The world size is not all that big, just seems that way due to how slow you move. Even with slow movement you can run (without using sprint much at all) across the main land in about an hour.
I'm not sure whether to believe that but if that's true then that is truly lame.
It took me about an hour give or take 10-15 minutes to travel along the dotted line in this pic. I will re-travel it later while timing more closely if anyone is interested.
I would say I only sprinted about 15-20% of that distance.
Oh well that's only going across on a strickly straight line so it doesn't really represent the actual size of the world, of course it is a lot smaller than what was said which I find VERY disappointing but I guess I'll wait to try it myself.
If that line is accurate, you're looking at maybe 3 hours at normal speed to go from the soithwest corner of the map to the northeast corner. Guess Tasos lost 5 hours worth of land somewhere..
he probably meant going circle on shore.
Who, Tasos? Nope, his specific claim was 8 hours from one edge of the map to the other.
Originally posted by SuperCrapThe whole idea of vaporware is that the developers are hyping a product that they cannot deliver, and lying about the status of their product.
Stopped reading right there. If the first sentence of your argument contains an invalid description of a word then your entire argument is pretty much moot. Go learn what the word means then rewrite your wall of text. Or don't. Either way you already got what you wanted, attention... from someone... ANYone...
Thanks for giving this thread your attention, Zerocyde, that's just what I was looking for. Unfortunately, I think you don't know what you are talking about with regards to this subject.
One of the most famous examples of vaporware that has ever been seen to date was the BitBoys company and their supposedly revolutionary graphics cards. They made a lot of wild and dubious claims about these new graphics card technologies they had developed, and how they were going to release a new graphics card that was orders of magnitude more powerful than the offerings of all the other graphics card makers in the world. They got a lot of investments, played the game hyping it for a few years, they had a lot of fan boys drooling and waiting for the "Glaze3D" graphics cards to come out.... Yeah, those cards never did come onto the market, and it's considered one of the classic examples of vaporware. BUT.... they did create a new kind of graphics card, and they sold the technology to some other company(s) at the end of the day.
So was it really "vaporware" if they actually did produce a new graphics technology and working graphics cards? YES, it is one of the most famous examples of vaporware that have ever happened. BitBoys claimed they had developed a revolutionary technology, but actually they didn't have anything special at all. They hyped it to the max, and in the end they pushed the little bit of junk they had out the door and got what money they could for it. That's VAPORWARE. That's how it usually works. What they claimed was bogus, the product they promised did not and could never exist, just like the game that the Darkfall developers promised.
The world size is not all that big, just seems that way due to how slow you move. Even with slow movement you can run (without using sprint much at all) across the main land in about an hour.
I'm not sure whether to believe that but if that's true then that is truly lame.
It took me about an hour give or take 10-15 minutes to travel along the dotted line in this pic. I will re-travel it later while timing more closely if anyone is interested.
I would say I only sprinted about 15-20% of that distance.
Oh well that's only going across on a strickly straight line so it doesn't really represent the actual size of the world, of course it is a lot smaller than what was said which I find VERY disappointing but I guess I'll wait to try it myself.
If that line is accurate, you're looking at maybe 3 hours at normal speed to go from the soithwest corner of the map to the northeast corner. Guess Tasos lost 5 hours worth of land somewhere..
he probably meant going circle on shore.
Who, Tasos? Nope, his specific claim was 8 hours from one edge of the map to the other.
You guys can have your fun trolling, but from being in game this world is just about the perfect size. Hard to explain without running around in it, but if there is one thing they got right, and is leaps and bounds above most of their competition it is the world.
If you would have traveled from the NE tip of Orc lands to the SW corner of Elf land, it would have been a good two hour run. If you start off going from the NE island above Orc land to the SW island below Elf land, it would have been a good 3-4 hours.
As it is, you took the shortest possible route to cross the map.
If you would have traveled from the NE tip of Orc lands to the SW corner of Elf land, it would have been a good two hour run. If you start off going from the NE island above Orc land to the SW island below Elf land, it would have been a good 3-4 hours.
As it is, you took the shortest possible route to cross the map.
Shortest or not he walked what we can see in the map. Where is the "more than 8 hours" Tasos said?
