Yes the majority of the conservtive religions would outnumber Waterlilly and most of the rest of us as well... you included I have always found it odd that most people who use religion as an argument don't have the balls to include the laws of Islam in their remarks and only the "turn the other cheek" Christians seem to take all of the beatings. I guess nobody wants a suicide bomber finding out where they live and showing up with a little gift to celebrate their "infidelity". As far as Dynamo112's little... errrm... emote? goes, I thought it was a laughing alligator at first! Thanks for the "<<penis" or I would have been left clueless! (JK!) And see? I didn't faint or anything and the world is still rolling through the cosmos! Wonderful! Just don't teach my kids that until they're at least in highschool
Most don't mention Islamic ideals because they don't seem to influence many outside of their culture. Also, in the Islamic religion, does it stipulate whether you get 70 virgins (or whatever the number is) of the desired sex or is just the luck of the dice?
It's a Jeep thing. . . _______ |___| \_______/ = |||||| = |X| \*........*/ |X| |X|_________|X| You wouldn't understand
How would you feel if your 6 year old kid was looking out the window and you wondered what was so interesting... you go see and lo and behold there's a naked man on your front lawn. Would you call the cops or applaud him for his "artistic expression"?
Here.. lemme "face plam' ya
What is the problem if your 6 old kid is looking to a naked man or a naked woman?
Penises are not mythical objects, everyone should look at them and understand body and sexuality are naturals.
If you think you should call the cops if a kid can see genitals the one with deep moral issues related to genitals and children is you.
Yes nude bodies are related to artistic expression, but what you discribed is just the natural side of life, if you hide genitals and sexuality from children you will damage them, it doesnt matter if it is an artistic expression or if it is natural nudity.
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Well said.
It's a Jeep thing. . . _______ |___| \_______/ = |||||| = |X| \*........*/ |X| |X|_________|X| You wouldn't understand
How would you feel if your 6 year old kid was looking out the window and you wondered what was so interesting... you go see and lo and behold there's a naked man on your front lawn. Would you call the cops or applaud him for his "artistic expression"?
Here.. lemme "face plam' ya
What is the problem if your 6 old kid is looking to a naked man or a naked woman?
Penises are not mythical objects, everyone should look at them and understand body and sexuality are naturals.
If you think you should call the cops if a kid can see genitals the one with deep moral issues related to genitals and children is you.
Yes nude bodies are related to artistic expression, but what you discribed is just the natural side of life, if you hide genitals and sexuality from children you will damage them, it doesnt matter if it is an artistic expression or if it is natural nudity.
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Well said.
Okay... you win... bring on the penises! All marching erect and proudly! Hell just c'mon over naked and we'll throw a "get to know each other" party in the nude complete with ice sculptures of the revered vagina and penises decorating the block! Just don't blame me when we get fire-bombed and shot while we run out of the house! I say we put a head on the Washington Monument so that it more resembles the mighty dingus too! To hell with dignity and morality! Lets just have fun!
Okay... you win... bring on the penises! All marching erect and proudly! Hell just c'mon over naked and we'll throw a "get to know each other" party in the nude complete with ice sculpture of the revered vagine and penises decorating the block! Just don't blame me when we get fire'bombed and shot while we run out of the house! I say we put a head on the Washington Monument so that it more resemble the mighty dingus too! To hell with dignity and morality! Lets just have fun! End of debate.
Sarcasm doesn't fit you, not to mention you have shown us how narrow-minded the general populous is.
It's a Jeep thing. . . _______ |___| \_______/ = |||||| = |X| \*........*/ |X| |X|_________|X| You wouldn't understand
Yes the majority of the conservtive religions would outnumber Waterlilly and most of the rest of us as well... you included I have always found it odd that most people who use religion as an argument don't have the balls to include the laws of Islam in their remarks and only the "turn the other cheek" Christians seem to take all of the beatings. I guess nobody wants a suicide bomber finding out where they live and showing up with a little gift to celebrate their "infidelity". As far as Dynamo112's little... errrm... emote? goes, I thought it was a laughing alligator at first! Thanks for the "<<penis" or I would have been left clueless! (JK!) And see? I didn't faint or anything and the world is still rolling through the cosmos! Wonderful! Just don't teach my kids that until they're at least in highschool
Most don't mention Islamic ideals because they don't seem to influence many outside of their culture. Also, in the Islamic religion, does it stipulate whether you get 70 virgins (or whatever the number is) of the desired sex or is just the luck of the dice?
That's odd, really, seeing that it's the largest religion on the planet.
Okay... you win... bring on the penises! All marching erect and proudly! Hell just c'mon over naked and we'll throw a "get to know each other" party in the nude complete with ice sculpture of the revered vagine and penises decorating the block! Just don't blame me when we get fire'bombed and shot while we run out of the house! I say we put a head on the Washington Monument so that it more resemble the mighty dingus too! To hell with dignity and morality! Lets just have fun! End of debate.
Sarcasm doesn't fit you, not to mention you have shown us how narrow-minded the general populous is.
Ah see? I even agree with you and I'm said to be sarcastic! Now that is narrow minded!
Okay... you win... bring on the penises! All marching erect and proudly! Hell just c'mon over naked and we'll throw a "get to know each other" party in the nude complete with ice sculptures of the revered vagina and penises decorating the block! Just don't blame me when we get fire-bombed and shot while we run out of the house! I say we put a head on the Washington Monument so that it more resembles the mighty dingus too! To hell with dignity and morality! Lets just have fun! End of debate.
I have been in a couple of reunions like that and there was no fire bombs, no one get shot, no one even fought, everyone had a good time and good experiences.
But dont tell me you are comparing a child looking to a genital with a sexual open reunion for open minded adults.
If you belive everyone in a reunion like that or everyone that share the concept of free sexuality has less dignity than you then you really dont know much about life, sorry if it sounded personal.
It seems you really see sexuality as a negative human aspect, something that we must hide, someting that must be controlled by moral rules, something dirty...
