More proof of blizzards claim of 10 million subscribers is a farce.
Everyone knows the 10 million subsribers is a farce.
Everyone knows that from the 10 million about 60 procent resides in Asia and are linked to the RMT industry. (goldfarming, powerleveling, goldselling, ingame spam advertising, etc)
From the remaining 40% there is a sertain percentage that is involved in Multiboxing, in wich this guy does it to the extreme.
So in the end you are left with about 2-3 million unique players tops who are actually playing the game.
Wich ofcourse is still a lot compaired to all the other P2P MMO's out there.
Cheers
So 60% of their subscribers are asian goldfarmers, and they only have 2-3 million legit players?
So 6 million people are selling gold to a market of 2-3 million people...
Yeah, I can tell you don't pull these numbers from your ass.
In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.
This seems like a National Enquirer story to me. .... .
More like Weekly World News to me. Does this guy have 36 different credit cards?!?!??!!
This reminds me of people who had 5+ accounts in UO back when it first came out. People asked why and they said it was because they wanted to try out all the different templates. <----WTF!?!!
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
The part that makes LOL the hardest is all the peeps who say "No life, lives in a basement with mom and dad."
I'm sorry, $5K annual subscription fees, 11 different computers etc......yeah, he may be blowing his wad on something dumb like 36 WoW accounts, but apparently he has the disposable income (read: He's doing something right.) T
When did having money = "doing something right".
Having money tells me nothing about this person. I doesn't tell me if he's capable, smart, helping or caring.
What I see is a very expensive piece of machinery and a very useless goal it's being used for. I see someone wasting away money instead of benefitting society with it.
I'm sorry but I draw the line here, this isn't entertainment. You are entitled to spend your money how you like if you can somehow give something back to society, in the form of studying, working hard or helping the needy.
I'm not going to pretend I don't spend a lot of time on MMO, I do, but it's just entertainment and less than 1% of my income goes towards MMO and always should your personal goal transcend that of being something in a virtual one.
I don't agree with him doing anything right in regards to his "set up", sorry.
The part that makes LOL the hardest is all the peeps who say "No life, lives in a basement with mom and dad."
I'm sorry, $5K annual subscription fees, 11 different computers etc......yeah, he may be blowing his wad on something dumb like 36 WoW accounts, but apparently he has the disposable income (read: He's doing something right.) T
When did having money = "doing something right".
Having money tells me nothing about this person. I doesn't tell me if he's capable, smart, helping or caring.
What I see is a very expensive piece of machinery and a very useless goal it's being used for. I see someone wasting away money instead of benefitting society with it.
I'm sorry but I draw the line here, this isn't entertainment. You are entitled to spend your money how you like if you can somehow give something back to society, in the form of studying, working hard or helping the needy.
I'm not going to pretend I don't spend a lot of time on MMO, I do, but it's just entertainment and less than 1% of my income goes towards MMO and always should your personal goal transcend that of being something in a virtual one.
I don't agree with him doing anything right in regards to his "set up", sorry.
WHOA! Wait a minute.
Don't you think that that is a bit arrogant?
I mean, you have essentially stated that a person has to use their money in a way that is in accordance to how you think they should.
This is beyond scary.
Now, of course it would be nice for people to "give back" but in a way we do. We pay taxes.
So, if we were to look at your life would we find you using your money in a way that benefits society in a profound way? Do you spend more on coffee when you can be giving to the homeless? Are you recycling everything you can recycle?
Seems to me that if someone lives a good life and pays his or her taxes then he or she can use their money however they want to.
Otherwise you are going to get all sorts of people making brash statements such as you just did.
Is there a limit to how many movies I can see? Or how many books? Is there a limit to how many plastic products I should be purchasing? Or how much TV I am watching?
edit: it looks like that comes to $6,300 per year. You do realize that some people spend more than that on travel. So is there a money cap for travel? What about Weddings? Are you aware that people will spend thousands upon thousands on weddings? Now I think there should be a cap for that but I'm not going to tell someone that they can't spend 35,000.00 on a wedding if they want to!
People who feel that they have the wisdom to determine how people should be spending their money and using their time are a bit "too scary" in my opinion.
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The part that makes LOL the hardest is all the peeps who say "No life, lives in a basement with mom and dad."
I'm sorry, $5K annual subscription fees, 11 different computers etc......yeah, he may be blowing his wad on something dumb like 36 WoW accounts, but apparently he has the disposable income (read: He's doing something right.) T
When did having money = "doing something right".
Having money tells me nothing about this person. I doesn't tell me if he's capable, smart, helping or caring.
What I see is a very expensive piece of machinery and a very useless goal it's being used for. I see someone wasting away money instead of benefitting society with it.
I'm sorry but I draw the line here, this isn't entertainment. You are entitled to spend your money how you like if you can somehow give something back to society, in the form of studying, working hard or helping the needy.
I'm not going to pretend I don't spend a lot of time on MMO, I do, but it's just entertainment and less than 1% of my income goes towards MMO and always should your personal goal transcend that of being something in a virtual one.
