It dosent matter how long they played. I played Vanguard for 5 minutes, and the game sucks.. plain and simple. I can tell by reviews, screen shots and videos on you tube, the community and the Darkfail Forums that this guy made an accurate write up of the game. The people with common sense, AKA: the trolls, do not need to play the pos game to know it sucks. It is a niche game, yes. But sadly it is a niche game for the socialy inept.
Eurogamer is pure trash. That review was directly hateful, in addition to flawed.
I will never again read anything from them - and I am far from a DF fanboy (I have played the game, so I know what it is like, and that review was out to damage DF).
Careful parts of the sky may hit you, get your tinfoil hat out. . .
I have no reason to believe Tasos either, if he wants to prove that his game is not a pile then release free trials.
QFT.
Guys you do understand that they have more demand than server capacity?
If you don't believe the fanboys and Tasos, you should believe a self confessed carebear whuich is also the owner of this site, so I believe he is fairly unbiased.
Aventurine are retarded in many level, distribution, planning and communication, but the game is great, and can only get better.
There is no way DF deserve a 2/10.
It is 10 times better than AoC, WAR and all this shit.
In your opinion to highlighted.
I understand that they cannot support more people, but until the day of free trials they will get none of my money. There isn't a shred of evidence that would convince me to fork out money for this game.
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I find it very unprofessional that Tasos posted that message. A developer attacking a reviewer (even if the reviewer is a complete idiot) and revealing information about an account is one of the worst thing a game developer can do. I do realize that much of what Tasos writes is correct, but it is not proper for a developer to do that. It would be like someone at Bethesda/Capcom (or whoever) saying the reviewer of at such and such is a idiot and a liar. That kinda just rubs me the wrong way as it comes off looking like a group of whiny little turds.
A professional company that felt they were wronged by a reviewer would release a statement or post a message fixing the contradictions, but would not attack the reviewer and call them a liar. Post the corrections explain but do not give out account information to prove your point nor should you attack the reviewer.
You would think that Tasos and everyone over there would have grown some tough skin do to the amount of dislike/hate this game get, but no they act like a little kid.
Eurogamer is pure trash. That review was directly hateful, in addition to flawed.
I will never again read anything from them - and I am far from a DF fanboy (I have played the game, so I know what it is like, and that review was out to damage DF).
Careful parts of the sky may hit you, get your tinfoil hat out. . .
I have no reason to believe Tasos either, if he wants to prove that his game is not a pile then release free trials.
QFT.
Guys you do understand that they have more demand than server capacity?
If you don't believe the fanboys and Tasos, you should believe a self confessed carebear whuich is also the owner of this site, so I believe he is fairly unbiased.
Aventurine are retarded in many level, distribution, planning and communication, but the game is great, and can only get better.
There is no way DF deserve a 2/10.
It is 10 times better than AoC, WAR and all this shit.
Eurogamer is just a shit site for allowing this reviw to be published.
I'm not even going to repeat myself to your silly points. I will just say that first, that's not a review, and second, John did not write it.
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If that is the truth (about the playtime) it is obvious the reviewer is a fanboy of a certain game (most likely WOW) and decided to slam it. In that case Eurogamer has serious issues and absolutely needs to have someone unbiased re-review this here game.
Lol. A fanboy of Darkfall calling a hater a fanboy of World of Warcraft. Get over it, World of Warcraft had many genre-defining advancements to it.
Just because the review was a bad one doesn't make it unbiased. It just makes the rose colored glasses you have on shine a little more red.
