And, yet again, Ladies and Gentlemen, within the first several responses to this thread, we see another fine example of how DF fanatics will - by their own admission - not read an entire post, but stop at the things they don't like (namely, any criticism of the game), and proceed to bash the OP. In this case (like many others) actually *reading* the entire post would have saved some of them from looking like idiots in their responses...
There's a key sentence at the end of the OP's post that puts the entire thing in context:
"I posted this on the darkfall forums the first month the game was out. It's outdated and i wanna see how the Games Improved"
In other words: He's saying that the items he listed were cited issues when the game came out out - and they were, as I remember the discussions about them (e.g. people pointing out issues they encountered while playing, fans immediately calling that person a liar who wasnt' really playing; you all know the routine). He wants to know what's been fixed/improved since then.
But, as usual, after the first item, the rabid fans were too busy falling all over themselves calling him a liar and flaming him to notice that it was an opportunity for them to respond to each point, showing that those items had been fixed.
Good job, DF fans. You've represented your community for what it is.... yet again.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
OP: Most of issues you describe are fixed. Lot of QQ for nothing though, so I think you would be better off playing Hello Kitty Online instead.
By most of the issues, do you mean the queue? Seriously, like the OP, I am very interested in what has actually been fixed in the 2 full months since release and I am pretty sure "most" of them fixed is not accurate, but if it is, please explain.
What OP mostly describes in his post are DESIGN choices made in the game, not bugs and he is portraying them in a way that only his way is the correct way and without changes there are problems while of course all players happily playing DFO don't see it like that.
Queues and stability we're the only gripes I had with the game and they're fixed.
Ok elaborating: What OP mostly describes in his post are DESIGN choices made in the game, not bugs and he is portraying them in a way that only his way is the correct way and without changes there are problems while of course all players happily playing DFO don't see it like that. Queues and stability we're the only gripes I had with the game and they're fixed.
Design choices? :
- bugs, and many/most spells, skills and stats wither don't work at all
- not implemented yet, it is common to see in your combat log things like "s_Mining failed"
- Audio is very weak, sounds are worse than games from 5-10 years ago
- Graphics settings, for the most part, don't work
- There's only one actionbar
- The world is mostly barren
- Combat is primitive and non-responsive.
- Magic is badly unfinished
- you can't just build a city wherever you want
- City building is fairly primitive
- The game has THE most grind of any other MMO in the past 5 years
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Did you read his post at all? You claim all these things listed above are design choices? Only thing you might be able to argue is the world being barren part, and still that is highly opinionated and does not align with DF's website, saying PvE will be very important also.
Ok elaborating: What OP mostly describes in his post are DESIGN choices made in the game, not bugs and he is portraying them in a way that only his way is the correct way and without changes there are problems while of course all players happily playing DFO don't see it like that. Queues and stability we're the only gripes I had with the game and they're fixed.
Design choices? :
- bugs, and many/most spells, skills and stats wither don't work at all
- not implemented yet, it is common to see in your combat log things like "s_Mining failed"
- Audio is very weak, sounds are worse than games from 5-10 years ago
- Graphics settings, for the most part, don't work
- There's only one actionbar
- The world is mostly barren
- Combat is primitive and non-responsive.
- Magic is badly unfinished
- you can't just build a city wherever you want
- City building is fairly primitive
- The game has THE most grind of any other MMO in the past 5 years
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Did you read his post at all? You claim all these things listed above are design choices? Only thing you might be able to argue is the world being barren part, and still that is highly opinionated and does not align with DF's website, saying PvE will be very important also.
Yellow = design choices (or his point of view)
Red = bugs (not corrected)
Green = corrected (or at least I have never encountered)
Ok elaborating: What OP mostly describes in his post are DESIGN choices made in the game, not bugs and he is portraying them in a way that only his way is the correct way and without changes there are problems while of course all players happily playing DFO don't see it like that. Queues and stability we're the only gripes I had with the game and they're fixed.
Design choices? :
- bugs, and many/most spells, skills and stats wither don't work at all
Not true
- not implemented yet, it is common to see in your combat log things like "s_Mining failed"
True
- Audio is very weak, sounds are worse than games from 5-10 years ago
Opinion, mine works pretty well.
- Graphics settings, for the most part, don't work
False
- There's only one actionbar
10 actually
- The world is mostly barren
Opinion, I find mob spawns within a few minutes run of each other.
- Combat is primitive and non-responsive.
Opinion, but in my opinion, incorrect.
- Magic is badly unfinished
Opinion and I disagree
- you can't just build a city wherever you want
True
- City building is fairly primitive
Opinion
- The game has THE most grind of any other MMO in the past 5 years
Not for me, as I do not grind. I simply play.
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Did you read his post at all? You claim all these things listed above are design choices? Only thing you might be able to argue is the world being barren part, and still that is highly opinionated and does not align with DF's website, saying PvE will be very important also.
I spend most of my time PVEing for gold and mats. As a matter of fact, most players probably do the same.
So, in my opinion, PVE is an important part of the game.
Wow, when I took out the queue thing and just put a bit of the information the OP did for most of his complaints he asked about in a structured format, you guys answered so readily! Thanks for the color schemes and responses to the actual thread.
Low server stability. 2-4 hr queue before you can play during primetime (EU and US). Lots of bugs, and many/most spells, skills and stats wither don't work at all, or are severely bugged. Some things are not implemented yet, it is common to see in your combat log things like "s_Mining failed", where "s_Mining" is supposed to be a string that says 'Your mining attempt has'. Similarly, if you mouse over at another player, it will say "s_MahirimMale", for example, instead of proper text. Audio is very weak, sounds are worse than games from 5-10 years ago, soundtrack very faint and very few tracks. Compared to games like WoW and EVE, DFO's soundtrack downright sucks. Graphics settings, for the most part, don't work. You can set antialiasing, but it will have no effect, you can modify anisotrophic filtering, again no effect, you can try and override the setting with your video card control panel, but that won't work either. You cannot change field of view, about 100 meters away from you there's impenetrable fog, and nothing you do will change that, even if your PC can easily handle draw distance 20x as much, too bad, so sad, you're out of luck. There's only one actionbar, with multiple tabs. Unfortunately you can't separate them, or make them horizontal. The rest of the UI sucks just as bad. You have to sheathe/unsheathe weapons for primitive and mundane tasks like looting. The world is mostly barren, aside from occasional flock of birds of butterflies, you won't see much of a wildlife, except mob spawns, which are tied to geographic area, but those are usually few and far apart. You won't see squirrels, bunnies, snakes, etc. All the things that add to the world and make it feel like a living thing. No weather system either, just day/night cycle and clouds constantly moving up top. Quests are few, far apart, and very few of them are soloable. All quests revolve around "go there, kill/loot that", and locations are marked on the map (easy mode), you do not get cool quests like races or bombing runs, the best I've seen so far is "kill as many trolls as you can in an hour". Combat is primitive and non-responsive. Not much to say there. Magic is badly unfinished, and at early skill levels, completely non-competitive compared to archery or melee. City building is tied to specific locations, you can't just build a city wherever you want. Similarly, player house building is tied to clan city building, you can't just build a house on an island somewhere. It is about as restrictive as The Sims, where you get a lot to build in, and that's it. City building is fairly primitive also, you have 3 tiers of a Keep, walls, towers, gates, farm/quarry/etc., plus small huts with NPC triainers. Sieges are largely bugged, and siege tools don't work well. Clan politics revolve around friend/foe. But basically everyone is against everyone else. Alignment system is a joke. And since you can't effectively siege due to the system being broken, it all boils down to small raids and lots of namecalling. The game has THE most grind of any other MMO in the past 5 years. If you think grinding honor in AV was bad in WoW, try grinding magic in Darkfall, it is 10 times slower, and just leads to another, just as useless, grind. Having said that, the game is unusual, because it has full looting, and unlike EVE Online, you usually don't have to fly around for days looking for someone to kill. If you feel like being a criminal, you can find something to kill every 10 mins. And if you find a nice clan of like-minded people whose company you enjoy, the grind becomes bearable, and even the most boring PvE has potential for fun I dont hate the game Really I dont.But Seriously if these problems get fixed I'll Try it in a heartbeat. If any of these problems have been Fixed Please Let me know.
