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This article you talk about is only about pvp and it was actually written by the same guy. Here is what he says in the end:
"As we approach the half-year point, Conan's PVP systems remain far from perfect, and some features (like Drunken Brawling, a just-for-fun PVP mode which would allow players of all levels to compete with one another on equal standing) haven't made it in as yet."
"Yet many of the improvements required are more basic - more variety in the mini-games, a rethink of some World PVP consequences, and a further round of bug fixes on Sieges would all do wonders for the game."
So he's saying FC still has a lot of work to do regarding pvp. Personally the lack of meaningful endgame pvp made me quit the game.
What I was talking about earlier was the Eurogamer Age of Conan re-review (like I said, written by the same guy). You can find it here:
www.eurogamer.net/article.php
He gave AoC 6/10 and it's a good review imo. And what I've seen here on the forums, most people agree.
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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
Most people voted it over a 7 here:
And it has bee rising the past few weeks. What does that tell you.
Metacritic gives it 8/10. Pick your favourite media review and go with that - what ever makes the reader happy.
These are facts and not broad sweeping statements that are not accurate - hence the guy who wrote the Eurogamer review failed to research properly that Drunken Brawling was canned, finito, gone... end of story.
All I see is people clinging on to outdated information that barely has any reference any more. Even the review here was wrote at a time before genuine game improving features and additions were added in.
And I am sorry but I hold the opinion that it is wrong for so many games on the list here to recieve higher scores like Last Chaos - it is just simply WRONG and that is what more people complained about rather than the score.
You talk about outdated information. Well, 95% of those metacritic reviews you talked about were made a long long time ago, most of them just after launch by reviewers who hadn't even finished Tortage. How does that give a good information about the situation right now?
It is a known fact that most people first like AoC but once they reach the higher levels they get bored and quit. This is the reason AoC got so good reviews after launch. It's also the reason why 85-90% of players quit the game after a couple of months. AoC is an ok game for a month or two but doesn't have that magic that keeps you coming online day after day.
I never trust user reviews like what they have on this site. They can be biased, made by shills or trolls. I believe Eurogamer Age of Conan re-review is the most recent review made by a respectable gaming site, and like I said they gave AoC 6/10.
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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
I would encourage you to do the same, i have already emailed community@mmorpg.com a few times with very thorough examples and evidence with yet they have acted on, supplemented by further PM's from people pointing out certain things. Game conversation aside, this is screwing these forums up to no end and those people know who they are. It eschews the real context of topics when 20% of the posts in them are from the same person under different names. Such as this thread gives such extremes both ways.
Btw those statements are extreme sarcasm, but it's true I don't need to convince anyone, it's the opinion I have from my own concurrent experiences in game. Take a look at Straddens post here: www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/212780 you can just imagine the types of posts to follow if someting like that was posted here.
Many of the users here have done just that, I personally have sent in atleast 4 e-mails in the past 2 months, some directly to Mods I have coressponded with. It seems maybe the staff don't have the proper tools to verify that the accounts are all originating from a single source. It's unfortunate, it hurts the community here as well the credibility and relavance of MMORPG.com as an entity.
A troll thread is a troll thread, .... taking a pro or con stance matters not when folks are basically posting nonsensical rubbish (this OP) and 'nanny nanny boo-boo' to bait replies.
Folks have talked about some of the things posted here as bening 'viral marketting', it may or may not be. But the root effect is obvious. Walking into a church and loudly proclaiming "There is no God, Santa Claus told me so!" will ellicit a ton of responses .. it's automatic.
Either way the conversation that follows is pointless, believers will believe, others will call them fools, the world keeps turning and a real discussion is once again drowned out by zealots and their screams.
I don't have to hate on the Age of Conan, I have a crystal ball, it works perfectly because it sees backwards and history repeats itself. FunCom's attitude toward players and it's uneven policies, combined with their shoddy Customer Service turn every fan against them at some point ... I have watched it happen over and over and over during the last 7 years.
Call it a 'water is wet, the sky is blue' thing.
AoC is a very solid 8/10 now. Very solid!
Didn't we just discuss teh rampant problem of people making as many user accounts as they please?? It tells me someone has way too much time on their hands.
That sharp rise followed immediately after a poor front page review here on MMORPG.com and the fanbois became enraged and wanted to lynch the guy.
And Yes, I really do beleive someone would go to all the trouble making that many user accounts to bump the number up, it seems to be the life's mission of a few rabid nutjobs around here to try in anyway possible to get some kind of public vindication of their personal emotional investment in this title.
Didn't we just discuss teh rampant problem of people making as many user accounts as they please?? It tells me someone has way too much time on their hands.
That sharp rise followed immediately after a poor front page review here on MMORPG.com and the fanbois became enraged and wanted to lynch the guy.