I am not commenting on the game or the review. I find it very unprofessional that Tasos posted that message. A developer attacking a reviewer (even if the reviewer is a complete idiot) and revealing information about an account is one of the worst thing a game developer can do. I do realize that much of what Tasos writes is correct, but it is not proper for a developer to do that. It would be like someone at Bethesda/Capcom (or whoever) saying the reviewer of at such and such is a idiot and a liar. That kinda just rubs me the wrong way as it comes off looking like a group of whiny little turds. A professional company that felt they were wronged by a reviewer would release a statement or post a message fixing the contradictions, but would not attack the reviewer and call them a liar. Post the corrections explain but do not give out account information to prove your point nor should you attack the reviewer. You would think that Tasos and everyone over there would have grown some tough skin do to the amount of dislike/hate this game get, but no they act like a little kid.
Its OK, just means no one else will review them. None of the large sites anyway.
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i never read eurogamer's reviews most of them are usually pretty poorly done. however i have never played darkfall so i cannot say how good it is or anything but the review is a little rediculous. who knows maybe the reviewer actually played the game. personally since ive read pretty bad articles from eurogamer im leaning more to tasos' side
Eurogamer is pure trash. That review was directly hateful, in addition to flawed.
I will never again read anything from them - and I am far from a DF fanboy (I have played the game, so I know what it is like, and that review was out to damage DF).
Careful parts of the sky may hit you, get your tinfoil hat out. . .
I have no reason to believe Tasos either, if he wants to prove that his game is not a pile then release free trials.
You sincerely don't know why they can't do that?
If they can't have open sale, how the hell do you think they could have free trial?
Yea, Tasos says "They had 2 hours across 13 sessions, and another only 3 minutes in-game". BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE TASOS SAYS HAS BEEN CREDIBLE AMIRITE?
A reason they might've not been able to play for so long is that the game is so terrible they couldn't stand to stay logged in for that long.
Then you are not a gamer, simple as that. DF's foundation is pretty stable and the combat is fun. That alone should keep you entertained for a while, even if you don't like the game.
I hated AoC with a passion, and I still gave it more of a chance than that reviewer did DF.
You sincerely don't know why they can't do that? If they can't have open sale, how the hell do you think they could have free trial?
What is your own estimate of your IQ?
I can think of many reasons they don't want a full-release.
1. They can't even handle one server, and don't have the team to support two.
2. The game is so bad, allowing it to be purchased by those with reminaing F5 keys would truly overrun the fanboi's spew of trash and the game would go down as history (quicker) as the worst MMO ever.
3. They don't have enough money because their product sucked. This is accompanied by the fact that Tasos is an complete idiot and lied repeatedly about how good his game is.
I am not commenting on the game or the review. I find it very unprofessional that Tasos posted that message. A developer attacking a reviewer (even if the reviewer is a complete idiot) and revealing information about an account is one of the worst thing a game developer can do. I do realize that much of what Tasos writes is correct, but it is not proper for a developer to do that. It would be like someone at Bethesda/Capcom (or whoever) saying the reviewer of at such and such is a idiot and a liar. That kinda just rubs me the wrong way as it comes off looking like a group of whiny little turds. A professional company that felt they were wronged by a reviewer would release a statement or post a message fixing the contradictions, but would not attack the reviewer and call them a liar. Post the corrections explain but do not give out account information to prove your point nor should you attack the reviewer. You would think that Tasos and everyone over there would have grown some tough skin do to the amount of dislike/hate this game get, but no they act like a little kid.
I completely disagree with you. The review was so poor and full of inaccuracies Tasos should sue 'em.
Eurogamer is pure trash. That review was directly hateful, in addition to flawed.
I will never again read anything from them - and I am far from a DF fanboy (I have played the game, so I know what it is like, and that review was out to damage DF).
Careful parts of the sky may hit you, get your tinfoil hat out. . .
I have no reason to believe Tasos either, if he wants to prove that his game is not a pile then release free trials.
You sincerely don't know why they can't do that?
If they can't have open sale, how the hell do you think they could have free trial?
What is your own estimate of your IQ?
What's the matter, can't come up with a proper insult?
Allow me to reiterate this for you, if he wants to prove that his game is not a pile then release free trials. I don't give two flying SHITS if they can or can't open free trials, if they want my money that's how they will get it. Do you understand now?