I'm ready to get my Head chewed off I posted this on the darkfall forums the first month the game was out. It's outdated and i wanna see how the Games Improved
Here's another instance of someone who hasn't played the game commenting on all of the issues they have never experienced, and all of the trolls backing him up 100% because their sole purpose in life is to bash a game they have never played and most have no intention of playing.
GF, wasn't close. If you are going to bash :DF, bash something new. All of these complaints have been lodged. And, most are correct except queue times and the combat reponsiveness.
Low server stability. 2-4 hr queue before you can play during primetime (EU and US). Lots of bugs, and many/most spells, skills and stats wither don't work at all, or are severely bugged. Some things are not implemented yet, it is common to see in your combat log things like "s_Mining failed", where "s_Mining" is supposed to be a string that says 'Your mining attempt has'. Similarly, if you mouse over at another player, it will say "s_MahirimMale", for example, instead of proper text. Audio is very weak, sounds are worse than games from 5-10 years ago, soundtrack very faint and very few tracks. Compared to games like WoW and EVE, DFO's soundtrack downright sucks. Graphics settings, for the most part, don't work. You can set antialiasing, but it will have no effect, you can modify anisotrophic filtering, again no effect, you can try and override the setting with your video card control panel, but that won't work either. You cannot change field of view, about 100 meters away from you there's impenetrable fog, and nothing you do will change that, even if your PC can easily handle draw distance 20x as much, too bad, so sad, you're out of luck. There's only one actionbar, with multiple tabs. Unfortunately you can't separate them, or make them horizontal. The rest of the UI sucks just as bad. You have to sheathe/unsheathe weapons for primitive and mundane tasks like looting. The world is mostly barren, aside from occasional flock of birds of butterflies, you won't see much of a wildlife, except mob spawns, which are tied to geographic area, but those are usually few and far apart. You won't see squirrels, bunnies, snakes, etc. All the things that add to the world and make it feel like a living thing. No weather system either, just day/night cycle and clouds constantly moving up top. Quests are few, far apart, and very few of them are soloable. All quests revolve around "go there, kill/loot that", and locations are marked on the map (easy mode), you do not get cool quests like races or bombing runs, the best I've seen so far is "kill as many trolls as you can in an hour". Combat is primitive and non-responsive. Not much to say there. Magic is badly unfinished, and at early skill levels, completely non-competitive compared to archery or melee. City building is tied to specific locations, you can't just build a city wherever you want. Similarly, player house building is tied to clan city building, you can't just build a house on an island somewhere. It is about as restrictive as The Sims, where you get a lot to build in, and that's it. City building is fairly primitive also, you have 3 tiers of a Keep, walls, towers, gates, farm/quarry/etc., plus small huts with NPC triainers. Sieges are largely bugged, and siege tools don't work well. Clan politics revolve around friend/foe. But basically everyone is against everyone else. Alignment system is a joke. And since you can't effectively siege due to the system being broken, it all boils down to small raids and lots of namecalling. The game has THE most grind of any other MMO in the past 5 years. If you think grinding honor in AV was bad in WoW, try grinding magic in Darkfall, it is 10 times slower, and just leads to another, just as useless, grind. Having said that, the game is unusual, because it has full looting, and unlike EVE Online, you usually don't have to fly around for days looking for someone to kill. If you feel like being a criminal, you can find something to kill every 10 mins. And if you find a nice clan of like-minded people whose company you enjoy, the grind becomes bearable, and even the most boring PvE has potential for fun I dont hate the game Really I dont.But Seriously if these problems get fixed I'll Try it in a heartbeat. If any of these problems have been Fixed Please Let me know.
I'm ready to get my Head chewed off I posted this on the darkfall forums the first month the game was out. It's outdated and i wanna see how the Games Improved
Here's another instance of someone who hasn't played the game commenting on all of the issues they have never experienced, and all of the trolls backing him up 100% because their sole purpose in life is to bash a game they have never played and most have no intention of playing.
GF, wasn't close. If you are going to bash :DF, bash something new. All of these complaints have been lodged. And, most are correct except queue times and the combat reponsiveness.
Honestly, I really think someone hacked your account mage. You are becoming as clueless as the rest of the bunch. He said very clearly at the bottom that he heard these were all problems at launch and wonders how things have progressed and what has been fixed. Read the whole thing and then read the thread before bashing the OP 4 pages into the thread. And I can say the same to you, quit telling people the same thing over and over again, that if DF is bad its not their problem and they should leave and stop posting here and move on with their life. Can say the EXACT same thing to you, look in the mirror.
Complete bullshit, from the first sentence onward...reported for crating yet another account and bsing and spewing lies.
For your info noob the queque issues were fixed months ago. nevermind all the other garbage
Try better next time
First Of all When I reviewed this On the original Darkfall Forums It Was Months Ago For one
And How is it Bs and Spewing lies It's Is Mostly based Fact and Also opinion Dont Like it Dont Read it
it's that easy But if you find it Easier to sleep At night By Saying that go right ahead
What you posted was all complete bullsh*t and lies because it was negative about Darkfall.
But everything you mentioned that is complete bullsh*t and lies has been fixed months ago anyway.
If you are wondering how complete bullsh*t and lies can actually be fixed if they are indeed all just complete bullsh*t and lies and not actual genuine problems that can be fixed or have been fixed then you are a troll hater and incapable of understanding,but nonetheless everything is perfect with Darkfall now and always has been and always will be.
Anyone who says anything counter to that is a bull sh*tting liar.
I only read the first sentence of your post of complete bullsh*t and lies anyway, but from that single sentence I could automatically tell everything else you wrote was complete bullsh*t and lies because anyone who says anything negative about Darkfall is always talking complete bullsh*t and lies all the time every time because they are troll haters and Darkfall is perfect.
Low server stability. 2-4 hr queue before you can play during primetime (EU and US). Lots of bugs, and many/most spells, skills and stats wither don't work at all, or are severely bugged. Some things are not implemented yet, it is common to see in your combat log things like "s_Mining failed", where "s_Mining" is supposed to be a string that says 'Your mining attempt has'. Similarly, if you mouse over at another player, it will say "s_MahirimMale", for example, instead of proper text. Audio is very weak, sounds are worse than games from 5-10 years ago, soundtrack very faint and very few tracks. Compared to games like WoW and EVE, DFO's soundtrack downright sucks. Graphics settings, for the most part, don't work. You can set antialiasing, but it will have no effect, you can modify anisotrophic filtering, again no effect, you can try and override the setting with your video card control panel, but that won't work either. You cannot change field of view, about 100 meters away from you there's impenetrable fog, and nothing you do will change that, even if your PC can easily handle draw distance 20x as much, too bad, so sad, you're out of luck. There's only one actionbar, with multiple tabs. Unfortunately you can't separate them, or make them horizontal. The rest of the UI sucks just as bad. You have to sheathe/unsheathe weapons for primitive and mundane tasks like looting. The world is mostly barren, aside from occasional flock of birds of butterflies, you won't see much of a wildlife, except mob spawns, which are tied to geographic area, but those are usually few and far apart. You won't see squirrels, bunnies, snakes, etc. All the things that add to the world and make it feel like a living thing. No weather system either, just day/night cycle and clouds constantly moving up top. Quests are few, far apart, and very few of them are soloable. All quests revolve around "go there, kill/loot that", and locations are marked on the map (easy mode), you do not get cool quests like races or bombing runs, the best I've seen so far is "kill as many trolls as you can in an hour". Combat is primitive and non-responsive. Not much to say there. Magic is badly unfinished, and at early skill levels, completely non-competitive compared to archery or melee. City building is tied to specific locations, you can't just build a city wherever you want. Similarly, player house building is tied to clan city building, you can't just build a house on an island somewhere. It is about as restrictive as The Sims, where you get a lot to build in, and that's it. City building is fairly primitive also, you have 3 tiers of a Keep, walls, towers, gates, farm/quarry/etc., plus small huts with NPC triainers. Sieges are largely bugged, and siege tools don't work well. Clan politics revolve around friend/foe. But basically everyone is against everyone else. Alignment system is a joke. And since you can't effectively siege due to the system being broken, it all boils down to small raids and lots of namecalling. The game has THE most grind of any other MMO in the past 5 years. If you think grinding honor in AV was bad in WoW, try grinding magic in Darkfall, it is 10 times slower, and just leads to another, just as useless, grind. Having said that, the game is unusual, because it has full looting, and unlike EVE Online, you usually don't have to fly around for days looking for someone to kill. If you feel like being a criminal, you can find something to kill every 10 mins. And if you find a nice clan of like-minded people whose company you enjoy, the grind becomes bearable, and even the most boring PvE has potential for fun I dont hate the game Really I dont.But Seriously if these problems get fixed I'll Try it in a heartbeat. If any of these problems have been Fixed Please Let me know.
