The thing that is puzzling me though is, you look at the official trailer and it looks completely CRAP. However, you look at the screenshots on the website and they look at lot better. So which is the truth and which is the "marketing" strategy? I'm puzzled because no one in their right minds would use THAT video to market the game IF they've been able to screencapture images that look 10x better. So wheres the movie that coincides with the screenshots on the website? Or are they just "staged"?
If you are inferring that video compression is the cause for the crap looking graphics then sorry, you're blind. Video compression cannot turn a correctly textured surface into something which looks like a perfectly created block with covered with a really badly drawn stone design wall paper. This is the sort of modeling you could do in Half Life 1.
Then theres the textures of the other buildings too, and explosions which remind you of what you used to see in R-Type. And models which, whilst they may have armour textures that reflect a light source, they hold their weapons like they are about to join a protest rally. The animations consist of only a small amount of moves which (aside from running) only causes the top half of the body to actually do anything.
The thing that is puzzling me though is, you look at the official trailer and it looks completely CRAP. However, you look at the screenshots on the website and they look at lot better. So which is the truth and which is the "marketing" strategy? I'm puzzled because no one in their right minds would use THAT video to market the game IF they've been able to screencapture images that look 10x better. So wheres the movie that coincides with the screenshots on the website? Or are they just "staged"?
xvid double pass gets you a small file out of raw footage in top quality, not to talk about the mac exclusive one, compression isn't a escuse im afraid.
The thing that is puzzling me though is, you look at the official trailer and it looks completely CRAP. However, you look at the screenshots on the website and they look at lot better. So which is the truth and which is the "marketing" strategy? I'm puzzled because no one in their right minds would use THAT video to market the game IF they've been able to screencapture images that look 10x better. So wheres the movie that coincides with the screenshots on the website? Or are they just "staged"?
If you are inferring that video compression is the cause for the crap looking graphics then sorry, you're blind. Video compression cannot turn a correctly textured surface into something which looks like a block covered with a really badly drawn stone design wall paper.
And again you leave out that the vid was recorded on low/meduim settings, also is this the one from Youtube or from the actual download. From the Blurred objects in the back it doesn't look like you actualy downloaded the vid like the rest of us did but merely used the Youtube copy. Again I will say you don't have to have faith in the game nor do you have to take anyones word on anything because well Aventurine WANTS you to try the game FREE and see for yourself if you will like it or not BEFORE you spend a dime on the game.
Actually I've downloaded the 668mb trailer and its sat on my desktop. That is where I took that screenshot from. The quality of that screenshot is due to just screenshotting Windows Media Player and converting the shot into Jpeg. But again, this doesnt cover the fact that the textures are still awful. The graphics are blocky. Look at the trailer yourself and you'll be able to see for yourself.
I'm fully aware of the low/medium settings used and THAT's part of the problem.
My point is, why did the devs release such an awful video which bears no resemblence to the nice pics on their website?
Trailers are very powerful when it comes to marketing an MMO. They tell a great deal. Why didn't the devs release a high quality settings movie as well to promote the game. Surely that would also be beneficial for people to compare the two.
Perhaps the reason is that at this point, there is a performance issue with the game running at high settings. After all, its only just going into Beta. Still, time will tell if that's the case.
EDIT: I've seen the conference vid, I have my reservations, but I've discussed them on another thread. We'll see how Beta turns out and whether such a game can stand up in such an aggressive industry.
So since you guys are comparing games I would like to show you some images of Earthrise that was released in March. This image is not the end result and is still eligiable for change.For a direct link to this picture. http://www.stratics.com/php-bin/show_content.php?content=26881
Don't look at the mountains look at what is up close. That is unpolished high end-graphics, It should be expected tho as they are using Scaleform and also speedtree. (btw Scaleform was used in Crysis, Mass Effect, and since Feb 18 of this year it has been integrated with Epic's Unreal Engine 3. So yeah....) So don't say DF graphics is GREAT for the industry or for its time.
