Originally posted by singsofdeath And what about those of us who like to play with friends from America and live in Europe? And they might have talked about Lag...but how can they -HONESTLY- judge that, having played it on a LAN Network and not on any kind of real MMO Infrastructure?
Lag/Latency is still my biggest worry about Darkfall. I still can't see how they want to adress these issues, but I'm willing to let them surprise me. After all, i will get to test it for free, so I'm not particularly worried.
That, and the completeness of the features and the atmosphere in the community might be a big turnoff. MIGHT, will have to wait and see though.
I don't see how this will be a problem, people play counterstrike, cod4 and other fps games and put up with lag, it is something that is sometimes unavoidable.
If you play with friends in US from Europe you will probably have lag no matter what. Lag is a fact of life in online gaming, as long as it is not abnormally bad in DF then I doubt people will care.
Maybe it would be a good idea for this game to auto kick people with +250 pings to stop warping?
Originally posted by singsofdeath And what about those of us who like to play with friends from America and live in Europe? And they might have talked about Lag...but how can they -HONESTLY- judge that, having played it on a LAN Network and not on any kind of real MMO Infrastructure?
Lag/Latency is still my biggest worry about Darkfall. I still can't see how they want to adress these issues, but I'm willing to let them surprise me. After all, i will get to test it for free, so I'm not particularly worried.
That, and the completeness of the features and the atmosphere in the community might be a big turnoff. MIGHT, will have to wait and see though.
I don't see how this will be a problem, people play counterstrike, cod4 and other fps games and put up with lag, it is something that is sometimes unavoidable. If you play with friends in US from Europe you will probably have lag no matter what. Lag is a fact of life in online gaming, as long as it is not abnormally bad in DF then I doubt people will care.
Please...do not compare Shooters to a MMORPG, particularly not one as huge as Darkfall. Shooters have limited customization, limited areas and even then, if you want to be really successful, you still don't join Servers with more than 100ms Ping and that is an absolute max.
Now, imagine this:
I play with my friend from the US. He has to connect to European servers. We get jumped by someone. We fight. He has a Ping of 300ms I have 60 and so does the attacker. Me and the other guy are sort of on even grounds, but my friend will be totally lost. he won't place a single blow on the enemy, unless he's extremely lucky, much less a spell or a heal on me because whenever he "targets" something, that target is actually already someplace else.
Don't try to downplay this issue. It's a mjor concern and one that they have yet to say anything about except "we have a solution". You said it yourself, lag is a fact of life and lag in a FPS based game = problems.
Originally posted by singsofdeath Please...do not compare Shooters to a MMORPG, particularly not one as huge as Darkfall. Shooters have limited customization, limited areas and even then, if you want to be really successful, you still don't join Servers with more than 100ms Ping and that is an absolute max. Now, imagine this: I play with my friend from the US. He has to connect to European servers. We get jumped by someone. We fight. He has a Ping of 300ms I have 60 and so does the attacker. Me and the other guy are sort of on even grounds, but my friend will be totally lost. he won't place a single blow on the enemy, unless he's extremely lucky, much less a spell or a heal on me because whenever he "targets" something, that target is actually already someplace else. Don't try to downplay this issue. It's a mjor concern and one that they have yet to say anything about except "we have a solution". You said it yourself, lag is a fact of life and lag in a FPS based game = problems.
If your friend is playing from the US he will have lag. So he can either put up with it or play on a US server. You wouldn't play on a cod4 server with 300 ping.
I am sure that "we have a solution" is refering to normal lag, not self inflicted lag caused by people playing on servers on different continants.
Realistically he will not be able to play lag free US - EU. Beta testers have said that they have 150 ms if they are playing from the US.
Originally posted by singsofdeath Please...do not compare Shooters to a MMORPG, particularly not one as huge as Darkfall. Shooters have limited customization, limited areas and even then, if you want to be really successful, you still don't join Servers with more than 100ms Ping and that is an absolute max. Now, imagine this: I play with my friend from the US. He has to connect to European servers. We get jumped by someone. We fight. He has a Ping of 300ms I have 60 and so does the attacker. Me and the other guy are sort of on even grounds, but my friend will be totally lost. he won't place a single blow on the enemy, unless he's extremely lucky, much less a spell or a heal on me because whenever he "targets" something, that target is actually already someplace else. Don't try to downplay this issue. It's a mjor concern and one that they have yet to say anything about except "we have a solution". You said it yourself, lag is a fact of life and lag in a FPS based game = problems.