The world size is not all that big, just seems that way due to how slow you move. Even with slow movement you can run (without using sprint much at all) across the main land in about an hour.
I'm not sure whether to believe that but if that's true then that is truly lame.
It took me about an hour give or take 10-15 minutes to travel along the dotted line in this pic. I will re-travel it later while timing more closely if anyone is interested.
I would say I only sprinted about 15-20% of that distance.
that sure is some major BS.... i play the beta and to trawel from alfar land "nagast" in south mainland to the right side of the map, where his dots ends, take around 1 hour, that guy is just one gay troll....
The world size is not all that big, just seems that way due to how slow you move. Even with slow movement you can run (without using sprint much at all) across the main land in about an hour. As for stable client myself and a few others I've talked with cannot open some parts of the UI w/o the game crashing.
The client is ridiculosly stable. The world is huge. These are facts that cannot be spun by a troll.
Oh and the trolls are getting desperate! Victory draws near.
The world size is not all that big, just seems that way due to how slow you move. Even with slow movement you can run (without using sprint much at all) across the main land in about an hour.
I'm not sure whether to believe that but if that's true then that is truly lame.
It took me about an hour give or take 10-15 minutes to travel along the dotted line in this pic. I will re-travel it later while timing more closely if anyone is interested.
I would say I only sprinted about 15-20% of that distance.
that sure is some major BS.... i play the beta and to trawel from alfar land "nagast" in south mainland to the right side of the map, where his dots ends, take around 1 hour, that guy is just one gay troll....
Is that why you are giving the same estimate as he is giving?
Thardin says it took him about an hour, you say it took you around 1 hour. Why are you calling him a gay troll?
Some people are saying Darkfall wasn't vaporware because a game called Darkfall is being released right now. I have to point out that they are incorrect, everything that has been revealed by the Darkfall beta has proven that Darkfall was vaporware all along. Say what? Here is why:
The whole idea of vaporware is that the developers are hyping a product that they cannot deliver, and lying about the status of their product. As we now know, this was true all along with Darkfall, they have been making claims about the status and features of the game for several years, and it is clear now that those claims were not true. The game lacks many of the features that were supposed to make it ground breaking, and is in a non-finished state of development. Many features which supposedly exist are "turned off" for mysterious reasons. Basically, it is a game, but it is not the game that was claimed, it is not and was not at the state of development that was claimed. SO WE KNOW NOW FOR A FACT THAT DARKFALL WAS VAPORWARE.
Ever since anyone mentioned vaporware back in 2003 it has always been claimed by "trolls" that one of the most likely scenarios is the Darkfall devs will eventually release whatever twisted, mangled, broken piece of software they have managed to develop and see how many suckers they can get to pay for it before everyone realizes how little the project has delivered. In fact, this is one of the main endgames that happens with vaporware, essentially it is a bait and switch, you promise a revolutionary and amazing product, then eventually release a mediocre product with little resemblance to what you had promised. The promised amazing product was just vaporware, it doesn't mean there is no product at all, but that the product being promised was never going to materialize into reality.
This is exactly what has happened with Darkfall and why it was vaporware. Aventurine is releasing a game, but it is not the product that was promised, not in the state of development that was claimed, and pretty much every review you can read will tell you this, even many reviews that claim to be fans of the game are warning people it is not the game they were expecting and it has many problems.
So, yes, nearly everything the "trolls" said has been proven true. The speculation that Aventurine weren't even trying to make a game was incorrect, but the fact they were not being honest about the features and state of development of their project is obviously true.
I can sum it all up in a simple to understand image:
What a load of bull. You take trolling to a new level.
Are you a beta tester yourself, Have you played the game , Where is your detailed review of the beta game to support your claim .
And btw which big budgeted Games have come out lately and delivered on what it said , AOC, WAR, POTBS, TR,
If you would have criticized there PR , thats would be so true and acceptable but this simply bashing the game
Last thing thank you for no preordering .it will better my chance of getting it.
The world size is not all that big, just seems that way due to how slow you move. Even with slow movement you can run (without using sprint much at all) across the main land in about an hour.
I'm not sure whether to believe that but if that's true then that is truly lame.