I don't agree with him doing anything right in regards to his "set up", sorry.
So he isn't spending his money the way you think he should therefore he is in the wrong? What do you spend your money on? Do you give a shitload to all those organizations whining about money for the needy? Why should how much you spend on entertainment decide if you're a good person or not? Why do you even care? It's not like this person is stealing from you, he isn't making your life any worse than it already is. If this person is in the wrong, then so are all of the musicians and actors people look so much up to.
Get off your high horse. I can bet you don't spend most your income for the 'benefit' of society. Do you help the needy, homeless, drug addicts full of diseases, std victims, accident victims etc. Don't seem like it. You rather post a useless troll post on an equally useless, though fun thread.
Its his money, his life and its upto him what he does with both of those things.
I personally think its abit over the top, but i then look at the amount of money some women pay for shoes, infact just the other week my girlfriend showed me some Jimmy Choo's that where priced at £860, now that to me is utterly insane and why any woman would pay that much for a pair of heels that look almost identicle to the £40 ones that they had previously looked at in topshop is beyond me, but there you go.
Each to there own, aslong as what you do doesnt effect anyone else then its not a big deal.
Garrik
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"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
Get off your high horse. I can bet you don't spend most your income for the 'benefit' of society.
I'm not on any high horse. But I can see what this is, someone who needs to set his priorities straight. This has crossed the form of entertainment and went into the realm of useless money wasting and addiction. If you can't see there is something wrong with this picture you should ask yourself some questions or be a bit more critical. He's lucky he lives in the west and the USA where this is tolerated, because a lot of societies would denounce this behavior.
Everything that Sovrath said in his post was correct. Your completely up yourself.
Ultimatly, if someone wants to spend stupid amounts on a game that is upto them, i dont care if they do that aslong as it doesnt have any bad effects on other peoples lives. Yes he could be doing better things with it, but who is saying he isnt. How do you know that he isnt a millionaire and he does infact donate to charity regularly. If he did would that make him more acceptable in your books ?
You have no idea about the rest of this guys life or what he does, all you know is that he has 36 WoW accounts and because of that you class him as a piece of unhelpful garbage. Now if he does happen to be an unemployed lazy useless leech then so be it i would be the first to call him pathetic, but seeing as we dont know if that is the case, then why should we mock him just because he takes a hobby that he enjoys the the extreme.
My recommendation to you sir is to fall from your floating bubble of perfect self-righteous ideals and wake up and realise how narrow minded you actually are.
Garrik
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"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
I think it is you sir who needs to take a long fall from your floating bubble of perfect self-righteous ideals and wake up and realise how narrow minded you actually are. Garrik
You think the world spins around by people playing video games?
Some of you have a lot of growing up to do if you think this guy is in any way contributing anything to society if this is how he spends his time.
If he has a day job and actually does something else than wasting other people's man hours I will withhold my judgment.
Otherwise, he needs to get a life and do something out of the virtual realm so he's part of the real world, not just his imagination.
Awesome and cool in a nerdy way but it's without a doubt cool.
come on you are on this forum, don't say stupid things like "get a life", you are on a mmorpg forum it's about being a a lil nerdy and loving games
This guy did what many of us in some way could only dream of doing, even if we had the money we probably wouldn't do it but he is and boy does that picture with all his comps look rather awesome.
But to something else.... gosh... somehow i'm surprised it took 2 pages before some troll came up with the "OMG THIS IS THE REASON WHY WOW HAS 10+MILL SUBS!!111"
Yes obviously everyone who plays WoW plays 36 accounts.... /facepalm
Get off your high horse. I can bet you don't spend most your income for the 'benefit' of society.
I'm not on any high horse. But I can see what this is, someone who needs to set his priorities straight.
This has crossed the form of entertainment and went into the realm of useless money wasting and addiction.
If you can't see there is something wrong with this picture you should ask yourself some questions or be a bit more critical.
He's lucky he lives in the west and the USA where this is tolerated, because a lot of societies would denounce this behavior.
What are you smoking? There isn't a law ANYWHERE in the world on what you're allowed to spend your money on or not, except the obvious illegal stuff like drugs etc. If there where, I know off alot of millionares who would be in trouble.
What about that oil sheik billionare whatshisname, he is one of the world richest men. He got a huge patch of desert where he have like a 1000+ rolls royces planted with the front down just cause he think it looks pretty. That person got more money than god and is free to spend it on whatever he damn well please. Just cause you think you somehow is the moral judge on what to spend money on or not, doesn't mean you are.
I see by your profile your female. How much money you spend on shoes? You only need 2 pairs, maybe 3. 1 for summer use, 1 for winter use and 1 for parties. How many pairs you got? 10? 15? Most my female friends got between 10 and 20 pairs of shoes, an crapload of jewelry, loads of perfume and makeup tools, and I doubt you're that different from them. I don't look down on them for being a little occupied with their looks and spending alot of money on it. Infact I highly appreciate it, cause we all like to look at pretty things.
