to him. Why? Because they were too caught up in their worldly materials.

    Horice.

    I'm 15, not sure what that really means. Specify please.

    Why does god need money every sunday?

    This also has to do with the other Christian religions. In ours, we don't pass around a bucket and make everyone look at you, forcing you to put money in the bucket. You put money if you want. The money doesn't go to the pastor, because we don't have one pastor. The money goes into paying for the building we worship in. To pay electricity, water, stuff like that.

    Dinosaurs.

    We actually do believe in dinos. Obviously they're there because there are dino bones. We believe God put dinos on the land to fertilize it before he created man.

    Why do people starve to death?

    Because they're poor? I don't see where you're going with this, sorry.

    Did the courts in Chicago rule that creationist are bunk? You know, the one that was bible thumpers v. scientist. Why did the religious people lose that case? No proof? No evidence?

    I've never heard of this. If you could please find where this article is, I'd be happy to read it and comment on what I think about it.

    Unless you're the missing money-shot that would have blown that case open, I doubt you have anything factual to respond with. But humor me anyways.

     Tell me what you think! I'm always happy to discuss religion!

     

     

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  • sup3rsn1p3rsup3rsn1p3r Member Posts: 93
    Originally posted by MarleVVLL


    I'll expand on these subjects if you would reply to the PMs - then again, no pressure!
    God did not put 'evil' in the heart of man. He did, however, give man free will, which ultimately ended up with Eve, then Adam eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Since then, the world has never been the same. Humans chooce to be evil everyday, God does not force them too. In fact, He wants and demands the opposite.
    Also, the world we live in is 100x more beautiful than any MMORPG can produce. Just go to google.com and search 'mountains' or the hubblesite.com (I think) and prepared to get blown away!
    Blessings,

     

    To add to this, don't forget about Saitan. The bible says that SAITAN is the ruler of this world NOT JESUS. And because Saitan is the ruler, he wants and makes people make wrong decisions. He's the one who convinced Adam and Eve from eating the fruit on the tree of knowledge. Who's saying that he can't do it to this day?

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  • sup3rsn1p3rsup3rsn1p3r Member Posts: 93
    Originally posted by hoopty


      "God did not have to create evil, but rather only allow for the absence of good."

     

    Woah, Woah, Woah. Don't get it mixed up now. God did NOT create evil. Based on the Bible, God CREATED Satan. Satan was GOOD. But, he saw how much power God had over humans, and wanted to have that power. At that point, Evil was created. God didn't create evil, Satan did.

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  • JammaslamJammaslam Member Posts: 265

    I feel sorry for the kids who are spoon fed this stuff about as soon as they pop out of their moms.  Its like growing up being locked in a mental prison, I used to be like that, but thankfully am not now.

    I can only hope more people investigate, truly investigate and maybe meditate on such things more instead of just behaving like programmed robots and really WAKE up.

  • MarleVVLLMarleVVLL Member UncommonPosts: 907
    Originally posted by Jammaslam


    I feel sorry for the kids who are spoon fed this stuff about as soon as they pop out of their moms.  Its like growing up being locked in a mental prison, I used to be like that, but thankfully am not now.
    I can only hope more people investigate, truly investigate and maybe meditate on such things more instead of just behaving like programmed robots and really WAKE up.

     

    I am investigating these things that I believe. Up to 8 hours a day, actually - have been for a while now. I'm 100% confident that Jesus is the Messiah, which means He is God and King. I have also experienced way too many things to talk about (the power of God hitting people and throwing them back into walls and stuff). Jesus is everything the Bible says about Him. Go and research it for youself.

    Also, about Satan, he is the 'ruler of the air', but he isn't King. JESUS is Ruler over ALL the kings of the earth (Rev 1).

    BTW, if anyone wants to talk about this stuff, I'd love to have a PM conversation. Not to argue with you, but to see what you believe and why you got there as I myself have an interesting journey as well.

    Blessings,

    MMO migrant.

  • hooptyhoopty Member UncommonPosts: 788
    Originally posted by MarleVVLL

    Originally posted by Jammaslam


    I feel sorry for the kids who are spoon fed this stuff about as soon as they pop out of their moms.  Its like growing up being locked in a mental prison, I used to be like that, but thankfully am not now.
    I can only hope more people investigate, truly investigate and maybe meditate on such things more instead of just behaving like programmed robots and really WAKE up.