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Originally posted by Rasputin Then you are not a gamer, simple as that. DF's foundation is pretty stable and the combat is fun. That alone should keep you entertained for a while, even if you don't like the game.
No. I'm a hardcore gamer, I just stop looking at sh*t as soon as I smell it, not after I've stepped in it and eaten it.
I'm surprised nobody's said "QQ moar n00b" to Tasos
It's easy to see, simply from reading the article, that the review was biased and reviewer didn't spend much time in the game. Heck, I've been critical of the game and Aventurine, but I'm at least giving it a fair shot and I've spent a few hours roaming around, checking stuff out, have killed and been killed, etc... Do I think the game is great? No. Do I think it's the worst game evar made, ZOMGWTFBBQSAUCE? No. I think it was released before it was ready and that it needs a lot of work to be a good game, much less a great game. There are good and fun aspects, but the game itself isn't "good", much less great. Based on the descriptions of Eurogamer's scoring policy, I'd probably rate Darkfall a 5 (*)
Tasos refers to the other reviews being positive, or at least commending Aventurine for their efforts. What reviews? Has any other major gaming publication or gaming site official reviewed Darkfall? There have been player and blogger reviews, but I havent' seen any official reviews from paid professionals.
(*) Here's how Eurogamer defines a 5:
Five - good enough to survive?
Five is where you really start to fear for a game's quality. It's the score that says "don't buy it unless you're the sort of person who has to have all the games in a particular genre". It's a game that had the potential to be good, but simply ended up saddled with a catalogue of issues that the majority of gamers will not put up with. It's still playable, but the chances are it's so generic and uninspired that you begin to question how it was released in the first place.
A five won't be a disaster. In fact those who won't have played the better games in the genre might even get a great deal of enjoyment out of it. In a lot of cases scores come down to user expectations, but the standards games are built on are constantly shifting sands; what is ground breaking in one generation is the bare minimum standard a few years down the line, and things we once tolerated routinely can suddenly become very irritating. We hear regularly of games built to brutally tight deadlines, and compromises are inevitably made. Sometimes a key member of the team leaves midway through; sometimes it's just down to a lack of talent. But it's not bad as such, it just inspires little but the feeling you could do far better than consider picking up a five out of ten.
One thing to clear up is whether five is the "average". The law of averages suggests that a five should equate to the woolly notion of what an "average" game is worth. We all know this is rarely the case because it'd be very tough to play every single title in a particular genre to really have a true handle on what the average game actually is; and even then it's a subjective reasoning that's inherently flawed. With about 1,000 games being released every year it's a task of unreasonable magnitude to cover even half of them given the size of our team, but we do play a phenomenal number of games between us at EG (over 250 a year), and will attempt to play all the important games in any give field. The chances are, if it's not on Eurogamer there's a good reason why not. Either we're not sent the game, we don't have a person qualified to review it, or we've too many games to review at any one time, and thus have to deal with them in order of priority. But should five be the average? Yes, but it's not an exact science. We'll always try to position a five as our opinion of what an average game represents, but the more significant notion is that it's the score that tells you to approach with extreme caution.
I am not commenting on the game or the review. I find it very unprofessional that Tasos posted that message. A developer attacking a reviewer (even if the reviewer is a complete idiot) and revealing information about an account is one of the worst thing a game developer can do. I do realize that much of what Tasos writes is correct, but it is not proper for a developer to do that. It would be like someone at Bethesda/Capcom (or whoever) saying the reviewer of at such and such is a idiot and a liar. That kinda just rubs me the wrong way as it comes off looking like a group of whiny little turds. A professional company that felt they were wronged by a reviewer would release a statement or post a message fixing the contradictions, but would not attack the reviewer and call them a liar. Post the corrections explain but do not give out account information to prove your point nor should you attack the reviewer. You would think that Tasos and everyone over there would have grown some tough skin do to the amount of dislike/hate this game get, but no they act like a little kid.