I see nothing wrong with this person spending so much on his hobby and neither should you. This aint more wrong than the stamp collector spending 1000's of dollars on rare stamps, or the art collector spending millions of dollars on shitty pictures a 5 year old could draw, and probably better.
I think it is you sir who needs to take a long fall from your floating bubble of perfect self-righteous ideals and wake up and realise how narrow minded you actually are. Garrik
You think the world spins around by people playing video games? Some of you have a lot of growing up to do if you think this guy is in any way contributing anything to society if this is how he spends his time. If he has a day job and actually does something else than wasting other people's man hours I will withhold my judgment. Otherwise, he needs to get a life and do something out of the virtual realm so he's part of the real world, not just his imagination.
When did i say anything about the world spinning thanks to people playing video games, what a silly comment to make.
Your missing the point, by not reading posts and it is making you look more and more immature as you do it.
Now try reading my post fully and you will see, i said that if he is an unemplyed leech then fine, he is pathetic, but we dont know if he is a leech and therefore it is wrong to cast judgement on him just because he takes a hobby to the extreme.
I think it is abit to late for you to withhold your judgment as you have already shown yourself to be judgemental and brash.
No use trying to change your tune now by adding that if he actually has a job then he must be ok, a few minutes ago you where saying that he should donate to charity and be the most ethical - moralistically perfect person on earth to even warrant him acceptable to partake in this hobby that he has.
If we all follow your views then surely we should shun celebrities, as they are all very, very rich who spend absurd amounts of money on clothing, houses, cars and other superficial items and alot of them get there money from doing such easy things that they could almost be classed as nothing, infact alot of celebrities careers (if you can even call them that) are more like fun than they are careers. So quickly get your cross out and start torching their $10,000,000 houses because all of that money could have gone to charity instead of on a house that only 2 people live in.
Here is a quote that i think you should learn, as it will most definatly save your from getting your teeth knocked out someday.
'Let him who is without sin cast the first stone'
Garrik
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"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
I think it is you sir who needs to take a long fall from your floating bubble of perfect self-righteous ideals and wake up and realise how narrow minded you actually are. Garrik
You think the world spins around by people playing video games?
Some of you have a lot of growing up to do if you think this guy is in any way contributing anything to society if this is how he spends his time.
If he has a day job and actually does something else than wasting other people's man hours I will withhold my judgment.
Otherwise, he needs to get a life and do something out of the virtual realm so he's part of the real world, not just his imagination.
Listen, it's all situational.
Do you have a car? well, some people (like myself) would say that you should get rid of your car and use public transportation. I did and I use a lot less money on transportation than when I had a car.
However, there are parts of the States where there is little to no public transportation so that wouldn't work for some. And for some, even if they were in a city like I am they prefer the autonomy of driving.
And sure, spending 6,500.00 usd on video games seems very extreme. However it's no different than spending an equal amount on ski trips, or boat maintenance, or Collecting Hummels (ugh) or Clothes or racing cars or any number of ways people use money.
And yes, in the U.S. or many western countries you would find more of this type of behavior than in other countries.
Well, one could say as a global society that we should all pitch in and make the world better. But there are so many people who don't share such views and even do worse things!
I am not going to tell somone they can't use their hard earned money (and we don't know how he got his money so I'm going to just assume that he got his money like other people) on things that matter to them no matter how insane I think it is. If he is not bathing and can't take care of himself then I might offer the suggestion that he needs some self improvment. But if this is how he wants to spend his hobby time then fine by me.
Because what about people who take many vacations and spend more than that? Or people who spend money on coin collections?
Or even spending any money on monthly video games? Because I'm going to tell you this, just because there are a lot of people who play online video games, every single one of my friends would be beyond horrified that I play to play two of them and 15.00 a month on each.
My Apartment mate just shakes his head and rolls his eyes when he hears this.
So sure, it's intense and I can easily see how he can better use his money. But that's because I have different priorities.
But again, I woudl tell you to get rid of your car because you are wasting money and polluting the environment. Would you listen? maybe.
As long as he is paying his taxes, leaving his neighbor alone and is somewhat happy then I'll do what my roomate does and roll my eyes and leave him alone.
Quite frankly if the world had more people who left each other alone then I think it would be a better place.
Becuase in no way can you draw a line that someone can't look at your life and see a better line to be drawn. You might think you live a morally responsible life but there is always going to be someone who is going to look at you and think you are horrible for doing some of the things you do.
We are all different and the faster we as a society can learn this and accept this then the faster we can start living together in a more peaceful way.
Quite frankly this has greater repercussions because it starts to cross over into other ways we live our life. Are you going to look at someone who is gay and start saying that that is a moral sin and that they are wasint their lives and that we need to put them into camps in order to retrain them? What about people who are very dedicated to religious worship?
Do not think for one minute there isn't someone out there who has a better concept for how any other person should be living their lives.
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Blizz just lets people do this because its more money in their pockets. I think its unfair that people do this. Id hate to run into that guy, you'd be dead with the quickness.