     

    I am investigating these things that I believe. Up to 8 hours a day, actually - have been for a while now. I'm 100% confident that Jesus is the Messiah, which means He is God and King. I have also experienced way too many things to talk about (the power of God hitting people and throwing them back into walls and stuff). Jesus is everything the Bible says about Him. Go and research it for youself.

    Also, about Satan, he is the 'ruler of the air', but he isn't King. JESUS is Ruler over ALL the kings of the earth (Rev 1).

    BTW, if anyone wants to talk about this stuff, I'd love to have a PM conversation. Not to argue with you, but to see what you believe and why you got there as I myself have an interesting journey as well.

    Blessings,



     

    Jesus is God ? According to your bible that God cannot die or any parts of him .But Jesus as God as you claim did die according to your bible..So tell me ,is Jesus the Son of God or is he really God the Father.Can a Father be his own Son?Then who is the Son?Who is God? According to your bible, the Heavens nor the Earth can Contain God.How much of God was contain in a Human body if Jesus was God?When Jesus was on that cross,according to your statement that Jesus is God..Who was Jesus praying to, if Jesus was God? God said that he cannot be tempted.But Jesus as you say is God was tempted.How do you explain the contradiction?According to your bible that Jesus was made like unto his brotherns.For another words he was made like you and me.To claim that he was God in the flesh that would be cheating wouldnt you say?Last but not least..Every where Jesus went and done he prayed, who was he praying to?Come on now im not the one who said Jesus is God..Did Jesus have a conversation to him self every time he prayed knowing that he was God?

    John the Apostle gave a very strong warning of those that say other wise..According to John it was Jesus who came in the flesh and not God.Why are you saying other wise?

    1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

    1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.



    1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:

    1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:



    1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

    2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

     

    Some people rob you at gun point..Others will rob you at "Ball Point Pen"

  • MarleVVLLMarleVVLL Member UncommonPosts: 907

    This is getting off topic and I have many answers for you. However, I will not derail this topic. IF YOU WANT, and I am willing, please PM me and we can talk about them - infact, I'd love to talk about. However, like I said, I will not disrespect Chrono and play a part in derailing his topic.

    Blessings,

    MMO migrant.

  • sup3rsn1p3rsup3rsn1p3r Member Posts: 93
    Originally posted by hoopty

    Originally posted by MarleVVLL

    Originally posted by Jammaslam


    I feel sorry for the kids who are spoon fed this stuff about as soon as they pop out of their moms.  Its like growing up being locked in a mental prison, I used to be like that, but thankfully am not now.
    I can only hope more people investigate, truly investigate and maybe meditate on such things more instead of just behaving like programmed robots and really WAKE up.

     

    I am investigating these things that I believe. Up to 8 hours a day, actually - have been for a while now. I'm 100% confident that Jesus is the Messiah, which means He is God and King. I have also experienced way too many things to talk about (the power of God hitting people and throwing them back into walls and stuff). Jesus is everything the Bible says about Him. Go and research it for youself.

    Also, about Satan, he is the 'ruler of the air', but he isn't King. JESUS is Ruler over ALL the kings of the earth (Rev 1).

    BTW, if anyone wants to talk about this stuff, I'd love to have a PM conversation. Not to argue with you, but to see what you believe and why you got there as I myself have an interesting journey as well.

    Blessings,



     

    Jesus is God ? According to your bible that God cannot die or any parts of him .But Jesus as God as you claim did die according to your bible..So tell me ,is Jesus the Son of God or is he really God the Father.Can a Father be his own Son?Then who is the Son?Who is God? According to your bible, the Heavens nor the Earth can Contain God.How much of God was contain in a Human body if Jesus was God?When Jesus was on that cross,according to your statement that Jesus is God..Who was Jesus praying to, if Jesus was God? God said that he cannot be tempted.But Jesus as you say is God was tempted.How do you explain the contradiction?According to your bible that Jesus was made like unto his brotherns.For another words he was made like you and me.To claim that he was God in the flesh that would be cheating wouldnt you say?Last but not least..Every where Jesus went and done he prayed, who was he praying to?Come on now im not the one who said Jesus is God..Did Jesus have a conversation to him self every time he prayed knowing that he was God?

