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Problem's with Darkfall.....

Sev00Sev00 Member Posts: 29

Low server stability. 2-4 hr queue before you can play during primetime (EU and US).

Lots of bugs, and many/most spells, skills and stats wither don't work at all, or are severely bugged.

Some things are not implemented yet, it is common to see in your combat log things like "s_Mining failed", where "s_Mining" is supposed to be a string that says 'Your mining attempt has'. Similarly, if you mouse over at another player, it will say "s_MahirimMale", for example, instead of proper text.

Audio is very weak, sounds are worse than games from 5-10 years ago, soundtrack very faint and very few tracks. Compared to games like WoW and EVE, DFO's soundtrack downright sucks.

Graphics settings, for the most part, don't work. You can set antialiasing, but it will have no effect, you can modify anisotrophic filtering, again no effect, you can try and override the setting with your video card control panel, but that won't work either. You cannot change field of view, about 100 meters away from you there's impenetrable fog, and nothing you do will change that, even if your PC can easily handle draw distance 20x as much, too bad, so sad, you're out of luck.

There's only one actionbar, with multiple tabs. Unfortunately you can't separate them, or make them horizontal. The rest of the UI sucks just as bad. You have to sheathe/unsheathe weapons for primitive and mundane tasks like looting.

The world is mostly barren, aside from occasional flock of birds of butterflies, you won't see much of a wildlife, except mob spawns, which are tied to geographic area, but those are usually few and far apart. You won't see squirrels, bunnies, snakes, etc. All the things that add to the world and make it feel like a living thing. No weather system either, just day/night cycle and clouds constantly moving up top. Quests are few, far apart, and very few of them are soloable. All quests revolve around "go there, kill/loot that", and locations are marked on the map (easy mode), you do not get cool quests like races or bombing runs, the best I've seen so far is "kill as many trolls as you can in an hour".

Combat is primitive and non-responsive. Not much to say there. Magic is badly unfinished, and at early skill levels, completely non-competitive compared to archery or melee.

City building is tied to specific locations, you can't just build a city wherever you want. Similarly, player house building is tied to clan city building, you can't just build a house on an island somewhere. It is about as restrictive as The Sims, where you get a lot to build in, and that's it. City building is fairly primitive also, you have 3 tiers of a Keep, walls, towers, gates, farm/quarry/etc., plus small huts with NPC triainers. Sieges are largely bugged, and siege tools don't work well.

Clan politics revolve around friend/foe. But basically everyone is against everyone else. Alignment system is a joke. And since you can't effectively siege due to the system being broken, it all boils down to small raids and lots of namecalling.

The game has THE most grind of any other MMO in the past 5 years. If you think grinding honor in AV was bad in WoW, try grinding magic in Darkfall, it is 10 times slower, and just leads to another, just as useless, grind.

Having said that, the game is unusual, because it has full looting, and unlike EVE Online, you usually don't have to fly around for days looking for someone to kill. If you feel like being a criminal, you can find something to kill every 10 mins. And if you find a nice clan of like-minded people whose company you enjoy, the grind becomes bearable, and even the most boring PvE has potential for fun

I dont hate the game Really I dont.But Seriously if these problems get fixed I'll Try it in a heartbeat. If any of these problems have been Fixed Please  Let me know.

 

I'm ready to get my Head chewed off

I posted this on the darkfall forums the first month the game was out.

It's outdated and i wanna see how the Games Improved

 

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Comments

  • sanders01sanders01 Member Posts: 1,357

     Not gonna read the rest of it, but the first setence of Queues is a lie lol. I've never been in a queue, and I was playing on the WEEKEND, logging in and out all day. Noticed no queues what so ever.

    Edit: I do agree with you on the barreness of the world/sound. World is barren, not alot of mobs, no one can dispute this if you've played the game. And the sound... god..... turning down the sound, turns down your comps sound, not just the games sound, so if you want to listen to people on vent on a raft, it wont work that well lol.

    Currently restarting World of Warcraft :/

  • APEistAPEist Member UncommonPosts: 409

     I just read the first sentence and decided not to read the rest.

