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Well said. Though thesedays i do wait for player reviews to come out now about games. A 4 person applauding the game and 40 cursing the game says to me loud and clearly, to stay away from it, at this moment in time, take another look 6-12mths down the line, if its still got the same feedback from whatever players are left (or low server populations then that also says the same thing, stay away from it.
Yes make sure we all stay away from the game because ManeStream has consolidated the number of negative MMO posts versus the number of possitive MMO posts
. I challenge you ManeStream, round up a list over all people that have played AoC after 17th of Sep and see how many that will paint you that doom picture you crave. I am very sure you by fare will get most + reviewes. Finally when you run your 4 vs 40 thing in the post above, does Lumache, Orzo, Cuda69 or any of those other 20 MMORPG personalities that crazy AoC hater has count as one poster or as +20? If not, I think you need to reconsidder you recomondation method. In my opinion, the best thing to do, is to find people that currently play the game and get their oppinion based on real play. It's just gonna be an opinion, but it is ten times better than what you suggest.
Sadly thats very tough around here since so many that claim to play are obvious over the top advetisers for the game. As far as trying to paint it as if the people who dislike the game are runnig multiple account s to bad mouth thegame you of course, in the name of fairness< are going to name the large number that showed up after it was suggested that they come here to spam the forums about how great the game is?? This thread is the perfect example and all of the usual suspects seem to be present. Some cover it up better than others but they are pretty transparent.
Oh an dplease be sure to add "crazy aoc lover who has accounts ( I thnk you meant accounts)as one poster or 20" to your vocabulary if you plan on being taken seriously. Its far from one sided.
You basically agree with me then. ManeStreams 4 vs 40 method is probably off the wall wrong. Again, ask a few gamers that actually play AoC about what they think. There would probably be 10 times more help in this approach.
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Cobra you may want to think about changing your Avatar, it kind of suggests you aren't very good at picking winners.
If all of you who claim to love the game really do you would be well serverd to get people like this out of here. Their over the top reviews and obvious attempsts at deceit do more to damage the game than any amount of haters could.
What are you talking about?
He's probably talking about that particular shill for the game. In fact, that's the one that first instigated others on the AoC forum a few weeks ago to come to the MMORPG forum and fill it with positive current messages. His line of persuasion was to discredit dissenters by propagating the blanket claim that anyone that didn't like the game must not have played it recently. Unfortunately, there are many of us here that currently play, or have played very recently.
Strangely enough, his relentless messages of pure propaganda is so apparent that he even annoys fans of the game - few people can stand him anymore even on the AoC official forum.
To me, it's one thing to discuss the merits of a game. It's another to come to a message board with an agenda like that - honesty is usually the first casualty.
Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.
Age of Conan isn't horrible. I would give Tortage a 7/10. After that it quickly falls to a 4/10.
But to rate this game a 10/10?
This is viral marketing or someone has broken out of the asylum and snuck onto a computer.
Tecmo Bowl.
I personally think the game opens up after Tortage, i would not give it a 10/10 prolly 8/10 the bugs and crap i encountered in beta are non existent from what i have seen, the maps are not as small as some ppl say, and it has Zones? my AoC sreens load twice as quick as Warhammer's screens now if we want to talk about immersion breaking i can see where you are coming from but i wait no longer than 5 seconds max between screens some are Instantanious (is that a word? well it is now)
Overall i think the game has come a bloody long way since launch and i know that there was all the fiasco with FC but the game itself does deserve a lot better than 6/10 so FC lied and screwed ppl over, so they say but would you still be there if they implemented what they said they would, i mean it does make me laugh we all knew it was gonna be a PC resource hog but yet when it launch ppl did nothing but whinge and complain because there PC's could not handle it.
Just this Morning my Guild would have recruited i reckon about 35-40 ppl in a span of about 2-3 hours that to me is a good sign, all i can say is that if you can Look past FC's debacle of a launch and see where the game has come from and heading then i think a few ppl will have different opinions, and please do not come here and tell me ""i resubbed and there ws no 1 on, the servers were dead yada yada yada so im not gonna play"" SET server is alive and kicking i actually had myself fighting to get to mobs today because there was too many damn ppl on lol, now you can say what a load of shit but i know what i seen and experienced this morning SET server was going off , yeah ok this is only 1 server out of how many? but if ppl opened there eye's now instead of focussing on the past they could prolly roll and enjoy themselves as well.