    John the Apostle gave a very strong warning of those that say other wise..According to John it was Jesus who came in the flesh and not God.Why are you saying other wise?

    1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

    1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.



    1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:

    1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:



    1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

    2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

     

    According to Jehovah's Witnesses, you are on the right track. We believe that God and Jesus are 2 different people. God created the universe, the Earth, Adam and Eve, AND Jesus. We believe that God is the Father of Jesus, Jesus is (of course) his son, and the Holy Spirit is the active force of God. Therefore, we do not believe in the Trinity, because obviously, we don't believe that God and Jesus are the same person.

     

    Mark 10:18 - And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. Why would he say that about himself? Maybe because he is and god are different people.



     

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  • hooptyhoopty Member UncommonPosts: 788
    Originally posted by chrono73


    So this is a question that appears many times in my head. Why did God create an earth full of so much evil and pain? Was it to teach human beings a lesson so that they would learn to full love each other?



    Well going from the Gurus teachings and Hinduism , it makes the most sense that this earth is a piece of art or more so an on going movie. It  has all the layers of expressions that make a piece of artwork complete : disgust , beauty , hate , love , happiness , sadness , health , disease. Basically it is full of dualities , why can't we just have all the good things? Well then I suppose this on going cosmic movie/art of God wouldn't be as interesting. It makes sense to me that it is nothing from than a drama , a play or a movie as the Gurus would say. If we really were hear to learn some great lesson , couldn't it be taught in a more...positive and better way? Why don't we live on the earth forever? Why arn't we immortal? Well obviously man wasn't created to live on such a place of duality for eternity.



    Who is God? If God is omnipotent , omniscient and omnipresent than why did he give man so many issues to work out on his own and why is he so mysterious? Why is he kept so hidden from us? In one of the scriptures is says that God is infinite so how can he exist in a place of such finiteness. But then why are we finite? what was the point of making us suffer through this finite , stressful and negative world just so God could have a on going drama to entertain himself with? And what are we rewarded with for having to participate for a good hundred years without our own will , so we didn't will ourselves to be created on this earth why should we be trapped here? And yet the only way out is through this very painful process called death. How is it fair? Simply put , it isn't. If heaven does exist and it is eternal and is eternal love , peace and joy then that would be a fair reward but the question is why arn't we already there? Why are we here in this body of gross matter as a slave of the sense objects? Do we really reincarnate?



     

    I will try to answer  your questions.

    Who is God?

    God is a Spirit. He is the Creator and a Designer of the Heavens and the Earth.He is known to us as Abba which means Father.There is only One God and that is him.There no 2 or 3s as other religion teaches..Deuteronomy  6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

    If God is omnipotent , omniscient and omnipresent than why did he give man so many issues to work out on his own .and why is he so mysterious?

    Well it wasnt God.You see it was man who wanted a king to rule over them and to guide them..They more or less rejected God..Please read 1Samuel 8:4-22  Man got what they wanted..But still, God knows what the futures holds and still in controls in what needs tobe done.Even though Man has turn there backs on him.

    Why is he kept so hidden from us?

    Hes not hidden.Remember it was Man who turn on God.In order to get closer to God people need to make the first move.Its sin that seperate us from God.God knows the heart, we cant hide nothing from him.

     In one of the scriptures is says that God is infinite so how can he exist in a place of such finiteness.

    When God made things he said it was Good he never said it was perfect.But according to the bible there are three heavens..The 1st heaven is where we see the sky.The 2nd heaven is where we see the stars and the 3rd heaven is beyon the stars that is where God is.But also remember according to the bible that God is so big that the Heavens nor the Earth can contain him.Just to think that Adam and Eve tried to hide from him ..

    I will stop for now its getting late.Will try again.

    Some people rob you at gun point..Others will rob you at "Ball Point Pen"

  • MhirMhir Member Posts: 41

    The purpose of earth was the temporarily home for our soul. He created it so that we can enjoy life as we can.