    There haven't been queue times for almost a month.  There was a week and a half period where queue times were an issue, and that's it.

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  • Einstein-DFEinstein-DF Member Posts: 752

     Complete bullshit, from the first sentence onward...reported for crating yet another account and bsing and spewing lies.

     

    For your info noob the queque issues were fixed months ago. nevermind all the other garbage

     

    Try better next time

  • xsharkeyesxxsharkeyesx Member Posts: 119

    Yeah Queues have been gone for quite some time. The rest is all opinion based, most of the stuff you said might be a problem for you, but not for others. I dont feel like responding to everything though.

     

    The game does need some work, but it is a lot of fun how it is. It just needs a few more big patches to fix some things and add a few features and it should be good to go.

  • Sev00Sev00 Member Posts: 29
    Originally posted by Einstein-DF


     Complete bullshit, from the first sentence onward...reported for crating yet another account and bsing and spewing lies.
     
    For your info noob the queque issues were fixed months ago. nevermind all the other garbage
     
    Try better next time



     

    First Of all When I reviewed this On the original Darkfall Forums It Was Months Ago For one

    And How is it Bs and Spewing lies It's Is Mostly based Fact and Also opinion Dont Like it Dont Read it

    it's that easy But if you find it Easier to sleep At night By Saying that go right ahead

  • xsharkeyesxxsharkeyesx Member Posts: 119

    Saying there are still Queues is a straight up Lie... so it discredits the whole rest of the post. Its simple.

  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221
    Originally posted by Sev00

    Originally posted by Einstein-DF


     Complete bullshit, from the first sentence onward...reported for crating yet another account and bsing and spewing lies.
     
    For your info noob the queque issues were fixed months ago. nevermind all the other garbage
     
    Try better next time



     

    First Of all When I reviewed this On the original Darkfall Forums It Was Months Ago For one

    And How is it Bs and Spewing lies It's Is Mostly based Fact and Also opinion Dont Like it Dont Read it

    it's that easy But if you find it Easier to sleep At night By Saying that go right ahead

    Why are you posting month-old review if its outdated?

    I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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  • Sev00Sev00 Member Posts: 29
    Originally posted by xsharkeyesx


    Saying there are still Queues is a straight up Lie... so it discredits the whole rest of the post. Its simple.

    I never said their are STILL queues

    Now I said When Darkfall Released!

    Their was Queues

    Now please gets your facts straight before you post damnit!

  • Sev00Sev00 Member Posts: 29
    Originally posted by jimmyman99

    Originally posted by Sev00

    Originally posted by Einstein-DF


     Complete bullshit, from the first sentence onward...reported for crating yet another account and bsing and spewing lies.
     
    For your info noob the queque issues were fixed months ago. nevermind all the other garbage
     
    Try better next time



     

    First Of all When I reviewed this On the original Darkfall Forums It Was Months Ago For one

    And How is it Bs and Spewing lies It's Is Mostly based Fact and Also opinion Dont Like it Dont Read it

    it's that easy But if you find it Easier to sleep At night By Saying that go right ahead

    Why are you posting month-old review if its outdated?

    Just to Show Some people The Problems With the Release

     

    And How it Possiblely Improved in this time.

    Because i was Thinking about playing again Thats why I said Correct me if i'm wrong...

  • OrthedosOrthedos Member Posts: 1,771
    Originally posted by Sev00

    Originally posted by xsharkeyesx


    Saying there are still Queues is a straight up Lie... so it discredits the whole rest of the post. Its simple.

    I never said their are STILL queues

    Now I said When Darkfall Released!

    Their was Queues

    Now please gets your facts straight before you post damnit!



     

    Don't worry OP, these fanatics will blame the color of the door, just to try to defend their sacred game DF.

    What you said about DF upon release just about fits most of the dissidents.  Now the point is, does AV show any trace of fixing the issues.  The pace of problem solving will dictate what future this game will be.  I believe only a handful will pay sub for 6 years waiting on the next big patch.