If your friend is playing from the US he will have lag. So he can either put up with it or play on a US server. You wouldn't play on a cod4 server with 300 ping.
I am sure that "we have a solution" is refering to normal lag, not self inflicted lag caused by people playing on servers on different continants.
Realistically he will not be able to play lag free US - EU. Beta testers have said that they have 150 ms if they are playing from the US.
And that is one group of people that will never play this game. Simple as that. Why would I play a game if I can't play it with my friends?
Originally posted by singsofdeath And that is one group of people that will never play this game. Simple as that. Why would I play a game if I can't play it with my friends?
Maybe you wouldn't, maybe you would find new people to play with.
I personally would not expect to be able to play a fps style game who's server is located on a different continent and have a first class experience.
I suspect that this game will be far more popular with the fps and cross genre gaming crowd than with pure mmorpger's.
Originally posted by singsofdeath And that is one group of people that will never play this game. Simple as that. Why would I play a game if I can't play it with my friends?
Maybe you wouldn't, maybe you would find new people to play with.
I personally would not expect to be able to play a fps style game who's server is located on a different continent and have a first class experience.
I suspect that this game will be far more popular with the fps and cross genre gaming crowd than with pure mmorpger's.
That may be true, actually I think that this is highly possible. However it is a "worry". It IS still an MMO first and foremost, at least from what I gather and cutting off the ability (at least the acceptable ability) for US and EU players to play together is cutting into a lot of people's friend-circles these days.
With the Internet being what it is, there's quite a few people who play with people from all over the world I should think. And these people will basically have no chance to play with their folks as they are used to, not if they want satisfying performance.
Unless Aventurine has some miracle trick that they haven't revealed yet. We shall see, but anyway, that's just my worry there. We will see when it comes out. ^^
So what would be the problem with having a 200 ping, again? That means the server gets your packets in 100 ms, so you're really only 100 ms behind the server. Is that going to be long enough to make it so you can never hit a guy because he's elsewhere? have you read somewehre that there is no prediction etc. and that if you miss a guy on the server but not your client you lose?
So what would be the problem with having a 200 ping, again? That means the server gets your packets in 100 ms, so you're really only 100 ms behind the server. Is that going to be long enough to make it so you can never hit a guy because he's elsewhere? have you read somewehre that there is no prediction etc. and that if you miss a guy on the server but not your client you lose?
Personally I would not play any fps game on a server with 150+ ms, normally I would expect about 40 ms. It is definately noticeable imo even if it is only one tenth of a second.
So what would be the problem with having a 200 ping, again? That means the server gets your packets in 100 ms, so you're really only 100 ms behind the server. Is that going to be long enough to make it so you can never hit a guy because he's elsewhere? have you read somewehre that there is no prediction etc. and that if you miss a guy on the server but not your client you lose?
...It's a problem because it causes you to be at a disadvantage compared to other players. You can wave the word "skill" and "prediction" around all you want, but fact is, people with higher pings will be severely disadvantaged in this game.
I posted this before. A game like WoW/LOTRO etc. can easily be played with 300-500ms ping without you being at a huge disadvantage. The same can not be said about DF. That is a fact that comes with it being FPS, no target-locking.
So what would be the problem with having a 200 ping, again? That means the server gets your packets in 100 ms, so you're really only 100 ms behind the server. Is that going to be long enough to make it so you can never hit a guy because he's elsewhere? have you read somewehre that there is no prediction etc. and that if you miss a guy on the server but not your client you lose?
Personally I would not play any fps game on a server with 150+ ms, normally I would expect about 40 ms. It is definately noticeable imo even if it is only one tenth of a second.
Considering its just a beta server, and absolutely no one is complaining about the ping, I would saw not to wrry. But trolls will look for whatever they can.