Okay... you win... bring on the penises! All marching erect and proudly! Hell just c'mon over naked and we'll throw a "get to know each other" party in the nude complete with ice sculptures of the revered vagina and penises decorating the block! Just don't blame me when we get fire-bombed and shot while we run out of the house! I say we put a head on the Washington Monument so that it more resembles the mighty dingus too! To hell with dignity and morality! Lets just have fun! End of debate.
I have been in a couple of reunions like that and there was no fire bombs, no one get shot, no one even fought, everyone had a good time and good experiences.
But dont tell me you are comparing a child looking to a genital with a sexual open reunion for open minded adults.
If you belive everyone in a reunion like that or everyone that share the concept of free sexuality has less dignity than you then you really dont know much about life, sorry if it sounded personal.
It seems you really see sexuality as a negative human aspect, something that we must hide, someting that must be controlled by moral rules, something dirty...
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LOL once again. Reunion? In your case was it a family reunion? Next you'll be telling me incest is fine too so long as everyone is in consensus being open-minded, free thinking adults. Amazing how you all manage to twist shit out of all proportion to make a point that has nothing to do with the original statement. How does it feel?
Okay... you win... bring on the penises! All marching erect and proudly! Hell just c'mon over naked and we'll throw a "get to know each other" party in the nude complete with ice sculptures of the revered vagina and penises decorating the block! Just don't blame me when we get fire-bombed and shot while we run out of the house! I say we put a head on the Washington Monument so that it more resembles the mighty dingus too! To hell with dignity and morality! Lets just have fun! End of debate.
I have been in a couple of reunions like that and there was no fire bombs, no one get shot, no one even fought, everyone had a good time and good experiences.
But dont tell me you are comparing a child looking to a genital with a sexual open reunion for open minded adults.
If you belive everyone in a reunion like that or everyone that share the concept of free sexuality has less dignity than you then you really dont know much about life, sorry if it sounded personal.
It seems you really see sexuality as a negative human aspect, something that we must hide, someting that must be controlled by moral rules, something dirty...
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LOL once again. Reunion? In your case was it a family reunion? Next you'll be telling me incest is fine too so long as everyone is in consensus being open-minded, free thinking adults. Amazing how you all manage to twist shit out of all proportion to make a point that has nothing to do with the original statement. How does it feel?
Im not twisting anything, you are, you are the one believing after all swinger´s party or liberated reunions there will be killing, bombs, disgrace etc
If you count married people as family, yes, there is and there was families in this kind of reunion.
Incest can seriously damage children, this is why it is not a good thing. If you are talking about adults, as you said "Free Open minded Adults", then incest is their option, the only issue is if they decide to have children.
Usually liberated and sexuality open folks are not related to incest and pedophilia, you should know that, incest and pedophilia are related to repressed people in the same way rape is related to hate and not desire.
Im not making any point, you know life goes beyond your moral rules, your moral rules are NOT the moral rules of everyone.
No one will take your rules from you, but you are in no place to judge who doesnt follow them.
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The fact a child should be able to see a naked human body is not even related to open sexuality, but it is related to the natural human side, a person should be able to decide and to elaborate personal opinion and choices about sexuality, but the natural reality should never be hidden or denied to anyone.
Okay... you win... bring on the penises! All marching erect and proudly! Hell just c'mon over naked and we'll throw a "get to know each other" party in the nude complete with ice sculptures of the revered vagina and penises decorating the block! Just don't blame me when we get fire-bombed and shot while we run out of the house! I say we put a head on the Washington Monument so that it more resembles the mighty dingus too! To hell with dignity and morality! Lets just have fun! End of debate.
I have been in a couple of reunions like that and there was no fire bombs, no one get shot, no one even fought, everyone had a good time and good experiences.
But dont tell me you are comparing a child looking to a genital with a sexual open reunion for open minded adults.
If you belive everyone in a reunion like that or everyone that share the concept of free sexuality has less dignity than you then you really dont know much about life, sorry if it sounded personal.
It seems you really see sexuality as a negative human aspect, something that we must hide, someting that must be controlled by moral rules, something dirty...
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LOL once again. Reunion? In your case was it a family reunion? Next you'll be telling me incest is fine too so long as everyone is in consensus being open-minded, free thinking adults. Amazing how you all manage to twist shit out of all proportion to make a point that has nothing to do with the original statement. How does it feel?
Im not twisting anything, you are, you are the one believing after all swinger´s party or liberated reunions there will be killing, bombs, disgrace etc
If you count married people as family, yes, there is and there was families in this kind of reunion.
Incest can seriously damage children, this is why it is not a good thing. If you are talking about adults, as you said "Free Open minded Adults", then incest is their option, the only issue is if they decide to have children.
Usually liberated and sexuality open folks are not related to incest and pedophilia, you should know that, incest and pedophilia are related to repressed people in the same way rape is related to hate and not desire.
Im not making any point, you know life goes beyond your moral rules, your moral rules are NOT the moral rules of everyone.
No one will take your rules from you, but you are in no place to judge who doesnt follow them.
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I couldn't care less about what you personally consider to be my moral rules. You and those who think it's fine to impose your desires to do what you want, wherever you want and the rest of us just have to "get used to it" or be called petty names and labeled as the ones who are lacking morality are fishing in a dry hole. If the best argument you can make is to turn around and tell me I'm morally bankrupt and it's you who are out banging your sister or the toaster or the neighbors dog all in the name of "sexual freedom" you can bet your ass I won't be standing there waving the flag in your honor.
As far as judging goes... if you come around my home or start hammering my neighbors dog because you think you should have the right to do it if you want to because you're a liberated adult I'll happily see you in handcuffs explaining your perversions to a judge. The laws are the laws and until they change I will hold my opinion that your penis has no business in my world if I don't want it there. Show my kid your dingus and I'll feed it to you.
There. That should do the trick! Ban me and delete the thread. I'd tell you to go fuck yourself but I somehow think that is no longer an offensive term... all things considered. Cyas!
Okay... you win... bring on the penises! All marching erect and proudly! Hell just c'mon over naked and we'll throw a "get to know each other" party in the nude complete with ice sculptures of the revered vagina and penises decorating the block! Just don't blame me when we get fire-bombed and shot while we run out of the house! I say we put a head on the Washington Monument so that it more resembles the mighty dingus too! To hell with dignity and morality! Lets just have fun! End of debate.