5 boxers do well in pve. PvP is a bit rougher. I always see them leading the way in AV, only to die, or stay on defense after the mini-boss drops.
I think it is you sir who needs to take a long fall from your floating bubble of perfect self-righteous ideals and wake up and realise how narrow minded you actually are. Garrik
You think the world spins around by people playing video games? Some of you have a lot of growing up to do if you think this guy is in any way contributing anything to society if this is how he spends his time. If he has a day job and actually does something else than wasting other people's man hours I will withhold my judgment. Otherwise, he needs to get a life and do something out of the virtual realm so he's part of the real world, not just his imagination.
Listen, it's all situational. Do you have a car? well, some people (like myself) would say that you should get rid of your car and use public transportation. I did and I use a lot less money on transportation than when I had a car. However, there are parts of the States where there is little to no public transportation so that wouldn't work for some. And for some, even if they were in a city like I am they prefer the autonomy of driving. And sure, spending 6,500.00 usd on video games seems very extreme. However it's no different than spending an equal amount on ski trips, or boat maintenance, or Collecting Hummels (ugh) or Clothes or racing cars or any number of ways people use money. And yes, in the U.S. or many western countries you would find more of this type of behavior than in other countries. Well, one could say as a global society that we should all pitch in and make the world better. But there are so many people who don't share such views and even do worse things! I am not going to tell somone they can't use their hard earned money (and we don't know how he got his money so I'm going to just assume that he got his money like other people). Because what about people who take many vacations and spend more than that? Or people who spend money on coin collections? Or even spending any money on monthly video games? Because I'm going to tell you this, just because there are a lot of people who play online video games, every single one of my friends would be beyond horrified that I play to play two of them and 15.00 a month on each. My Apartment mate just shakes his head and rolls his eyes when he hears this. So sure, it's intense and I can easily see how he can better use his money. But that's because I have different priorities. But again, I woudl tell you to get rid of your car because you are wasting money and polluting the environment. Would you listen? maybe. As long as he is paying his taxes, leaving his neighbor alone and is somewhat happy then I'll do what my roomate does and roll my eyes and leave him alone. Quite frankly if the world had more people who left each other alone then I think it would be a better place. Becuase in no way can you draw a line that someone can't look at your life and see a better line to be drawn. You might think you live a morally responsible life but there is always going to be someone who is going to look at you and think you are horrible for doing some of the things you do. We are all different and the faster we as a society can learn this and accept this then the faster we can start living together in a more peaceful way. Quite frankly this has greater repercussions because it starts to cross over into other ways we live our life. Are you going to look at someone who is gay and start saying that that is a moral sin and that they are wasint their lives and that we need to put them into camps in order to retrain them? What about people who are very dedicated to religious worship? Do not think for one minute there isn't someone out there who has a better concept for how any other person should be living their lives.
We could do this all day Sovrath but Waterlily is to stuck in his/her narrow-minded, elitist views to even understand anyone elses point of view. Hopefully one day he/she will say these sort of things in the real world and im certain sombody would give him/her the shock of his/her life, but then again its easy to express your Self-righteous views across the internet when you know you are perfectly safe in your home.
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WoW,or another kick in the balls to people who belive in mankind. 1.People die because they play WoW and neglect everything else,even their own body 2.People start acting crazy cause they cant play WoW of X reason 3.Girl offering "pleasure" for WoW gold to buy epic flying mount 4.Guy has 36 blizz accounts soo he can play a MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER online game by himself. 5.President (of you know what country) will force all schools to teach WoW class soo "nubs" stop playing
I would say that I believe in mankind more than you (which of course I don't) because I believe in personal freedoms.
I really hate people who take those freedoms away.
Should someone offer themselves for wow gold in my opinion? no.
Should someone neglect their health because of WoW or any other game? no.
But quite frankly, in the first instance you don't know if the person was very sexually free and that was part of the "kick". Is it worse to meet someone in a club and just go to bed with them because they are hot? Remember, that person wanted pictures so it was obvious she was lookinig for more than wow gold.
The second example is far more sad.
But if we are saying that someone is using 6,500.00 per year and neglecting his children or not paying his bills or taking care of himself then OF COURSE this is wrong and very few would say otherwise.
But if we are saying that they have a job, cleanse themeselves, are healthy, pay taxes and are genuinely happy and just happen to find WoW the way they want to spend extra cash then I'm sorry, I feel they should be able to do this. It's odd by my standards but I also own a 2,000.00 suit and spent 15,500.00 on a musical instrument.
Would you say that I am wrong? You might but I would say that I have the right to do that as I fall into the criteria of being a good person, I take care of myself, have friends, don't shirk my responsibiliteis, etc.
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WoW,or another kick in the balls to people who belive in mankind. 1.People die because they play WoW and neglect everything else,even their own body 2.People start acting crazy cause they cant play WoW of X reason 3.Girl offering "pleasure" for WoW gold to buy epic flying mount 4.Guy has 36 blizz accounts soo he can play a MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER online game by himself. 5.President (of you know what country) will force all schools to teach WoW class soo "nubs" stop playing
I would say that I believe in mankind more than you (which of course I don't) because I believe in personal freedoms.