And Yes, I really do beleive someone would go to all the trouble making that many user accounts to bump the number up, it seems to be the life's mission of a few rabid nutjobs around here to try in anyway possible to get some kind of public vindication of their personal emotional investment in this title.
If you can take the time to copy and paste screenshot s and add it to your post to prove a point that almost everyone agree from the get go, well then, I guess you just proved people can go to great lenghts just to satisfy their egos.
Don't get me wrong, this is not bad, the better you feel about yourself the better you are to people around you.
As for the main topic, it all boils down to whether you like a game or not.And to jump on the bandwagon of love or hate is just the same, it's an EASY RIDE WITH THE FEELGOOD MOB!
"There is no way AoC can have a 6/10 score"
And yet...
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
Yes, I think you are right. I always wondered where these review numbers come from.
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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
Didn't we just discuss teh rampant problem of people making as many user accounts as they please?? It tells me someone has way too much time on their hands.
That sharp rise followed immediately after a poor front page review here on MMORPG.com and the fanbois became enraged and wanted to lynch the guy.
And Yes, I really do beleive someone would go to all the trouble making that many user accounts to bump the number up, it seems to be the life's mission of a few rabid nutjobs around here to try in anyway possible to get some kind of public vindication of their personal emotional investment in this title.
If you can take the time to copy and paste screenshot s and add it to your post to prove a point that almost everyone agree from the get go, well then, I guess you just proved people can go to great lenghts just to satisfy their egos.
Don't get me wrong, this is not bad, the better you feel about yourself the better you are to people around you.
As for the main topic, it all boils down to whether you like a game or not.And to jump on the bandwagon of love or hate is just the same, it's an EASY RIDE WITH THE FEELGOOD MOB!
Lets just say some people around here put their hands over their ears and scream 'la,la,la,la" It took literally 60 secs to put that capture there. Visual is better than verbal in this case. Many people forget, it shows a rising trend to the contrary. Captured for posterity
The low score has less to do with bugs, than with so much content that is missing or incomplete. Many BASIC mmo dynamics of the game are not up to contemporary standards. FC's conduct with regards to its playerbase has been horrible.
I understand that many people will say its normal for an MMO to be released in a state like this, but not only does that excuse not negate the truth of the charges against the game, it does in fact validate them.
For me AoC gets a 80/100 maybe low 80's so its a solid 8/10 for me to. However I am not bothered by the bad press anymore. On the server I play 'aquilonia' EU the population has increased substantially in the last 6 weeks and I am now seeing a steady state of population rather than the spikes at peak hours. My observations come from seeing:
* Global chat very chatty and in some ways its hard to read as it moves too quick.
* All of a sudden my items are being bought on the market and when I stick new items on they go pretty quick.
* Even last night i was involved in a PvP battle with at least 20 on each side. Probably a mix of 4 guilds on each side and that creamed anything I saw in WAR. In fact it made WAR's RvR look pathetic. Last night there were fatalities all around, the battle swayed back and forth and better still people worked together.
* Finding a group is much easier and for the first time in ages I am turning requests down.
* I am seeing a lot of rookies coming into the game from all the noob questions in global chat. Thankfully the population is quite mature so its nice to see multiple responses when someone announces they are new.
So 6 out of 10, 10 out of 10. Who freaking cares! There are loads playing it and there is plenty to do so from me its a big 'whatever'.
I thinke this is the longest thread in mmorpg for a longe while. AoC have to be worth somethinge just for that reason. I mean, the amount of people that have interest in this game is just insane. I see more AoC post than WOW post. strange
The game in my estimation has gone up from 5/10 to 6/10 ,yes a solid 6/10
"after the time of dice came the day of mice "
Yes. The fact that this thread is so long must mean AoC is doing very well. Good reasoning.
Don't you think that maybe the 10/10 in the thread title pisses people off and they feel like they need to correct it?
Most people rate AoC 6/10, like it or not.
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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
/checks join date
/checks reality
/throws tin foil hat to the side because its not needed when its this obvious.
Yes. The fact that this thread is so long must mean AoC is doing very well. Good reasoning.
Don't you think that maybe the 10/10 in the thread title pisses people off and they feel like they need to correct it?
Most people rate AoC 6/10, like it or not.
You are aware of that all users have voted AoC to 7.09/10 here on this site?? So if you want to say something on what most people thing you could at least have referred to what most people thing, which would have been above 7/10.
Myself I give AoC a good 8/10. I have no doubt about AoC moving up to a solid 9/10 when DX10 comes around.
Yes. The fact that this thread is so long must mean AoC is doing very well. Good reasoning.
Don't you think that maybe the 10/10 in the thread title pisses people off and they feel like they need to correct it?
Most people rate AoC 6/10, like it or not.