I have been in a couple of reunions like that and there was no fire bombs, no one get shot, no one even fought, everyone had a good time and good experiences.
But dont tell me you are comparing a child looking to a genital with a sexual open reunion for open minded adults.
If you belive everyone in a reunion like that or everyone that share the concept of free sexuality has less dignity than you then you really dont know much about life, sorry if it sounded personal.
It seems you really see sexuality as a negative human aspect, something that we must hide, someting that must be controlled by moral rules, something dirty...
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LOL once again. Reunion? In your case was it a family reunion? Next you'll be telling me incest is fine too so long as everyone is in consensus being open-minded, free thinking adults. Amazing how you all manage to twist shit out of all proportion to make a point that has nothing to do with the original statement. How does it feel?
Im not twisting anything, you are, you are the one believing after all swinger´s party or liberated reunions there will be killing, bombs, disgrace etc
If you count married people as family, yes, there is and there was families in this kind of reunion.
Incest can seriously damage children, this is why it is not a good thing. If you are talking about adults, as you said "Free Open minded Adults", then incest is their option, the only issue is if they decide to have children.
Usually liberated and sexuality open folks are not related to incest and pedophilia, you should know that, incest and pedophilia are related to repressed people in the same way rape is related to hate and not desire.
Im not making any point, you know life goes beyond your moral rules, your moral rules are NOT the moral rules of everyone.
No one will take your rules from you, but you are in no place to judge who doesnt follow them.
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I couldn't care less about what you personally consider to be my moral rules. You and those who think it's fine to impose your desires to do what you want, wherever you want and the rest of us just have to "get used to it" or be called petty names and labeled as the ones who are lacking morality are fishing in a dry hole. If the best argument you can make is to turn around and tell me I'm morally bankrupt and it's you who are out banging your sister or the toaster or the neighbors dog all in the name of "sexual freedom" you can bet your ass I won't be standing there waving the flag in your honor.
No you care, you care too much, no one is judging your sexual view, we are agains the fact you want to hide what is natural from children.
You dont have to get used to anything this doesnt affect you, no one with freedom is judging your personal choices you are the one doing it.
You dont understand honor as you showed with the sentences in red.
No one is imposing you anything, we are not talking about a crazy guy showing his body to children, in your example, you used just a random naked body your child could see.
As far as judging goes... if you come around my home or start hammering my neighbors dog because you think you should have the right to do it if you want to because you're a liberated adult I'll happily see you in handcuffs explaining your perversions to a judge. The laws are the laws and until they change I will hold my opinion that your penis has no business in my world if I don't want it there. Show my kid your dingus and I'll feed it to you.
If you dont want to see my penis (this is ridiculous), just close your eyes, but if you will hide from a child that a penis is a natural part of the male body you will damage the kid, this is not only just about you... the rest of what you said is, as I said ridiculous.
A child should be able to see what is real and make his own choices while he/she grow up.
There. That should do the trick! Ban me and delete the thread. I'd tell you to go fuck yourself but I somehow think that is no longer an offensive term... all things considered. Cyas!
I couldn't care less about what you personally consider to be my moral rules. You and those who think it's fine to impose your desires to do what you want, wherever you want and the rest of us just have to "get used to it" or be called petty names and labeled as the ones who are lacking morality are fishing in a dry hole. If the best argument you can make is to turn around and tell me I'm morally bankrupt and it's you who are out banging your sister or the toaster or the neighbors dog all in the name of "sexual freedom" you can bet your ass I won't be standing there waving the flag in your honor.
As far as judging goes... if you come around my home or start hammering my neighbors dog because you think you should have the right to do it if you want to because you're a liberated adult I'll happily see you in handcuffs explaining your perversions to a judge. The laws are the laws and until they change I will hold my opinion that your penis has no business in my world if I don't want it there. Show my kid your dingus and I'll feed it to you. There. That should do the trick! Ban me and delete the thread. I'd tell you to go fuck yourself but I somehow think that is no longer an offensive term... all things considered. Cyas!
Right, I'll agree to the fact that people shouldn't run around and bang the neighbor's dog or wave their penis in front of children, but lets analyze your statement here.
Show my kid your dingus and I'll feed it to you. So I guess ripping off a man's cock and shoving it in his own mouth while he bleeds to death in agony on the ground, probably while your child stands there crying is the suggested method for reaction on your part.
Who's perverse now?
I don't want to hear your, "I was exaggerating." remarks. The mere fact that you can play around and say something like that and have it be accepted in this 'society' is utterly perverse and pathetic.
Here we are debating seeing nudity in a game, let's say a mature game depicting a good story about an innocent man's journey through prison. Like the many movies and the popular show Oz. At one point, a penis or two is shown in a reasonable way to accurately depict the story. You know, that key word "immersion". I for one will not see this and think it's porn or cry to the high heavens that no children should play the game. That's for the parents to decide, as if the kids don't secretly watch their parents mature violent movies that show the real thing, without the 3D representation.
I feel so ashamed of the US. This is always a hot-topic while there is much more important fucking shit to deal with. I mean really, if it bothers you so much, ride the bandwagon prescription drug train to make yourself feel better. You can choose from the many commercial advertisements to find what pill you like best.
Okay... you win... bring on the penises! All marching erect and proudly! Hell just c'mon over naked and we'll throw a "get to know each other" party in the nude complete with ice sculptures of the revered vagina and penises decorating the block! Just don't blame me when we get fire-bombed and shot while we run out of the house! I say we put a head on the Washington Monument so that it more resembles the mighty dingus too! To hell with dignity and morality! Lets just have fun! End of debate.
I have been in a couple of reunions like that and there was no fire bombs, no one get shot, no one even fought, everyone had a good time and good experiences.
But dont tell me you are comparing a child looking to a genital with a sexual open reunion for open minded adults.
If you belive everyone in a reunion like that or everyone that share the concept of free sexuality has less dignity than you then you really dont know much about life, sorry if it sounded personal.