I really hate people who take those freedoms away.
Should someone offer themselves for wow gold in my opinion? no.
Should someone neglect their health because of WoW or any other game? no.
But quite frankly, in the first instance you don't know if the person was very sexually free and that was part of the "kick". Is it worse to meet someone in a club and just go to bed with them because they are hot? Remember, that person wanted pictures so it was obvious she was lookinig for more than wow gold.
The second example is far more sad.
But if we are saying that someone is using 6,500.00 per year and neglecting his children or not paying his bills or taking care of himself then OF COURSE this is wrong and very few would say otherwise.
But if we are saying that they have a job, cleanse themeselves, are healthy, pay taxes and are genuinely happy and just happen to find WoW the way they want to spend extra cash then I'm sorry, I feel they should be able to do this. It's odd by my standards but I also own a 2,000.00 suit and spent 15,500.00 on a musical instrument.
Would you say that I am wrong? You might but I would say that I have the right to do that as I fall into the criteria of being a good person, I take care of myself, have friends, don't shirk my responsibiliteis, etc.
WoW,or another kick in the balls to people who belive in mankind. 1.People die because they play WoW and neglect everything else,even their own body 2.People start acting crazy cause they cant play WoW of X reason 3.Girl offering "pleasure" for WoW gold to buy epic flying mount 4.Guy has 36 blizz accounts soo he can play a MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER online game by himself. 5.President (of you know what country) will force all schools to teach WoW class soo "nubs" stop playing
I would say that I believe in mankind more than you (which of course I don't) because I believe in personal freedoms. I really hate people who take those freedoms away. Should someone offer themselves for wow gold in my opinion? no. Should someone neglect their health because of WoW or any other game? no. But quite frankly, in the first instance you don't know if the person was very sexually free and that was part of the "kick". Is it worse to meet someone in a club and just go to bed with them because they are hot? Remember, that person wanted pictures so it was obvious she was lookinig for more than wow gold. The second example is far more sad. But if we are saying that someone is using 6,500.00 per year and neglecting his children or not paying his bills or taking care of himself then OF COURSE this is wrong and very few would say otherwise. But if we are saying that they have a job, cleanse themeselves, are healthy, pay taxes and are genuinely happy and just happen to find WoW the way they want to spend extra cash then I'm sorry, I feel they should be able to do this. It's odd by my standards but I also own a 2,000.00 suit and spent 15,500.00 on a musical instrument. Would you say that I am wrong? You might but I would say that I have the right to do that as I fall into the criteria of being a good person, I take care of myself, have friends, don't shirk my responsibiliteis, etc.
QFT and QFE.
Anyone who even tries to argue with those statements are complete idiots.
Garrik
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Damn.. *stunned*
I wonder how he earns all that money..
Perhaps he sells organs ?
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Everyone knows the 10 million subsribers is a farce.
Everyone knows that from the 10 million about 60 procent resides in Asia and are linked to the RMT industry. (goldfarming, powerleveling, goldselling, ingame spam advertising, etc)
From the remaining 40% there is a sertain percentage that is involved in Multiboxing, in wich this guy does it to the extreme.
So in the end you are left with about 2-3 million unique players tops who are actually playing the game.
Wich ofcourse is still a lot compaired to all the other P2P MMO's out there.
Cheers
So 60% of their subscribers are asian goldfarmers, and they only have 2-3 million legit players?
So 6 million people are selling gold to a market of 2-3 million people...
Yeah, I can tell you don't pull these numbers from your ass.
In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.
-Thomas Jefferson
More like Weekly World News to me. Does this guy have 36 different credit cards?!?!??!!
This reminds me of people who had 5+ accounts in UO back when it first came out. People asked why and they said it was because they wanted to try out all the different templates. <----WTF!?!!
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
10.000.000 / 36 = 277,778 players. A bit more than EVE, not bad at all.
I would hate to see his power bill every month... With my computer and keeping my house deciently cool its 200+
Or perhaps gold/ max lvl charcters he no longer fits in his raid groups.
How does he make money you ask??
"Level 80 shaman on XX server, 1000 dollars"
Hmm.. Or maybe you got an email from him (or in game tell) if you were playing WoW "leveling services 1-70 two weeks."
Think about it folks..
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When did having money = "doing something right".
Having money tells me nothing about this person. I doesn't tell me if he's capable, smart, helping or caring.
What I see is a very expensive piece of machinery and a very useless goal it's being used for. I see someone wasting away money instead of benefitting society with it.
I'm sorry but I draw the line here, this isn't entertainment. You are entitled to spend your money how you like if you can somehow give something back to society, in the form of studying, working hard or helping the needy.
I'm not going to pretend I don't spend a lot of time on MMO, I do, but it's just entertainment and less than 1% of my income goes towards MMO and always should your personal goal transcend that of being something in a virtual one.