It took me about an hour give or take 10-15 minutes to travel along the dotted line in this pic. I will re-travel it later while timing more closely if anyone is interested.
I would say I only sprinted about 15-20% of that distance.
that sure is some major BS.... i play the beta and to trawel from alfar land "nagast" in south mainland to the right side of the map, where his dots ends, take around 1 hour, that guy is just one gay troll....
Is that why you are giving the same estimate as he is giving?
Thardin says it took him about an hour, you say it took you around 1 hour. Why are you calling him a gay troll?
What is it about Darkfall that was supposed to be so groundbreaking ?
1. Free for all pvp, its been done before but not recently, its ground breaking. CHECK.
2. Full loot. Certainly Ground breaking. CHECK
3. No levels, skill based instead. In todays MMO market, this is ground breaking. CHECK.
4. The ability to craft almost any item in the game. Yup, thats ground breaking. CHECK.
5. To craft boats, steer them and destroy other players boats. Ground Breaking. CHECK.
6. Guild towns and cities. done before, but this could very well be ground breaking. CHECK.
7. Sieging other cities. If done well, this is ground breaking. CHECK
8. FPS style combat in an MMO. Definitetly ground breaking. CHECK.
Keep fidling along on ur last string little trolls, its the only one u got left.
-Darkstar
Good post dark.... These are some of the really good aspects of df... OMG yes there are good aspects of DF... The bad isnt as bad as it may seem, though the bad should be told aswell with just as much passion.
Good post dark.... These are some of the really good aspects of df... OMG yes there are good aspects of DF... The bad isnt as bad as it may seem, though the bad should be told aswell with just as much passion.
I think what we betatesters shuold do is go on a major photoshoot in game. Ha i got a full version of fraps and havent made one screenshot or vid.. mostly cause of the nda but thats not oan issue now...
Darkfall is very beautiful and dark, the night music really sets the mood well. There is nothing like sitting in a tree above a group of faction enemys watching them from the shadows as they pass under you, its exilerating. Then when you unload your arrow and then look around like wtf hit me, and your above them silent in the shadows, waiting for them to turn so you can shoot another...
Scenarios like this are everywhere in darkfall, what most bitch about are really small issues that can be fixed with a patch or three,
Mine being crafting, but i focused on crafting the most... Easily tweeked.
The game is very playable, and runs very well, but needs to be tweeked.
And betatesters havent seen the full game with all the peices added.. tests were focused...
Thats great we get fresh content when and if we buy the game.
Good post dark.... These are some of the really good aspects of df... OMG yes there are good aspects of DF... The bad isnt as bad as it may seem, though the bad should be told aswell with just as much passion.
Good luck with that, im a passionate guy.
-Darkstar
blah, you posted before i finished the above post...Ass lol
Good post dark.... These are some of the really good aspects of df... OMG yes there are good aspects of DF... The bad isnt as bad as it may seem, though the bad should be told aswell with just as much passion.
Good luck with that, im a passionate guy.
-Darkstar
blah, you posted before i finished the above post...Ass lol
Sorry It is tough to take the OP seriously, ok you hate Darkfall I get it but trying to have an intelligent disucssion with someone that calls themselves supercrap and boast about the length of feces is asking too much.
The world size is not all that big, just seems that way due to how slow you move. Even with slow movement you can run (without using sprint much at all) across the main land in about an hour. As for stable client myself and a few others I've talked with cannot open some parts of the UI w/o the game crashing.
Bullshit!
I've done the trip, numerous times. Takes about an hour and 45 minutes running.
I think what concerns me more is that you are able to do this without dying...Where are all the mobs??.....It sounds like they put 10 MB worth of NPCs in a 18 gig world.........I think my biggest concern about Darkfall is that they are counting way too much on players just killing each other 24/7....This gets old pretty fast and you need a solid PVE world also for players to enjoy in the long run.......Also most of the vids I have seen there is nothing but players running from each other...Sorry but that isnt PVP.......
that sure is some major BS.... i play the beta and to trawel from alfar land "nagast" in south mainland to the right side of the map, where his dots ends, take around 1 hour, that guy is just one gay troll....
Is that why you are giving the same estimate as he is giving?