I have not made it to top of the lvl's so i cant comment on that area but up to early 50's (52) the game seems fine can honestly say i have encountered 1 bug and that was just a matter of my toon not putting his shield away when he should have so therefore i was holding an arrow and shield in the one hand, heh minor glitch which was fixed once i Zoned form that area anyways.
The Game is not perfect but is pretty bloody good, the only thing that turns me off the game is the fact that some ppl still like to blaitantly spread shit about the game when they have not been there since launch or are yet to even try it.
All my Opinion and am not stating this is how it is for everyone just my Experience in game so far.
I give it 8/10 for how it as it's current state.
Think of my review this way. AoC would have been a 10/10 if it wasn't for the crafting system. Crafting pulls AoC down to a 9/10. Easy and honest.
Think of my review this way. AoC would have been a 10/10 if it wasn't for the crafting system. Crafting pulls AoC down to a 9/10. Easy and honest.
So your saying if the crafting was inplemented and good the game would be 10/10. That means its the perfect game with no room for improvement?
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Well said. Though thesedays i do wait for player reviews to come out now about games. A 4 person applauding the game and 40 cursing the game says to me loud and clearly, to stay away from it, at this moment in time, take another look 6-12mths down the line, if its still got the same feedback from whatever players are left (or low server populations then that also says the same thing, stay away from it.
Yes make sure we all stay away from the game because ManeStream has consolidated the number of negative MMO posts versus the number of possitive MMO posts
. I challenge you ManeStream, round up a list over all people that have played AoC after 17th of Sep and see how many that will paint you that doom picture you crave. I am very sure you by fare will get most + reviewes. Finally when you run your 4 vs 40 thing in the post above, does Lumache, Orzo, Cuda69 or any of those other 20 MMORPG personalities that crazy AoC hater has count as one poster or as +20? If not, I think you need to reconsidder you recomondation method. In my opinion, the best thing to do, is to find people that currently play the game and get their oppinion based on real play. It's just gonna be an opinion, but it is ten times better than what you suggest.
Sadly thats very tough around here since so many that claim to play are obvious over the top advetisers for the game. As far as trying to paint it as if the people who dislike the game are runnig multiple account s to bad mouth thegame you of course, in the name of fairness< are going to name the large number that showed up after it was suggested that they come here to spam the forums about how great the game is?? This thread is the perfect example and all of the usual suspects seem to be present. Some cover it up better than others but they are pretty transparent.
Oh an dplease be sure to add "crazy aoc lover who has accounts ( I thnk you meant accounts)as one poster or 20" to your vocabulary if you plan on being taken seriously. Its far from one sided.
You basically agree with me then. ManeStreams 4 vs 40 method is probably off the wall wrong. Again, ask a few gamers that actually play AoC about what they think. There would probably be 10 times more help in this approach.
Actually no a I think that even if you take out duplicate accounts on both sides the writing is on th ewall and the numbers are probably very similar in relation to what AOC started out with in their number of players and what they have now. Thats not good.
You should try to sell this "10/10" crap to the people who got their PvP levels in a legitimate way, and got it rolled back to 0 (ZERO), just because my grandma codes better then FC devs, and my grandpa can do better QA...
10 out of 10 for a game as heavily instanced as AOC that's meant to be a MMO? 10 out of 10 for MMO with a combat system that's half baked due to being scrapped a year from launch, then rushed developed back in with not much clear thought gone into it? The only gamers that will remotely find AOC a MMO they would play is generation Y, or better put those who cut their teeth on MMO's starting with Blizzards MMO, and console gamers when they get it on the xbox360.
Well said. Though thesedays i do wait for player reviews to come out now about games. A 4 person applauding the game and 40 cursing the game says to me loud and clearly, to stay away from it, at this moment in time, take another look 6-12mths down the line, if its still got the same feedback from whatever players are left (or low server populations then that also says the same thing, stay away from it.