It seems you really see sexuality as a negative human aspect, something that we must hide, someting that must be controlled by moral rules, something dirty...
...
LOL once again. Reunion? In your case was it a family reunion? Next you'll be telling me incest is fine too so long as everyone is in consensus being open-minded, free thinking adults. Amazing how you all manage to twist shit out of all proportion to make a point that has nothing to do with the original statement. How does it feel?
Im not twisting anything, you are, you are the one believing after all swinger´s party or liberated reunions there will be killing, bombs, disgrace etc
If you count married people as family, yes, there is and there was families in this kind of reunion.
Incest can seriously damage children, this is why it is not a good thing. If you are talking about adults, as you said "Free Open minded Adults", then incest is their option, the only issue is if they decide to have children.
Usually liberated and sexuality open folks are not related to incest and pedophilia, you should know that, incest and pedophilia are related to repressed people in the same way rape is related to hate and not desire.
Im not making any point, you know life goes beyond your moral rules, your moral rules are NOT the moral rules of everyone.
No one will take your rules from you, but you are in no place to judge who doesnt follow them.
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I couldn't care less about what you personally consider to be my moral rules. You and those who think it's fine to impose your desires to do what you want, wherever you want and the rest of us just have to "get used to it" or be called petty names and labeled as the ones who are lacking morality are fishing in a dry hole. If the best argument you can make is to turn around and tell me I'm morally bankrupt and it's you who are out banging your sister or the toaster or the neighbors dog all in the name of "sexual freedom" you can bet your ass I won't be standing there waving the flag in your honor.
No you care, you care too much, no one is judging your sexual view, we are agains the fact you want to hide what is natural from children.
You dont have to get used to anything this doesnt affect you, no one with freedom is judging your personal choices you are the one doing it.
You dont understand honor as you showed with the sentences in red.
As far as judging goes... if you come around my home or start hammering my neighbors dog because you think you should have the right to do it if you want to because you're a liberated adult I'll happily see you in handcuffs explaining your perversions to a judge. The laws are the laws and until they change I will hold my opinion that your penis has no business in my world if I don't want it there. Show my kid your dingus and I'll feed it to you.
If you dont want to see my penis (this is ridiculous), just close your eyes, but if you will hide from a child that a penis is a natural part of the male body you will damage the kid, this is not only just about you... the rest of what you said is, as I said ridiculous.
A child should be able to see what is real and make his own choices while he/she grow up.
There. That should do the trick! Ban me and delete the thread. I'd tell you to go fuck yourself but I somehow think that is no longer an offensive term... all things considered. Cyas!
There is no reason for all your hate.
Your oh so gentle reasoning is absurd. My kid knows full well what a penis is you dolt! Who the hell said he doesn't? You? The last freaking meathead to quote me? You present a viscious circle of turning your desires to do what you want into me somehow lacking as a human being and questioning my parental abilities. Personally I don't give a damn who, what or how you wish to behave sexually whether it's perverse or genuinely enacted with love! I don't care! That is not and never was the point of any of this but somehow you fucking liberal, rose-colored glasses wearing nimrods are so caught up in the NEED to show me and the rest of the world your friggin bodies that you're obsessed with it! I don't give two shits what you do or to whom or what so long as you don't ever think you will ever have the right to force me to accept it and watch! Again I say "fuck you"!
As I said you should decide and make your choices about sexuality, I dont care if you belive in religious moral, if you belive in sexual openess (as I do) or anything, but your hate affects everyone, it is dungerous and offensive, stop judging others and try to realize all the destruction you can generate to you, your children and everyone near you with this kind of attitude, Im pretty sure it is not productive to argument with you like that, sorry.
No one is forcing you to watch anything, if you are so tempted to watch, please reevaluate yourself...
You think? This is society personalized. A simple subject about nudity in a game, used moderately to fit a story for mature gamers, for instance. Now turned into one man's hateful conquest in the sake of, his children I presume.
He seems like he's wholeheartedly ready to wage war to attain his mindful status of 'right'. For whom the war ravages, nobody knows, but war there shall be. He throws out "Fuck You", calls names, references violent acts such as cutting a dick off and putting it in the man's throat. Why?
This should all be noted and quoted for truth. Why there is so much disgusting violence in the western world.
This man (I assume man) is raging that he doesn't want his children to see any of this. Well to you sir, I recommend you never bring your attitude or foul-mouth to my children, should I ever have children or near my family for that matter. I'd be forced to call the police on you.
In my opinion, what happened here shows a subject much more important than games, but still related to it, I truly hope they do not delete this conversation.
I'm gonna be honest and reasonable here. If the most devious thing my pre-teen or young teenage son or daughter could do, is to see a penis on a character in a video-game's story, well.. I wouldn't be very concerned, I'd be happy it's the most devious thing my child could do.
Or for instance, if my child were clever enough to get a game without my permission, by means of purchase or theft, then I'm sure seeing some nudity in a game isn't going to phase them, because clearly they're pretty adept in the real-world. I'd be more concerned with their act of mischief and/or theft.
I mean, just being plain honest here people.
However, watching images of war on CNN is okay for children. Well, because you have to show the children the real world so they don't grow up sheltered. However, seeing a penis in a video-game is fucking bad news.
I'm gonna be honest and reasonable here. If the most devious thing my pre-teen or young teenage son or daughter could do, is to see a penis on a character in a video-game's story, well.. I wouldn't be very concerned, I'd be happy it's the most devious thing my child could do.
Or for instance, if my child were clever enough to get a game without my permission, by means of purchase or theft, then I'm sure seeing some nudity in a game isn't going to phase them, because clearly they're pretty adept in the real-world. I'd be more concerned with their act of mischief and/or theft.
I mean, just being plain honest here people.
However, watching images of war on CNN is okay for children. Well, because you have to show the children the real world so they don't grow up sheltered. However, seeing a penis in a video-game is fucking bad news.
what are you going to do when you catch your child watching porn? I can see that being the time to call the family therapist to work out the issues that will cause....