    Indeed there are still ppl playing horizon or SB when those games are due for closure.  The point is, not enough to make it a game worth playing, and worth maintaining from the view of the developer.  They only have 1 server now, will that be their pop cap all the way in the future.  If that is the case, well case closed.

  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221
    Originally posted by Sev00

    Originally posted by jimmyman99

    Originally posted by Sev00

    Originally posted by Einstein-DF


     Complete bullshit, from the first sentence onward...reported for crating yet another account and bsing and spewing lies.
     
    For your info noob the queque issues were fixed months ago. nevermind all the other garbage
     
    Try better next time



     

    First Of all When I reviewed this On the original Darkfall Forums It Was Months Ago For one

    And How is it Bs and Spewing lies It's Is Mostly based Fact and Also opinion Dont Like it Dont Read it

    it's that easy But if you find it Easier to sleep At night By Saying that go right ahead

    Why are you posting month-old review if its outdated?

    Just to Show Some people The Problems With the Release

     

    And How it Possiblely Improved in this time.

    Because i was Thinking about playing again Thats why I said Correct me if i'm wrong...

    well, your first sentence is "Low server stability. 2-4 hr queue before you can play during primetime (EU and US)."  which immediately makes me think you are talking about the present. You need to rephrase it if you want to present it in way you explained above.

     

    I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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  • ch0sen0nech0sen0ne Member UncommonPosts: 87

     OP speaks the truth.

     

    Game is a pain in the a$$ and it's not pretty... 

     

    no need to explain

  • kawlkjakawlkja Member Posts: 352
    Originally posted by jimmyman99

    Originally posted by Sev00

    Originally posted by jimmyman99

    Originally posted by Sev00

    Originally posted by Einstein-DF


     Complete bullshit, from the first sentence onward...reported for crating yet another account and bsing and spewing lies.
     
    For your info noob the queque issues were fixed months ago. nevermind all the other garbage
     
    Try better next time



     

    First Of all When I reviewed this On the original Darkfall Forums It Was Months Ago For one

    And How is it Bs and Spewing lies It's Is Mostly based Fact and Also opinion Dont Like it Dont Read it

    it's that easy But if you find it Easier to sleep At night By Saying that go right ahead

    Why are you posting month-old review if its outdated?

    Just to Show Some people The Problems With the Release

     

    And How it Possiblely Improved in this time.

    Because i was Thinking about playing again Thats why I said Correct me if i'm wrong...

    well, your first sentence is "Low server stability. 2-4 hr queue before you can play during primetime (EU and US)."  which immediately makes me think you are talking about the present. You need to rephrase it if you want to present it in way you explained above.

     

    Eh, it's ok. Most of you Darkfallers read one line and to see if it insults your messiah of a game and attack without reading the entire post.

    "I posted this on the darkfall forums the first month the game was out.

    It's outdated and i wanna see how the Games Improdve"

    Since most of you are lazy. Here is his question (look up darkfallers and read). It was bolded at the end.  He reposted his old review so you guys could go down the list and say "hey this was improved". Imo OP you should find a different game. Darkfalls community is just full of numbskulls.

     

  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    Originally posted by HDomni

    Originally posted by jimmyman99

    Originally posted by Sev00

    Originally posted by jimmyman99

    Originally posted by Sev00

    Originally posted by Einstein-DF


     Complete bullshit, from the first sentence onward...reported for crating yet another account and bsing and spewing lies.
     
    For your info noob the queque issues were fixed months ago. nevermind all the other garbage
     
    Try better next time



     

    First Of all When I reviewed this On the original Darkfall Forums It Was Months Ago For one

    And How is it Bs and Spewing lies It's Is Mostly based Fact and Also opinion Dont Like it Dont Read it

    it's that easy But if you find it Easier to sleep At night By Saying that go right ahead

    Why are you posting month-old review if its outdated?

    Just to Show Some people The Problems With the Release

     

    And How it Possiblely Improved in this time.