So since you guys are comparing games I would like to show you some images of Earthrise that was released in March. This image is not the end result and is still eligiable for change.For a direct link to this picture. http://www.stratics.com/php-bin/show_content.php?content=26881 Don't look at the mountains look at what is up close. That is unpolished high end-graphics, It should be expected tho as they are using Scaleform and also speedtree. (btw Scaleform was used in Crysis, Mass Effect, and since Feb 18 of this year it has been integrated with Epic's Unreal Engine 3. So yeah....) So don't say DF graphics is GREAT for the industry or for its time.
Why did you have to go and do that, now all these crazy DF fans are going to troll Earthrise with vaporware posts.
That pic scares me, I'll need a super computer to run that.
So since you guys are comparing games I would like to show you some images of Earthrise that was released in March. This image is not the end result and is still eligiable for change.For a direct link to this picture. http://www.stratics.com/php-bin/show_content.php?content=26881 Don't look at the mountains look at what is up close. That is unpolished high end-graphics, It should be expected tho as they are using Scaleform and also speedtree. (btw Scaleform was used in Crysis, Mass Effect, and since Feb 18 of this year it has been integrated with Epic's Unreal Engine 3. So yeah....) So don't say DF graphics is GREAT for the industry or for its time.
Why did you have to go and do that, now all these crazy DF fans are going to troll Earthrise with vaporware posts.
That pic scares me, I'll need a super computer to run that.
yea i know it slooks good it really does. but what system will you need?
darkfall is meant to play on all kinds of systems like WOW
God the annimations are just horrid. WHen they run the only thing that moves are the legs when they attack only the the arms ( and maybe if your lucky you will get a little torso sway in there) . They really need a new annimator ..... I'm not saying i could do better im just saying way way below par.
So since you guys are comparing games I would like to show you some images of Earthrise that was released in March. This image is not the end result and is still eligiable for change.For a direct link to this picture. http://www.stratics.com/php-bin/show_content.php?content=26881 Don't look at the mountains look at what is up close. That is unpolished high end-graphics, It should be expected tho as they are using Scaleform and also speedtree. (btw Scaleform was used in Crysis, Mass Effect, and since Feb 18 of this year it has been integrated with Epic's Unreal Engine 3. So yeah....) So don't say DF graphics is GREAT for the industry or for its time.
Why did you have to go and do that, now all these crazy DF fans are going to troll Earthrise with vaporware posts.
That pic scares me, I'll need a super computer to run that.
Sorry! I had to post something to show good graphics of upcoming games.
God the annimations are just horrid. WHen they run the only thing that moves are the legs when they attack only the the arms ( and maybe if your lucky you will get a little torso sway in there) . They really need a new annimator ..... I'm not saying i could do better im just saying way way below par.
I am just wondering what do you think of the DF graphics than? Wait don't answer that... I know what you are going to say....
I'm sorry but if thats how they intend to release earthrise it's already a failure because a lot of mmorpg gamers won't be able to play it. There will be no large scale pvp or raids and most of their player base will be runing at 5 fps.
It's ok to have graphics like that on consoles because everyone has the same hardware but on pc it's not giong to happen.
I'm sorry but if thats how they intend to release earthrise it's already a failure because a lot of mmorpg gamers won't be able to play it. There will be no large scale pvp or raids and most of their player base will be runing at 5 fps. It's ok to have graphics like that on consoles because everyone has the same hardware but on pc it's not giong to happen. Lets see some footage of it running on 2006 rig.
No worries by the time earthrise comes out in 2010 maybe later we will be able to run it decently.
hell the game isn't even in alpha and you're calling it failure?
Earthrise Is the next generation of MMOs it isn't fair to put it up against DF anyway.
hmm this game looks like an ps1 game...crappy design crappy graphics... i really hope gameplay is awesome cause that´s what matters..
Yup, Darkfall looks JUST like a PS1 game. Really, the graphics are not top notch, we all know that. But comparing them to games from 1998, PS1 games, this just plain stupid. We know the graphics are better than WoW, which was a huge success despite its poor graphics (it actually helped, due to low system requirements)
But really, you're losing the sight of this. Darkfall wants massive PvP battles. 100 and 200 man battles are NOT possible with Age of Conan graphics. You know what AoC graphics do? Because of the system demand for AoC, every zone has multiple instances, with a limit of 50 or so people. Their big siege system, which was supposed to be a big deal, is limited to 24 people, and they get HORRIBLE FPS while they fight, in an instanced zone. Now this is all with the basic MMO layout, with targetting and automatically hitting and whatnot.