I'm ready to get my Head chewed off I posted this on the darkfall forums the first month the game was out. It's outdated and i wanna see how the Games Improved
Here's another instance of someone who hasn't played the game commenting on all of the issues they have never experienced, and all of the trolls backing him up 100% because their sole purpose in life is to bash a game they have never played and most have no intention of playing.
GF, wasn't close. If you are going to bash :DF, bash something new. All of these complaints have been lodged. And, most are correct except queue times and the combat reponsiveness.
Honestly, I really think someone hacked your account mage. You are becoming as clueless as the rest of the bunch. He said very clearly at the bottom that he heard these were all problems at launch and wonders how things have progressed and what has been fixed. Read the whole thing and then read the thread before bashing the OP 4 pages into the thread. And I can say the same to you, quit telling people the same thing over and over again, that if DF is bad its not their problem and they should leave and stop posting here and move on with their life. Can say the EXACT same thing to you, look in the mirror.
I wouldn't say as clueless, just fed up.
This board consists of 20 people.
5 who are completely against Darkfall, call anyone who says anything positive about Darkfall a Fanboy.
5 Who are Completely for Darkfall. Call anyone who says anything negative/not positive about Darkfall, a Troll.
5 who support The trolls completely. They don't even read the OP, but only bash the fanboys or non anti-Darkfall people
5 who support the fanboys completely. I'd say they don't read the OP, but it seems the fanboys aren't creating any posts anymore.
It's the same people posting the same negatives about Darkfall. It's one thing to bash a company for the way they run a game, it's another to comment on aspects of a game they do not even play. I keep saying that because I want people to get it. Things that make Darkfall suck (crashing, bugs, lag, ETC) don't affect those who don't play it, or plan on playing it. I don't post all of the negative things about WAR on the WAR forums, do I? I don't post the negative things about EVE on the EVE forums do I? I played WAR, and moved on. I tried playing EVE, but I didn't like it. Do you see the pattern? Hell, all of the games I have negative views about, I've played. How can anyone form a negative view about a game they've never played, then post it as if it were fact.
And I did read the OP. He didn't bother to look up any information himself. He didn't experience any of the issues he's questioning. He didn't phrase his post (that is, until the very end) in such a way that he was wondering.
I heard that when you log into WoW, your computer blows up, and a guy named Vinny comes in.. Have they fixed that yet?
Complete bullshit, from the first sentence onward...reported for crating yet another account and bsing and spewing lies.
For your info noob the queque issues were fixed months ago. nevermind all the other garbage
Try better next time
First Of all When I reviewed this On the original Darkfall Forums It Was Months Ago For one
And How is it Bs and Spewing lies It's Is Mostly based Fact and Also opinion Dont Like it Dont Read it
it's that easy But if you find it Easier to sleep At night By Saying that go right ahead
What you posted was all complete bullsh*t and lies because it was negative about Darkfall.
But everything you mentioned that is complete bullsh*t and lies has been fixed months ago anyway.
If you are wondering how complete bullsh*t and lies can actually be fixed if they are indeed all just complete bullsh*t and lies and not actual genuine problems that can be fixed or have been fixed then you are a troll hater and incapable of understanding,but nonetheless everything is perfect with Darkfall now and always has been and always will be.
Anyone who says anything counter to that is a bull sh*tting liar.
I only read the first sentence of your post of complete bullsh*t and lies anyway, but from that single sentence I could automatically tell everything else you wrote was complete bullsh*t and lies because anyone who says anything negative about Darkfall is always talking complete bullsh*t and lies all the time every time because they are troll haters and Darkfall is perfect.
Bullsh*t...........Don't bullsh*t the bullsh*ter, i know bullsh*t when i see it and this is some major bullsh*t.
What you posted was all complete bullsh*t and lies because it was negative about Darkfall.
But everything you mentioned that is complete bullsh*t and lies has been fixed months ago anyway.
If you are wondering how complete bullsh*t and lies can actually be fixed if they are indeed all just complete bullsh*t and lies and not actual genuine problems that can be fixed or have been fixed then you are a troll hater and incapable of understanding,but nonetheless everything is perfect with Darkfall now and always has been and always will be.
Anyone who says anything counter to that is a bull sh*tting liar.
I only read the first sentence of your post of complete bullsh*t and lies anyway, but from that single sentence I could automatically tell everything else you wrote was complete bullsh*t and lies because anyone who says anything negative about Darkfall is always talking complete bullsh*t and lies all the time every time because they are troll haters and Darkfall is perfect.
This is by far one of the most retarded posts Ive ever seen and exemplifies the general community that plays this game. So it's all complete bs and lies yet they fixed the so called complete bs and lies even though there was no problem? So they fixed the thin air? You also only read one sentance so you do not know the bs and lies he was asking about?
Do some of you people they support this game fully understand what you write sometimes? Is this game really some sort of cult game?
Low server stability. 2-4 hr queue before you can play during primetime (EU and US). Lots of bugs, and many/most spells, skills and stats wither don't work at all, or are severely bugged. Some things are not implemented yet, it is common to see in your combat log things like "s_Mining failed", where "s_Mining" is supposed to be a string that says 'Your mining attempt has'. Similarly, if you mouse over at another player, it will say "s_MahirimMale", for example, instead of proper text. Audio is very weak, sounds are worse than games from 5-10 years ago, soundtrack very faint and very few tracks. Compared to games like WoW and EVE, DFO's soundtrack downright sucks. Graphics settings, for the most part, don't work. You can set antialiasing, but it will have no effect, you can modify anisotrophic filtering, again no effect, you can try and override the setting with your video card control panel, but that won't work either. You cannot change field of view, about 100 meters away from you there's impenetrable fog, and nothing you do will change that, even if your PC can easily handle draw distance 20x as much, too bad, so sad, you're out of luck. There's only one actionbar, with multiple tabs. Unfortunately you can't separate them, or make them horizontal. The rest of the UI sucks just as bad. You have to sheathe/unsheathe weapons for primitive and mundane tasks like looting. The world is mostly barren, aside from occasional flock of birds of butterflies, you won't see much of a wildlife, except mob spawns, which are tied to geographic area, but those are usually few and far apart. You won't see squirrels, bunnies, snakes, etc. All the things that add to the world and make it feel like a living thing. No weather system either, just day/night cycle and clouds constantly moving up top. Quests are few, far apart, and very few of them are soloable. All quests revolve around "go there, kill/loot that", and locations are marked on the map (easy mode), you do not get cool quests like races or bombing runs, the best I've seen so far is "kill as many trolls as you can in an hour". Combat is primitive and non-responsive. Not much to say there. Magic is badly unfinished, and at early skill levels, completely non-competitive compared to archery or melee. City building is tied to specific locations, you can't just build a city wherever you want. Similarly, player house building is tied to clan city building, you can't just build a house on an island somewhere. It is about as restrictive as The Sims, where you get a lot to build in, and that's it. City building is fairly primitive also, you have 3 tiers of a Keep, walls, towers, gates, farm/quarry/etc., plus small huts with NPC triainers. Sieges are largely bugged, and siege tools don't work well. Clan politics revolve around friend/foe. But basically everyone is against everyone else. Alignment system is a joke. And since you can't effectively siege due to the system being broken, it all boils down to small raids and lots of namecalling. The game has THE most grind of any other MMO in the past 5 years. If you think grinding honor in AV was bad in WoW, try grinding magic in Darkfall, it is 10 times slower, and just leads to another, just as useless, grind. Having said that, the game is unusual, because it has full looting, and unlike EVE Online, you usually don't have to fly around for days looking for someone to kill. If you feel like being a criminal, you can find something to kill every 10 mins. And if you find a nice clan of like-minded people whose company you enjoy, the grind becomes bearable, and even the most boring PvE has potential for fun I dont hate the game Really I dont.But Seriously if these problems get fixed I'll Try it in a heartbeat. If any of these problems have been Fixed Please Let me know.