    Because i was Thinking about playing again Thats why I said Correct me if i'm wrong...

    well, your first sentence is "Low server stability. 2-4 hr queue before you can play during primetime (EU and US)."  which immediately makes me think you are talking about the present. You need to rephrase it if you want to present it in way you explained above.

     

    Eh, it's ok. Most of you Darkfallers read one line and to see if it insults your messiah of a game and attack without reading the entire post.

    "I posted this on the darkfall forums the first month the game was out.

    It's outdated and i wanna see how the Games Improdve"

    Since most of you are lazy. Here is his question (look up darkfallers and read). It was bolded at the end.  He reposted his old review so you guys could go down the list and say "hey this was improved". Imo OP you should find a different game. Darkfalls community is just full of numbskulls.

     

     

    Its obvious the reposting of this particular post wasn't intended as just a simple state of the game query, it was meant for much more then that.  Rephrasing his post could have assisted in curbing the confusion,   but since the original post probably took countless hours of his time to type up this was more of a half assed way to both attack Darkfall and repost his most beloved of literary works.

    For the majority of honest reviews of MMO's, you'll find they usually take place well after the first month when A) the game gets into the swing of things and B) All the initial launch bugs have been fixed.

    I can easily tell you that Vanguard on launch left much to be desired, yet a few months down the line it became a game worthy of attention.  Perhaps thats too little too late?   As much could at least be said about the OPs reposting of his "review" as it appears at least some of not most of what he posted has either been fixed or is related to personal preference and shouldn't hold sway as not all games are made for everyone.  UI changes, combat feel and the like are preferences that players would have to get used to as part of playing the game I.E. 1st person in MO.

     



  • OrthedosOrthedos Member Posts: 1,771

    What is all wrong with the OP's reposting.  He make it clear at the bottom now, that its a repost.

    As for his intention, that is none of your business.  You are not authorised to call conclusions on that.  If the editorial here allows it, that is it.  So far I see no mod locking.

    The problems at launch means a lot.  It tells how well the developer team executes their moves.  Particularly so for this DF game, where the developer boast the best AI testing and loads of delusive crap talks.  When it comes to the real thing, the launch, everything falls apart.

    If they were that incompetent in development and testing, and has such stupid sense of judgment in launching the crippled duck, its hard to believe they will suddenly gain 200IQ levels and start patching and fixing everything.  Fixing a bug in a live game is harder than fixing a beta.  You for one cannot revise the database structure and old "faulty" records (say of cheaters) with a character wipe.  If they cannot do it well during alpha and beta, I will have less faith they can do it well now, in time for the game to retain and grow.

    Comparing the launch and the current status also shows how far the developer can go in fixing broken parts.  That is the step before enhancement and then the missing features.  Till then, the long list of promise that DF tries to impress us with are all false, lies.  We do have a ffa pvp game, which is nothing impressive.  We do have full loot but that for each gamer, it means something different, not every pvper likes full loot.  Not all of us are bandits in nature.

    If DF is purely a ffa pvp game with full loots, its just a very subpar game.  What marks DF off as something worth attention is the long list of supposingly revolutionary features, but now where are they?

    If full loot pvp is all we want, we already have that years ago in UO.  If we want ffa pvp without full loot, there are countless games that offer a much more complete product.

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Originally posted by maskedweasel


    Its obvious the reposting of this particular post wasn't intended as just a simple state of the game query, it was meant for much more then that.  Rephrasing his post could have assisted in curbing the confusion,   but since the original post probably took countless hours of his time to type up this was more of a half assed way to both attack Darkfall and repost his most beloved of literary works.
    For the majority of honest reviews of MMO's, you'll find they usually take place well after the first month when A) the game gets into the swing of things and B) All the initial launch bugs have been fixed.
    I can easily tell you that Vanguard on launch left much to be desired, yet a few months down the line it became a game worthy of attention.  Perhaps thats too little too late?   As much could at least be said about the OPs reposting of his "review" as it appears at least some of not most of what he posted has either been fixed or is related to personal preference and shouldn't hold sway as not all games are made for everyone.  UI changes, combat feel and the like are preferences that players would have to get used to as part of playing the game I.E. 1st person in MO.