Thardin says it took him about an hour, you say it took you around 1 hour. Why are you calling him a gay troll?
Because he mentioned a path thats half as long ?
-Darkstar
From south mainland to the right side of the mainland is half as long as across the mainland?
Could be true, depends a bit on the obstacles in the way, still goes a bit far to call him a gay troll.
The world size is not all that big, just seems that way due to how slow you move. Even with slow movement you can run (without using sprint much at all) across the main land in about an hour. As for stable client myself and a few others I've talked with cannot open some parts of the UI w/o the game crashing.
Bullshit!
I've done the trip, numerous times. Takes about an hour and 45 minutes running.
I think what concerns me more is that you are able to do this without dying...Where are all the mobs??.....It sounds like they put 10 MB worth of NPCs in a 18 gig world.........I think my biggest concern about Darkfall is that they are counting way too much on players just killing each other 24/7....This gets old pretty fast and you need a solid PVE world also for players to enjoy in the long run.......Also most of the vids I have seen there is nothing but players running from each other...Sorry but that isnt PVP.......
I agree 100%.
This is the reason why WAR is failing - After Lost Vale there are only City Sieges in RVR
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Speak for yourself denshing. And holy fuck. He does look like a firebolg from DAOC.... HAHAHAHA
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I'm not sure whether to believe that but if that's true then that is truly lame.
It took me about an hour give or take 10-15 minutes to travel along the dotted line in this pic. I will re-travel it later while timing more closely if anyone is interested.
I would say I only sprinted about 15-20% of that distance.
Oh well that's only going across on a strickly straight line so it doesn't really represent the actual size of the world, of course it is a lot smaller than what was said which I find VERY disappointing but I guess I'll wait to try it myself.
If that line is accurate, you're looking at maybe 3 hours at normal speed to go from the soithwest corner of the map to the northeast corner. Guess Tasos lost 5 hours worth of land somewhere..
he probably meant going circle on shore.
Who, Tasos? Nope, his specific claim was 8 hours from one edge of the map to the other.
dang i guess u dont get my sarcastic
Kain_Dale
Stopped reading right there. If the first sentence of your argument contains an invalid description of a word then your entire argument is pretty much moot. Go learn what the word means then rewrite your wall of text. Or don't. Either way you already got what you wanted, attention... from someone... ANYone...
Thanks for giving this thread your attention, Zerocyde, that's just what I was looking for. Unfortunately, I think you don't know what you are talking about with regards to this subject.
One of the most famous examples of vaporware that has ever been seen to date was the BitBoys company and their supposedly revolutionary graphics cards. They made a lot of wild and dubious claims about these new graphics card technologies they had developed, and how they were going to release a new graphics card that was orders of magnitude more powerful than the offerings of all the other graphics card makers in the world. They got a lot of investments, played the game hyping it for a few years, they had a lot of fan boys drooling and waiting for the "Glaze3D" graphics cards to come out.... Yeah, those cards never did come onto the market, and it's considered one of the classic examples of vaporware. BUT.... they did create a new kind of graphics card, and they sold the technology to some other company(s) at the end of the day.
So was it really "vaporware" if they actually did produce a new graphics technology and working graphics cards? YES, it is one of the most famous examples of vaporware that have ever happened. BitBoys claimed they had developed a revolutionary technology, but actually they didn't have anything special at all. They hyped it to the max, and in the end they pushed the little bit of junk they had out the door and got what money they could for it. That's VAPORWARE. That's how it usually works. What they claimed was bogus, the product they promised did not and could never exist, just like the game that the Darkfall developers promised.
The one and only.
I'm not sure whether to believe that but if that's true then that is truly lame.
It took me about an hour give or take 10-15 minutes to travel along the dotted line in this pic. I will re-travel it later while timing more closely if anyone is interested.
I would say I only sprinted about 15-20% of that distance.
Oh well that's only going across on a strickly straight line so it doesn't really represent the actual size of the world, of course it is a lot smaller than what was said which I find VERY disappointing but I guess I'll wait to try it myself.
If that line is accurate, you're looking at maybe 3 hours at normal speed to go from the soithwest corner of the map to the northeast corner. Guess Tasos lost 5 hours worth of land somewhere..
he probably meant going circle on shore.