I'm ready to get my Head chewed off I posted this on the darkfall forums the first month the game was out. It's outdated and i wanna see how the Games Improved
Here's another instance of someone who hasn't played the game commenting on all of the issues they have never experienced, and all of the trolls backing him up 100% because their sole purpose in life is to bash a game they have never played and most have no intention of playing.
GF, wasn't close. If you are going to bash :DF, bash something new. All of these complaints have been lodged. And, most are correct except queue times and the combat reponsiveness.
Honestly, I really think someone hacked your account mage. You are becoming as clueless as the rest of the bunch. He said very clearly at the bottom that he heard these were all problems at launch and wonders how things have progressed and what has been fixed. Read the whole thing and then read the thread before bashing the OP 4 pages into the thread. And I can say the same to you, quit telling people the same thing over and over again, that if DF is bad its not their problem and they should leave and stop posting here and move on with their life. Can say the EXACT same thing to you, look in the mirror.
I wouldn't say as clueless, just fed up.
This board consists of 20 people.
5 who are completely against Darkfall, call anyone who says anything positive about Darkfall a Fanboy.
5 Who are Completely for Darkfall. Call anyone who says anything negative/not positive about Darkfall, a Troll.
5 who support The trolls completely. They don't even read the OP, but only bash the fanboys or non anti-Darkfall people
5 who support the fanboys completely. I'd say they don't read the OP, but it seems the fanboys aren't creating any posts anymore.
It's the same people posting the same negatives about Darkfall. It's one thing to bash a company for the way they run a game, it's another to comment on aspects of a game they do not even play. I keep saying that because I want people to get it. Things that make Darkfall suck (crashing, bugs, lag, ETC) don't affect those who don't play it, or plan on playing it. I don't post all of the negative things about WAR on the WAR forums, do I? I don't post the negative things about EVE on the EVE forums do I? I played WAR, and moved on. I tried playing EVE, but I didn't like it. Do you see the pattern? Hell, all of the games I have negative views about, I've played. How can anyone form a negative view about a game they've never played, then post it as if it were fact.
And I did read the OP. He didn't bother to look up any information himself. He didn't experience any of the issues he's questioning. He didn't phrase his post (that is, until the very end) in such a way that he was wondering.
I heard that when you log into WoW, your computer blows up, and a guy named Vinny comes in.. Have they fixed that yet?
What are you even talking about? You ramble on about useless crap most the time recently. Ive seen tons of new people posting on this forum even though I usually just read not post now. Same as the OP he rarely posts here yet you try and classify him as a rabid hater. He was merely asking if things have changed and he gets attacked by everyone.
You try and defend the game by bashing other games? How is that even logical? Your computer blowing up when you log into wow? Who is vinny? Seriously instead of bashing the OP maybe stick to the game instead of saying well Vanguard had this problem or WoW had this problem 4 years ago have they fixed it!? Who cares? This is a DF forum not a wow or VG forum.
Ok elaborating: What OP mostly describes in his post are DESIGN choices made in the game, not bugs and he is portraying them in a way that only his way is the correct way and without changes there are problems while of course all players happily playing DFO don't see it like that. Queues and stability we're the only gripes I had with the game and they're fixed.
Design choices? :
- bugs, and many/most spells, skills and stats wither don't work at all
- not implemented yet, it is common to see in your combat log things like "s_Mining failed"
- Audio is very weak, sounds are worse than games from 5-10 years ago
- Graphics settings, for the most part, don't work
- There's only one actionbar
- The world is mostly barren
- Combat is primitive and non-responsive.
- Magic is badly unfinished
- you can't just build a city wherever you want
- City building is fairly primitive
- The game has THE most grind of any other MMO in the past 5 years
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Did you read his post at all? You claim all these things listed above are design choices? Only thing you might be able to argue is the world being barren part, and still that is highly opinionated and does not align with DF's website, saying PvE will be very important also.
Yellow = design choices (or his point of view)
Red = bugs (not corrected)
Green = corrected (or at least I have never encountered)
Hopefully happy now?
This is the best example of fanboism I have witnessed in the last couple of months LOL, they left "S_mining Failed" in game by design, how can someone post this BS with a straight face i dunno.
Ok elaborating: What OP mostly describes in his post are DESIGN choices made in the game, not bugs and he is portraying them in a way that only his way is the correct way and without changes there are problems while of course all players happily playing DFO don't see it like that. Queues and stability we're the only gripes I had with the game and they're fixed.
Design choices? :
- bugs, and many/most spells, skills and stats wither don't work at all (Half correct )
- not implemented yet, it is common to see in your combat log things like "s_Mining failed"
- Audio is very weak, sounds are worse than games from 5-10 years ago
- Graphics settings, for the most part, don't work
- There's only one actionbar
- The world is mostly barren
- Combat is primitive and non-responsive.
- Magic is badly unfinished
- you can't just build a city wherever you want
- City building is fairly primitive
- The game has THE most grind of any other MMO in the past 5 years
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Did you read his post at all? You claim all these things listed above are design choices? Only thing you might be able to argue is the world being barren part, and still that is highly opinionated and does not align with DF's website, saying PvE will be very important also.
Yellow = design choices (or his point of view)
Red = bugs (not corrected)
Green = corrected (or at least I have never encountered)
*Raises hand* oh OH OH! i want to be stereotyped too!
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Relex guys, appraoch DF as a illustration of a failed project, or a crisis management process in progress, or well stuck somewhere.
As for the verbal defence put up by the fanatic few, look at it this way. The German armies were rolling the French defense during the start of WW2, cut thru it and moved past. A few loyal defenders of the French static defence strategy will wave a flag at the static gun pointing east, when the German army were already west of the gun stations, and they will be chanting, "this is the defence by design, the Germans should not be fighting to our West. The defence strategy is working as intended."
I wouldn't say as clueless, just fed up. This board consists of 20 people. 5 who are completely against Darkfall, call anyone who says anything positive about Darkfall a Fanboy. 5 Who are Completely for Darkfall. Call anyone who says anything negative/not positive about Darkfall, a Troll. 5 who support The trolls completely. They don't even read the OP, but only bash the fanboys or non anti-Darkfall people 5 who support the fanboys completely. I'd say they don't read the OP, but it seems the fanboys aren't creating any posts anymore. It's the same people posting the same negatives about Darkfall. It's one thing to bash a company for the way they run a game, it's another to comment on aspects of a game they do not even play. I keep saying that because I want people to get it. Things that make Darkfall suck (crashing, bugs, lag, ETC) don't affect those who don't play it, or plan on playing it. I don't post all of the negative things about WAR on the WAR forums, do I? I don't post the negative things about EVE on the EVE forums do I? I played WAR, and moved on. I tried playing EVE, but I didn't like it. Do you see the pattern? Hell, all of the games I have negative views about, I've played. How can anyone form a negative view about a game they've never played, then post it as if it were fact. And I did read the OP. He didn't bother to look up any information himself. He didn't experience any of the issues he's questioning. He didn't phrase his post (that is, until the very end) in such a way that he was wondering. I heard that when you log into WoW, your computer blows up, and a guy named Vinny comes in.. Have they fixed that yet?
What are you even talking about? You ramble on about useless crap most the time recently. Ive seen tons of new people posting on this forum even though I usually just read not post now. Same as the OP he rarely posts here yet you try and classify him as a rabid hater. He was merely asking if things have changed and he gets attacked by everyone.
You try and defend the game by bashing other games? How is that even logical? Your computer blowing up when you log into wow? Who is vinny? Seriously instead of bashing the OP maybe stick to the game instead of saying well Vanguard had this problem or WoW had this problem 4 years ago have they fixed it!? Who cares? This is a DF forum not a wow or VG forum.
Yeah.. You're legit. The OP has a 2 day post history. Newly created account.. Logic.. look it up. Someone who creates an account to bash a game. Yep.. Hater.
I haven't defended the game. Which, clearly, you do not understand. Let me point it out for you. I agreed with all of the issues he states, read my post again.
That's the point I'm making. Too many people come into this forum, the Darkfall Forum (which has the most rabid fanboys hands down) and create a thread bringing up all of the issues with Darkfall. They bring up issues from a game they don't play or plan on playing. He didn't say "When I played Darkfall a month ago, these were the problems" He says I would buy the game if these things were fixed.. as if he knows they exist because some guy said so a month ago. Which goes back to my reference of "So, I heard when you log into WoW, your computer blows up and a guy named Vinnie comes in .. (I left out the kicks you in the nuts part)" This poster is just another one of those posters. Pretty evident. He's doing a good job of trolling.