How do you expect Darkfall to be able to run if you aim your swing, aim your spell, aim your bow, have collision detection, have momentum based damage, physics effecting arrows and people being hit by spells and cannons, +100-200 people, AND have next gen graphics? You can't do this, you just can't do it. Not even Blizzard could do that, much less an INDY company. Give it a rest guys. Graphics can come later, I'd rather be able to snipe people off horseback (which you saw in the video) than have my hips sway slightly more smoothly, and have a higher poly count on my chainmail (even though you can already see the individual links, engraven emblems, and reflections on it, a massive step above most games out anyway)
You want great gameplay from an Indy company, well you won't get Vanguard graphics for it.
The footage shown is the same footage on the official movie on the Darkfall website. Except the one on the DF website is not a camera looking at a screen, its taken from inside the game. Trust me, watch THAT movie and the lack of polygons and animation really stands out. The graphics are on a par with the original DAOC screenshot that someone posted earlier. Btw, make sure you watch it to the VERY end for the "magical hovercrafts" that join in the battle lol. Yes good graphics don't make a good game on their own. But, people are very fickle and superficial. If the game looks like its 5 years old, then that WILL have a big impact on potential sales and subs. i feel sorry for DF, because it SOUNDS like it could be fun, but when you see the trailers it makes you whince. The thing that is puzzling me though is, you look at the official trailer and it looks completely CRAP. However, you look at the screenshots on the website and they look at lot better. So which is the truth and which is the "marketing" strategy? I'm puzzled because no one in their right minds would use THAT video to market the game IF they've been able to screencapture images that look 10x better. So wheres the movie that coincides with the screenshots on the website? Or are they just "staged"?
As has been said many many MANY times before the video was shot at medium settings, and was raw footage that had resolution issues. Screenshots are regular settings that most people will use, that's why they work better.
Also, Dark Age of Camelot still has probably the 3rd best graphics on the market, as far as the realistic approach is. When you get to the stylized WoW stuff, its personal preference (I do not like it). Dark Age of Camelot has a solid graphics engine, and if Darkfall looked just like it, I'd be happy, cause it'd beat most MMOs that way.
I'm sorry but if thats how they intend to release earthrise it's already a failure because a lot of mmorpg gamers won't be able to play it. There will be no large scale pvp or raids and most of their player base will be runing at 5 fps. It's ok to have graphics like that on consoles because everyone has the same hardware but on pc it's not giong to happen. Lets see some footage of it running on 2006 rig.
ohh no no no.. Everyone will be able to run it. Don't worry about that. You will have to read about it to understand the technology they are applying to make everything run smoothier than that of DF. How will earthrise do that? Well they implanted advanced culling, caching, level of detail, prediction, and compression algorithms to reduce the load and the capacity needed to run the game. If someone has a statement of DF talking about how they will make it easier for the server and the client please post the link.. I would love to read about that.
Again...The screenshot I showed is only a snip of Earthrise. I bet the graphics will still be insanly good even on a 2006 computer and be able to run the game very well.
Btw I thought the screen shots were high resolution... Also wasn't there a gameplay video released that was said to be on high resolution also. I think I saw it and it lookd not all that great either. But again who cares about the graphics gameplay is more important.
I'm sorry but if thats how they intend to release earthrise it's already a failure because a lot of mmorpg gamers won't be able to play it. There will be no large scale pvp or raids and most of their player base will be runing at 5 fps. It's ok to have graphics like that on consoles because everyone has the same hardware but on pc it's not giong to happen. Lets see some footage of it running on 2006 rig.
ohh no no no.. Everyone will be able to run it. Don't worry about that. You will have to read about it to understand the technology they are applying to make everything run smoothier than that of DF. How will earthrise do that? Well they implanted advanced culling, caching, level of detail, prediction, and compression algorithms to reduce the load and the capacity needed to run the game. If someone has a statement of DF talking about how they will make it easier for the server and the client please post the link.. I would love to read about that.