I'm amazed that men like you can be so shallow, thick and slow. There is not a man among you who will care whether I come or go....not one...not one of you
its time for a giant wang to appear in games, 3 CHEERS TO THAT.
no im not gay, i just dont get why people even care this much to post threads about it and poll it.
djeezes christ guys, this is not the 1300 anymore. in a time where teen pregnancies are at an alltime high, i really could not give a flying toss anymore about seeying 1 guy's wang. get over it, and loosen up a bit, its just sex after all.
so get those granny nickers off and lets get Groovaayh ( yes i used the word groovy, luckily my face is not linked to this username so there is no way of social suicide )
I don't care, it's a part of the human body. What is the big deal. { Mod Edit }
So if I gave you the middle finger, you wouldn't care? It's just a part of the human body. What's the big deal, right?
Oh wait, could it be that some things have meanings beyond themselves? The middle finger is a symbol and I doubt you'd like it. Penises are the male sex organ, so it's obviously a symbol for sex, and people take offense to that. Maybe not you, but many people.
Isn't it amazing that there are people who think differently than you in the world?
A penis or vagina is not a symbol for sex, it's not a symbol to be embarresed for.
It's a part of the body, just like your arm, your leg, your head and your torso is.
It does not represent "sex", it does not represent emotions. You make that out of it.
It's just flesh and blood. That's it. Get a grip.
It can be shown in any medical facility and any decent university and no one goes "oooh....a penis"..what the hell is wrong with people.
That's for medical reasons...
We're all Geniuses. Most of us just don't know it.
Sorry I've been wanting to do this while reading the whole thread....
8===D << penis
I do think Waterlilly is being unreasonable. You could say, I"m a Christian but I believe everyone should be naked all the time and have sex all day as long as they are adults. So there, that shows the Christian religion is ok with nudity and sex!
But really, it just shows YOU are ok with it.
For the entire Christian religion, we'd need to ask the leaders of Prostetant and Catholic demonimations. I think WaterLilly would be outnumbered by the Pope, the Biships, Pastors, Preists and so forth.
IMO, those folks have the authority to say what "Christianity" will put up with and what it won't. If you say "I'm a Christian, but I made up all my own rules" you don't speak for anyone but yourself.
Yes the majority of the conservtive religions would outnumber Waterlilly and most of the rest of us as well... you included
I have always found it odd that most people who use religion as an argument don't have the balls to include the laws of Islam in their remarks and only the "turn the other cheek" Christians seem to take all of the beatings. I guess nobody wants a suicide bomber finding out where they live and showing up with a little gift to celebrate their "infidelity".
As far as Dynamo112's little... errrm... emote? goes, I thought it was a laughing alligator at first! Thanks for the "<<penis" or I would have been left clueless! (JK!) And see? I didn't faint or anything and the world is still rolling through the cosmos! Wonderful! Just don't teach my kids that until they're at least in highschool
That's funny because in many cultures the penis is referred to as a laughing alligator.
Double standard? No. As cleavage doesn't mean female penis. Now, if you wanted to say big, strong barrel chested men in MMOs should't exist, then you'd be on to something.
I don't see how you can make the argument that penises should be in games, because the female avatars are in thongs and have big cleavage. There is no nudity, and the men could certainly be scantily clad as is the case in many MMOs.
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Most don't mention Islamic ideals because they don't seem to influence many outside of their culture. Also, in the Islamic religion, does it stipulate whether you get 70 virgins (or whatever the number is) of the desired sex or is just the luck of the dice?
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I have the answer to all but one question... How do I build a time machine so I can go back in time and kick Adam in the balls until I disappear?
Chew on that one!
How would you feel if your 6 year old kid was looking out the window and you wondered what was so interesting... you go see and lo and behold there's a naked man on your front lawn. Would you call the cops or applaud him for his "artistic expression"?
Here.. lemme "face plam' ya
What is the problem if your 6 old kid is looking to a naked man or a naked woman?
Penises are not mythical objects, everyone should look at them and understand body and sexuality are naturals.
If you think you should call the cops if a kid can see genitals the one with deep moral issues related to genitals and children is you.
Yes nude bodies are related to artistic expression, but what you discribed is just the natural side of life, if you hide genitals and sexuality from children you will damage them, it doesnt matter if it is an artistic expression or if it is natural nudity.
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How would you feel if your 6 year old kid was looking out the window and you wondered what was so interesting... you go see and lo and behold there's a naked man on your front lawn. Would you call the cops or applaud him for his "artistic expression"?
Here.. lemme "face plam' ya
What is the problem if your 6 old kid is looking to a naked man or a naked woman?
Penises are not mythical objects, everyone should look at them and understand body and sexuality are naturals.
If you think you should call the cops if a kid can see genitals the one with deep moral issues related to genitals and children is you.
Yes nude bodies are related to artistic expression, but what you discribed is just the natural side of life, if you hide genitals and sexuality from children you will damage them, it doesnt matter if it is an artistic expression or if it is natural nudity.
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Okay... you win... bring on the penises! All marching erect and proudly! Hell just c'mon over naked and we'll throw a "get to know each other" party in the nude complete with ice sculptures of the revered vagina and penises decorating the block! Just don't blame me when we get fire-bombed and shot while we run out of the house! I say we put a head on the Washington Monument so that it more resembles the mighty dingus too! To hell with dignity and morality! Lets just have fun!
End of debate.
Sarcasm doesn't fit you, not to mention you have shown us how narrow-minded the general populous is.
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Most don't mention Islamic ideals because they don't seem to influence many outside of their culture. Also, in the Islamic religion, does it stipulate whether you get 70 virgins (or whatever the number is) of the desired sex or is just the luck of the dice?
That's odd, really, seeing that it's the largest religion on the planet.
Sarcasm doesn't fit you, not to mention you have shown us how narrow-minded the general populous is.
Ah see? I even agree with you and I'm said to be sarcastic! Now that is narrow minded!
I have been in a couple of reunions like that and there was no fire bombs, no one get shot, no one even fought, everyone had a good time and good experiences.
But dont tell me you are comparing a child looking to a genital with a sexual open reunion for open minded adults.