Thanks for being yet another blind shill who bashes a game they've never played. GF, next time take the helmet off. It makes you more credible.
I do think this does show however how the interest in DF has decreased. It was way up on this site with many people taking part in these debates daily. Now its down to the few the proud the whatevers. Honestly its all become stale and boring lol. How I wish Aion would come out already and I wouldnt have to cruise various forums for some form of slight entertainment. Anyways chaps its been a good show and all but in all seriousness I think its time we all move on and let DF die or limp or whatever it shall do.
It has, greatly. The people who used to post here daily bashing Darkfall have been banned, and the people here who praised Darkfall as if it were the coming of the next Christ have either moved on, or stopped posting (originalegg, imbant, ETC)
I'm here reading the forums to learn more information about the game. There's some great info posted occasionally by some of the folks who played it, and those who still play it.
Its obvious the reposting of this particular post wasn't intended as just a simple state of the game query, it was meant for much more then that. Rephrasing his post could have assisted in curbing the confusion, but since the original post probably took countless hours of his time to type up this was more of a half assed way to both attack Darkfall and repost his most beloved of literary works. For the majority of honest reviews of MMO's, you'll find they usually take place well after the first month when A) the game gets into the swing of things and All the initial launch bugs have been fixed. I can easily tell you that Vanguard on launch left much to be desired, yet a few months down the line it became a game worthy of attention. Perhaps thats too little too late? As much could at least be said about the OPs reposting of his "review" as it appears at least some of not most of what he posted has either been fixed or is related to personal preference and shouldn't hold sway as not all games are made for everyone. UI changes, combat feel and the like are preferences that players would have to get used to as part of playing the game I.E. 1st person in MO.
Still: Rule one of forums: Never reply until you read the whole post you are replying to. If it's too long just ignore it or force yourself to read it.
It's not harder than that, the OP could have made his post better but that not an excuse.
You are aware that the lines stating that the post was written to draw a comparison were thrown in after the fact?
Maybe he did read the entire post, and that line simply wasn't there.
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I wouldn't say as clueless, just fed up. This board consists of 20 people. 5 who are completely against Darkfall, call anyone who says anything positive about Darkfall a Fanboy. 5 Who are Completely for Darkfall. Call anyone who says anything negative/not positive about Darkfall, a Troll. 5 who support The trolls completely. They don't even read the OP, but only bash the fanboys or non anti-Darkfall people 5 who support the fanboys completely. I'd say they don't read the OP, but it seems the fanboys aren't creating any posts anymore. It's the same people posting the same negatives about Darkfall. It's one thing to bash a company for the way they run a game, it's another to comment on aspects of a game they do not even play. I keep saying that because I want people to get it. Things that make Darkfall suck (crashing, bugs, lag, ETC) don't affect those who don't play it, or plan on playing it. I don't post all of the negative things about WAR on the WAR forums, do I? I don't post the negative things about EVE on the EVE forums do I? I played WAR, and moved on. I tried playing EVE, but I didn't like it. Do you see the pattern? Hell, all of the games I have negative views about, I've played. How can anyone form a negative view about a game they've never played, then post it as if it were fact. And I did read the OP. He didn't bother to look up any information himself. He didn't experience any of the issues he's questioning. He didn't phrase his post (that is, until the very end) in such a way that he was wondering. I heard that when you log into WoW, your computer blows up, and a guy named Vinny comes in.. Have they fixed that yet?
What are you even talking about? You ramble on about useless crap most the time recently. Ive seen tons of new people posting on this forum even though I usually just read not post now. Same as the OP he rarely posts here yet you try and classify him as a rabid hater. He was merely asking if things have changed and he gets attacked by everyone.
You try and defend the game by bashing other games? How is that even logical? Your computer blowing up when you log into wow? Who is vinny? Seriously instead of bashing the OP maybe stick to the game instead of saying well Vanguard had this problem or WoW had this problem 4 years ago have they fixed it!? Who cares? This is a DF forum not a wow or VG forum.
Yeah.. You're legit. The OP has a 2 day post history. Newly created account.. Logic.. look it up. Someone who creates an account to bash a game. Yep.. Hater.
I haven't defended the game. Which, clearly, you do not understand. Let me point it out for you. I agreed with all of the issues he states, read my post again.
That's the point I'm making. Too many people come into this forum, the Darkfall Forum (which has the most rabid fanboys hands down) and create a thread bringing up all of the issues with Darkfall. They bring up issues from a game they don't play or plan on playing. He didn't say "When I played Darkfall a month ago, these were the problems" He says I would buy the game if these things were fixed.. as if he knows they exist because some guy said so a month ago. Which goes back to my reference of "So, I heard when you log into WoW, your computer blows up and a guy named Vinnie comes in .. (I left out the kicks you in the nuts part)" This poster is just another one of those posters. Pretty evident. He's doing a good job of trolling.
Thanks for being yet another blind shill who bashes a game they've never played. GF, next time take the helmet off. It makes you more credible.
Thats Really Funny Because I came To Mmorpg.com TO SEE HOW DARKFALL IMPROVED
I wouldn't say as clueless, just fed up. This board consists of 20 people. 5 who are completely against Darkfall, call anyone who says anything positive about Darkfall a Fanboy. 5 Who are Completely for Darkfall. Call anyone who says anything negative/not positive about Darkfall, a Troll. 5 who support The trolls completely. They don't even read the OP, but only bash the fanboys or non anti-Darkfall people 5 who support the fanboys completely. I'd say they don't read the OP, but it seems the fanboys aren't creating any posts anymore. It's the same people posting the same negatives about Darkfall. It's one thing to bash a company for the way they run a game, it's another to comment on aspects of a game they do not even play. I keep saying that because I want people to get it. Things that make Darkfall suck (crashing, bugs, lag, ETC) don't affect those who don't play it, or plan on playing it. I don't post all of the negative things about WAR on the WAR forums, do I? I don't post the negative things about EVE on the EVE forums do I? I played WAR, and moved on. I tried playing EVE, but I didn't like it. Do you see the pattern? Hell, all of the games I have negative views about, I've played. How can anyone form a negative view about a game they've never played, then post it as if it were fact. And I did read the OP. He didn't bother to look up any information himself. He didn't experience any of the issues he's questioning. He didn't phrase his post (that is, until the very end) in such a way that he was wondering. I heard that when you log into WoW, your computer blows up, and a guy named Vinny comes in.. Have they fixed that yet?
What are you even talking about? You ramble on about useless crap most the time recently. Ive seen tons of new people posting on this forum even though I usually just read not post now. Same as the OP he rarely posts here yet you try and classify him as a rabid hater. He was merely asking if things have changed and he gets attacked by everyone.
You try and defend the game by bashing other games? How is that even logical? Your computer blowing up when you log into wow? Who is vinny? Seriously instead of bashing the OP maybe stick to the game instead of saying well Vanguard had this problem or WoW had this problem 4 years ago have they fixed it!? Who cares? This is a DF forum not a wow or VG forum.
Yeah.. You're legit. The OP has a 2 day post history. Newly created account.. Logic.. look it up. Someone who creates an account to bash a game. Yep.. Hater.
I haven't defended the game. Which, clearly, you do not understand. Let me point it out for you. I agreed with all of the issues he states, read my post again.
That's the point I'm making. Too many people come into this forum, the Darkfall Forum (which has the most rabid fanboys hands down) and create a thread bringing up all of the issues with Darkfall. They bring up issues from a game they don't play or plan on playing. He didn't say "When I played Darkfall a month ago, these were the problems" He says I would buy the game if these things were fixed.. as if he knows they exist because some guy said so a month ago. Which goes back to my reference of "So, I heard when you log into WoW, your computer blows up and a guy named Vinnie comes in .. (I left out the kicks you in the nuts part)" This poster is just another one of those posters. Pretty evident. He's doing a good job of trolling.
Thanks for being yet another blind shill who bashes a game they've never played. GF, next time take the helmet off. It makes you more credible.
Thats Really Funny Because I came To Mmorpg.com TO SEE HOW DARKFALL IMPROVED
Not to see the Game's DownFall
Read the Rest of my post before you BASH IT
Damn!
Yeah! I completely believe you! Because there aren't official forums..