Again...The screenshot I showed is only a snip of Earthrise. I bet the graphics will still be insanly good even on a 2006 computer and be able to run the game very well.
Btw I thought the screen shots were high resolution... Also wasn't there a gameplay video released that was said to be on high resolution also. I think I saw it and it lookd not all that great either. But again who cares about the graphics gameplay.
There IS actually a page floating around the internet about their server technology. They're doing something similar to server clusters. I am afraid to say that I do not have it though.
2 of the biggest games WoW & Sims, not that i have much love for either but graphics/computers for the average person are outdated. When friends see me running high-end games with high setting on my computer alot of the time they are blown away.
"Earthrise Is the next generation of MMOs it isn't fair to put it up against DF anyway."
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No it isn't. It's not next generation at all. There's nothing really new in the game. Not saying that's a bad thing, but to call it next gen is kind of an overstatement.
And graphics are purely a matter of taste. The enviroment in DFO is amaing to me, better than AOC. The character models are low poly, yet for that they look decent. AOC beat everyone of character modeling but suffered as a result.
Honestly, those Earthrise pictures do not really impress me. There are a few good shots however, so I will hold my judgements till release. And yes, I will be trying that game as well since it's a completely different type of sandbox MMO that we haven't had in a while.
"Earthrise Is the next generation of MMOs it isn't fair to put it up against DF anyway."
----- No it isn't. It's not next generation at all. There's nothing really new in the game.
Earthrise will have everything Darkfall will have, and then some. Dynamic combat, open-world PvP, full loot PvP, guild territories, skill-based classless system and a player-run economy. It's taking things a step further than Darkfall with customizable abilities and highly customizable crafting. All in a scifi setting.
So please, read up on the game before you make statements like these.
I'm sorry but if thats how they intend to release earthrise it's already a failure because a lot of mmorpg gamers won't be able to play it. There will be no large scale pvp or raids and most of their player base will be runing at 5 fps. It's ok to have graphics like that on consoles because everyone has the same hardware but on pc it's not giong to happen. Lets see some footage of it running on 2006 rig.
ohh no no no.. Everyone will be able to run it. Don't worry about that. You will have to read about it to understand the technology they are applying to make everything run smoothier than that of DF. How will earthrise do that? Well they implanted advanced culling, caching, level of detail, prediction, and compression algorithms to reduce the load and the capacity needed to run the game. If someone has a statement of DF talking about how they will make it easier for the server and the client please post the link.. I would love to read about that.
Again...The screenshot I showed is only a snip of Earthrise. I bet the graphics will still be insanly good even on a 2006 computer and be able to run the game very well.
Btw I thought the screen shots were high resolution... Also wasn't there a gameplay video released that was said to be on high resolution also. I think I saw it and it lookd not all that great either. But again who cares about the graphics gameplay is more important.
www.darkfallinfo.com there are tons of quotes interviews of the devs stating what you just did.
And where the hell is this DF vs Earthrise coming from? sci fi vs fantasy MMO. Lets debate Rune vs Lord of the rings while we are at it then.
"Earthrise Is the next generation of MMOs it isn't fair to put it up against DF anyway."
----- No it isn't. It's not next generation at all. There's nothing really new in the game.
Earthrise will have everything Darkfall will have, and then some. Dynamic combat, open-world PvP, full loot PvP, guild territories, skill-based classless system and a player-run economy. It's taking things a step further than Darkfall with customizable abilities and highly customizable crafting. All in a scifi setting.
So please, read up on the game before you make statements like these.
Edit: Changed to future-tense
Actually I have heard of Earthrise a few times now so I decided to look it up. From what I have read it will be more linear with sandbox elements rather than a pure sandbox. The only things it seems to have that DarkFall doesn't is Earthrise looks like it will have zones, it has pets (which DarkFall has taken out and put on the back burner) and of course the Sci fi element. Now there is something deffinetly different that it has. It has an offline skill up. While offline you gain in advancement of the career you chose. The game in general looks much more geared to the casual player to me which is fine. From what I have read it will have some of what DarkFall has with a few things it doesn't but no your statement that it has all the features DarkFall has it way off base. It looks interesting but not my cup of tea. I prefer fantasy settings over Sci fi and while DarkFall does have room for both casual and hardcore players it sounds like Earthrise will have less for the hardcore player but more for the casual player. With the Sci Fi and Fantasy difference as well as the one being more geared for the Hardcore player and the other more for the casual player I honestly feel there will be room for both on the market. I don't think DarkFall and Earthrise will compete much at all with each other. It looks and sounds like it will be more or less competing with EvE.