You are aware of that all users have voted AoC to 7.09/10 here on this site?? So if you want to say something on what most people thing you could at least have referred to what most people thing, which would have been above 7/10.
Myself I give AoC a good 8/10. I have no doubt about AoC moving up to a solid 9/10 when DX10 comes around.
First of all I never trust user voting on sites like this. It's so easy to make hundreds of accounts and distort the results. Secondly AoC has 7/10 because many people voted 10/10 or 9/10 first few weeks after the game had launched. If they resetted the number and people voted today, I believe it would be closer to 6/10 or even 5/10 because a lot of people here actually HATE Funcom and would vote 1/10.
Like I said before, most recent review of AoC made by a respectable gaming site was Eurogamer review and they gave AoC 6/10.
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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
Yes. The fact that this thread is so long must mean AoC is doing very well. Good reasoning.
Don't you think that maybe the 10/10 in the thread title pisses people off and they feel like they need to correct it?
Most people rate AoC 6/10, like it or not.
You are aware of that all users have voted AoC to 7.09/10 here on this site?? So if you want to say something on what most people thing you could at least have referred to what most people thing, which would have been above 7/10.
Myself I give AoC a good 8/10. I have no doubt about AoC moving up to a solid 9/10 when DX10 comes around.
First of all I never trust user voting on sites like this. It's so easy to make hundreds of accounts and distort the results. Secondly AoC has 7/10 because many people voted 10/10 or 9/10 first few weeks after the game had launched. If they resetted the number and people voted today, I believe it would be closer to 6/10 or even 5/10 because a lot of people here actually HATE Funcom and would vote 1/10.
Like I said before, most recent review of AoC made by a respectable gaming site was Eurogamer review and they gave AoC 6/10.
Ohh.. hahaha.. so the guys that would vote 1/10 counts while the guys that would vote 10/10 don't. And for your information. The guy that wrote the Eurogamer review was the same guy that vote the MMORPG review. Quite surprising that they both were 6/10.
Finally, userrating for AoC has been as low as 6, but that was several months back. Now it is above 7. Normal people would take that as a sign of improvement, while hopeless haters like yourself, Lumache, would dig up some lame explanation. Take a brake from your hate cruzade.
I'm sure there would be A LOT more 1/10 than 10/10. I've seen tons of people write they will never buy another game from FC and they give AoC 1/10. I've only seen one guy post 10/10 on these forums and he's a known nutjob.
I still believe Eurogamer review to be the best one out there. It's fair and balanced and describes pretty accurately all the issues with AoC.
Sure AoC has improved but it was in such a bad shape to begining with that they need much more time to make it actually fun for longer than 1-2 months.
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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
Didn't funcom brag about selling some 750k boxes at some point conservative estimates give the game some 200k subs still which is a loss of 550k players which equates to well over half it's players leaving which for me says that said reviewer would obviously fall on the side of 550k that quit I personally think a 6/10 is a bit high but that's mainly because reviews are totally opinion based it really does not say anything concrete about the game you love it nice but please stop trying to use "facts" to "prove" why someones dislike of a product is wrong most of the mmo world hates the game I think you should be glad to have found someone reviewing the game at this point that is that nice about the games state because I see it way worse than a 6/10.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
Didn't funcom brag about selling some 750k boxes at some point conservative estimates give the game some 200k subs still which is a loss of 550k players which equates to well over half it's players leaving which for me says that said reviewer would obviously fall on the side of 550k that quit I personally think a 6/10 is a bit high but that's mainly because reviews are totally opinion based it really does not say anything concrete about the game you love it nice but please stop trying to use "facts" to "prove" why someones dislike of a product is wrong most of the mmo world hates the game I think you should be glad to have found someone reviewing the game at this point that is that nice about the games state because I see it way worse than a 6/10.
Hmm.. I think OP try to convey that the current version of AoC is much much better than the AoC we saw the first couple of months. He says the game is 10/10 now, even I do not agree with that, but I think most of us can agree that AoC is up there and that it is just getting so much better by the day. The more interesting thing is how intensely FC seem to work on their game. Patch after patch with awesome material just keep slamming inn over the AoC gaming crowds. I belive FC is moving in the right direction with AoC, and that they also seem to do that at a very high pace. 10/10, NO, but if patch 4.0 wiith DX10 and other stuff hold same quality as patch 3.0, this game will soon start to taste like a 9/10.
How does a 9/10 taste?
For me it tastes like bs, to be honest. I guess it all depends on what you look for in an MMO. If you only look for good graphics then yes, AoC might be 9/10. If you like PvP, gameplay or fun, I would say AoC is 6/10.
I recommend everyone to read the recent Eurogamer re-review. They also gave AoC 6/10.
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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
stupid, if anything gets a 10/10 its perfect and cant be improved.. think before you drink before you post