They did just what you said: Released a statement and posted corrections. And then they provided proof.
Trash like Eurogamer deserves this. Maybe they learn to think the next time.
MMOs currently playing: - About to play: Lord of the Rings Online Played: Anarchy Online (alltime favorite) and lots of f2p titles (honorable mentions: 9Dragons, Martial Heroes, Dekaron, Atlantica Online)
I played DF from start to end of "free time" in the first month. Joined a large guild, went and PvP'd, crafted... and didn't resub. DF is definitely a niche game. That would be a small niche hidden somewhere right at the back of a warehouse just behind the mouldy sakcs of grain first dropped there during the 1st century A.D.
As a game it has it's good points but they, for me and in my own opinion having played the game quite a bit in that month, are outweighed by the bad. Give it another year or so in development and maybe it will be ok. I see they are focusing more on the PvE area of the game atm.
Originally posted by shukes33 Grind is not one of the downfalls of DF it is just a feature.
If that is the truth (about the playtime) it is obvious the reviewer is a fanboy of a certain game (most likely WOW) and decided to slam it. In that case Eurogamer has serious issues and absolutely needs to have someone unbiased re-review this here game.
Lol. A fanboy of Darkfall calling a hater a fanboy of World of Warcraft. Get over it, World of Warcraft had many genre-defining advancements to it.
Just because the review was a bad one doesn't make it unbiased. It just makes the rose colored glasses you have on shine a little more red.
Yes, and it had many genre-degrading features as well. And those the MMO world is just about to recover from now (after the hailstorm of failing WoW clones).
The reviewer had not even dragged a single power to the hotbar (see review screenshots). He barely played the game.
Well, sometimes you don't have to play game very long to figure out you are not going to like it. Unless you are retarded, it doesn't take too much time to identify something as good or bad FOR YOURSELF.
I don't buy this bullshit that you have to keep playing a game -- no matter how painful it is for you -- to get to the "good time". And what I also don't get is why anyone in their right mind would wade through a mess of technical problems in the hopes of the game getting better. That's like continuing to drive a car that breaks down daily just because your friends who own one tell you, "don't worry, it will get better the more you drive it.". At that point, do us all a favor and put a capital 'S' in front of 'tupid' and paste it to your forehead.
The one thing that MMOs today have forgotten: how to "hook" the player right out of the gate.
I am not commenting on the game or the review. I find it very unprofessional that Tasos posted that message. A developer attacking a reviewer (even if the reviewer is a complete idiot) and revealing information about an account is one of the worst thing a game developer can do. I do realize that much of what Tasos writes is correct, but it is not proper for a developer to do that. It would be like someone at Bethesda/Capcom (or whoever) saying the reviewer of at such and such is a idiot and a liar. That kinda just rubs me the wrong way as it comes off looking like a group of whiny little turds. A professional company that felt they were wronged by a reviewer would release a statement or post a message fixing the contradictions, but would not attack the reviewer and call them a liar. Post the corrections explain but do not give out account information to prove your point nor should you attack the reviewer. You would think that Tasos and everyone over there would have grown some tough skin do to the amount of dislike/hate this game get, but no they act like a little kid.
I completely disagree with you. The review was so poor and full of inaccuracies Tasos should sue 'em.
Eurogamer is pure trash. That review was directly hateful, in addition to flawed.
I will never again read anything from them - and I am far from a DF fanboy (I have played the game, so I know what it is like, and that review was out to damage DF).