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You need to learn about video compression.
If you are inferring that video compression is the cause for the crap looking graphics then sorry, you're blind. Video compression cannot turn a correctly textured surface into something which looks like a perfectly created block with covered with a really badly drawn stone design wall paper. This is the sort of modeling you could do in Half Life 1.
Then theres the textures of the other buildings too, and explosions which remind you of what you used to see in R-Type. And models which, whilst they may have armour textures that reflect a light source, they hold their weapons like they are about to join a protest rally. The animations consist of only a small amount of moves which (aside from running) only causes the top half of the body to actually do anything.
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You need to learn about video compression.
xvid double pass gets you a small file out of raw footage in top quality, not to talk about the mac exclusive one, compression isn't a escuse im afraid.
You need to learn about video compression.
If you are inferring that video compression is the cause for the crap looking graphics then sorry, you're blind. Video compression cannot turn a correctly textured surface into something which looks like a block covered with a really badly drawn stone design wall paper.
And again you leave out that the vid was recorded on low/meduim settings, also is this the one from Youtube or from the actual download. From the Blurred objects in the back it doesn't look like you actualy downloaded the vid like the rest of us did but merely used the Youtube copy. Again I will say you don't have to have faith in the game nor do you have to take anyones word on anything because well Aventurine WANTS you to try the game FREE and see for yourself if you will like it or not BEFORE you spend a dime on the game.
Actually I've downloaded the 668mb trailer and its sat on my desktop. That is where I took that screenshot from. The quality of that screenshot is due to just screenshotting Windows Media Player and converting the shot into Jpeg. But again, this doesnt cover the fact that the textures are still awful. The graphics are blocky. Look at the trailer yourself and you'll be able to see for yourself.
I'm fully aware of the low/medium settings used and THAT's part of the problem.
My point is, why did the devs release such an awful video which bears no resemblence to the nice pics on their website?
Trailers are very powerful when it comes to marketing an MMO. They tell a great deal. Why didn't the devs release a high quality settings movie as well to promote the game. Surely that would also be beneficial for people to compare the two.
Perhaps the reason is that at this point, there is a performance issue with the game running at high settings. After all, its only just going into Beta. Still, time will tell if that's the case.
EDIT: I've seen the conference vid, I have my reservations, but I've discussed them on another thread. We'll see how Beta turns out and whether such a game can stand up in such an aggressive industry.
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So since you guys are comparing games I would like to show you some images of Earthrise that was released in March. This image is not the end result and is still eligiable for change.
For a direct link to this picture. http://www.stratics.com/php-bin/show_content.php?content=26881
Don't look at the mountains look at what is up close. That is unpolished high end-graphics, It should be expected tho as they are using Scaleform and also speedtree. (btw Scaleform was used in Crysis, Mass Effect, and since Feb 18 of this year it has been integrated with Epic's Unreal Engine 3. So yeah....) So don't say DF graphics is GREAT for the industry or for its time.
Why did you have to go and do that, now all these crazy DF fans are going to troll Earthrise with vaporware posts.
That pic scares me, I'll need a super computer to run that.
Playing: Nothing
Looking forward to: Nothing
Why did you have to go and do that, now all these crazy DF fans are going to troll Earthrise with vaporware posts.
That pic scares me, I'll need a super computer to run that.
yea i know it slooks good it really does. but what system will you need?
darkfall is meant to play on all kinds of systems like WOW
God the annimations are just horrid. WHen they run the only thing that moves are the legs when they attack only the the arms ( and maybe if your lucky you will get a little torso sway in there) . They really need a new annimator ..... I'm not saying i could do better im just saying way way below par.