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  • hooptyhoopty Member UncommonPosts: 788
    Originally posted by sup3rsn1p3r

    Originally posted by hoopty

    Originally posted by MarleVVLL

    Originally posted by Jammaslam


    I feel sorry for the kids who are spoon fed this stuff about as soon as they pop out of their moms.  Its like growing up being locked in a mental prison, I used to be like that, but thankfully am not now.
    I can only hope more people investigate, truly investigate and maybe meditate on such things more instead of just behaving like programmed robots and really WAKE up.

     

    I am investigating these things that I believe. Up to 8 hours a day, actually - have been for a while now. I'm 100% confident that Jesus is the Messiah, which means He is God and King. I have also experienced way too many things to talk about (the power of God hitting people and throwing them back into walls and stuff). Jesus is everything the Bible says about Him. Go and research it for youself.

    Also, about Satan, he is the 'ruler of the air', but he isn't King. JESUS is Ruler over ALL the kings of the earth (Rev 1).

    BTW, if anyone wants to talk about this stuff, I'd love to have a PM conversation. Not to argue with you, but to see what you believe and why you got there as I myself have an interesting journey as well.

    Blessings,



     

    Jesus is God ? According to your bible that God cannot die or any parts of him .But Jesus as God as you claim did die according to your bible..So tell me ,is Jesus the Son of God or is he really God the Father.Can a Father be his own Son?Then who is the Son?Who is God? According to your bible, the Heavens nor the Earth can Contain God.How much of God was contain in a Human body if Jesus was God?When Jesus was on that cross,according to your statement that Jesus is God..Who was Jesus praying to, if Jesus was God? God said that he cannot be tempted.But Jesus as you say is God was tempted.How do you explain the contradiction?According to your bible that Jesus was made like unto his brothers.For another words he was made like you and me.To claim that he was God in the flesh that would be cheating wouldn't you say?Last but not least..Every where Jesus went and done he prayed, who was he praying to?Come on now I'm not the one who said Jesus is God..Did Jesus have a conversation to him self every time he prayed knowing that he was God?

    John the Apostle gave a very strong warning of those that say other wise..According to John it was Jesus who came in the flesh and not God.Why are you saying other wise?

    1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that Antichrist shall come, even now are there many Antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

    1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.



    1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:

    1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:



    1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

    2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

     

    According to Jehovah's Witnesses, you are on the right track. We believe that God and Jesus are 2 different people. God created the universe, the Earth, Adam and Eve, AND Jesus. We believe that God is the Father of Jesus, Jesus is (of course) his son, and the Holy Spirit is the active force of God. Therefore, we do not believe in the Trinity, because obviously, we don't believe that God and Jesus are the same person.

     

    Mark 10:18 - And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. Why would he say that about himself? Maybe because he is and god are different people.



     



     

     I'm sorry i am not a Jehovah Witnesses..I don't believe in what Christianity teaches.I am NOT a Muslim either.My home is Jerusalem.

    Some people rob you at gun point..Others will rob you at "Ball Point Pen"

  • Demons123Demons123 Member Posts: 1

    I just want to tell what i think about this.

     

    1. I don't believe in God nor Satan.

    2. I believe in myself and gaming.

    3. I support the Big Bang theory and i'm sure it will happen again expanding the Universe even more.

    4. I believe we started from the smallest to what lives on Earth as we know it today when it was actually possible for lifeforms to appear.

    5. I'm sure most places as we see them today has been shaped by ice ages.

    6. I think someone gave people something to believe  but saying they will go to hell or be punished in some way is a bit too much.

    7. I also believe that the Dinosaurs was wiped out by a Meteor and suddenly made it hard to find something to eat.

    8. If anything existed before the Big Bang i'll be guessing it must have just been stars.

    9. Because the Universe is so big humans can't travel everywhere before the technology allows us to. and when that is possible what will we discover?

    10. Have a nice day :)

     

  • fiery_gamerfiery_gamer Member Posts: 18

    well, we are created out of love.. so we have the freedom to do anything we want basically.. but our true purpose would be to return to our Creator, God.. In order to do so, we have to prove ourselves worthy of being accepted back to his kingdom.. although this depends whether we choose it or not. we have the choice not to believe in God, do drugs, commit adultery etc. or choose the right path.. I'm not being prophetic or anything, just pointing out that anyone can freely choose which path to take and what to believe in or not.. amen!

  • shamageshamage Member Posts: 46

    Wow... This is such a deep question.