Who, Tasos? Nope, his specific claim was 8 hours from one edge of the map to the other.
dang i guess u dont get my sarcastic
My bad.
You guys can have your fun trolling, but from being in game this world is just about the perfect size. Hard to explain without running around in it, but if there is one thing they got right, and is leaps and bounds above most of their competition it is the world.
Go on what ground breaking features did not make it into launch ??
Lots of mobs? Right, ground breaking... no wait every other MMO has that.
Fog ? Are u kidding me?
Prestige classes ? Sorry, nothing ground breaking there.
What is it about Darkfall that was supposed to be so groundbreaking ?
1. Free for all pvp, its been done before but not recently, its ground breaking. CHECK.
2. Full loot. Certainly Ground breaking. CHECK
3. No levels, skill based instead. In todays MMO market, this is ground breaking. CHECK.
4. The ability to craft almost any item in the game. Yup, thats ground breaking. CHECK.
5. To craft boats, steer them and destroy other players boats. Ground Breaking. CHECK.
6. Guild towns and cities. done before, but this could very well be ground breaking. CHECK.
7. Sieging other cities. If done well, this is ground breaking. CHECK
8. FPS style combat in an MMO. Definitetly ground breaking. CHECK.
Keep fidling along on ur last string little trolls, its the only one u got left.
-Darkstar
The person with the map . . .
If you would have traveled from the NE tip of Orc lands to the SW corner of Elf land, it would have been a good two hour run. If you start off going from the NE island above Orc land to the SW island below Elf land, it would have been a good 3-4 hours.
As it is, you took the shortest possible route to cross the map.
Shortest or not he walked what we can see in the map. Where is the "more than 8 hours" Tasos said?
The OP could easily be summed up by simply looking at the name of the person that posted it.
Yeah, WoW was vaporware to.
I'm not sure whether to believe that but if that's true then that is truly lame.
It took me about an hour give or take 10-15 minutes to travel along the dotted line in this pic. I will re-travel it later while timing more closely if anyone is interested.
I would say I only sprinted about 15-20% of that distance.
that sure is some major BS.... i play the beta and to trawel from alfar land "nagast" in south mainland to the right side of the map, where his dots ends, take around 1 hour, that guy is just one gay troll....
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The client is ridiculosly stable. The world is huge. These are facts that cannot be spun by a troll.
Oh and the trolls are getting desperate! Victory draws near.
I'm not sure whether to believe that but if that's true then that is truly lame.
It took me about an hour give or take 10-15 minutes to travel along the dotted line in this pic. I will re-travel it later while timing more closely if anyone is interested.
I would say I only sprinted about 15-20% of that distance.
that sure is some major BS.... i play the beta and to trawel from alfar land "nagast" in south mainland to the right side of the map, where his dots ends, take around 1 hour, that guy is just one gay troll....
Is that why you are giving the same estimate as he is giving?
Thardin says it took him about an hour, you say it took you around 1 hour. Why are you calling him a gay troll?
What a load of bull. You take trolling to a new level.
Are you a beta tester yourself, Have you played the game , Where is your detailed review of the beta game to support your claim .
And btw which big budgeted Games have come out lately and delivered on what it said , AOC, WAR, POTBS, TR,
If you would have criticized there PR , thats would be so true and acceptable but this simply bashing the game
Last thing thank you for no preordering .it will better my chance of getting it.
darkfall just looks TERRIBLE lol i told all my freinds not to buy this garbage
I'm not sure whether to believe that but if that's true then that is truly lame.
It took me about an hour give or take 10-15 minutes to travel along the dotted line in this pic. I will re-travel it later while timing more closely if anyone is interested.
I would say I only sprinted about 15-20% of that distance.
that sure is some major BS.... i play the beta and to trawel from alfar land "nagast" in south mainland to the right side of the map, where his dots ends, take around 1 hour, that guy is just one gay troll....
Is that why you are giving the same estimate as he is giving?
Thardin says it took him about an hour, you say it took you around 1 hour. Why are you calling him a gay troll?
Because he mentioned a path thats half as long ?
-Darkstar
Go on what ground breaking features did not make it into launch ??