Why did you have to go and do that, now all these crazy DF fans are going to troll Earthrise with vaporware posts.
That pic scares me, I'll need a super computer to run that.
Sorry!
I had to post something to show good graphics of upcoming games.
I am just wondering what do you think of the DF graphics than? Wait don't answer that... I know what you are going to say....
What games do you play? just wondering?
WTF us up with the guy riding the mount at 4:32?
I'm sorry but if thats how they intend to release earthrise it's already a failure because a lot of mmorpg gamers won't be able to play it. There will be no large scale pvp or raids and most of their player base will be runing at 5 fps.
It's ok to have graphics like that on consoles because everyone has the same hardware but on pc it's not giong to happen.
Lets see some footage of it running on 2006 rig.
hmm this game looks like an ps1 game...crappy design crappy graphics... i really hope gameplay is awesome cause that´s what matters..
No worries by the time earthrise comes out in 2010 maybe later we will be able to run it decently.
hell the game isn't even in alpha and you're calling it failure?
Earthrise Is the next generation of MMOs it isn't fair to put it up against DF anyway.
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Looking forward to: Nothing
Yup, Darkfall looks JUST like a PS1 game. Really, the graphics are not top notch, we all know that. But comparing them to games from 1998, PS1 games, this just plain stupid. We know the graphics are better than WoW, which was a huge success despite its poor graphics (it actually helped, due to low system requirements)
But really, you're losing the sight of this. Darkfall wants massive PvP battles. 100 and 200 man battles are NOT possible with Age of Conan graphics. You know what AoC graphics do? Because of the system demand for AoC, every zone has multiple instances, with a limit of 50 or so people. Their big siege system, which was supposed to be a big deal, is limited to 24 people, and they get HORRIBLE FPS while they fight, in an instanced zone. Now this is all with the basic MMO layout, with targetting and automatically hitting and whatnot.
How do you expect Darkfall to be able to run if you aim your swing, aim your spell, aim your bow, have collision detection, have momentum based damage, physics effecting arrows and people being hit by spells and cannons, +100-200 people, AND have next gen graphics? You can't do this, you just can't do it. Not even Blizzard could do that, much less an INDY company. Give it a rest guys. Graphics can come later, I'd rather be able to snipe people off horseback (which you saw in the video) than have my hips sway slightly more smoothly, and have a higher poly count on my chainmail (even though you can already see the individual links, engraven emblems, and reflections on it, a massive step above most games out anyway)
You want great gameplay from an Indy company, well you won't get Vanguard graphics for it.
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As has been said many many MANY times before the video was shot at medium settings, and was raw footage that had resolution issues. Screenshots are regular settings that most people will use, that's why they work better.
Also, Dark Age of Camelot still has probably the 3rd best graphics on the market, as far as the realistic approach is. When you get to the stylized WoW stuff, its personal preference (I do not like it). Dark Age of Camelot has a solid graphics engine, and if Darkfall looked just like it, I'd be happy, cause it'd beat most MMOs that way.
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are you nuts?
ohh no no no.. Everyone will be able to run it. Don't worry about that. You will have to read about it to understand the technology they are applying to make everything run smoothier than that of DF. How will earthrise do that? Well they implanted advanced culling, caching, level of detail, prediction, and compression algorithms to reduce the load and the capacity needed to run the game. If someone has a statement of DF talking about how they will make it easier for the server and the client please post the link.. I would love to read about that.
Again...The screenshot I showed is only a snip of Earthrise. I bet the graphics will still be insanly good even on a 2006 computer and be able to run the game very well.
Btw I thought the screen shots were high resolution... Also wasn't there a gameplay video released that was said to be on high resolution also. I think I saw it and it lookd not all that great either. But again who cares about the graphics gameplay is more important.
ohh no no no.. Everyone will be able to run it. Don't worry about that. You will have to read about it to understand the technology they are applying to make everything run smoothier than that of DF. How will earthrise do that? Well they implanted advanced culling, caching, level of detail, prediction, and compression algorithms to reduce the load and the capacity needed to run the game. If someone has a statement of DF talking about how they will make it easier for the server and the client please post the link.. I would love to read about that.