You know what else is pure trash? directly hateful? and flawed?... darkfall
I am not commenting on the game or the review. I find it very unprofessional that Tasos posted that message. A developer attacking a reviewer (even if the reviewer is a complete idiot) and revealing information about an account is one of the worst thing a game developer can do. I do realize that much of what Tasos writes is correct, but it is not proper for a developer to do that. It would be like someone at Bethesda/Capcom (or whoever) saying the reviewer of at such and such is a idiot and a liar. That kinda just rubs me the wrong way as it comes off looking like a group of whiny little turds. A professional company that felt they were wronged by a reviewer would release a statement or post a message fixing the contradictions, but would not attack the reviewer and call them a liar. Post the corrections explain but do not give out account information to prove your point nor should you attack the reviewer. You would think that Tasos and everyone over there would have grown some tough skin do to the amount of dislike/hate this game get, but no they act like a little kid.
I completely disagree with you. The review was so poor and full of inaccuracies Tasos should sue 'em.
I'm taking this more from a PR point of view versus a legal standing. I'm not sure if you could even sue a "reviewer" hmm something interesting to look up lol. If they did file suit against EuroGamer or who ever, it would look really bad in the eyes a many gamers. I personally can't think of another time when a developer attacked a review from a "professional" game site, if anyone knows of one lemme know. It really is something unheard of and really makes Tasos and Co look really unprofessional, and damnit I want companies to at least act like have some sense of civility.
Yes, and it had many genre-degrading features as well. And those the MMO world is just about to recover from now (after the hailstorm of failing WoW clones).
Last time I checked those "failing" WoW clones have 20 or 30x the numbers your game does.
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It dosent matter how long they played. I played Vanguard for 5 minutes, and the game sucks.. plain and simple. I can tell by reviews, screen shots and videos on you tube, the community and the Darkfail Forums that this guy made an accurate write up of the game. The people with common sense, AKA: the trolls, do not need to play the pos game to know it sucks. It is a niche game, yes. But sadly it is a niche game for the socialy inept.
Careful parts of the sky may hit you, get your tinfoil hat out. . .
I have no reason to believe Tasos either, if he wants to prove that his game is not a pile then release free trials.
QFT.
Guys you do understand that they have more demand than server capacity?
They don't need a trial.
Whoever is playing the game is enjoying it.
Also read John Wood review (sort of) of Darkfall "The Conversion of a Self Proclaimed Carebear".
If you don't believe the fanboys and Tasos, you should believe a self confessed carebear whuich is also the owner of this site, so I believe he is fairly unbiased.
Aventurine are retarded in many level, distribution, planning and communication, but the game is great, and can only get better.
There is no way DF deserve a 2/10.
It is 10 times better than AoC, WAR and all this shit.
In your opinion to highlighted.
I understand that they cannot support more people, but until the day of free trials they will get none of my money. There isn't a shred of evidence that would convince me to fork out money for this game.
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I am not commenting on the game or the review.
I find it very unprofessional that Tasos posted that message. A developer attacking a reviewer (even if the reviewer is a complete idiot) and revealing information about an account is one of the worst thing a game developer can do. I do realize that much of what Tasos writes is correct, but it is not proper for a developer to do that. It would be like someone at Bethesda/Capcom (or whoever) saying the reviewer of at such and such is a idiot and a liar. That kinda just rubs me the wrong way as it comes off looking like a group of whiny little turds.
A professional company that felt they were wronged by a reviewer would release a statement or post a message fixing the contradictions, but would not attack the reviewer and call them a liar. Post the corrections explain but do not give out account information to prove your point nor should you attack the reviewer.
You would think that Tasos and everyone over there would have grown some tough skin do to the amount of dislike/hate this game get, but no they act like a little kid.
Careful parts of the sky may hit you, get your tinfoil hat out. . .
I have no reason to believe Tasos either, if he wants to prove that his game is not a pile then release free trials.
QFT.
Guys you do understand that they have more demand than server capacity?
They don't need a trial.
Whoever is playing the game is enjoying it.
Also read John Wood review (sort of) of Darkfall "The Conversion of a Self Proclaimed Carebear".