You posted this on the Darkfall forums the first month the game is out.. So.. Umm.. the responses are probably there.
Yeah.. You're legit. The OP has a 2 day post history. Newly created account.. Logic.. look it up. Someone who creates an account to bash a game. Yep.. Hater.
I haven't defended the game. Which, clearly, you do not understand. Let me point it out for you. I agreed with all of the issues he states, read my post again.
That's the point I'm making. Too many people come into this forum, the Darkfall Forum (which has the most rabid fanboys hands down) and create a thread bringing up all of the issues with Darkfall. They bring up issues from a game they don't play or plan on playing. He didn't say "When I played Darkfall a month ago, these were the problems" He says I would buy the game if these things were fixed.. as if he knows they exist because some guy said so a month ago. Which goes back to my reference of "So, I heard when you log into WoW, your computer blows up and a guy named Vinnie comes in .. (I left out the kicks you in the nuts part)" This poster is just another one of those posters. Pretty evident. He's doing a good job of trolling.
Thanks for being yet another blind shill who bashes a game they've never played. GF, next time take the helmet off. It makes you more credible.
By YOUR own admission almost everyone here is in one of 4 groups so which one is he? So what if he has or hasn't played the game? EVERYONE knows what is in DF now. He was merely stating that he would like feedback and you and all the other fanboys jump on his back. Please you defend this game in every 2nd post then bash it in the other post. You are the most bi polar person on the forums. How is he trolling? Is asking simple questions trolling? Can you not answer any of them? Thought so...
The only blind one here is you and your lack of knowledge. If you so evidently think he is trolling why not say what has changed in the game beside the queues? Exactly. I have about 80% of the forums thinking like I do and only the 20% fanboys think like you. Go figure.
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And, yet again, Ladies and Gentlemen, within the first several responses to this thread, we see another fine example of how DF fanatics will - by their own admission - not read an entire post, but stop at the things they don't like (namely, any criticism of the game), and proceed to bash the OP. In this case (like many others) actually *reading* the entire post would have saved some of them from looking like idiots in their responses...
There's a key sentence at the end of the OP's post that puts the entire thing in context:
"I posted this on the darkfall forums the first month the game was out. It's outdated and i wanna see how the Games Improved"
In other words: He's saying that the items he listed were cited issues when the game came out out - and they were, as I remember the discussions about them (e.g. people pointing out issues they encountered while playing, fans immediately calling that person a liar who wasnt' really playing; you all know the routine). He wants to know what's been fixed/improved since then.
But, as usual, after the first item, the rabid fans were too busy falling all over themselves calling him a liar and flaming him to notice that it was an opportunity for them to respond to each point, showing that those items had been fixed.
Good job, DF fans. You've represented your community for what it is.... yet again.
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By most of the issues, do you mean the queue? Seriously, like the OP, I am very interested in what has actually been fixed in the 2 full months since release and I am pretty sure "most" of them fixed is not accurate, but if it is, please explain.
Ok elaborating:
What OP mostly describes in his post are DESIGN choices made in the game, not bugs and he is portraying them in a way that only his way is the correct way and without changes there are problems while of course all players happily playing DFO don't see it like that.
Queues and stability we're the only gripes I had with the game and they're fixed.
Design choices? :
- bugs, and many/most spells, skills and stats wither don't work at all
- not implemented yet, it is common to see in your combat log things like "s_Mining failed"
- Audio is very weak, sounds are worse than games from 5-10 years ago
- Graphics settings, for the most part, don't work
- There's only one actionbar
- The world is mostly barren
- Combat is primitive and non-responsive.
- Magic is badly unfinished
- you can't just build a city wherever you want
- City building is fairly primitive
- The game has THE most grind of any other MMO in the past 5 years
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Did you read his post at all? You claim all these things listed above are design choices? Only thing you might be able to argue is the world being barren part, and still that is highly opinionated and does not align with DF's website, saying PvE will be very important also.
Design choices? :
- bugs, and many/most spells, skills and stats wither don't work at all
- not implemented yet, it is common to see in your combat log things like "s_Mining failed"
- Audio is very weak, sounds are worse than games from 5-10 years ago
- Graphics settings, for the most part, don't work
- There's only one actionbar
- The world is mostly barren
- Combat is primitive and non-responsive.
- Magic is badly unfinished
- you can't just build a city wherever you want
- City building is fairly primitive
- The game has THE most grind of any other MMO in the past 5 years
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Did you read his post at all? You claim all these things listed above are design choices? Only thing you might be able to argue is the world being barren part, and still that is highly opinionated and does not align with DF's website, saying PvE will be very important also.
Yellow = design choices (or his point of view)
Red = bugs (not corrected)
Green = corrected (or at least I have never encountered)
Hopefully happy now?
Design choices? :
- bugs, and many/most spells, skills and stats wither don't work at all
Not true
- not implemented yet, it is common to see in your combat log things like "s_Mining failed"
True
- Audio is very weak, sounds are worse than games from 5-10 years ago
Opinion, mine works pretty well.
- Graphics settings, for the most part, don't work
False
- There's only one actionbar
10 actually
- The world is mostly barren
Opinion, I find mob spawns within a few minutes run of each other.
- Combat is primitive and non-responsive.
Opinion, but in my opinion, incorrect.
- Magic is badly unfinished
Opinion and I disagree
- you can't just build a city wherever you want
True
- City building is fairly primitive
Opinion
- The game has THE most grind of any other MMO in the past 5 years
Not for me, as I do not grind. I simply play.
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Did you read his post at all? You claim all these things listed above are design choices? Only thing you might be able to argue is the world being barren part, and still that is highly opinionated and does not align with DF's website, saying PvE will be very important also.
I spend most of my time PVEing for gold and mats. As a matter of fact, most players probably do the same.
So, in my opinion, PVE is an important part of the game.
Wow, when I took out the queue thing and just put a bit of the information the OP did for most of his complaints he asked about in a structured format, you guys answered so readily! Thanks for the color schemes and responses to the actual thread.
Here's another instance of someone who hasn't played the game commenting on all of the issues they have never experienced, and all of the trolls backing him up 100% because their sole purpose in life is to bash a game they have never played and most have no intention of playing.
GF, wasn't close. If you are going to bash :DF, bash something new. All of these complaints have been lodged. And, most are correct except queue times and the combat reponsiveness.
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Here's another instance of someone who hasn't played the game commenting on all of the issues they have never experienced, and all of the trolls backing him up 100% because their sole purpose in life is to bash a game they have never played and most have no intention of playing.
GF, wasn't close. If you are going to bash :DF, bash something new. All of these complaints have been lodged. And, most are correct except queue times and the combat reponsiveness.
Honestly, I really think someone hacked your account mage. You are becoming as clueless as the rest of the bunch. He said very clearly at the bottom that he heard these were all problems at launch and wonders how things have progressed and what has been fixed. Read the whole thing and then read the thread before bashing the OP 4 pages into the thread. And I can say the same to you, quit telling people the same thing over and over again, that if DF is bad its not their problem and they should leave and stop posting here and move on with their life. Can say the EXACT same thing to you, look in the mirror.
First Of all When I reviewed this On the original Darkfall Forums It Was Months Ago For one
And How is it Bs and Spewing lies It's Is Mostly based Fact and Also opinion Dont Like it Dont Read it
it's that easy But if you find it Easier to sleep At night By Saying that go right ahead
What you posted was all complete bullsh*t and lies because it was negative about Darkfall.
But everything you mentioned that is complete bullsh*t and lies has been fixed months ago anyway.
If you are wondering how complete bullsh*t and lies can actually be fixed if they are indeed all just complete bullsh*t and lies and not actual genuine problems that can be fixed or have been fixed then you are a troll hater and incapable of understanding,but nonetheless everything is perfect with Darkfall now and always has been and always will be.
Anyone who says anything counter to that is a bull sh*tting liar.
I only read the first sentence of your post of complete bullsh*t and lies anyway, but from that single sentence I could automatically tell everything else you wrote was complete bullsh*t and lies because anyone who says anything negative about Darkfall is always talking complete bullsh*t and lies all the time every time because they are troll haters and Darkfall is perfect.
Here's another instance of someone who hasn't played the game commenting on all of the issues they have never experienced, and all of the trolls backing him up 100% because their sole purpose in life is to bash a game they have never played and most have no intention of playing.
