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Tasos officially declines offer of re-review from Eurogamer

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  • oddjobs74oddjobs74 Member Posts: 526
    Originally posted by Galadourn

    Originally posted by oddjobs74

    Originally posted by Ruyn


    Awesome.  Once again Tasos owns Ed Zitron.  Now we can all go back to enjoying the game.  Well that is the 10% that frequent this poor excuse of a forum that actually play.



     

    Explain how Tasos owns anything other than bills he cant pay..

     

    There are mental midgets bigger than you.

    you totally missed the sarcasm there...or not?



     

    Nah that guy is 1 of Tasos' alter boys

  • mackdawg19mackdawg19 Member UncommonPosts: 842
    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by luckturtz


     
     
    This first game i have seen beg for review.All DF has to do open NA server.Then 1 up,ign,gamespot,etc will review the game.If the game is good then people will see the hachet job eurogamer did.
    This has only happen because DF has stupid limited launch plan.Screw by their own failure to launch.
    Eurogamers are the only game reviewers in the world.
     
     
     

     

    What uninformed bollocks.  Eve has its servers in London and does fine in the North American market. 

     

    Heh, kind of a funny here. Did you read what you quoted? It has nothing to do with what you just stated. =)

  • AbrahmmAbrahmm Member Posts: 2,448

    Tasos is completely in the right on this one. They didn't play the game but felt the need to review it anyway(which is what so many idiots on this site do), which is completely wrong.

    Fact is a lot of you morons would rip on Darkfall and Aventurine for anything that happens to it. No matter what Tasos said or did in this situation, the same people would be spouting something negative about it, no matter what it was. Sad really.

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  • FunkyLasagneFunkyLasagne Member Posts: 339
    Originally posted by mackdawg19

    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by luckturtz


     
     
    This first game i have seen beg for review.All DF has to do open NA server.Then 1 up,ign,gamespot,etc will review the game.If the game is good then people will see the hachet job eurogamer did.
    This has only happen because DF has stupid limited launch plan.Screw by their own failure to launch.
    Eurogamers are the only game reviewers in the world.
     
     
     

     

    What uninformed bollocks.  Eve has its servers in London and does fine in the North American market. 

     

    Heh, kind of a funny here. Did you read what you quoted? It has nothing to do with what you just stated. =)

     

    Doesn't it?  I interpreted the bit I've highlighted in the incrasingly infamous yellow as saying no North American server = no interest from North America.  How should have I interpreted it

  • luckturtzluckturtz Member Posts: 422
    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by luckturtz


     
     
    This first game i have seen beg for review.All DF has to do open NA server.Then 1 up,ign,gamespot,etc will review the game.If the game is good then people will see the hachet job eurogamer did.
    This has only happen because DF has stupid limited launch plan.Screw by their own failure to launch.
    Eurogamers are the only game reviewers in the world.
     
     
     

     

    What uninformed bollocks.  Eve has its servers in London and does fine in the North American market. 



     

    Since when has one review ever hurt a game.Unless it only review out.Why is it only major review out.Because DF only has one Europe server and some sort limited release schdule.

    No major Us gaming press has review it yet and has been launched for at least a month.Ask why ign and 1 up has not review df yet.

  • FunkyLasagneFunkyLasagne Member Posts: 339
    Originally posted by Abrahmm


    Tasos is completely in the right on this one. They didn't play the game but felt the need to review it anyway(which is what so many idiots on this site do), which is completely wrong.
    Fact is a lot of you morons would rip on Darkfall and Aventurine for anything that happens to it. No matter what Tasos said or did in this situation, the same people would be spouting something negative about it, no matter what it was. Sad really.

     

    If he hadn't had said anything, this would have blown over a day ago.

  • FunkyLasagneFunkyLasagne Member Posts: 339
    Originally posted by luckturtz 
    Since when has one review ever hurt a game.Unless it only review out.Why is it only major review out.Because DF only has one Europe server and some sort limited release schdule.
    No major Us gaming press has review it yet and has been launched for at least a month.Ask why ign and 1 up has not review df yet.

    Because it's incredibly niche and a bit shit?  There are plenty of such games that those sites haven't reviewed.  To suggest that those sites don't review the game simply because of the location of the server is idiotic.