If you don't believe the fanboys and Tasos, you should believe a self confessed carebear whuich is also the owner of this site, so I believe he is fairly unbiased.
Aventurine are retarded in many level, distribution, planning and communication, but the game is great, and can only get better.
There is no way DF deserve a 2/10.
It is 10 times better than AoC, WAR and all this shit.
Eurogamer is just a shit site for allowing this reviw to be published.
I'm not even going to repeat myself to your silly points. I will just say that first, that's not a review, and second, John did not write it.
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Lol. A fanboy of Darkfall calling a hater a fanboy of World of Warcraft. Get over it, World of Warcraft had many genre-defining advancements to it.
Just because the review was a bad one doesn't make it unbiased. It just makes the rose colored glasses you have on shine a little more red.
He who keeps his cool best wins.
Its OK, just means no one else will review them. None of the large sites anyway.
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How are you?" -Me
i never read eurogamer's reviews most of them are usually pretty poorly done. however i have never played darkfall so i cannot say how good it is or anything but the review is a little rediculous. who knows maybe the reviewer actually played the game. personally since ive read pretty bad articles from eurogamer im leaning more to tasos' side
Careful parts of the sky may hit you, get your tinfoil hat out. . .
I have no reason to believe Tasos either, if he wants to prove that his game is not a pile then release free trials.
You sincerely don't know why they can't do that?
If they can't have open sale, how the hell do you think they could have free trial?
Tasos nerdraged.
LOL!
He who keeps his cool best wins.
Then you are not a gamer, simple as that. DF's foundation is pretty stable and the combat is fun. That alone should keep you entertained for a while, even if you don't like the game.
I hated AoC with a passion, and I still gave it more of a chance than that reviewer did DF.
I can think of many reasons they don't want a full-release.
1. They can't even handle one server, and don't have the team to support two.
2. The game is so bad, allowing it to be purchased by those with reminaing F5 keys would truly overrun the fanboi's spew of trash and the game would go down as history (quicker) as the worst MMO ever.
3. They don't have enough money because their product sucked. This is accompanied by the fact that Tasos is an complete idiot and lied repeatedly about how good his game is.
Probably more, but I'll be nice.
He who keeps his cool best wins.
I completely disagree with you. The review was so poor and full of inaccuracies Tasos should sue 'em.
Careful parts of the sky may hit you, get your tinfoil hat out. . .
I have no reason to believe Tasos either, if he wants to prove that his game is not a pile then release free trials.
You sincerely don't know why they can't do that?
If they can't have open sale, how the hell do you think they could have free trial?
What is your own estimate of your IQ?
What's the matter, can't come up with a proper insult?
Allow me to reiterate this for you, if he wants to prove that his game is not a pile then release free trials. I don't give two flying SHITS if they can or can't open free trials, if they want my money that's how they will get it. Do you understand now?
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No. I'm a hardcore gamer, I just stop looking at sh*t as soon as I smell it, not after I've stepped in it and eaten it.
Sandbox isn't sandy
He who keeps his cool best wins.
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(*) Here's how Eurogamer defines a 5:
Five - good enough to survive?
Five is where you really start to fear for a game's quality. It's the score that says "don't buy it unless you're the sort of person who has to have all the games in a particular genre". It's a game that had the potential to be good, but simply ended up saddled with a catalogue of issues that the majority of gamers will not put up with. It's still playable, but the chances are it's so generic and uninspired that you begin to question how it was released in the first place.
A five won't be a disaster. In fact those who won't have played the better games in the genre might even get a great deal of enjoyment out of it. In a lot of cases scores come down to user expectations, but the standards games are built on are constantly shifting sands; what is ground breaking in one generation is the bare minimum standard a few years down the line, and things we once tolerated routinely can suddenly become very irritating. We hear regularly of games built to brutally tight deadlines, and compromises are inevitably made. Sometimes a key member of the team leaves midway through; sometimes it's just down to a lack of talent. But it's not bad as such, it just inspires little but the feeling you could do far better than consider picking up a five out of ten.