    I think God made it because He wanted to have a place where all His creations could live together in harmony. And, since He didn't exactly want to 'control' whatever He created, He let them do whatever they want to do. God basically gave everything on earth just one important thing - existence. It is the responsibility of each and everyone of us here (living or not) to 'decide' what to do with it. The plants decided to become independent and become helpful to all other living things. Insects helped the plants in their propagation. Animals were a bit selfish and began feeding the plants but was considerate enough to eat more than the plant could give. We humans were the most selfish even if we are supposedly the most gifted - we used up all the resources the world and its creatures can offer and tried to claim it as our own. God sees what we do but is constantly hoping we'll change our ways and do better. I think more and more people are realizing this but there are still a lot who still needs to be guided.

    God created earth so that we can all live in harmony. But it is also our responsibility to protect and preserve it so that it will keep on serving its purpose.

    Take time to smell the flowers!

  • JeodaJeoda Member Posts: 12

    A catholic Priest invented the Big Bang Idea,so your vote is an Oxymoron.

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  • chrono73chrono73 Member Posts: 129
    Originally posted by hoopty

    Originally posted by chrono73


    So this is a question that appears many times in my head. Why did God create an earth full of so much evil and pain? Was it to teach human beings a lesson so that they would learn to full love each other?



    Well going from the Gurus teachings and Hinduism , it makes the most sense that this earth is a piece of art or more so an on going movie. It  has all the layers of expressions that make a piece of artwork complete : disgust , beauty , hate , love , happiness , sadness , health , disease. Basically it is full of dualities , why can't we just have all the good things? Well then I suppose this on going cosmic movie/art of God wouldn't be as interesting. It makes sense to me that it is nothing from than a drama , a play or a movie as the Gurus would say. If we really were hear to learn some great lesson , couldn't it be taught in a more...positive and better way? Why don't we live on the earth forever? Why arn't we immortal? Well obviously man wasn't created to live on such a place of duality for eternity.



    Who is God? If God is omnipotent , omniscient and omnipresent than why did he give man so many issues to work out on his own and why is he so mysterious? Why is he kept so hidden from us? In one of the scriptures is says that God is infinite so how can he exist in a place of such finiteness. But then why are we finite? what was the point of making us suffer through this finite , stressful and negative world just so God could have a on going drama to entertain himself with? And what are we rewarded with for having to participate for a good hundred years without our own will , so we didn't will ourselves to be created on this earth why should we be trapped here? And yet the only way out is through this very painful process called death. How is it fair? Simply put , it isn't. If heaven does exist and it is eternal and is eternal love , peace and joy then that would be a fair reward but the question is why arn't we already there? Why are we here in this body of gross matter as a slave of the sense objects? Do we really reincarnate?



     

    I will try to answer  your questions.

    Who is God?

    God is a Spirit. He is the Creator and a Designer of the Heavens and the Earth.He is known to us as Abba which means Father.There is only One God and that is him.There no 2 or 3s as other religion teaches..Deuteronomy  6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

    If God is omnipotent , omniscient and omnipresent than why did he give man so many issues to work out on his own .and why is he so mysterious?

    Well it wasnt God.You see it was man who wanted a king to rule over them and to guide them..They more or less rejected God..Please read 1Samuel 8:4-22  Man got what they wanted..But still, God knows what the futures holds and still in controls in what needs tobe done.Even though Man has turn there backs on him.

    Why is he kept so hidden from us?

    Hes not hidden.Remember it was Man who turn on God.In order to get closer to God people need to make the first move.Its sin that seperate us from God.God knows the heart, we cant hide nothing from him.

     In one of the scriptures is says that God is infinite so how can he exist in a place of such finiteness.

    When God made things he said it was Good he never said it was perfect.But according to the bible there are three heavens..The 1st heaven is where we see the sky.The 2nd heaven is where we see the stars and the 3rd heaven is beyon the stars that is where God is.But also remember according to the bible that God is so big that the Heavens nor the Earth can contain him.Just to think that Adam and Eve tried to hide from him ..

    I will stop for now its getting late.Will try again.

     

    I don't know , I don't lean towards christianty that much ( not saying it's a bad religion or anything ) , some of the teachings are positive but Hinduism seems to make more sense to me. But do you really think we would turn our backs on God? To be in his presence is the most wonderful thing in the universe.