So what would be the problem with having a 200 ping, again? That means the server gets your packets in 100 ms, so you're really only 100 ms behind the server. Is that going to be long enough to make it so you can never hit a guy because he's elsewhere? have you read somewehre that there is no prediction etc. and that if you miss a guy on the server but not your client you lose?
Personally I would not play any fps game on a server with 150+ ms, normally I would expect about 40 ms. It is definately noticeable imo even if it is only one tenth of a second.
Considering its just a beta server, and absolutely no one is complaining about the ping, I would saw not to wrry. But trolls will look for whatever they can.
Bwahaha. I'm a Troll again. Geeze people, you are really getting silly. I'm posting a legit worry about the game and all you can say to it is "Troll looking for whatever he can?".
Yeah...no wonder people are grumpy towards DF supporters.
So what would be the problem with having a 200 ping, again? That means the server gets your packets in 100 ms, so you're really only 100 ms behind the server. Is that going to be long enough to make it so you can never hit a guy because he's elsewhere? have you read somewehre that there is no prediction etc. and that if you miss a guy on the server but not your client you lose?
Personally I would not play any fps game on a server with 150+ ms, normally I would expect about 40 ms. It is definately noticeable imo even if it is only one tenth of a second.
Considering its just a beta server, and absolutely no one is complaining about the ping, I would saw not to wrry. But trolls will look for whatever they can.
Bwahaha. I'm a Troll again. Geeze people, you are really getting silly. I'm posting a legit worry about the game and all you can say to it is "Troll looking for whatever he can?".
Yeah...no wonder people are grumpy towards DF supporters.
I wasn't talking specifically about you. But can you really blame the Darkfall community for being troll trigger happy after all the years of people assuming this game was a big scam, based on absolutely nothing. They don't even bother to loook at the evidence, they just hear from someone else "vapors" and join the bandwagon.
Aeroangel, Copy/pasting some long thing doesnt change the fact that you are wrong and are trolling. Basically no one respects you because you still try to state that there is a chance that this game is REAL. Its really getting sad.
It really wouldn't hurt for you to try and read the definition of vaporware, and to read the advice I gave that person. Although I doubt you have the attention span for it judging by your elementary school grammar, and over sized signatures of which either have something from television, big boobs, or something a person such as yourself would find humorous. "Fanboyism" aside you are incredibly dull and should really do something about it.
Whoa! Way to flame, it's obvious you have some issues against Darkfall a game that does not spoon-feed you ala WoW style (I myself like WoW, but after awhile one falls off the treadmill.) and must attempt to belittle people online, which is really sad.
If orignalegg has shown to be dull, you sure have shown to be filled with some kind of malicious angst from what appears to be low-selfesteem because you got such a strong urge to attack other peoples character over a computer game discussion.
Darkfall is not vapourware, it's alleged vapourware, only time will tell.
It's weird how people uses Darkfall fanboy in a derogative manner when themself are fanboys of another game.
It's the height of stupidity really, taking offense or digust towards people who like different games, wear diffrent clothes, listen to music you dislike and so on. Those kind of thoughts does not elevate your happiness it only feeds your stupidity.
I love how people go to a game specific forum (or subforum in this case), and call the people there 'fanboys'. like, how dare they tie themselves to a game and place their faith into it.
There are Darkfall fans in the Darkfall section? Blasphemy!
Not sure how a couple of screen shots and a review by ??? proves that it isn't vaporware.And the review wasn't critical at all so I doubt it's validity. Ifit is ever released (or if it's even real) it could still fail horribly. Either way there's really no point in getting worked up over it until it's out if it ever comes out.
Your obvously hoping so, good for you. You are hoping that a game fails, man I would not want to be you...
keep up the good work!
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this review is some kind of turning point, it's the first time i really belived that DFO will be what we expect it to be, most of my fears are gone.
i still need some 3rd party opinions about naval aspect of the game, which hopefully we will see in next beta report together with some more advenced stuff.
but what i find most amusing is that, that there is still a lof of pure vapoutrolls. does polarization have any life apart from beeing a troll?