I don't agree with him doing anything right in regards to his "set up", sorry.
When did having money = "doing something right".
Having money tells me nothing about this person. I doesn't tell me if he's capable, smart, helping or caring.
What I see is a very expensive piece of machinery and a very useless goal it's being used for. I see someone wasting away money instead of benefitting society with it.
I'm sorry but I draw the line here, this isn't entertainment. You are entitled to spend your money how you like if you can somehow give something back to society, in the form of studying, working hard or helping the needy.
I'm not going to pretend I don't spend a lot of time on MMO, I do, but it's just entertainment and less than 1% of my income goes towards MMO and always should your personal goal transcend that of being something in a virtual one.
I don't agree with him doing anything right in regards to his "set up", sorry.
WHOA! Wait a minute.
Don't you think that that is a bit arrogant?
I mean, you have essentially stated that a person has to use their money in a way that is in accordance to how you think they should.
This is beyond scary.
Now, of course it would be nice for people to "give back" but in a way we do. We pay taxes.
So, if we were to look at your life would we find you using your money in a way that benefits society in a profound way? Do you spend more on coffee when you can be giving to the homeless? Are you recycling everything you can recycle?
Seems to me that if someone lives a good life and pays his or her taxes then he or she can use their money however they want to.
Otherwise you are going to get all sorts of people making brash statements such as you just did.
Is there a limit to how many movies I can see? Or how many books? Is there a limit to how many plastic products I should be purchasing? Or how much TV I am watching?
edit: it looks like that comes to $6,300 per year. You do realize that some people spend more than that on travel. So is there a money cap for travel? What about Weddings? Are you aware that people will spend thousands upon thousands on weddings? Now I think there should be a cap for that but I'm not going to tell someone that they can't spend 35,000.00 on a wedding if they want to!
People who feel that they have the wisdom to determine how people should be spending their money and using their time are a bit "too scary" in my opinion.
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When did having money = "doing something right".
Having money tells me nothing about this person. I doesn't tell me if he's capable, smart, helping or caring.
What I see is a very expensive piece of machinery and a very useless goal it's being used for. I see someone wasting away money instead of benefitting society with it.
I'm sorry but I draw the line here, this isn't entertainment. You are entitled to spend your money how you like if you can somehow give something back to society, in the form of studying, working hard or helping the needy.
I'm not going to pretend I don't spend a lot of time on MMO, I do, but it's just entertainment and less than 1% of my income goes towards MMO and always should your personal goal transcend that of being something in a virtual one.
I don't agree with him doing anything right in regards to his "set up", sorry.
So he isn't spending his money the way you think he should therefore he is in the wrong? What do you spend your money on? Do you give a shitload to all those organizations whining about money for the needy? Why should how much you spend on entertainment decide if you're a good person or not? Why do you even care? It's not like this person is stealing from you, he isn't making your life any worse than it already is. If this person is in the wrong, then so are all of the musicians and actors people look so much up to.
Get off your high horse. I can bet you don't spend most your income for the 'benefit' of society. Do you help the needy, homeless, drug addicts full of diseases, std victims, accident victims etc. Don't seem like it. You rather post a useless troll post on an equally useless, though fun thread.
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Its his money, his life and its upto him what he does with both of those things.
I personally think its abit over the top, but i then look at the amount of money some women pay for shoes, infact just the other week my girlfriend showed me some Jimmy Choo's that where priced at £860, now that to me is utterly insane and why any woman would pay that much for a pair of heels that look almost identicle to the £40 ones that they had previously looked at in topshop is beyond me, but there you go.
Each to there own, aslong as what you do doesnt effect anyone else then its not a big deal.
Garrik
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"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
I'm not on any high horse. But I can see what this is, someone who needs to set his priorities straight.
This has crossed the form of entertainment and went into the realm of useless money wasting and addiction.
If you can't see there is something wrong with this picture you should ask yourself some questions or be a bit more critical.
He's lucky he lives in the west and the USA where this is tolerated, because a lot of societies would denounce this behavior.
Everything that Sovrath said in his post was correct. Your completely up yourself.
Ultimatly, if someone wants to spend stupid amounts on a game that is upto them, i dont care if they do that aslong as it doesnt have any bad effects on other peoples lives. Yes he could be doing better things with it, but who is saying he isnt. How do you know that he isnt a millionaire and he does infact donate to charity regularly. If he did would that make him more acceptable in your books ?
You have no idea about the rest of this guys life or what he does, all you know is that he has 36 WoW accounts and because of that you class him as a piece of unhelpful garbage. Now if he does happen to be an unemployed lazy useless leech then so be it i would be the first to call him pathetic, but seeing as we dont know if that is the case, then why should we mock him just because he takes a hobby that he enjoys the the extreme.
My recommendation to you sir is to fall from your floating bubble of perfect self-righteous ideals and wake up and realise how narrow minded you actually are.
Garrik
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"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
You think the world spins around by people playing video games?