    I guess really we will never know his intention of why he created this earth and when we do die and are in his presence we most likely wont even want to know about such things.



     

  • sup3rsn1p3rsup3rsn1p3r Member Posts: 93
    Originally posted by hoopty

    Originally posted by sup3rsn1p3r

    Originally posted by hoopty

    Originally posted by MarleVVLL

    Originally posted by Jammaslam


    I feel sorry for the kids who are spoon fed this stuff about as soon as they pop out of their moms.  Its like growing up being locked in a mental prison, I used to be like that, but thankfully am not now.
    I can only hope more people investigate, truly investigate and maybe meditate on such things more instead of just behaving like programmed robots and really WAKE up.

     

    I am investigating these things that I believe. Up to 8 hours a day, actually - have been for a while now. I'm 100% confident that Jesus is the Messiah, which means He is God and King. I have also experienced way too many things to talk about (the power of God hitting people and throwing them back into walls and stuff). Jesus is everything the Bible says about Him. Go and research it for youself.

    Also, about Satan, he is the 'ruler of the air', but he isn't King. JESUS is Ruler over ALL the kings of the earth (Rev 1).

    BTW, if anyone wants to talk about this stuff, I'd love to have a PM conversation. Not to argue with you, but to see what you believe and why you got there as I myself have an interesting journey as well.

    Blessings,



     

    Jesus is God ? According to your bible that God cannot die or any parts of him .But Jesus as God as you claim did die according to your bible..So tell me ,is Jesus the Son of God or is he really God the Father.Can a Father be his own Son?Then who is the Son?Who is God? According to your bible, the Heavens nor the Earth can Contain God.How much of God was contain in a Human body if Jesus was God?When Jesus was on that cross,according to your statement that Jesus is God..Who was Jesus praying to, if Jesus was God? God said that he cannot be tempted.But Jesus as you say is God was tempted.How do you explain the contradiction?According to your bible that Jesus was made like unto his brothers.For another words he was made like you and me.To claim that he was God in the flesh that would be cheating wouldn't you say?Last but not least..Every where Jesus went and done he prayed, who was he praying to?Come on now I'm not the one who said Jesus is God..Did Jesus have a conversation to him self every time he prayed knowing that he was God?

    John the Apostle gave a very strong warning of those that say other wise..According to John it was Jesus who came in the flesh and not God.Why are you saying other wise?

    1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that Antichrist shall come, even now are there many Antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

    1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.



    1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:

    1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:



    1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

    2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

     

    According to Jehovah's Witnesses, you are on the right track. We believe that God and Jesus are 2 different people. God created the universe, the Earth, Adam and Eve, AND Jesus. We believe that God is the Father of Jesus, Jesus is (of course) his son, and the Holy Spirit is the active force of God. Therefore, we do not believe in the Trinity, because obviously, we don't believe that God and Jesus are the same person.

     

    Mark 10:18 - And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. Why would he say that about himself? Maybe because he is and god are different people.



     



     

     I'm sorry i am not a Jehovah Witnesses..I don't believe in what Christianity teaches.I am NOT a Muslim either.My home is Jerusalem.

     

    And I respect that, but I am just stating what I believe, just like you were stating what you believed.

    I didn't mean it in a way to offend you, I was just agreeing with you.

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  • sup3rsn1p3rsup3rsn1p3r Member Posts: 93
    Originally posted by Demons123


    I just want to tell what i think about this.
     