Aeroangel, Copy/pasting some long thing doesnt change the fact that you are wrong and are trolling. Basically no one respects you because you still try to state that there is a chance that this game is REAL. Its really getting sad.
It really wouldn't hurt for you to try and read the definition of vaporware, and to read the advice I gave that person. Although I doubt you have the attention span for it judging by your elementary school grammar, and over sized signatures of which either have something from television, big boobs, or something a person such as yourself would find humorous. "Fanboyism" aside you are incredibly dull and should really do something about it.
May I suggest a change in scenery?
there are plenty of forums around that don't have any fanbois in them..
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Until Aventurine changes their official target of a release date yep. Dont want to spread false info....there are already enough people in this forum that do that
Of course if they do change their schedule to end open beta by early December and their official company commitment to launch within the year Aventurine would be guilty of spreading false info.
But naturally, Aventurine have other standards than the rest of the developers.. how obvious..
Polar, this is getting rediculus..
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So what would be the problem with having a 200 ping, again? That means the server gets your packets in 100 ms, so you're really only 100 ms behind the server. Is that going to be long enough to make it so you can never hit a guy because he's elsewhere? have you read somewehre that there is no prediction etc. and that if you miss a guy on the server but not your client you lose?
...It's a problem because it causes you to be at a disadvantage compared to other players. You can wave the word "skill" and "prediction" around all you want, but fact is, people with higher pings will be severely disadvantaged in this game.
I posted this before. A game like WoW/LOTRO etc. can easily be played with 300-500ms ping without you being at a huge disadvantage. The same can not be said about DF. That is a fact that comes with it being FPS, no target-locking.
Why are we arguing this again?
I wish the trolls and haters that call them selfs "sceptics" would learn from you.
Levelheaded and to the point.
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Is anybody else not the least bit wary of this review....or of Darkfall? So much of what we have seen from the Darkfall team in the last few months is EXACTLY what we saw before the Dark and Light release, before the game Mourning (I think thats what it was called) was released a few years back, and multiple other games. It always seemed that everybody hated the game up until a few months/weeks before its supposed release when at that point the developers release JUST enough information to make everybody stop and think "Hey, maybe this game is actually ready". This "review" doesnt seem the least bit "shilly" to anybody? I mean its only complaints, if they could be called complaints, is that the control system and interface system are a little to complex but the author gets over those problems pretty quickly. This review just seems totally fishy. This game has been in development since what, pre-2001 and all of a sudden in the past few weeks the dev team has suddenly got it? They have had supposed betas, release dates, movies, dev chats, month after month, year after year, all of which promised some kind of great progress and all of which failed to produce squat. Release dates came and went, time and again. Beta dates came and went time and again. Even recent beta dates seemed fishy with proclamations of beta starting yet NOBODY HAS LEAKED ANY INFORMATION except for a few reviews from "official people". When was the last time this happened. When was the last time that such a controversial game had a "beta" that admitted actual people but everybody was true to their word on the NDA and didn't leak one bit of information? I have never, ever seen that happen. This seems exactly like what DnL and Mourning did. They let in a a few "beta testers", released beta "reviews" that were glowing reviews of the game, and then "released" the game, charging people money for it, only to have them log in and the game is a piece of shit with no quests, NPC's, lacking graphics, and only 5% of the promised features. Hopefully I am wrong and fans of the game are right, but it just seems like everything that has happened is a repeat of past game releases.
Damn, dude... don't use brains and common sense to shatter our fantasies...
Saying Darkfall reminds of DnL is wrong, if you were following DnL during the development you should know what I'm talking about.
______________________________ The Sceptics, yes they're special but we've need them to.. I guess. And if they're put more effort MMORPG.com can create a 'Team Sceptic' and send them to the Special Olympus.
What we see here is a chain of verifications and confirmations .. Tasos Dev journals, the game play vid, Athens vid, the Beta quotes, The press (p)review all fits together ...
If it would be another company no one would question the legitimity of this at this point..
So please stop do this , so we can move to talks about Feature list..like the amazing possibility of sandbox Naval Walfare not seen in any MMO today ..
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Tasos called this a review, the people who wrote it call it a review. This is what they showed them 1 month from launch, this is what they showed Asp and Yellow beard. This is Darkfall.