GF, wasn't close. If you are going to bash :DF, bash something new. All of these complaints have been lodged. And, most are correct except queue times and the combat reponsiveness.
Honestly, I really think someone hacked your account mage. You are becoming as clueless as the rest of the bunch. He said very clearly at the bottom that he heard these were all problems at launch and wonders how things have progressed and what has been fixed. Read the whole thing and then read the thread before bashing the OP 4 pages into the thread. And I can say the same to you, quit telling people the same thing over and over again, that if DF is bad its not their problem and they should leave and stop posting here and move on with their life. Can say the EXACT same thing to you, look in the mirror.
I wouldn't say as clueless, just fed up.
This board consists of 20 people.
5 who are completely against Darkfall, call anyone who says anything positive about Darkfall a Fanboy.
5 Who are Completely for Darkfall. Call anyone who says anything negative/not positive about Darkfall, a Troll.
5 who support The trolls completely. They don't even read the OP, but only bash the fanboys or non anti-Darkfall people
5 who support the fanboys completely. I'd say they don't read the OP, but it seems the fanboys aren't creating any posts anymore.
It's the same people posting the same negatives about Darkfall. It's one thing to bash a company for the way they run a game, it's another to comment on aspects of a game they do not even play. I keep saying that because I want people to get it. Things that make Darkfall suck (crashing, bugs, lag, ETC) don't affect those who don't play it, or plan on playing it. I don't post all of the negative things about WAR on the WAR forums, do I? I don't post the negative things about EVE on the EVE forums do I? I played WAR, and moved on. I tried playing EVE, but I didn't like it. Do you see the pattern? Hell, all of the games I have negative views about, I've played. How can anyone form a negative view about a game they've never played, then post it as if it were fact.
And I did read the OP. He didn't bother to look up any information himself. He didn't experience any of the issues he's questioning. He didn't phrase his post (that is, until the very end) in such a way that he was wondering.
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First Of all When I reviewed this On the original Darkfall Forums It Was Months Ago For one
And How is it Bs and Spewing lies It's Is Mostly based Fact and Also opinion Dont Like it Dont Read it
it's that easy But if you find it Easier to sleep At night By Saying that go right ahead
What you posted was all complete bullsh*t and lies because it was negative about Darkfall.
But everything you mentioned that is complete bullsh*t and lies has been fixed months ago anyway.
If you are wondering how complete bullsh*t and lies can actually be fixed if they are indeed all just complete bullsh*t and lies and not actual genuine problems that can be fixed or have been fixed then you are a troll hater and incapable of understanding,but nonetheless everything is perfect with Darkfall now and always has been and always will be.
Anyone who says anything counter to that is a bull sh*tting liar.
I only read the first sentence of your post of complete bullsh*t and lies anyway, but from that single sentence I could automatically tell everything else you wrote was complete bullsh*t and lies because anyone who says anything negative about Darkfall is always talking complete bullsh*t and lies all the time every time because they are troll haters and Darkfall is perfect.
Bullsh*t...........Don't bullsh*t the bullsh*ter, i know bullsh*t when i see it and this is some major bullsh*t.
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What you posted was all complete bullsh*t and lies because it was negative about Darkfall.
But everything you mentioned that is complete bullsh*t and lies has been fixed months ago anyway.
If you are wondering how complete bullsh*t and lies can actually be fixed if they are indeed all just complete bullsh*t and lies and not actual genuine problems that can be fixed or have been fixed then you are a troll hater and incapable of understanding,but nonetheless everything is perfect with Darkfall now and always has been and always will be.
Anyone who says anything counter to that is a bull sh*tting liar.
I only read the first sentence of your post of complete bullsh*t and lies anyway, but from that single sentence I could automatically tell everything else you wrote was complete bullsh*t and lies because anyone who says anything negative about Darkfall is always talking complete bullsh*t and lies all the time every time because they are troll haters and Darkfall is perfect.
This is by far one of the most retarded posts Ive ever seen and exemplifies the general community that plays this game. So it's all complete bs and lies yet they fixed the so called complete bs and lies even though there was no problem? So they fixed the thin air? You also only read one sentance so you do not know the bs and lies he was asking about?
Do some of you people they support this game fully understand what you write sometimes? Is this game really some sort of cult game?
Here's another instance of someone who hasn't played the game commenting on all of the issues they have never experienced, and all of the trolls backing him up 100% because their sole purpose in life is to bash a game they have never played and most have no intention of playing.
GF, wasn't close. If you are going to bash :DF, bash something new. All of these complaints have been lodged. And, most are correct except queue times and the combat reponsiveness.
Honestly, I really think someone hacked your account mage. You are becoming as clueless as the rest of the bunch. He said very clearly at the bottom that he heard these were all problems at launch and wonders how things have progressed and what has been fixed. Read the whole thing and then read the thread before bashing the OP 4 pages into the thread. And I can say the same to you, quit telling people the same thing over and over again, that if DF is bad its not their problem and they should leave and stop posting here and move on with their life. Can say the EXACT same thing to you, look in the mirror.
I wouldn't say as clueless, just fed up.
This board consists of 20 people.
5 who are completely against Darkfall, call anyone who says anything positive about Darkfall a Fanboy.
5 Who are Completely for Darkfall. Call anyone who says anything negative/not positive about Darkfall, a Troll.
5 who support The trolls completely. They don't even read the OP, but only bash the fanboys or non anti-Darkfall people
5 who support the fanboys completely. I'd say they don't read the OP, but it seems the fanboys aren't creating any posts anymore.
It's the same people posting the same negatives about Darkfall. It's one thing to bash a company for the way they run a game, it's another to comment on aspects of a game they do not even play. I keep saying that because I want people to get it. Things that make Darkfall suck (crashing, bugs, lag, ETC) don't affect those who don't play it, or plan on playing it. I don't post all of the negative things about WAR on the WAR forums, do I? I don't post the negative things about EVE on the EVE forums do I? I played WAR, and moved on. I tried playing EVE, but I didn't like it. Do you see the pattern? Hell, all of the games I have negative views about, I've played. How can anyone form a negative view about a game they've never played, then post it as if it were fact.
And I did read the OP. He didn't bother to look up any information himself. He didn't experience any of the issues he's questioning. He didn't phrase his post (that is, until the very end) in such a way that he was wondering.
I heard that when you log into WoW, your computer blows up, and a guy named Vinny comes in.. Have they fixed that yet?
What are you even talking about? You ramble on about useless crap most the time recently. Ive seen tons of new people posting on this forum even though I usually just read not post now. Same as the OP he rarely posts here yet you try and classify him as a rabid hater. He was merely asking if things have changed and he gets attacked by everyone.
You try and defend the game by bashing other games? How is that even logical? Your computer blowing up when you log into wow? Who is vinny? Seriously instead of bashing the OP maybe stick to the game instead of saying well Vanguard had this problem or WoW had this problem 4 years ago have they fixed it!? Who cares? This is a DF forum not a wow or VG forum.
oo ooo which of the 5 do i belong too?
Design choices? :
- bugs, and many/most spells, skills and stats wither don't work at all
- not implemented yet, it is common to see in your combat log things like "s_Mining failed"
- Audio is very weak, sounds are worse than games from 5-10 years ago
- Graphics settings, for the most part, don't work
- There's only one actionbar
- The world is mostly barren
- Combat is primitive and non-responsive.
- Magic is badly unfinished
- you can't just build a city wherever you want
- City building is fairly primitive
- The game has THE most grind of any other MMO in the past 5 years
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Did you read his post at all? You claim all these things listed above are design choices? Only thing you might be able to argue is the world being barren part, and still that is highly opinionated and does not align with DF's website, saying PvE will be very important also.
Yellow = design choices (or his point of view)
Red = bugs (not corrected)
Green = corrected (or at least I have never encountered)
Hopefully happy now?
This is the best example of fanboism I have witnessed in the last couple of months LOL, they left "S_mining Failed" in game by design, how can someone post this BS with a straight face i dunno.
Design choices? :
- bugs, and many/most spells, skills and stats wither don't work at all (Half correct
)
- not implemented yet, it is common to see in your combat log things like "s_Mining failed"
- Audio is very weak, sounds are worse than games from 5-10 years ago
- Graphics settings, for the most part, don't work
- There's only one actionbar
- The world is mostly barren
- Combat is primitive and non-responsive.