Yes make sure we all stay away from the game because ManeStream has consolidated the number of negative MMO posts versus the number of possitive MMO posts
. I challenge you ManeStream, round up a list over all people that have played AoC after 17th of Sep and see how many that are willing to paint you that doom Picaso you so badly crave. I am very sure you by fare will get most + reviews. Finally when you run your 4 vs 40 thing, does Lumache, Orzo, Cuda69 or any of those other 20 MMORPG personalities which that crazy AoC hater post count as one poster or as +20? If not, I think you need to reconsidder your method. In my opinion, the best thing to do, is to find people that currently play the game and get their opinion based on real play. It's just going to be another opinion, but it is ten times better than what you suggest.
hmmm, yes but were in my post did i say this was the only site i look up information about the game? I actually go to 2 other places besides here, i also speak to people who are playing the game (only 2 are left playing it, but only very rarely) and they have both said not to get it yet. Just using 1 information site is stupid as yes, you can only get a slight picture of the game and yes there are idiots out there that like to create umpteen accounts to spam bad stuff on the same forum, why i dont know, for me 1 is enough. This is for AoC.
As far as warhammer goes, everyone is saying to go for the US version, its running good, its got good support, and the game is doing well, unfortunatly, the EU version is a very very poor job and is a failure. LOL but that has come as no surprise to me anyways. I have 4 friends in the game (there was 9 but 5 have left) 2 are leaving once their gametime has run out, 1 is undecided what he is going to do, and the other is going to see how he can get onto the US servers instead.
The information is there that can give you a damn good idea of how games are and how they are being run, i am sorry but at a 4-1 ratio (or worse) of poor feedback you have to go with that. I bought 2 or 3 games myself and didnt listen to poor feedback and wish i had, nowe before i purchase a game i look for information, i aint going to be screwed over any bloody more by companies that want to make a buck on a substandard game that doesnt give what they had offered (vanguard was the last one and really did it for me) as half the stuff in the manual hadent even been implemented into the game and half of what was didnt work or was bugged. 3out of 5 quests were broken/bugged too and i really felt as if i had been con'ed into purchasing that one, i had been warned prier to my purchase and i just didnt listen, now i do and if games are not at least 70/30 for it i wont bother, i wont disguard it permantly i will just hunt out info 6-12 mths down the line, thats more than enough time for it to improve, if it hasnt then it gets disguarded permantly.
That is why i am still playing WoW, old game=yes, boring game i would have to say yes, community i would have to say poor attitudes, friends i have and find i have to say good, i have met several really good people there, but only about 5 are left and 1 (possible 2) of these may be leaving for warhammer (US side if they can, see above). At least we still stay in contact via MSN for news on mmo's they are playing.
So please again, tell me where in my 1st statement i said i only look here? Were also did i tell you to stay away from the game, i did say I, and not you, i also said wait 6-12mths as well and then hunt out feedback, but you neglected to read that bit also.
PezzBomb, the new Patch with Ymirs content get easily a 9/10 from me. The rest of the game is still 8/10 for me, but as I said the new content is 9/10. Great work from Funcoms side.
I just started AoC and give it a 8/10 so fare.
Pezz, your review is getting old. Perhaps you should make another one? Have you been to Ymirs Pass?
I am not posting in these forums any more. I'm over in AoC's forum most of the time.
Latest highlights though: I just crafted myself a new helm with a purple horn arrangement. Look like a punker lol. Kind of cool.
I have been over in Ymirs Pass. FC really just made a good game better in that area. So unbelivably well made.
I am not posting in these forums any more. I'm over in AoC's forum most of the time.
Well that's a blatant lie if i ever read one.
Ok, who dig this old flame war thread up?
Really? After a month and a half of slamming WAR ( I checked your post history), now you are drinking the AoC Kool-Aid? You spam the WAR boards with the putrid nerd reject rhetoric that has shaped your life as if you opion in this world means anything . You are yet another shill being paid to spam these forums with absolute garbage.
Did I mention that you have a screen name of "ScamMan". What a pathetic human being.
A 10/10? The only features they had that set it apart from WoW never made it to launch. The epic 100vs100 battles aren't possible, in PvP wasn't even in at release.
PvP, city building, drunken brawling, spell weaving, were all lies.