Again...The screenshot I showed is only a snip of Earthrise. I bet the graphics will still be insanly good even on a 2006 computer and be able to run the game very well.
Btw I thought the screen shots were high resolution... Also wasn't there a gameplay video released that was said to be on high resolution also. I think I saw it and it lookd not all that great either. But again who cares about the graphics gameplay.
There IS actually a page floating around the internet about their server technology. They're doing something similar to server clusters. I am afraid to say that I do not have it though.
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2 of the biggest games WoW & Sims, not that i have much love for either but graphics/computers for the average person are outdated. When friends see me running high-end games with high setting on my computer alot of the time they are blown away.
"Earthrise Is the next generation of MMOs it isn't fair to put it up against DF anyway."
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No it isn't. It's not next generation at all. There's nothing really new in the game. Not saying that's a bad thing, but to call it next gen is kind of an overstatement.
And graphics are purely a matter of taste. The enviroment in DFO is amaing to me, better than AOC. The character models are low poly, yet for that they look decent. AOC beat everyone of character modeling but suffered as a result.
Honestly, those Earthrise pictures do not really impress me. There are a few good shots however, so I will hold my judgements till release. And yes, I will be trying that game as well since it's a completely different type of sandbox MMO that we haven't had in a while.
Earthrise will have everything Darkfall will have, and then some. Dynamic combat, open-world PvP, full loot PvP, guild territories, skill-based classless system and a player-run economy. It's taking things a step further than Darkfall with customizable abilities and highly customizable crafting. All in a scifi setting.
So please, read up on the game before you make statements like these.
Edit: Changed to future-tense
The graphics are on par with Warhammer, spellborn and many of the other games being released. Comparing them to 5 year old games is ridiculous.
ohh no no no.. Everyone will be able to run it. Don't worry about that. You will have to read about it to understand the technology they are applying to make everything run smoothier than that of DF. How will earthrise do that? Well they implanted advanced culling, caching, level of detail, prediction, and compression algorithms to reduce the load and the capacity needed to run the game. If someone has a statement of DF talking about how they will make it easier for the server and the client please post the link.. I would love to read about that.
Again...The screenshot I showed is only a snip of Earthrise. I bet the graphics will still be insanly good even on a 2006 computer and be able to run the game very well.
Btw I thought the screen shots were high resolution... Also wasn't there a gameplay video released that was said to be on high resolution also. I think I saw it and it lookd not all that great either. But again who cares about the graphics gameplay is more important.
www.darkfallinfo.com there are tons of quotes interviews of the devs stating what you just did.
And where the hell is this DF vs Earthrise coming from? sci fi vs fantasy MMO. Lets debate Rune vs Lord of the rings while we are at it then.
Earthrise will have everything Darkfall will have, and then some. Dynamic combat, open-world PvP, full loot PvP, guild territories, skill-based classless system and a player-run economy. It's taking things a step further than Darkfall with customizable abilities and highly customizable crafting. All in a scifi setting.
So please, read up on the game before you make statements like these.
Edit: Changed to future-tense
Actually I have heard of Earthrise a few times now so I decided to look it up. From what I have read it will be more linear with sandbox elements rather than a pure sandbox. The only things it seems to have that DarkFall doesn't is Earthrise looks like it will have zones, it has pets (which DarkFall has taken out and put on the back burner) and of course the Sci fi element. Now there is something deffinetly different that it has. It has an offline skill up. While offline you gain in advancement of the career you chose. The game in general looks much more geared to the casual player to me which is fine. From what I have read it will have some of what DarkFall has with a few things it doesn't but no your statement that it has all the features DarkFall has it way off base. It looks interesting but not my cup of tea. I prefer fantasy settings over Sci fi and while DarkFall does have room for both casual and hardcore players it sounds like Earthrise will have less for the hardcore player but more for the casual player. With the Sci Fi and Fantasy difference as well as the one being more geared for the Hardcore player and the other more for the casual player I honestly feel there will be room for both on the market. I don't think DarkFall and Earthrise will compete much at all with each other. It looks and sounds like it will be more or less competing with EvE.