  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615
    Originally posted by luckturtz

    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by luckturtz


     
     
    This first game i have seen beg for review.All DF has to do open NA server.Then 1 up,ign,gamespot,etc will review the game.If the game is good then people will see the hachet job eurogamer did.
    This has only happen because DF has stupid limited launch plan.Screw by their own failure to launch.
    Eurogamers are the only game reviewers in the world.
     
     
     

     

    What uninformed bollocks.  Eve has its servers in London and does fine in the North American market. 



     

    Since when has one review ever hurt a game.Unless it only review out.Why is it only major review out.Because DF only has one Europe server and some sort limited release schdule.

    No major Us gaming press has review it yet and has been launched for at least a month.Ask why ign and 1 up has not review df yet.

    Most likely because 1) no one but MMORPG.com cares 2) They refuse to give out keys for other sites to review the game, because they know what will happen.

     

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  • AbrahmmAbrahmm Member Posts: 2,448
    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by Abrahmm


    Tasos is completely in the right on this one. They didn't play the game but felt the need to review it anyway(which is what so many idiots on this site do), which is completely wrong.
    Fact is a lot of you morons would rip on Darkfall and Aventurine for anything that happens to it. No matter what Tasos said or did in this situation, the same people would be spouting something negative about it, no matter what it was. Sad really.

     

    If he hadn't had said anything, this would have blown over a day ago.

    Sorry, but if someone completely bashed a product I had made(or the company I worked for made) without ever using it, I would damn sure defend myself/product too. Since Tasos is the community manager/PR guy, it's really his job to publicly do so.

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  • IzureIzure Member Posts: 518

    What do you expect when he gets reviewed by a professional site, who lies and sends a amateur to review a game and totally lie and not even give it a good try.

     

    This review was bullshit for the most party 80% of it was.



    The rest is true, but as of right now I would give them graphics a fairly low score(not too bad) but gameplay performance and fun a high one.

  • FunkyLasagneFunkyLasagne Member Posts: 339
    Originally posted by Abrahmm

    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by Abrahmm


    Tasos is completely in the right on this one. They didn't play the game but felt the need to review it anyway(which is what so many idiots on this site do), which is completely wrong.
    Fact is a lot of you morons would rip on Darkfall and Aventurine for anything that happens to it. No matter what Tasos said or did in this situation, the same people would be spouting something negative about it, no matter what it was. Sad really.

     

    If he hadn't had said anything, this would have blown over a day ago.

    Sorry, but if someone completely bashed a product I had made(or the company I worked for made) without ever using it, I would damn sure defend myself/product too. Since Tasos is the community manager/PR guy, it's really his job to publicly do so.

     

    He's a bit rubbish at his job then as he's made the situation about 100 times worse

  • luckturtzluckturtz Member Posts: 422
    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by mackdawg19

    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by luckturtz


     
     
    This first game i have seen beg for review.All DF has to do open NA server.Then 1 up,ign,gamespot,etc will review the game.If the game is good then people will see the hachet job eurogamer did.
    This has only happen because DF has stupid limited launch plan.Screw by their own failure to launch.
    Eurogamers are the only game reviewers in the world.
     
     
     

     

    What uninformed bollocks.  Eve has its servers in London and does fine in the North American market. 

     

    Heh, kind of a funny here. Did you read what you quoted? It has nothing to do with what you just stated. =)

     

    Doesn't it?  I interpreted the bit I've highlighted in the incrasingly infamous yellow as saying no North American server = no interest from North America.  How should have I interpreted it



     

    You can only review game that has launched.How you can review game then players can't  play the game.

  • IzureIzure Member Posts: 518
    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by luckturtz

    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by luckturtz


     
     
    This first game i have seen beg for review.All DF has to do open NA server.Then 1 up,ign,gamespot,etc will review the game.If the game is good then people will see the hachet job eurogamer did.
    This has only happen because DF has stupid limited launch plan.Screw by their own failure to launch.
    Eurogamers are the only game reviewers in the world.
     
     
     

     

    What uninformed bollocks.  Eve has its servers in London and does fine in the North American market. 



     

    Since when has one review ever hurt a game.Unless it only review out.Why is it only major review out.Because DF only has one Europe server and some sort limited release schdule.

    No major Us gaming press has review it yet and has been launched for at least a month.Ask why ign and 1 up has not review df yet.

    Most likely because 1) no one but MMORPG.com cares 2) They refuse to give out keys for other sites to review the game, because they know what will happen.

     

     

    Mr know it all who hasnt even played the game, I love kids like you.