8 directional combat was also taken out before the WoW kiddie beta testers couldn't handle something that was actually complex. Every zone is instanced and capped at 50 players. The road in each zone is linear, you can't climb those mountains that they keep showing you standing on in the videos, end game is almost identical to EQ and WoW. (it was old in EQ guys) and finally, the forums are a police state where you can't even report bugs/the developers and mods are probably the worst I've ever seen in a game.
Darkfall Travelogues!
Just to let you know, (seems like you have not played the game) you can have more than 50 ppl per zone (I did post video proof before) Spell Weaving is in (bugged to start, but in and pretty good in some situations now) I was there when guild city was built
I can climb many mountains right to the top. PvP?
Is this another 5 mins of play 5 months ago who didn't get the memo about cut features prior to release?
Dis-information at it's finest..
And NO imo the game is not a 10/10, but at least the votes on this site put it above the poor review of the game.
Just to let you know, (seems like you have not played the game) you can have more than 50 ppl per zone (I did post video proof before) Spell Weaving is in (bugged to start, but in and pretty good in some situations now) I was there when guild city was built
I can climb many mountains right to the top. PvP?
Is this another 5 mins of play 5 months ago who didn't get the memo about cut features prior to release?
Dis-information at it's finest..
And NO imo the game is not a 10/10, but at least the votes on this site put it above the poor review of the game.
What SignusM says makes sense actually.
100vs100 - lol
PvP - Nothing like they promised. Imo boring button smashing with little or no skill required.
city building - Cities are boring dead places. Good indicator of how unfinished AoC is. Building them is superboring grind.
drunken brawling - Didn't make it in launch and never will. They scrapped the whole idea.
spell weaving - Total joke. Useless in pvp and almost useless and boring in pve.
I recommend everyone to read the Eurogamer review. It's couple of months old but still spot on and they gave AoC 6/10.
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"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
Yes I recommend everyone read the NEW EUROGAMER ARTICLE:
"Crushing your enemies and driving them before you is superb fun in Age of Conan. With a little more work, PVP could easily be what redeems Age of Conan in gamers' eyes."
All 3 pages of it: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=310223
Again 5 mins of play 5 months ago is nothing to bring to the table and holds little weight these days, you seem a very confused person, one might think MPD?...
That '5 mins 5 months ago', sound bite you love throwing around is super dismissive. (Even if Craig Morrison likes to use it as well)
Many of us played to end game and have seen all the patch notes, we know where the game stands, it is more stable, and some of the missing content has been added. But. it hasn't changed as radically as you would like to suggest..
That '5 mins 5 months ago', sound bite you love throwing around is super dismissive. (Even if Craig Morrison likes to use it as well)
Many of us played to end game and have seen all the patch notes, we know where the game stands, it is more stable, and some of the missing content has been added. But. it hasn't changed as radically as you would like to suggest..
When was the last time you played? August? Sure the game has changed, yes not as radically as you think, that I think! Simple fact is that changes have been implemented, the biggest free update ever just went in and several essential updates are imminent. Those people with a couple hundred posts with nothing good to say about AoC have to wake up and eat the cornflakes and at least acknowledge that the game is going in the right direction and tangible evidence is in game right now, instead of spewing the same stuff over and over. There is a difference from seeing patch notes and playing - ultimately I don't care if people who hate the game come back, there is a factual difference in the approach that information is talked about from those still playing. I don't need to convince anyone, it's the haters that need to convince new people not to bother. Where as I can say play the game it speaks for itself, whatever you feeling on the game either way is ok, but I can recommend it, just like with any other product I like and feel ok with that.
About respect. I can honestly respect your decision to be cautious and the game might not be exactly what you like. Thats alright, nothing wrong with that. There are many of us out there that do enjoy the game though and play regularly. It's obvious for those players to see the differences from day 1 to present some massive differences that have happened, but then you need to be specific in order to get a proper reply.