Tasos called this a review, the people who wrote it call it a review. This is what they showed them 1 month from launch, this is what they showed Asp and Yellow beard. This is Darkfall.
I think its just wishful thinking and damage control to keep declaring this is not their full review of Darkfall beta.
Tasos calls this “MMORPG Italia Review”
MMORPG Italia calls this “Darkfall Online: Beta Review”
Tasos said :
“We have not lifted the NDA, we have only allowed them access for their review, but not to answer questions after this is out.”
So they are bound by NDA to reveal no more information after this access for this “review“, I think this is it, that’s all we are getting.
I would be happy to be proven incorrect if anyone can show that MMORPG Italia have stated otherwise.
Tasos update start with the sentence :
"We have allowed 2 journalists from MMORPG Italia to do a preview of Darkfall"..
So here you have a new word you can speculate on now
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Why MMORPG Italia? Am I missing something? Is Tasos Italian, but living in Greece or something? Or are these Italian guys Greek living in Italy and working at MMORPG Italia? What's the connection? In otherwords, why not MMORPG Greece, France, England, or Germany?
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I don't see how this will be a problem, people play counterstrike, cod4 and other fps games and put up with lag, it is something that is sometimes unavoidable.
If you play with friends in US from Europe you will probably have lag no matter what. Lag is a fact of life in online gaming, as long as it is not abnormally bad in DF then I doubt people will care.
Maybe it would be a good idea for this game to auto kick people with +250 pings to stop warping?
I don't see how this will be a problem, people play counterstrike, cod4 and other fps games and put up with lag, it is something that is sometimes unavoidable. If you play with friends in US from Europe you will probably have lag no matter what. Lag is a fact of life in online gaming, as long as it is not abnormally bad in DF then I doubt people will care.
Please...do not compare Shooters to a MMORPG, particularly not one as huge as Darkfall. Shooters have limited customization, limited areas and even then, if you want to be really successful, you still don't join Servers with more than 100ms Ping and that is an absolute max.
Now, imagine this:
I play with my friend from the US. He has to connect to European servers. We get jumped by someone. We fight. He has a Ping of 300ms I have 60 and so does the attacker. Me and the other guy are sort of on even grounds, but my friend will be totally lost. he won't place a single blow on the enemy, unless he's extremely lucky, much less a spell or a heal on me because whenever he "targets" something, that target is actually already someplace else.
Don't try to downplay this issue. It's a mjor concern and one that they have yet to say anything about except "we have a solution". You said it yourself, lag is a fact of life and lag in a FPS based game = problems.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
If your friend is playing from the US he will have lag. So he can either put up with it or play on a US server. You wouldn't play on a cod4 server with 300 ping.
I am sure that "we have a solution" is refering to normal lag, not self inflicted lag caused by people playing on servers on different continants.
Realistically he will not be able to play lag free US - EU. Beta testers have said that they have 150 ms if they are playing from the US.
If your friend is playing from the US he will have lag. So he can either put up with it or play on a US server. You wouldn't play on a cod4 server with 300 ping.
I am sure that "we have a solution" is refering to normal lag, not self inflicted lag caused by people playing on servers on different continants.
Realistically he will not be able to play lag free US - EU. Beta testers have said that they have 150 ms if they are playing from the US.
And that is one group of people that will never play this game. Simple as that. Why would I play a game if I can't play it with my friends?
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
Maybe you wouldn't, maybe you would find new people to play with.
I personally would not expect to be able to play a fps style game who's server is located on a different continent and have a first class experience.
I suspect that this game will be far more popular with the fps and cross genre gaming crowd than with pure mmorpger's.
Maybe you wouldn't, maybe you would find new people to play with.
I personally would not expect to be able to play a fps style game who's server is located on a different continent and have a first class experience.
I suspect that this game will be far more popular with the fps and cross genre gaming crowd than with pure mmorpger's.
That may be true, actually I think that this is highly possible. However it is a "worry". It IS still an MMO first and foremost, at least from what I gather and cutting off the ability (at least the acceptable ability) for US and EU players to play together is cutting into a lot of people's friend-circles these days.