If you belive everyone in a reunion like that or everyone that share the concept of free sexuality has less dignity than you then you really dont know much about life, sorry if it sounded personal.
It seems you really see sexuality as a negative human aspect, something that we must hide, someting that must be controlled by moral rules, something dirty...
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I have been in a couple of reunions like that and there was no fire bombs, no one get shot, no one even fought, everyone had a good time and good experiences.
But dont tell me you are comparing a child looking to a genital with a sexual open reunion for open minded adults.
If you belive everyone in a reunion like that or everyone that share the concept of free sexuality has less dignity than you then you really dont know much about life, sorry if it sounded personal.
It seems you really see sexuality as a negative human aspect, something that we must hide, someting that must be controlled by moral rules, something dirty...
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LOL once again. Reunion? In your case was it a family reunion? Next you'll be telling me incest is fine too so long as everyone is in consensus being open-minded, free thinking adults. Amazing how you all manage to twist shit out of all proportion to make a point that has nothing to do with the original statement. How does it feel?
I have been in a couple of reunions like that and there was no fire bombs, no one get shot, no one even fought, everyone had a good time and good experiences.
But dont tell me you are comparing a child looking to a genital with a sexual open reunion for open minded adults.
If you belive everyone in a reunion like that or everyone that share the concept of free sexuality has less dignity than you then you really dont know much about life, sorry if it sounded personal.
It seems you really see sexuality as a negative human aspect, something that we must hide, someting that must be controlled by moral rules, something dirty...
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LOL once again. Reunion? In your case was it a family reunion? Next you'll be telling me incest is fine too so long as everyone is in consensus being open-minded, free thinking adults. Amazing how you all manage to twist shit out of all proportion to make a point that has nothing to do with the original statement. How does it feel?
Im not twisting anything, you are, you are the one believing after all swinger´s party or liberated reunions there will be killing, bombs, disgrace etc
If you count married people as family, yes, there is and there was families in this kind of reunion.
Incest can seriously damage children, this is why it is not a good thing. If you are talking about adults, as you said "Free Open minded Adults", then incest is their option, the only issue is if they decide to have children.
Usually liberated and sexuality open folks are not related to incest and pedophilia, you should know that, incest and pedophilia are related to repressed people in the same way rape is related to hate and not desire.
Im not making any point, you know life goes beyond your moral rules, your moral rules are NOT the moral rules of everyone.
No one will take your rules from you, but you are in no place to judge who doesnt follow them.
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The fact a child should be able to see a naked human body is not even related to open sexuality, but it is related to the natural human side, a person should be able to decide and to elaborate personal opinion and choices about sexuality, but the natural reality should never be hidden or denied to anyone.
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I have been in a couple of reunions like that and there was no fire bombs, no one get shot, no one even fought, everyone had a good time and good experiences.
But dont tell me you are comparing a child looking to a genital with a sexual open reunion for open minded adults.
If you belive everyone in a reunion like that or everyone that share the concept of free sexuality has less dignity than you then you really dont know much about life, sorry if it sounded personal.
It seems you really see sexuality as a negative human aspect, something that we must hide, someting that must be controlled by moral rules, something dirty...
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LOL once again. Reunion? In your case was it a family reunion? Next you'll be telling me incest is fine too so long as everyone is in consensus being open-minded, free thinking adults. Amazing how you all manage to twist shit out of all proportion to make a point that has nothing to do with the original statement. How does it feel?
Im not twisting anything, you are, you are the one believing after all swinger´s party or liberated reunions there will be killing, bombs, disgrace etc
If you count married people as family, yes, there is and there was families in this kind of reunion.
Incest can seriously damage children, this is why it is not a good thing. If you are talking about adults, as you said "Free Open minded Adults", then incest is their option, the only issue is if they decide to have children.
Usually liberated and sexuality open folks are not related to incest and pedophilia, you should know that, incest and pedophilia are related to repressed people in the same way rape is related to hate and not desire.
Im not making any point, you know life goes beyond your moral rules, your moral rules are NOT the moral rules of everyone.
No one will take your rules from you, but you are in no place to judge who doesnt follow them.
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I couldn't care less about what you personally consider to be my moral rules. You and those who think it's fine to impose your desires to do what you want, wherever you want and the rest of us just have to "get used to it" or be called petty names and labeled as the ones who are lacking morality are fishing in a dry hole. If the best argument you can make is to turn around and tell me I'm morally bankrupt and it's you who are out banging your sister or the toaster or the neighbors dog all in the name of "sexual freedom" you can bet your ass I won't be standing there waving the flag in your honor.
As far as judging goes... if you come around my home or start hammering my neighbors dog because you think you should have the right to do it if you want to because you're a liberated adult I'll happily see you in handcuffs explaining your perversions to a judge. The laws are the laws and until they change I will hold my opinion that your penis has no business in my world if I don't want it there. Show my kid your dingus and I'll feed it to you.
There. That should do the trick! Ban me and delete the thread. I'd tell you to go fuck yourself but I somehow think that is no longer an offensive term... all things considered. Cyas!
I have been in a couple of reunions like that and there was no fire bombs, no one get shot, no one even fought, everyone had a good time and good experiences.
But dont tell me you are comparing a child looking to a genital with a sexual open reunion for open minded adults.
If you belive everyone in a reunion like that or everyone that share the concept of free sexuality has less dignity than you then you really dont know much about life, sorry if it sounded personal.
It seems you really see sexuality as a negative human aspect, something that we must hide, someting that must be controlled by moral rules, something dirty...
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LOL once again. Reunion? In your case was it a family reunion? Next you'll be telling me incest is fine too so long as everyone is in consensus being open-minded, free thinking adults. Amazing how you all manage to twist shit out of all proportion to make a point that has nothing to do with the original statement. How does it feel?
Im not twisting anything, you are, you are the one believing after all swinger´s party or liberated reunions there will be killing, bombs, disgrace etc
If you count married people as family, yes, there is and there was families in this kind of reunion.
Incest can seriously damage children, this is why it is not a good thing. If you are talking about adults, as you said "Free Open minded Adults", then incest is their option, the only issue is if they decide to have children.