Some of you have a lot of growing up to do if you think this guy is in any way contributing anything to society if this is how he spends his time.
If he has a day job and actually does something else than wasting other people's man hours I will withhold my judgment.
Otherwise, he needs to get a life and do something out of the virtual realm so he's part of the real world, not just his imagination.
Awesome and cool in a nerdy way but it's without a doubt cool.
come on you are on this forum, don't say stupid things like "get a life", you are on a mmorpg forum it's about being a a lil nerdy and loving games
This guy did what many of us in some way could only dream of doing, even if we had the money we probably wouldn't do it but he is and boy does that picture with all his comps look rather awesome.
But to something else.... gosh... somehow i'm surprised it took 2 pages before some troll came up with the "OMG THIS IS THE REASON WHY WOW HAS 10+MILL SUBS!!111"
Yes obviously everyone who plays WoW plays 36 accounts.... /facepalm
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
I'm not on any high horse. But I can see what this is, someone who needs to set his priorities straight.
This has crossed the form of entertainment and went into the realm of useless money wasting and addiction.
If you can't see there is something wrong with this picture you should ask yourself some questions or be a bit more critical.
He's lucky he lives in the west and the USA where this is tolerated, because a lot of societies would denounce this behavior.
What are you smoking? There isn't a law ANYWHERE in the world on what you're allowed to spend your money on or not, except the obvious illegal stuff like drugs etc. If there where, I know off alot of millionares who would be in trouble.
What about that oil sheik billionare whatshisname, he is one of the world richest men. He got a huge patch of desert where he have like a 1000+ rolls royces planted with the front down just cause he think it looks pretty. That person got more money than god and is free to spend it on whatever he damn well please. Just cause you think you somehow is the moral judge on what to spend money on or not, doesn't mean you are.
I see by your profile your female. How much money you spend on shoes? You only need 2 pairs, maybe 3. 1 for summer use, 1 for winter use and 1 for parties. How many pairs you got? 10? 15? Most my female friends got between 10 and 20 pairs of shoes, an crapload of jewelry, loads of perfume and makeup tools, and I doubt you're that different from them. I don't look down on them for being a little occupied with their looks and spending alot of money on it. Infact I highly appreciate it, cause we all like to look at pretty things.
I see nothing wrong with this person spending so much on his hobby and neither should you. This aint more wrong than the stamp collector spending 1000's of dollars on rare stamps, or the art collector spending millions of dollars on shitty pictures a 5 year old could draw, and probably better.
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When did i say anything about the world spinning thanks to people playing video games, what a silly comment to make.
Your missing the point, by not reading posts and it is making you look more and more immature as you do it.
Now try reading my post fully and you will see, i said that if he is an unemplyed leech then fine, he is pathetic, but we dont know if he is a leech and therefore it is wrong to cast judgement on him just because he takes a hobby to the extreme.
I think it is abit to late for you to withhold your judgment as you have already shown yourself to be judgemental and brash.
No use trying to change your tune now by adding that if he actually has a job then he must be ok, a few minutes ago you where saying that he should donate to charity and be the most ethical - moralistically perfect person on earth to even warrant him acceptable to partake in this hobby that he has.
If we all follow your views then surely we should shun celebrities, as they are all very, very rich who spend absurd amounts of money on clothing, houses, cars and other superficial items and alot of them get there money from doing such easy things that they could almost be classed as nothing, infact alot of celebrities careers (if you can even call them that) are more like fun than they are careers. So quickly get your cross out and start torching their $10,000,000 houses because all of that money could have gone to charity instead of on a house that only 2 people live in.
Here is a quote that i think you should learn, as it will most definatly save your from getting your teeth knocked out someday.
'Let him who is without sin cast the first stone'
Garrik
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"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
WoW,or another kick in the balls to people who belive in mankind.
1.People die because they play WoW and neglect everything else,even their own body
2.People start acting crazy cause they cant play WoW of X reason
3.Girl offering "pleasure" for WoW gold to buy epic flying mount
4.Guy has 36 blizz accounts soo he can play a MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER online game by himself.
5.President (of you know what country) will force all schools to teach WoW class soo "nubs" stop playing
You think the world spins around by people playing video games?
Some of you have a lot of growing up to do if you think this guy is in any way contributing anything to society if this is how he spends his time.
If he has a day job and actually does something else than wasting other people's man hours I will withhold my judgment.
Otherwise, he needs to get a life and do something out of the virtual realm so he's part of the real world, not just his imagination.
Listen, it's all situational.
Do you have a car? well, some people (like myself) would say that you should get rid of your car and use public transportation. I did and I use a lot less money on transportation than when I had a car.
However, there are parts of the States where there is little to no public transportation so that wouldn't work for some. And for some, even if they were in a city like I am they prefer the autonomy of driving.
And sure, spending 6,500.00 usd on video games seems very extreme. However it's no different than spending an equal amount on ski trips, or boat maintenance, or Collecting Hummels (ugh) or Clothes or racing cars or any number of ways people use money.