    Is that why all the reviews while they were in the official BETA got all good reports?

    Ok keep guessing you stating opinion as facts are hilarious, your parents should be proud, you are like BUSH.

  • oddjobs74oddjobs74 Member Posts: 526
    Originally posted by Abrahmm


    Tasos is completely in the right on this one. They didn't play the game but felt the need to review it anyway(which is what so many idiots on this site do), which is completely wrong.
    Fact is a lot of you morons would rip on Darkfall and Aventurine for anything that happens to it. No matter what Tasos said or did in this situation, the same people would be spouting something negative about it, no matter what it was. Sad really.

    You are uninformed. If you could focus for a minute please and tell me which position Tasos and cult are going to take now.. So far the time frames you guys have presented is:

    did not play

    1hour

    2 1/3 hours

    3 hours.

    In reality the man played 9.

    The only thing Tasos is right on is "guys we have no money to pay bills and we can use this as an excuse to pull the plug and cut our losses. We can do this by creating a shit storm and say this guy ruined out business with this 1, I'll say again, ONE review."

  • AbrahmmAbrahmm Member Posts: 2,448
    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by Abrahmm

    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by Abrahmm


    Tasos is completely in the right on this one. They didn't play the game but felt the need to review it anyway(which is what so many idiots on this site do), which is completely wrong.
    Fact is a lot of you morons would rip on Darkfall and Aventurine for anything that happens to it. No matter what Tasos said or did in this situation, the same people would be spouting something negative about it, no matter what it was. Sad really.

     

    If he hadn't had said anything, this would have blown over a day ago.

    Sorry, but if someone completely bashed a product I had made(or the company I worked for made) without ever using it, I would damn sure defend myself/product too. Since Tasos is the community manager/PR guy, it's really his job to publicly do so.

     

    He's a bit rubbish at his job then as he's made the situation about 100 times worse

     

    How has he made it worse? The only way it is worse is because people like you feel the need to take everything he says, pick it apart to the smallest degree, and bash him for saying it. Seriously, if you haven't played the game, and have no intentions to, than stop worrying about it and stop talking about it.

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  • oddjobs74oddjobs74 Member Posts: 526
    Originally posted by Izure

    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by luckturtz

    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by luckturtz


     
     
    This first game i have seen beg for review.All DF has to do open NA server.Then 1 up,ign,gamespot,etc will review the game.If the game is good then people will see the hachet job eurogamer did.
    This has only happen because DF has stupid limited launch plan.Screw by their own failure to launch.
    Eurogamers are the only game reviewers in the world.
     
     
     

     

    What uninformed bollocks.  Eve has its servers in London and does fine in the North American market. 



     

    Since when has one review ever hurt a game.Unless it only review out.Why is it only major review out.Because DF only has one Europe server and some sort limited release schdule.

    No major Us gaming press has review it yet and has been launched for at least a month.Ask why ign and 1 up has not review df yet.

    Most likely because 1) no one but MMORPG.com cares 2) They refuse to give out keys for other sites to review the game, because they know what will happen.

     

     

    Mr know it all who hasnt even played the game, I love kids like you.

    Is that why all the reviews while they were in the official BETA got all good reports?

    Ok keep guessing you stating opinion as facts are hilarious, your parents should be proud, you are like BUSH.

    so who is the kid here?

     

    For a child who has to look up at the adult he is talking down to...

    If there are all these good reviews, then why are all of you cult members throwing a temper tantantrum over 1 bad review?

    You are like obama. moron

  • RoinRoin Member RarePosts: 3,444
    Originally posted by Abrahmm

    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by Abrahmm


    Tasos is completely in the right on this one. They didn't play the game but felt the need to review it anyway(which is what so many idiots on this site do), which is completely wrong.
    Fact is a lot of you morons would rip on Darkfall and Aventurine for anything that happens to it. No matter what Tasos said or did in this situation, the same people would be spouting something negative about it, no matter what it was. Sad really.

     

    If he hadn't had said anything, this would have blown over a day ago.

    Sorry, but if someone completely bashed a product I had made(or the company I worked for made) without ever using it, I would damn sure defend myself/product too. Since Tasos is the community manager/PR guy, it's really his job to publicly do so.