- Magic is badly unfinished
- you can't just build a city wherever you want
- City building is fairly primitive
- The game has THE most grind of any other MMO in the past 5 years
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Did you read his post at all? You claim all these things listed above are design choices? Only thing you might be able to argue is the world being barren part, and still that is highly opinionated and does not align with DF's website, saying PvE will be very important also.
Yellow = design choices (or his point of view)
Red = bugs (not corrected)
Green = corrected (or at least I have never encountered)
Hopefully happy now?
Fixed
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How are you?" -Me
Relex guys, appraoch DF as a illustration of a failed project, or a crisis management process in progress, or well stuck somewhere.
As for the verbal defence put up by the fanatic few, look at it this way. The German armies were rolling the French defense during the start of WW2, cut thru it and moved past. A few loyal defenders of the French static defence strategy will wave a flag at the static gun pointing east, when the German army were already west of the gun stations, and they will be chanting, "this is the defence by design, the Germans should not be fighting to our West. The defence strategy is working as intended."
What are you even talking about? You ramble on about useless crap most the time recently. Ive seen tons of new people posting on this forum even though I usually just read not post now. Same as the OP he rarely posts here yet you try and classify him as a rabid hater. He was merely asking if things have changed and he gets attacked by everyone.
You try and defend the game by bashing other games? How is that even logical? Your computer blowing up when you log into wow? Who is vinny? Seriously instead of bashing the OP maybe stick to the game instead of saying well Vanguard had this problem or WoW had this problem 4 years ago have they fixed it!? Who cares? This is a DF forum not a wow or VG forum.
Yeah.. You're legit. The OP has a 2 day post history. Newly created account.. Logic.. look it up. Someone who creates an account to bash a game. Yep.. Hater.
I haven't defended the game. Which, clearly, you do not understand. Let me point it out for you. I agreed with all of the issues he states, read my post again.
That's the point I'm making. Too many people come into this forum, the Darkfall Forum (which has the most rabid fanboys hands down) and create a thread bringing up all of the issues with Darkfall. They bring up issues from a game they don't play or plan on playing. He didn't say "When I played Darkfall a month ago, these were the problems" He says I would buy the game if these things were fixed.. as if he knows they exist because some guy said so a month ago. Which goes back to my reference of "So, I heard when you log into WoW, your computer blows up and a guy named Vinnie comes in .. (I left out the kicks you in the nuts part)" This poster is just another one of those posters. Pretty evident. He's doing a good job of trolling.
Thanks for being yet another blind shill who bashes a game they've never played. GF, next time take the helmet off. It makes you more credible.
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It has, greatly. The people who used to post here daily bashing Darkfall have been banned, and the people here who praised Darkfall as if it were the coming of the next Christ have either moved on, or stopped posting (originalegg, imbant, ETC)
I'm here reading the forums to learn more information about the game. There's some great info posted occasionally by some of the folks who played it, and those who still play it.
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Still: Rule one of forums: Never reply until you read the whole post you are replying to. If it's too long just ignore it or force yourself to read it.
It's not harder than that, the OP could have made his post better but that not an excuse.
You are aware that the lines stating that the post was written to draw a comparison were thrown in after the fact?
Maybe he did read the entire post, and that line simply wasn't there.
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What are you even talking about? You ramble on about useless crap most the time recently. Ive seen tons of new people posting on this forum even though I usually just read not post now. Same as the OP he rarely posts here yet you try and classify him as a rabid hater. He was merely asking if things have changed and he gets attacked by everyone.
You try and defend the game by bashing other games? How is that even logical? Your computer blowing up when you log into wow? Who is vinny? Seriously instead of bashing the OP maybe stick to the game instead of saying well Vanguard had this problem or WoW had this problem 4 years ago have they fixed it!? Who cares? This is a DF forum not a wow or VG forum.
Yeah.. You're legit. The OP has a 2 day post history. Newly created account.. Logic.. look it up. Someone who creates an account to bash a game. Yep.. Hater.
I haven't defended the game. Which, clearly, you do not understand. Let me point it out for you. I agreed with all of the issues he states, read my post again.
That's the point I'm making. Too many people come into this forum, the Darkfall Forum (which has the most rabid fanboys hands down) and create a thread bringing up all of the issues with Darkfall. They bring up issues from a game they don't play or plan on playing. He didn't say "When I played Darkfall a month ago, these were the problems" He says I would buy the game if these things were fixed.. as if he knows they exist because some guy said so a month ago. Which goes back to my reference of "So, I heard when you log into WoW, your computer blows up and a guy named Vinnie comes in .. (I left out the kicks you in the nuts part)" This poster is just another one of those posters. Pretty evident. He's doing a good job of trolling.
Thanks for being yet another blind shill who bashes a game they've never played. GF, next time take the helmet off. It makes you more credible.
Thats Really Funny Because I came To Mmorpg.com TO SEE HOW DARKFALL IMPROVED
Not to see the Game's DownFall
Read the Rest of my post before you BASH IT
Damn!
What are you even talking about? You ramble on about useless crap most the time recently. Ive seen tons of new people posting on this forum even though I usually just read not post now. Same as the OP he rarely posts here yet you try and classify him as a rabid hater. He was merely asking if things have changed and he gets attacked by everyone.
You try and defend the game by bashing other games? How is that even logical? Your computer blowing up when you log into wow? Who is vinny? Seriously instead of bashing the OP maybe stick to the game instead of saying well Vanguard had this problem or WoW had this problem 4 years ago have they fixed it!? Who cares? This is a DF forum not a wow or VG forum.
Yeah.. You're legit. The OP has a 2 day post history. Newly created account.. Logic.. look it up. Someone who creates an account to bash a game. Yep.. Hater.
I haven't defended the game. Which, clearly, you do not understand. Let me point it out for you. I agreed with all of the issues he states, read my post again.
That's the point I'm making. Too many people come into this forum, the Darkfall Forum (which has the most rabid fanboys hands down) and create a thread bringing up all of the issues with Darkfall. They bring up issues from a game they don't play or plan on playing. He didn't say "When I played Darkfall a month ago, these were the problems" He says I would buy the game if these things were fixed.. as if he knows they exist because some guy said so a month ago. Which goes back to my reference of "So, I heard when you log into WoW, your computer blows up and a guy named Vinnie comes in .. (I left out the kicks you in the nuts part)" This poster is just another one of those posters. Pretty evident. He's doing a good job of trolling.
Thanks for being yet another blind shill who bashes a game they've never played. GF, next time take the helmet off. It makes you more credible.
Thats Really Funny Because I came To Mmorpg.com TO SEE HOW DARKFALL IMPROVED
Not to see the Game's DownFall
Read the Rest of my post before you BASH IT
Damn!
Yeah! I completely believe you! Because there aren't official forums..
You posted this on the Darkfall forums the first month the game is out.. So.. Umm.. the responses are probably there.
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Yeah.. You're legit. The OP has a 2 day post history. Newly created account.. Logic.. look it up. Someone who creates an account to bash a game. Yep.. Hater.
I haven't defended the game. Which, clearly, you do not understand. Let me point it out for you. I agreed with all of the issues he states, read my post again.
That's the point I'm making. Too many people come into this forum, the Darkfall Forum (which has the most rabid fanboys hands down) and create a thread bringing up all of the issues with Darkfall. They bring up issues from a game they don't play or plan on playing. He didn't say "When I played Darkfall a month ago, these were the problems" He says I would buy the game if these things were fixed.. as if he knows they exist because some guy said so a month ago. Which goes back to my reference of "So, I heard when you log into WoW, your computer blows up and a guy named Vinnie comes in .. (I left out the kicks you in the nuts part)" This poster is just another one of those posters. Pretty evident. He's doing a good job of trolling.
Thanks for being yet another blind shill who bashes a game they've never played. GF, next time take the helmet off. It makes you more credible.
By YOUR own admission almost everyone here is in one of 4 groups so which one is he? So what if he has or hasn't played the game? EVERYONE knows what is in DF now. He was merely stating that he would like feedback and you and all the other fanboys jump on his back. Please you defend this game in every 2nd post then bash it in the other post. You are the most bi polar person on the forums. How is he trolling? Is asking simple questions trolling? Can you not answer any of them? Thought so...
The only blind one here is you and your lack of knowledge. If you so evidently think he is trolling why not say what has changed in the game beside the queues? Exactly. I have about 80% of the forums thinking like I do and only the 20% fanboys think like you. Go figure.