Maybe Craig read some comments on here - or maybe it is just the general conclusion that seems to hold weight in 99% of one line AoC is shit statements and so wrong for basing that assumption 6 months ago on the game where as it is widely accepted in the community (the same one your active in) that it has changed for the better. Amongst all the hate, AoC ruined my life, AoC gave me impotence, AoC broke me and my girlfriend up, AoC made me do drugs and whatever crappy end of the earth comments people want to bring up it's just a video game, not the saviour of the universe, it had a rough launch and now it's getting better and that is something some people who rather not admit to because AoC some how impaired their judgement from their experience with the game and turned them into a hate parade half a year on saying the same tired responses. It's all around us here, out dated, out of fashion, and some are in need of help..
Simple fact is the hype is over, the dust has settled, the game is not a 10/10 never will be and any other game out there should never get a 10 either. What ever level you put AoC at, it is getting better and that is what upsets some here so much.
That '5 mins 5 months ago', sound bite you love throwing around is super dismissive. (Even if Craig Morrison likes to use it as well)
Many of us played to end game and have seen all the patch notes, we know where the game stands, it is more stable, and some of the missing content has been added. But. it hasn't changed as radically as you would like to suggest..
When was the last time you played? August? Sure the game has changed, yes not as radically as you think, that I think! Simple fact is that changes have been implemented, the biggest free update ever just went in and several essential updates are imminent. Those people with a couple hundred posts with nothing good to say about AoC have to wake up and eat the cornflakes and at least acknowledge that the game is going in the right direction and tangible evidence is in game right now, instead of spewing the same stuff over and over. There is a difference from seeing patch notes and playing - ultimately I don't care if people who hate the game come back, there is a factual difference in the approach that information is talked about from those still playing. I don't need to convince anyone, it's the haters that need to convince new people not to bother. Where as I can say play the game it speaks for itself, whatever you feeling on the game either way is ok, but I can recommend it, just like with any other product I like and feel ok with that.
About respect. I can honestly respect your decision to be cautious and the game might not be exactly what you like. Thats alright, nothing wrong with that. There are many of us out there that do enjoy the game though and play regularly. It's obvious for those players to see the differences from day 1 to present some massive differences that have happened, but then you need to be specific in order to get a proper reply.
Maybe Craig read some comments on here - or maybe it is just the general conclusion that seems to hold weight in 99% of one line AoC is shit statements and so wrong for basing that assumption 6 months ago on the game where as it is widely accepted in the community (the same one your active in) that it has changed for the better. Amongst all the hate, AoC ruined my life, AoC gave me impotence, AoC broke me and my girlfriend up, AoC made me do drugs and whatever crappy end of the earth comments people want to bring up it's just a video game, not the saviour of the universe, it had a rough launch and now it's getting better and that is something some people who rather not admit to because AoC some how impaired their judgement from their experience with the game and turned them into a hate parade half a year on saying the same tired responses. It's all around us here, out dated, out of fashion, and some are in need of help..
Simple fact is the hype is over, the dust has settled, the game is not a 10/10 never will be and any other game out there should never get a 10 either. What ever level you put AoC at, it is getting better and that is what upsets some here so much.
This wall of text seems to say otherwise.
I thought I had been paying attention pretty well, I don't think I have ever seen a single one of those statements made here.
Try laying off the hyperbole if you want to be taken seriously. 5mins/5months thing is a perfect example of that
I think a lot of the perpetually regurgitated backlash you see here on these forums is directly caused by a certain poster(s) that members feel is coming here to do 'viral marketing' (their words, not mine).
People tend to 'fight fire with fire'. If you want these forums to be a less polarized place maybe you can use your IN with MMORPG.com and ask the mods to close out the many obvious multi-account-agenda-zealots who are basically making a mockery of this forums intended function.
I am sure you are aware of whom I am refering to. If these people were permanently removed from the boards, this would instantly become a much gentler, kinder place.
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I would encourage you to do the same, i have already emailed community@mmorpg.com a few times with very thorough examples and evidence with yet they have acted on, supplemented by further PM's from people pointing out certain things. Game conversation aside, this is screwing these forums up to no end and those people know who they are. It eschews the real context of topics when 20% of the posts in them are from the same person under different names. Such as this thread gives such extremes both ways.
Btw those statements are extreme sarcasm, but it's true I don't need to convince anyone, it's the opinion I have from my own concurrent experiences in game. Take a look at Straddens post here: www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/212780 you can just imagine the types of posts to follow if someting like that was posted here.