     

    Still: Rule one of forums: Never reply until you read the whole post you are replying to. If it's too long just ignore it or force yourself to read it.

    It's not harder than that, the OP could have made his post better but that not an excuse.

  • OrthedosOrthedos Member Posts: 1,771
    Originally posted by Loke666

    Originally posted by maskedweasel


    Its obvious the reposting of this particular post wasn't intended as just a simple state of the game query, it was meant for much more then that.  Rephrasing his post could have assisted in curbing the confusion,   but since the original post probably took countless hours of his time to type up this was more of a half assed way to both attack Darkfall and repost his most beloved of literary works.
    For the majority of honest reviews of MMO's, you'll find they usually take place well after the first month when A) the game gets into the swing of things and B) All the initial launch bugs have been fixed.
    I can easily tell you that Vanguard on launch left much to be desired, yet a few months down the line it became a game worthy of attention.  Perhaps thats too little too late?   As much could at least be said about the OPs reposting of his "review" as it appears at least some of not most of what he posted has either been fixed or is related to personal preference and shouldn't hold sway as not all games are made for everyone.  UI changes, combat feel and the like are preferences that players would have to get used to as part of playing the game I.E. 1st person in MO.

     

    Still: Rule one of forums: Never reply until you read the whole post you are replying to. If it's too long just ignore it or force yourself to read it.

    It's not harder than that, the OP could have made his post better but that not an excuse.



     

    I agree that the last sentence should be placed at the top, to cut down the chances of "mistakes" by the lazy readers.  That said, its a good read, and makes much more sense than every failed attempts at criticism that follows.

    You are right, the self-imposed critics have only themselves to blame for looking so silly.  They are not defending the game, they make the game community look silly.  "Look guys, these are the kind of short tempered impatient and irrational people you will be playing with, if you spend money and time on DF".

    Thanks to god, not many people will suffer from this, as no one can sub to DF now :P

  • onlinenow225onlinenow225 Member Posts: 381

    From all the replies of rabid DF fans I see another problem that just cropped up with the current game.

     

    The community.  Damn you guys are nuts.  Good luck getting players to play it so it won't be shut down if you guys act like this in game.

  • GaladournGaladourn Member RarePosts: 1,813

    OP: you got everything right, except for the queues, which have improved apparently due to a recent patch.

  • TheHavokTheHavok Member UncommonPosts: 2,423

    OP's post sheds a lot of light about the unfinished nature of the game, and according to other posts, some of these problem have still not been addressed.  But im betting that the hardcore pvp fans that are playing this game will not place high value on some of the bugs and glitches that the OP mentioned.

     

    Also, to those people that didn't read the whole post, but decided to comment nonetheless...well, you kind of put your foot in your mouth there.

  • kawlkjakawlkja Member Posts: 352
    Originally posted by maskedweasel

    Originally posted by HDomni

    Originally posted by jimmyman99

    Originally posted by Sev00

    Originally posted by jimmyman99

    Originally posted by Sev00

    Originally posted by Einstein-DF


     Complete bullshit, from the first sentence onward...reported for crating yet another account and bsing and spewing lies.
     
    For your info noob the queque issues were fixed months ago. nevermind all the other garbage
     
    Try better next time



     

    First Of all When I reviewed this On the original Darkfall Forums It Was Months Ago For one

    And How is it Bs and Spewing lies It's Is Mostly based Fact and Also opinion Dont Like it Dont Read it

    it's that easy But if you find it Easier to sleep At night By Saying that go right ahead

    Why are you posting month-old review if its outdated?

    Just to Show Some people The Problems With the Release

     

    And How it Possiblely Improved in this time.

    Because i was Thinking about playing again Thats why I said Correct me if i'm wrong...

    well, your first sentence is "Low server stability. 2-4 hr queue before you can play during primetime (EU and US)."  which immediately makes me think you are talking about the present. You need to rephrase it if you want to present it in way you explained above.