One thing to clear up is whether five is the "average". The law of averages suggests that a five should equate to the woolly notion of what an "average" game is worth. We all know this is rarely the case because it'd be very tough to play every single title in a particular genre to really have a true handle on what the average game actually is; and even then it's a subjective reasoning that's inherently flawed. With about 1,000 games being released every year it's a task of unreasonable magnitude to cover even half of them given the size of our team, but we do play a phenomenal number of games between us at EG (over 250 a year), and will attempt to play all the important games in any give field. The chances are, if it's not on Eurogamer there's a good reason why not. Either we're not sent the game, we don't have a person qualified to review it, or we've too many games to review at any one time, and thus have to deal with them in order of priority. But should five be the average? Yes, but it's not an exact science. We'll always try to position a five as our opinion of what an average game represents, but the more significant notion is that it's the score that tells you to approach with extreme caution.
They did just what you said: Released a statement and posted corrections. And then they provided proof.
Trash like Eurogamer deserves this. Maybe they learn to think the next time.
QFT
what a bunch of carebears are those devs
MMOs currently playing: -
About to play: Lord of the Rings Online
Played: Anarchy Online (alltime favorite) and lots of f2p titles (honorable mentions: 9Dragons, Martial Heroes, Dekaron, Atlantica Online)
I played DF from start to end of "free time" in the first month. Joined a large guild, went and PvP'd, crafted... and didn't resub. DF is definitely a niche game. That would be a small niche hidden somewhere right at the back of a warehouse just behind the mouldy sakcs of grain first dropped there during the 1st century A.D.
As a game it has it's good points but they, for me and in my own opinion having played the game quite a bit in that month, are outweighed by the bad. Give it another year or so in development and maybe it will be ok. I see they are focusing more on the PvE area of the game atm.
Originally posted by shukes33
Grind is not one of the downfalls of DF it is just a feature.
Lol. A fanboy of Darkfall calling a hater a fanboy of World of Warcraft. Get over it, World of Warcraft had many genre-defining advancements to it.
Just because the review was a bad one doesn't make it unbiased. It just makes the rose colored glasses you have on shine a little more red.
Yes, and it had many genre-degrading features as well. And those the MMO world is just about to recover from now (after the hailstorm of failing WoW clones).
Well, sometimes you don't have to play game very long to figure out you are not going to like it. Unless you are retarded, it doesn't take too much time to identify something as good or bad FOR YOURSELF.
I don't buy this bullshit that you have to keep playing a game -- no matter how painful it is for you -- to get to the "good time". And what I also don't get is why anyone in their right mind would wade through a mess of technical problems in the hopes of the game getting better. That's like continuing to drive a car that breaks down daily just because your friends who own one tell you, "don't worry, it will get better the more you drive it.". At that point, do us all a favor and put a capital 'S' in front of 'tupid' and paste it to your forehead.
The one thing that MMOs today have forgotten: how to "hook" the player right out of the gate.
I completely disagree with you. The review was so poor and full of inaccuracies Tasos should sue 'em.
what inaccuracies?
You know what else is pure trash? directly hateful? and flawed?... darkfall
I completely disagree with you. The review was so poor and full of inaccuracies Tasos should sue 'em.
I'm taking this more from a PR point of view versus a legal standing. I'm not sure if you could even sue a "reviewer" hmm something interesting to look up lol. If they did file suit against EuroGamer or who ever, it would look really bad in the eyes a many gamers. I personally can't think of another time when a developer attacked a review from a "professional" game site, if anyone knows of one lemme know. It really is something unheard of and really makes Tasos and Co look really unprofessional, and damnit I want companies to at least act like have some sense of civility.
Last time I checked those "failing" WoW clones have 20 or 30x the numbers your game does.
Darkfall is a goner.
He who keeps his cool best wins.