Usually liberated and sexuality open folks are not related to incest and pedophilia, you should know that, incest and pedophilia are related to repressed people in the same way rape is related to hate and not desire.
Im not making any point, you know life goes beyond your moral rules, your moral rules are NOT the moral rules of everyone.
No one will take your rules from you, but you are in no place to judge who doesnt follow them.
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I couldn't care less about what you personally consider to be my moral rules. You and those who think it's fine to impose your desires to do what you want, wherever you want and the rest of us just have to "get used to it" or be called petty names and labeled as the ones who are lacking morality are fishing in a dry hole. If the best argument you can make is to turn around and tell me I'm morally bankrupt and it's you who are out banging your sister or the toaster or the neighbors dog all in the name of "sexual freedom" you can bet your ass I won't be standing there waving the flag in your honor.
No you care, you care too much, no one is judging your sexual view, we are agains the fact you want to hide what is natural from children.
You dont have to get used to anything this doesnt affect you, no one with freedom is judging your personal choices you are the one doing it.
You dont understand honor as you showed with the sentences in red.
No one is imposing you anything, we are not talking about a crazy guy showing his body to children, in your example, you used just a random naked body your child could see.
As far as judging goes... if you come around my home or start hammering my neighbors dog because you think you should have the right to do it if you want to because you're a liberated adult I'll happily see you in handcuffs explaining your perversions to a judge. The laws are the laws and until they change I will hold my opinion that your penis has no business in my world if I don't want it there. Show my kid your dingus and I'll feed it to you.
If you dont want to see my penis (this is ridiculous), just close your eyes, but if you will hide from a child that a penis is a natural part of the male body you will damage the kid, this is not only just about you... the rest of what you said is, as I said ridiculous.
A child should be able to see what is real and make his own choices while he/she grow up.
There. That should do the trick! Ban me and delete the thread. I'd tell you to go fuck yourself but I somehow think that is no longer an offensive term... all things considered. Cyas!
There is no reason for all your hate.
Right, I'll agree to the fact that people shouldn't run around and bang the neighbor's dog or wave their penis in front of children, but lets analyze your statement here.
Show my kid your dingus and I'll feed it to you. So I guess ripping off a man's cock and shoving it in his own mouth while he bleeds to death in agony on the ground, probably while your child stands there crying is the suggested method for reaction on your part.
Who's perverse now?
I don't want to hear your, "I was exaggerating." remarks. The mere fact that you can play around and say something like that and have it be accepted in this 'society' is utterly perverse and pathetic.
Here we are debating seeing nudity in a game, let's say a mature game depicting a good story about an innocent man's journey through prison. Like the many movies and the popular show Oz. At one point, a penis or two is shown in a reasonable way to accurately depict the story. You know, that key word "immersion". I for one will not see this and think it's porn or cry to the high heavens that no children should play the game. That's for the parents to decide, as if the kids don't secretly watch their parents mature violent movies that show the real thing, without the 3D representation.
I feel so ashamed of the US. This is always a hot-topic while there is much more important fucking shit to deal with. I mean really, if it bothers you so much, ride the bandwagon prescription drug train to make yourself feel better. You can choose from the many commercial advertisements to find what pill you like best.
I have been in a couple of reunions like that and there was no fire bombs, no one get shot, no one even fought, everyone had a good time and good experiences.
But dont tell me you are comparing a child looking to a genital with a sexual open reunion for open minded adults.
If you belive everyone in a reunion like that or everyone that share the concept of free sexuality has less dignity than you then you really dont know much about life, sorry if it sounded personal.
It seems you really see sexuality as a negative human aspect, something that we must hide, someting that must be controlled by moral rules, something dirty...
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LOL once again. Reunion? In your case was it a family reunion? Next you'll be telling me incest is fine too so long as everyone is in consensus being open-minded, free thinking adults. Amazing how you all manage to twist shit out of all proportion to make a point that has nothing to do with the original statement. How does it feel?
Im not twisting anything, you are, you are the one believing after all swinger´s party or liberated reunions there will be killing, bombs, disgrace etc
If you count married people as family, yes, there is and there was families in this kind of reunion.
Incest can seriously damage children, this is why it is not a good thing. If you are talking about adults, as you said "Free Open minded Adults", then incest is their option, the only issue is if they decide to have children.
Usually liberated and sexuality open folks are not related to incest and pedophilia, you should know that, incest and pedophilia are related to repressed people in the same way rape is related to hate and not desire.
Im not making any point, you know life goes beyond your moral rules, your moral rules are NOT the moral rules of everyone.
No one will take your rules from you, but you are in no place to judge who doesnt follow them.
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I couldn't care less about what you personally consider to be my moral rules. You and those who think it's fine to impose your desires to do what you want, wherever you want and the rest of us just have to "get used to it" or be called petty names and labeled as the ones who are lacking morality are fishing in a dry hole. If the best argument you can make is to turn around and tell me I'm morally bankrupt and it's you who are out banging your sister or the toaster or the neighbors dog all in the name of "sexual freedom" you can bet your ass I won't be standing there waving the flag in your honor.
No you care, you care too much, no one is judging your sexual view, we are agains the fact you want to hide what is natural from children.
You dont have to get used to anything this doesnt affect you, no one with freedom is judging your personal choices you are the one doing it.
You dont understand honor as you showed with the sentences in red.
As far as judging goes... if you come around my home or start hammering my neighbors dog because you think you should have the right to do it if you want to because you're a liberated adult I'll happily see you in handcuffs explaining your perversions to a judge. The laws are the laws and until they change I will hold my opinion that your penis has no business in my world if I don't want it there. Show my kid your dingus and I'll feed it to you.
If you dont want to see my penis (this is ridiculous), just close your eyes, but if you will hide from a child that a penis is a natural part of the male body you will damage the kid, this is not only just about you... the rest of what you said is, as I said ridiculous.
A child should be able to see what is real and make his own choices while he/she grow up.
There. That should do the trick! Ban me and delete the thread. I'd tell you to go fuck yourself but I somehow think that is no longer an offensive term... all things considered. Cyas!