Lots of mobs? Right, ground breaking... no wait every other MMO has that.
Fog ? Are u kidding me?
Prestige classes ? Sorry, nothing ground breaking there.
What is it about Darkfall that was supposed to be so groundbreaking ?
1. Free for all pvp, its been done before but not recently, its ground breaking. CHECK.
2. Full loot. Certainly Ground breaking. CHECK
3. No levels, skill based instead. In todays MMO market, this is ground breaking. CHECK.
4. The ability to craft almost any item in the game. Yup, thats ground breaking. CHECK.
5. To craft boats, steer them and destroy other players boats. Ground Breaking. CHECK.
6. Guild towns and cities. done before, but this could very well be ground breaking. CHECK.
7. Sieging other cities. If done well, this is ground breaking. CHECK
8. FPS style combat in an MMO. Definitetly ground breaking. CHECK.
Keep fidling along on ur last string little trolls, its the only one u got left.
-Darkstar
Good post dark.... These are some of the really good aspects of df... OMG yes there are good aspects of DF... The bad isnt as bad as it may seem, though the bad should be told aswell with just as much passion.
FoE Fist of the Empire
Yes TERRIBLE...
-Darkstar
Good luck with that, im a passionate guy.
-Darkstar
I think what we betatesters shuold do is go on a major photoshoot in game. Ha i got a full version of fraps and havent made one screenshot or vid.. mostly cause of the nda but thats not oan issue now...
Darkfall is very beautiful and dark, the night music really sets the mood well. There is nothing like sitting in a tree above a group of faction enemys watching them from the shadows as they pass under you, its exilerating. Then when you unload your arrow and then look around like wtf hit me, and your above them silent in the shadows, waiting for them to turn so you can shoot another...
Scenarios like this are everywhere in darkfall, what most bitch about are really small issues that can be fixed with a patch or three,
Mine being crafting, but i focused on crafting the most... Easily tweeked.
The game is very playable, and runs very well, but needs to be tweeked.
And betatesters havent seen the full game with all the peices added.. tests were focused...
Thats great we get fresh content when and if we buy the game.
FoE Fist of the Empire
Good luck with that, im a passionate guy.
-Darkstar
blah, you posted before i finished the above post...Ass lol
Should get one of acid lake.
FoE Fist of the Empire
Good luck with that, im a passionate guy.
-Darkstar
blah, you posted before i finished the above post...Ass lol
hehe. Ill see u ingame.
-Darkstar
Sorry It is tough to take the OP seriously, ok you hate Darkfall I get it but trying to have an intelligent disucssion with someone that calls themselves supercrap and boast about the length of feces is asking too much.
Bullshit!
I've done the trip, numerous times. Takes about an hour and 45 minutes running.
I think what concerns me more is that you are able to do this without dying...Where are all the mobs??.....It sounds like they put 10 MB worth of NPCs in a 18 gig world.........I think my biggest concern about Darkfall is that they are counting way too much on players just killing each other 24/7....This gets old pretty fast and you need a solid PVE world also for players to enjoy in the long run.......Also most of the vids I have seen there is nothing but players running from each other...Sorry but that isnt PVP.......
Is that why you are giving the same estimate as he is giving?
Thardin says it took him about an hour, you say it took you around 1 hour. Why are you calling him a gay troll?
Because he mentioned a path thats half as long ?
-Darkstar
From south mainland to the right side of the mainland is half as long as across the mainland?
Could be true, depends a bit on the obstacles in the way, still goes a bit far to call him a gay troll.
Now if he said it took him 10 minutes...
Bullshit!
I've done the trip, numerous times. Takes about an hour and 45 minutes running.
I think what concerns me more is that you are able to do this without dying...Where are all the mobs??.....It sounds like they put 10 MB worth of NPCs in a 18 gig world.........I think my biggest concern about Darkfall is that they are counting way too much on players just killing each other 24/7....This gets old pretty fast and you need a solid PVE world also for players to enjoy in the long run.......Also most of the vids I have seen there is nothing but players running from each other...Sorry but that isnt PVP.......
I agree 100%.
This is the reason why WAR is failing - After Lost Vale there are only City Sieges in RVR