With the Internet being what it is, there's quite a few people who play with people from all over the world I should think. And these people will basically have no chance to play with their folks as they are used to, not if they want satisfying performance.
Unless Aventurine has some miracle trick that they haven't revealed yet. We shall see, but anyway, that's just my worry there. We will see when it comes out. ^^
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
So what would be the problem with having a 200 ping, again? That means the server gets your packets in 100 ms, so you're really only 100 ms behind the server. Is that going to be long enough to make it so you can never hit a guy because he's elsewhere? have you read somewehre that there is no prediction etc. and that if you miss a guy on the server but not your client you lose?
...or not.
Personally I would not play any fps game on a server with 150+ ms, normally I would expect about 40 ms. It is definately noticeable imo even if it is only one tenth of a second.
...It's a problem because it causes you to be at a disadvantage compared to other players. You can wave the word "skill" and "prediction" around all you want, but fact is, people with higher pings will be severely disadvantaged in this game.
I posted this before. A game like WoW/LOTRO etc. can easily be played with 300-500ms ping without you being at a huge disadvantage. The same can not be said about DF. That is a fact that comes with it being FPS, no target-locking.
Why are we arguing this again?
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
Personally I would not play any fps game on a server with 150+ ms, normally I would expect about 40 ms. It is definately noticeable imo even if it is only one tenth of a second.
Considering its just a beta server, and absolutely no one is complaining about the ping, I would saw not to wrry. But trolls will look for whatever they can.
Darkfall Travelogues!
Personally I would not play any fps game on a server with 150+ ms, normally I would expect about 40 ms. It is definately noticeable imo even if it is only one tenth of a second.
Considering its just a beta server, and absolutely no one is complaining about the ping, I would saw not to wrry. But trolls will look for whatever they can.
Bwahaha. I'm a Troll again. Geeze people, you are really getting silly. I'm posting a legit worry about the game and all you can say to it is "Troll looking for whatever he can?".
Yeah...no wonder people are grumpy towards DF supporters.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
Personally I would not play any fps game on a server with 150+ ms, normally I would expect about 40 ms. It is definately noticeable imo even if it is only one tenth of a second.
Considering its just a beta server, and absolutely no one is complaining about the ping, I would saw not to wrry. But trolls will look for whatever they can.
Bwahaha. I'm a Troll again. Geeze people, you are really getting silly. I'm posting a legit worry about the game and all you can say to it is "Troll looking for whatever he can?".
Yeah...no wonder people are grumpy towards DF supporters.
I wasn't talking specifically about you. But can you really blame the Darkfall community for being troll trigger happy after all the years of people assuming this game was a big scam, based on absolutely nothing. They don't even bother to loook at the evidence, they just hear from someone else "vapors" and join the bandwagon.
Darkfall Travelogues!
It really wouldn't hurt for you to try and read the definition of vaporware, and to read the advice I gave that person. Although I doubt you have the attention span for it judging by your elementary school grammar, and over sized signatures of which either have something from television, big boobs, or something a person such as yourself would find humorous. "Fanboyism" aside you are incredibly dull and should really do something about it.
Whoa! Way to flame, it's obvious you have some issues against Darkfall a game that does not spoon-feed you ala WoW style (I myself like WoW, but after awhile one falls off the treadmill.) and must attempt to belittle people online, which is really sad.
If orignalegg has shown to be dull, you sure have shown to be filled with some kind of malicious angst from what appears to be low-selfesteem because you got such a strong urge to attack other peoples character over a computer game discussion.
Darkfall is not vapourware, it's alleged vapourware, only time will tell.
It's weird how people uses Darkfall fanboy in a derogative manner when themself are fanboys of another game.
It's the height of stupidity really, taking offense or digust towards people who like different games, wear diffrent clothes, listen to music you dislike and so on. Those kind of thoughts does not elevate your happiness it only feeds your stupidity.
Wow well said sir.
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I love how people go to a game specific forum (or subforum in this case), and call the people there 'fanboys'. like, how dare they tie themselves to a game and place their faith into it.
There are Darkfall fans in the Darkfall section? Blasphemy!