And yes, in the U.S. or many western countries you would find more of this type of behavior than in other countries.
Well, one could say as a global society that we should all pitch in and make the world better. But there are so many people who don't share such views and even do worse things!
I am not going to tell somone they can't use their hard earned money (and we don't know how he got his money so I'm going to just assume that he got his money like other people) on things that matter to them no matter how insane I think it is. If he is not bathing and can't take care of himself then I might offer the suggestion that he needs some self improvment. But if this is how he wants to spend his hobby time then fine by me.
Because what about people who take many vacations and spend more than that? Or people who spend money on coin collections?
Or even spending any money on monthly video games? Because I'm going to tell you this, just because there are a lot of people who play online video games, every single one of my friends would be beyond horrified that I play to play two of them and 15.00 a month on each.
My Apartment mate just shakes his head and rolls his eyes when he hears this.
So sure, it's intense and I can easily see how he can better use his money. But that's because I have different priorities.
But again, I woudl tell you to get rid of your car because you are wasting money and polluting the environment. Would you listen? maybe.
As long as he is paying his taxes, leaving his neighbor alone and is somewhat happy then I'll do what my roomate does and roll my eyes and leave him alone.
Quite frankly if the world had more people who left each other alone then I think it would be a better place.
Becuase in no way can you draw a line that someone can't look at your life and see a better line to be drawn. You might think you live a morally responsible life but there is always going to be someone who is going to look at you and think you are horrible for doing some of the things you do.
We are all different and the faster we as a society can learn this and accept this then the faster we can start living together in a more peaceful way.
Quite frankly this has greater repercussions because it starts to cross over into other ways we live our life. Are you going to look at someone who is gay and start saying that that is a moral sin and that they are wasint their lives and that we need to put them into camps in order to retrain them? What about people who are very dedicated to religious worship?
Do not think for one minute there isn't someone out there who has a better concept for how any other person should be living their lives.
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5 boxers do well in pve. PvP is a bit rougher. I always see them leading the way in AV, only to die, or stay on defense after the mini-boss drops.
We could do this all day Sovrath but Waterlily is to stuck in his/her narrow-minded, elitist views to even understand anyone elses point of view. Hopefully one day he/she will say these sort of things in the real world and im certain sombody would give him/her the shock of his/her life, but then again its easy to express your Self-righteous views across the internet when you know you are perfectly safe in your home.
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"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
I would say that I believe in mankind more than you (which of course I don't) because I believe in personal freedoms.
I really hate people who take those freedoms away.
Should someone offer themselves for wow gold in my opinion? no.
Should someone neglect their health because of WoW or any other game? no.
But quite frankly, in the first instance you don't know if the person was very sexually free and that was part of the "kick". Is it worse to meet someone in a club and just go to bed with them because they are hot? Remember, that person wanted pictures so it was obvious she was lookinig for more than wow gold.
The second example is far more sad.
But if we are saying that someone is using 6,500.00 per year and neglecting his children or not paying his bills or taking care of himself then OF COURSE this is wrong and very few would say otherwise.
But if we are saying that they have a job, cleanse themeselves, are healthy, pay taxes and are genuinely happy and just happen to find WoW the way they want to spend extra cash then I'm sorry, I feel they should be able to do this. It's odd by my standards but I also own a 2,000.00 suit and spent 15,500.00 on a musical instrument.
Would you say that I am wrong? You might but I would say that I have the right to do that as I fall into the criteria of being a good person, I take care of myself, have friends, don't shirk my responsibiliteis, etc.
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Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
I would say that I believe in mankind more than you (which of course I don't) because I believe in personal freedoms.
I really hate people who take those freedoms away.
Should someone offer themselves for wow gold in my opinion? no.
Should someone neglect their health because of WoW or any other game? no.
But quite frankly, in the first instance you don't know if the person was very sexually free and that was part of the "kick". Is it worse to meet someone in a club and just go to bed with them because they are hot? Remember, that person wanted pictures so it was obvious she was lookinig for more than wow gold.
The second example is far more sad.
But if we are saying that someone is using 6,500.00 per year and neglecting his children or not paying his bills or taking care of himself then OF COURSE this is wrong and very few would say otherwise.
But if we are saying that they have a job, cleanse themeselves, are healthy, pay taxes and are genuinely happy and just happen to find WoW the way they want to spend extra cash then I'm sorry, I feel they should be able to do this. It's odd by my standards but I also own a 2,000.00 suit and spent 15,500.00 on a musical instrument.
Would you say that I am wrong? You might but I would say that I have the right to do that as I fall into the criteria of being a good person, I take care of myself, have friends, don't shirk my responsibiliteis, etc.
BIGGG QTF X10000
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
QFT and QFE.
Anyone who even tries to argue with those statements are complete idiots.
Garrik
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"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
Wow..talk about being shot down fast
Well, when you post nonsense...
Anyway, I love that version of the Raven, Garrik. It's the ultimate expression of geekdom
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