There is no reason for all your hate.
Your oh so gentle reasoning is absurd. My kid knows full well what a penis is you dolt! Who the hell said he doesn't? You? The last freaking meathead to quote me? You present a viscious circle of turning your desires to do what you want into me somehow lacking as a human being and questioning my parental abilities. Personally I don't give a damn who, what or how you wish to behave sexually whether it's perverse or genuinely enacted with love! I don't care! That is not and never was the point of any of this but somehow you fucking liberal, rose-colored glasses wearing nimrods are so caught up in the NEED to show me and the rest of the world your friggin bodies that you're obsessed with it! I don't give two shits what you do or to whom or what so long as you don't ever think you will ever have the right to force me to accept it and watch! Again I say "fuck you"!
Kartuhn
As I said you should decide and make your choices about sexuality, I dont care if you belive in religious moral, if you belive in sexual openess (as I do) or anything, but your hate affects everyone, it is dungerous and offensive, stop judging others and try to realize all the destruction you can generate to you, your children and everyone near you with this kind of attitude, Im pretty sure it is not productive to argument with you like that, sorry.
No one is forcing you to watch anything, if you are so tempted to watch, please reevaluate yourself...
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I think this thread had derailed, somewhat.
You think? This is society personalized. A simple subject about nudity in a game, used moderately to fit a story for mature gamers, for instance. Now turned into one man's hateful conquest in the sake of, his children I presume.
He seems like he's wholeheartedly ready to wage war to attain his mindful status of 'right'. For whom the war ravages, nobody knows, but war there shall be. He throws out "Fuck You", calls names, references violent acts such as cutting a dick off and putting it in the man's throat. Why?
This should all be noted and quoted for truth. Why there is so much disgusting violence in the western world.
This man (I assume man) is raging that he doesn't want his children to see any of this. Well to you sir, I recommend you never bring your attitude or foul-mouth to my children, should I ever have children or near my family for that matter. I'd be forced to call the police on you.
I agree with you Aeroplane22.
In my opinion, what happened here shows a subject much more important than games, but still related to it, I truly hope they do not delete this conversation.
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I'm gonna be honest and reasonable here. If the most devious thing my pre-teen or young teenage son or daughter could do, is to see a penis on a character in a video-game's story, well.. I wouldn't be very concerned, I'd be happy it's the most devious thing my child could do.
Or for instance, if my child were clever enough to get a game without my permission, by means of purchase or theft, then I'm sure seeing some nudity in a game isn't going to phase them, because clearly they're pretty adept in the real-world. I'd be more concerned with their act of mischief and/or theft.
I mean, just being plain honest here people.
However, watching images of war on CNN is okay for children. Well, because you have to show the children the real world so they don't grow up sheltered. However, seeing a penis in a video-game is fucking bad news.
I must agree with you. Good points.
Kartuhn,
what are you going to do when you catch your child watching porn? I can see that being the time to call the family therapist to work out the issues that will cause....
I'm amazed that men like you can be so shallow, thick and slow. There is not a man among you who will care whether I come or go....not one...not one of you
its time for a giant wang to appear in games, 3 CHEERS TO THAT.
no im not gay, i just dont get why people even care this much to post threads about it and poll it.
djeezes christ guys, this is not the 1300 anymore. in a time where teen pregnancies are at an alltime high, i really could not give a flying toss anymore about seeying 1 guy's wang. get over it, and loosen up a bit, its just sex after all.
so get those granny nickers off and lets get Groovaayh ( yes i used the word groovy, luckily my face is not linked to this username so there is no way of social suicide )
So if I gave you the middle finger, you wouldn't care? It's just a part of the human body. What's the big deal, right?
Oh wait, could it be that some things have meanings beyond themselves? The middle finger is a symbol and I doubt you'd like it. Penises are the male sex organ, so it's obviously a symbol for sex, and people take offense to that. Maybe not you, but many people.
Isn't it amazing that there are people who think differently than you in the world?
A penis or vagina is not a symbol for sex, it's not a symbol to be embarresed for.
It's a part of the body, just like your arm, your leg, your head and your torso is.
It does not represent "sex", it does not represent emotions. You make that out of it.
It's just flesh and blood. That's it. Get a grip.
It can be shown in any medical facility and any decent university and no one goes "oooh....a penis"..what the hell is wrong with people.
That's for medical reasons...
We're all Geniuses. Most of us just don't know it.
I do think Waterlilly is being unreasonable. You could say, I"m a Christian but I believe everyone should be naked all the time and have sex all day as long as they are adults. So there, that shows the Christian religion is ok with nudity and sex!
But really, it just shows YOU are ok with it.
For the entire Christian religion, we'd need to ask the leaders of Prostetant and Catholic demonimations. I think WaterLilly would be outnumbered by the Pope, the Biships, Pastors, Preists and so forth.
IMO, those folks have the authority to say what "Christianity" will put up with and what it won't. If you say "I'm a Christian, but I made up all my own rules" you don't speak for anyone but yourself.
Yes the majority of the conservtive religions would outnumber Waterlilly and most of the rest of us as well... you included
I have always found it odd that most people who use religion as an argument don't have the balls to include the laws of Islam in their remarks and only the "turn the other cheek" Christians seem to take all of the beatings. I guess nobody wants a suicide bomber finding out where they live and showing up with a little gift to celebrate their "infidelity".
As far as Dynamo112's little... errrm... emote? goes, I thought it was a laughing alligator at first! Thanks for the "<<penis" or I would have been left clueless! (JK!
) And see? I didn't faint or anything and the world is still rolling through the cosmos! Wonderful! Just don't teach my kids that until they're at least in highschool
That's funny because in many cultures the penis is referred to as a laughing alligator.
Penises are ugly. Cleavage isn't.
Double standard? No. As cleavage doesn't mean female penis. Now, if you wanted to say big, strong barrel chested men in MMOs should't exist, then you'd be on to something.
I don't see how you can make the argument that penises should be in games, because the female avatars are in thongs and have big cleavage. There is no nudity, and the men could certainly be scantily clad as is the case in many MMOs.