Your obvously hoping so, good for you. You are hoping that a game fails, man I would not want to be you...
keep up the good work!
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this review is some kind of turning point, it's the first time i really belived that DFO will be what we expect it to be, most of my fears are gone.
i still need some 3rd party opinions about naval aspect of the game, which hopefully we will see in next beta report together with some more advenced stuff.
but what i find most amusing is that, that there is still a lof of pure vapoutrolls. does polarization have any life apart from beeing a troll?
It really wouldn't hurt for you to try and read the definition of vaporware, and to read the advice I gave that person. Although I doubt you have the attention span for it judging by your elementary school grammar, and over sized signatures of which either have something from television, big boobs, or something a person such as yourself would find humorous. "Fanboyism" aside you are incredibly dull and should really do something about it.
May I suggest a change in scenery?
there are plenty of forums around that don't have any fanbois in them..
that way --->
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Of course if they do change their schedule to end open beta by early December and their official company commitment to launch within the year Aventurine would be guilty of spreading false info.
But naturally, Aventurine have other standards than the rest of the developers.. how obvious..
Polar, this is getting rediculus..
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I have nothing clever to say.
...It's a problem because it causes you to be at a disadvantage compared to other players. You can wave the word "skill" and "prediction" around all you want, but fact is, people with higher pings will be severely disadvantaged in this game.
I posted this before. A game like WoW/LOTRO etc. can easily be played with 300-500ms ping without you being at a huge disadvantage. The same can not be said about DF. That is a fact that comes with it being FPS, no target-locking.
Why are we arguing this again?
I wish the trolls and haters that call them selfs "sceptics" would learn from you.
Levelheaded and to the point.
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I have nothing clever to say.
Damn, dude... don't use brains and common sense to shatter our fantasies...
Saying Darkfall reminds of DnL is wrong, if you were following DnL during the development you should know what I'm talking about.
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The Sceptics, yes they're special but we've need them to.. I guess.
And if they're put more effort MMORPG.com can create a 'Team Sceptic'
and send them to the Special Olympus.
What we see here is a chain of verifications and confirmations .. Tasos Dev journals, the game play vid, Athens vid, the Beta quotes, The press (p)review all fits together ...
If it would be another company no one would question the legitimity of this at this point..
So please stop do this , so we can move to talks about Feature list..like the amazing possibility of sandbox Naval Walfare not seen in any MMO today ..
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The people who wrote it call it a PREview
No they don’t.
http://www.mmorpgitalia.it/forum/f821/darkfall-online-beta-review-212919/
I think its just wishful thinking and damage control to keep declaring this is not their full review of Darkfall beta.
Tasos calls this “MMORPG Italia Review”
MMORPG Italia calls this “Darkfall Online: Beta Review”
Tasos said :
“We have not lifted the NDA, we have only allowed them access for their review, but not to answer questions after this is out.”
So they are bound by NDA to reveal no more information after this access for this “review“, I think this is it, that’s all we are getting.
I would be happy to be proven incorrect if anyone can show that MMORPG Italia have stated otherwise.
The people who wrote it call it a PREview
No they don’t.
http://www.mmorpgitalia.it/forum/f821/darkfall-online-beta-review-212919/
I think its just wishful thinking and damage control to keep declaring this is not their full review of Darkfall beta.
Tasos calls this “MMORPG Italia Review”
MMORPG Italia calls this “Darkfall Online: Beta Review”
Tasos said :
“We have not lifted the NDA, we have only allowed them access for their review, but not to answer questions after this is out.”
So they are bound by NDA to reveal no more information after this access for this “review“, I think this is it, that’s all we are getting.
I would be happy to be proven incorrect if anyone can show that MMORPG Italia have stated otherwise.
Tasos update start with the sentence :
"We have allowed 2 journalists from MMORPG Italia to do a preview of Darkfall"..
So here you have a new word you can speculate on now
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$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Why MMORPG Italia? Am I missing something? Is Tasos Italian, but living in Greece or something? Or are these Italian guys Greek living in Italy and working at MMORPG Italia? What's the connection? In otherwords, why not MMORPG Greece, France, England, or Germany?