    1. I don't believe in God nor Satan.
    Ok, no problem, everyone has their beliefs.
    2. I believe in myself and gaming.
    So do I :P
    3. I support the Big Bang theory and i'm sure it will happen again expanding the Universe even more.
    In a way, I support the Big Bang theory too. (Shocking isn't it? I'll tell you why in a sec)
    4. I believe we started from the smallest to what lives on Earth as we know it today when it was actually possible for lifeforms to appear.
    Nothing to say here.
    5. I'm sure most places as we see them today has been shaped by ice ages.
    I agree.
    6. I think someone gave people something to believe  but saying they will go to hell or be punished in some way is a bit too much.
    I don't believe in hell, as in, when you die, you will spend eternal life in hell being tortured and stuff. NOR do I believe in a heaven, as in, when you die, you will float up into the sky and be in the kingdom of God. I believe that when we die, we will be ressurected here on Earth. Yes, EARTH. And we will re-build the Earth to make it a paradise. (That is, after the Armaggedon)
    7. I also believe that the Dinosaurs was wiped out by a Meteor and suddenly made it hard to find something to eat.
    Not so sure about the meteor. I think that a giant volcano (i.e. Yellowstone) blew up, threw sulfur and toxic waste into the air, suffocated land and air animals, bla, bla, bla. But I'm not arguing about that, because, who knows, it could have been a meteor.
    8. If anything existed before the Big Bang i'll be guessing it must have just been stars.
    But, didn't the Big Bang create the stars?
    9. Because the Universe is so big humans can't travel everywhere before the technology allows us to. and when that is possible what will we discover?
    I think of that almost everyday. We will discover new planets, galaxies, maybe even universes. Who knows whats out there?
    10. Have a nice day :)
     You too 
    Ah yes, about the big bang. If you look on my profile, you can look at the few threads I have made.  One of these threads is a theory that I sort of thought up of which actually combines the thought of God and the Big Bang together. If you would like to look into it, you may, but please no one post on it, for it is an old thread and I don't want to bring back old threads.
     

     

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  • MarleVVLLMarleVVLL Member UncommonPosts: 907
    Originally posted by chrono73



    I guess really we will never know his intention of why he created this earth and when we do die and are in his presence we most likely wont even want to know about such things.

     

    The Bible has all those questions answered. Again, if you check your inbox, we can chat about such topics.

    Also, Hinduism doesn't make sense when you really look at it. Jesus is one of the gods that you worship in that religion, however, Jesus says there is only ONE God and that ONE God CANNOT lie, so either Jesus is not God (which Hinduism says He is), or Hinduism is wrong, which I believe it is.

    My few thoughts.

    Blessings,

    MMO migrant.

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905
    Originally posted by Demons123


    I just want to tell what i think about this.
     
    1. I don't believe in God nor Satan.
    2. I believe in myself and gaming.
    3. I support the Big Bang theory and i'm sure it will happen again expanding the Universe even more.
    4. I believe we started from the smallest to what lives on Earth as we know it today when it was actually possible for lifeforms to appear.
    5. I'm sure most places as we see them today has been shaped by ice ages.
    6. I think someone gave people something to believe  but saying they will go to hell or be punished in some way is a bit too much.
    7. I also believe that the Dinosaurs was wiped out by a Meteor and suddenly made it hard to find something to eat.
    8. If anything existed before the Big Bang i'll be guessing it must have just been stars.
    9. Because the Universe is so big humans can't travel everywhere before the technology allows us to. and when that is possible what will we discover?
    10. Have a nice day :)
     

     

    What do you believe in? God or Big Bang?

    God

    Big Bang theory

     

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    You can believe in God and the Big Bang if you want.

    Scientific theory conflicts with religion not the belief in God. God is whatever YOU want it to be. Religion simply institutionalizes someones opinion on the matter.

    To answer the OP -

    What is the "purpose" of the Earth? It is a planet that exist along with many many others in the universe. What is the purpose of any planet? It is all part of a design and unknown to us.

    Why did God create it? Why did God create anything at all? It is beyond knowing. God created the cosmos, we are just a very small part of that design on the fringe of one of an unknown number of galaxies in a cosmos of infinate size and possibilities.

     

     

     

  • greymanngreymann Member Posts: 757

    God's evil alter-ego, the demiurge created the physical world.  Everything in it is evil, brutish and temporal except our spirits that come from the original father of light.  Our purpose is to connect with the light again and deny materialism so at death we will ascend back to our original state.

  • //\//\oo//\//\oo Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,767

    Metaphysics is really easy, but physics isn't. More theists should try the latter in my opinion.

     

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  • deathcabdeathcab Member Posts: 5

    It depends on what you believe in I suppose... it could just all be a coincidence anyway. I don't believe that we'll know one way or another in this lifetime.

  • hooptyhoopty Member UncommonPosts: 788

    Till now i have found that only 2 things are infinite:

    1) The Universe

    2) Human Stupidity

     

    Some people rob you at gun point..Others will rob you at "Ball Point Pen"

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