     

    Two wrongs do not make a right.  If you felt someone wronged your product.  Exactly what good does throwing a tantrum, nerd raging, or whatever you want to call it.  How does that exactly help your case?  If you had any faith at all in your product.  You would be professional about it.  You would talk to the people in charge, try to convince them to retract the article.  You don't put them on blast calling them a liar or berating them on your personals forums.  That makes you JUST as bad if not even worse then the person you felt wronged you.

    If you are going to play with the big boys, you need to be prepared to act like a big boy.  This non-sense of playing the victim, is just utterly stupid.  Grow a pair, and be the bigger man, and learn when to walk away, and do stuff through proper channels.

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  • DarkPonyDarkPony Member Posts: 5,566

    *ponders*

    The more I think about Tasos' latest lengthy contribution the more I get this creepy feeling that he is trying to put the blame for something else somewhere where it doesn't belong.

    I do believe that the review was conducted badly and its conclusions ARE unfair, but the way T reacts now suggests there is a much deeper problem AV is facing at this moment. He really shouldn't have to overshoot like that.

    Just keep it simple and stick to the facts and (most of) the crowd would have continued cheering. The whole "murdered innocence" role with doom prophecies about how his game is suffering over this is a little suspicious. I do hope for the players AV isn't pulling the plug in the near future and try to put the blame for their own shortcomings on an obviously weak excuse for a review to save what little is left of their credibility.

    /tinfoil hat off

  • mackdawg19mackdawg19 Member UncommonPosts: 842
    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by mackdawg19

    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by luckturtz


     
     
    This first game i have seen beg for review.All DF has to do open NA server.Then 1 up,ign,gamespot,etc will review the game.If the game is good then people will see the hachet job eurogamer did.
    This has only happen because DF has stupid limited launch plan.Screw by their own failure to launch.
    Eurogamers are the only game reviewers in the world.
     
     
     

     

    What uninformed bollocks.  Eve has its servers in London and does fine in the North American market. 

     

    Heh, kind of a funny here. Did you read what you quoted? It has nothing to do with what you just stated. =)

     

    Doesn't it?  I interpreted the bit I've highlighted in the incrasingly infamous yellow as saying no North American server = no interest from North America.  How should have I interpreted it

     

    He stated they need to open a North American server, which you clearly over looked yet again. Then highlighted to show you over looked it. See where it says open a NA server. This should be obvious, but apparently you like to add words, like not or no.

  • luckturtzluckturtz Member Posts: 422
    Originally posted by Izure

    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by luckturtz

    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by luckturtz


     
     
    This first game i have seen beg for review.All DF has to do open NA server.Then 1 up,ign,gamespot,etc will review the game.If the game is good then people will see the hachet job eurogamer did.
    This has only happen because DF has stupid limited launch plan.Screw by their own failure to launch.
    Eurogamers are the only game reviewers in the world.
     
     
     

     

    What uninformed bollocks.  Eve has its servers in London and does fine in the North American market. 



     

    Since when has one review ever hurt a game.Unless it only review out.Why is it only major review out.Because DF only has one Europe server and some sort limited release schdule.

    No major Us gaming press has review it yet and has been launched for at least a month.Ask why ign and 1 up has not review df yet.

    Most likely because 1) no one but MMORPG.com cares 2) They refuse to give out keys for other sites to review the game, because they know what will happen.

     

     

    Mr know it all who hasnt even played the game, I love kids like you.

    Is that why all the reviews while they were in the official BETA got all good reports?

    Ok keep guessing you stating opinion as facts are hilarious, your parents should be proud, you are like BUSH.



     

    A. I have the game.i waited for weeks to for a shot to play the game for myself

    B. I have stated my opinion why one stupid review is big deal.

  • FunkyLasagneFunkyLasagne Member Posts: 339
    Originally posted by Abrahmm
     
    How has he made it worse? The only way it is worse is because people like you feel the need to take everything he says, pick it apart to the smallest degree, and bash him for saying it. Seriously, if you haven't played the game, and have no intentions to, than stop worrying about it and stop talking about it.

     

    How has he made it worse??  Well that's blatently obvious isn't it.  If he had kept his communications with EG private then this would have blown over yesterday.  As it is it will ebb and flow depending on when EG get their second review out - all the time more and more people are becoming aware of the situation, and regardless of their thoughts on the review, they are cringing at the way he has handled himself.  Totally and uttery unprofessional and appalling at his job.  For someone who is in charge with PR why is he acting like your typically fanboy?  Sad - very sad.