     

    Eh, it's ok. Most of you Darkfallers read one line and to see if it insults your messiah of a game and attack without reading the entire post.

    "I posted this on the darkfall forums the first month the game was out.

    It's outdated and i wanna see how the Games Improdve"

    Since most of you are lazy. Here is his question (look up darkfallers and read). It was bolded at the end.  He reposted his old review so you guys could go down the list and say "hey this was improved". Imo OP you should find a different game. Darkfalls community is just full of numbskulls.

     

     

    Its obvious the reposting of this particular post wasn't intended as just a simple state of the game query, it was meant for much more then that.  Rephrasing his post could have assisted in curbing the confusion,   but since the original post probably took countless hours of his time to type up this was more of a half assed way to both attack Darkfall and repost his most beloved of literary works.

    Opinion.

    For the majority of honest reviews of MMO's, you'll find they usually take place well after the first month when A) the game gets into the swing of things and B) All the initial launch bugs have been fixed.

    If you can buy the game.

    I can easily tell you that Vanguard on launch left much to be desired, yet a few months down the line it became a game worthy of attention.  Perhaps thats too little too late?

    Opinion. And we are talking about Darkfall not Vanguard.

      As much could at least be said about the OPs reposting of his "review" as it appears at least some of not most of what he posted has either been fixed or is related to personal preference

    Maybe he modified it to because he wanted to be more strait to the point. Maybe he didn't feel like typing out all the problems he had before with the game and decided he will copy and paste and add a few more words.

    and shouldn't hold sway as not all games are made for everyone.

    Fact

     

     UI changes, combat feel and the like are preferences that players would have to get used to as part of playing the game I.E. 1st person in MO.

    Fact

     

    Anyways, I really could care less if he was answered. He has already made up his mind if he is going to play this game or not. I was directing most of this torwards the majority of Darkfall players on this forum. Who read a few lines then turn into raging man children when the the poster puts "Darkefall" and "bad" together. Or any combination with the same meaning.

  • ZodanZodan Member Posts: 564

    OP:

    Most of issues you describe are fixed.

    Lot of QQ for nothing though, so I think you would be better off playing Hello Kitty Online instead.

  • OrthedosOrthedos Member Posts: 1,771
    Originally posted by Galadourn


    OP: you got everything right, except for the queues, which have improved apparently due to a recent patch.



     

    Now this is something worth looking at.

    How can they fix a queue thru a patch?  Expanding hardware?  Removing NPCs and mobs to free more handles?  Or find ways to streamline the old codes?

    I heard that during the beta they deserted the game of NPCs so that they can squeeze in more players.  Now suddenly they remove the queue.  Did they thin out the NPCs further?  Does that end up with a world filled with nothing but a bunch of pvpers bashing each other?

    Another way of looking at it, as the queue vanish, does the population online increase?  What I am thinking is, is it possible that queues vanish b/c people no longer log in?  Should that be the case, queues thins out over, time, and patches were introduced over time.  The 2 just happened together about the same time.

    Well anyway, we do not know much in form of facts.  The idea suggested by galadourn above has yet to be verified.

  • PumpkinheroPumpkinhero Member Posts: 23

    I think everyone here can agree that the OP should have clearily stated his intention when "Reposting" such delicate information.

    Not doing so, threw his topic far from what he intended at the making.

    Guess this can be a lesson to most of us, to make clearer topic so that we can actually talk about what's really important instead of exchanging useless words.

  • OrthedosOrthedos Member Posts: 1,771
    Originally posted by onlinenow225


    From all the replies of rabid DF fans I see another problem that just cropped up with the current game.
     
    The community.  Damn you guys are nuts.  Good luck getting players to play it so it won't be shut down if you guys act like this in game.



     

    Indeed, the active DF community has totally tarnished whatever left of this sinking boat.  With AV delivering a crippled game, and the fans providing an obnoxious game community, it drives away most of the sane pvpers.

    All that is left is watching how DF evolves, a unique case study, and definitely a good academic record of how NOT to do things in marketing and maybe software production.

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