  • FunkyLasagneFunkyLasagne Member Posts: 339
    Originally posted by mackdawg19

    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by mackdawg19

    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by luckturtz


     
     
    This first game i have seen beg for review.All DF has to do open NA server.Then 1 up,ign,gamespot,etc will review the game.If the game is good then people will see the hachet job eurogamer did.
    This has only happen because DF has stupid limited launch plan.Screw by their own failure to launch.
    Eurogamers are the only game reviewers in the world.
     
     
     

     

    What uninformed bollocks.  Eve has its servers in London and does fine in the North American market. 

     

    Heh, kind of a funny here. Did you read what you quoted? It has nothing to do with what you just stated. =)

     

    Doesn't it?  I interpreted the bit I've highlighted in the incrasingly infamous yellow as saying no North American server = no interest from North America.  How should have I interpreted it

     

    He stated they need to open a North American server, which you clearly over looked yet again. Then highlighted to show you over looked it. See where it says open a NA server. This should be obvious, but apparently you like to add words, like not or no.

     

    Erm you do know it was me that highlighted the text right?  You're funny.  Carry on.

  • LidaneLidane Member CommonPosts: 2,300
    Originally posted by Abrahmm


    How has he made it worse?

    By crying about a bad (or unfair, depending on your POV) review like a child who didn't get what they wanted. That's how.

    A REAL game developer looks at a bad or unfair review and either chalks it up to that review being one guy's opinion, or they handle any disputes QUIETLY between them and whoever the reviewer is. Multiple walls of nerdrage text crying about the unfairness of it all just makes him look petty and immature. He could have handled this so much better. Instead, he chose to go the whiny, drama queen route.

    Not to say that all of this hasn't been entertaining. It's hilarious. But it really doesn't make AV look all that good in the end.

  • oddjobs74oddjobs74 Member Posts: 526
    Originally posted by DarkPony


    *ponders*
    The more I think about Tasos' latest lengthy contribution the more I get this creepy feeling that he is trying to put the blame for something else somewhere where it doesn't belong.
    I do believe that the review was conducted badly and its conclusions ARE unfair, but the way T reacts now suggests there is a much deeper problem AV is facing at this moment. He really shouldn't have to overshoot like that.
    Just keep it simple and stick to the facts and (most of) the crowd would have continued cheering. The whole "murdered innocence" role with doom prophecies about how his game is suffering over this is a little suspicious. I do hope for the players AV isn't pulling the plug in the near future and try to put the blame for their own shortcomings on an obviously weak excuse for a review to save what little is left from their credibility.
    /tinfoil hat off



     

    Lets say the review was unfair or in any way shape or  form wrong, its one lousy review.. get over it.. There is not a company on this Earth that does not have a single bad thing said about, and yet they prosper, and you don't see nerd rage like this. Look up KB Homes..they are the Darkfail of home builders yet they do billions a year.

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655
    Originally posted by luckturtz

    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by mackdawg19

    Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

    Originally posted by luckturtz


     
     
    This first game i have seen beg for review.All DF has to do open NA server.Then 1 up,ign,gamespot,etc will review the game.If the game is good then people will see the hachet job eurogamer did.
    This has only happen because DF has stupid limited launch plan.Screw by their own failure to launch.
    Eurogamers are the only game reviewers in the world.
     
     
     

     

    What uninformed bollocks.  Eve has its servers in London and does fine in the North American market. 

     

    Heh, kind of a funny here. Did you read what you quoted? It has nothing to do with what you just stated. =)

     

    Doesn't it?  I interpreted the bit I've highlighted in the incrasingly infamous yellow as saying no North American server = no interest from North America.  How should have I interpreted it



     

    You can only review game that has launched.How you can review game then players can't  play the game.

     

    The real question is why did they BOTHER to review a game that you can't even get a copy of if you wanted to?

    What a waste of time with a predictable result, Tsaos responded like a child and showed everyone once again how amature he really is.

    I like how people are debating the validity of an opinion, since that topic really will get you anywhere.

    They should not even have bothered to review a game that only 10,000 people play, should have at least waited until they had another server up or maybe for a year after review.

    Now if only everyone could agree that this game isn't complete, sure it can be fun for those of us who are PvP fanatics and there is no other game really like this when it comes to PvP freedom.  That does not give them an excuse as to why they did such a poor job making it what it is.

    Just because its the only one of its kind doesn't give it an excuse to be bad.

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