Come on guys! Quests, multiple endings, Henchmen, Each class starting on it's own planet? This isnt a MMO. I'll be honest I really don't want it to be, I'm looking forward to a Single player RPG to kill all other single player RPG but to toss in MMO elements like global chat, Auction houses and crafting. Maybe some Instanced storyline pvp also (like massive battles think AV in WoW) This game is so heavy on the storyline that its going to run on rails even worse then the most hardcore themepark games. I'm saying it now when this game releases its going to be a smashing success but the people on this forum won't consider it a MMO just like they do for Guildwars. There's nothing wrong with a Crpg imo, we need a new one to play tbh. Havent had a nice one since GW released what five years ago. If you don't think its going to be a heavily main player focused storyline like a SP rpg just wait. Ill be Necroing this post when the game releases just to tell you how much fun im having and how glad I am that we have a new awesome game to play.
From what I have read on the official forums and various articles etc they are not making your conventional MMORPG, it is just going to be KOTOR on a bigger scale and based online (thats my opinion). That's why you shouldn't expect this game to be something it won't be. I admit I am disappointed that they aren't making a full blown sand boxed MMORPG; however that being said the original KOTOR was a fantastic game purely because of the story lines and polish and thats all I expect from SWTOR a game with great stories and polish. A common mistake people make (I am guilty of this also) is that they compare newer games to previous games which they loved to play for example SWG which had its bad points and also good points but SWG is SWG and SWTOR will be SWTOR weather you can call it a MMORPG is one thing but it will be Massively Multiplayer and Online but may not strictly fall in to the RPG category.
BioWare can make it KOTOR with a online feature but what I don't like is a monthly fee and on top of that micro transactions and you will have to pay for additional content that they add after launch.
Booh, BioWare, booh!
... seriously.... my god....
Honey, this game hasn't even come close to release. The only things we know about it are two of the classes and THATS IT. What the hell are you talking about?
You don't know ANYTHING about what the game will be. It will probably be years before its released.
So please... be a little more reasonable, huh? Just because you're one of the doom and gloom sayers ALREADY doesn't make you right. How about we find out more than a few images, two classes, and the announcement that its Bioware before you decide that this game is going to be horrible and will bomb?
If you keep this up, we'll be forced to think you're just a troll.
Come on guys! Quests, multiple endings, Henchmen, Each class starting on it's own planet? This isnt a MMO. I'll be honest I really don't want it to be, I'm looking forward to a Single player RPG to kill all other single player RPG but to toss in MMO elements like global chat, Auction houses and crafting. Maybe some Instanced storyline pvp also (like massive battles think AV in WoW) This game is so heavy on the storyline that its going to run on rails even worse then the most hardcore themepark games. I'm saying it now when this game releases its going to be a smashing success but the people on this forum won't consider it a MMO just like they do for Guildwars. There's nothing wrong with a Crpg imo, we need a new one to play tbh. Havent had a nice one since GW released what five years ago. If you don't think its going to be a heavily main player focused storyline like a SP rpg just wait. Ill be Necroing this post when the game releases just to tell you how much fun im having and how glad I am that we have a new awesome game to play.
From what I have read on the official forums and various articles etc they are not making your conventional MMORPG, it is just going to be KOTOR on a bigger scale and based online (thats my opinion). That's why you shouldn't expect this game to be something it won't be. I admit I am disappointed that they aren't making a full blown sand boxed MMORPG; however that being said the original KOTOR was a fantastic game purely because of the story lines and polish and thats all I expect from SWTOR a game with great stories and polish. A common mistake people make (I am guilty of this also) is that they compare newer games to previous games which they loved to play for example SWG which had its bad points and also good points but SWG is SWG and SWTOR will be SWTOR weather you can call it a MMORPG is one thing but it will be Massively Multiplayer and Online but may not strictly fall in to the RPG category.
BioWare can make it KOTOR with a online feature but what I don't like is a monthly fee and on top of that micro transactions and you will have to pay for additional content that they add after launch.
Booh, BioWare, booh!
... seriously.... my god....
Honey, this game hasn't even come close to release. The only things we know about it are two of the classes and THATS IT. What the hell are you talking about?
You don't know ANYTHING about what the game will be. It will probably be years before its released.
So please... be a little more reasonable, huh? Just because you're one of the doom and gloom sayers ALREADY doesn't make you right. How about we find out more than a few images, two classes, and the announcement that its Bioware before you decide that this game is going to be horrible and will bomb?
If you keep this up, we'll be forced to think you're just a troll.
I certainly do.
And... it will be launched this year if they don't dilly-dally too much.
If I may... "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts." Sherlock Holmes
A Scandal in Bohemia
*claps* Exactly. And I seriously doubt it will be launched this year. They just made the announcement of the existance of the game a few months ago. Online games don't work the same as other games and they often announce them years in advance to build anticipation.
If I may... "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts." Sherlock Holmes
A Scandal in Bohemia
*claps* Exactly. And I seriously doubt it will be launched this year. They just made the announcement of the existance of the game a few months ago. Online games don't work the same as other games and they often announce them years in advance to build anticipation.
I seem to be talking to deaf ears... or as it is in this case... blind eyes and closed minds.
It's your loss and I don't want to see you two whine on the internet how you were fooled, tricked or cheated afterwards.
As long as I'm not stuck in a solo instance for the majority of the game I consider it an MMO. Massive (to me) meaning the size of the world, and the amount of players. It obviously qualifies for the massive part. It's multiplayer, because it's online, so the whole "MMO" part is taken care of. And then it seems to be an RPG, so what do we have here? A MMORPG.
I wish to affiliate my self with this sentiment. It is exactly as I see it and so well put that I have nothing else to add.
Originally posted by Jefferson81 I seem to be talking to deaf ears... or as it is in this case... blind eyes and closed minds.
Sorry, but given that you've already formed an opinion on the nature of the game despite having zero solid information to back that opinion up; you might want to reconsider whose mind is closed.
An open-minded person would recognise that we have insufficient information to form any real opinion or have a clear idea of what the game will be like. We can guess, we can theorise, but to present those theories as fact is at best premature.
Playing: EVE, Final Fantasy 13, Uncharted 2, Need for Speed: Shift
Frankly, I dont think they know yet themselves. A lot will depend on how features work out, and what they have to cut in order to meet their deadlines. At this point in the development process, they still promise features and work on stuff that will never make it into the final game. Its quite likely not even all classes are going to be in at release, much less all features.
So yes, MAYBE we get NPC followrs, MAYBE we get a storyline with choice, MAYBE we get tons of sith and jedi running around, but IMO, I think at least HALF of what we see and read right now, and know about, will not be in the game at release, and probably never going to be in it, simply because that is how MMOs work.
I never considered StarWars to be an open world because if you watched all the movies each the action scenes were always in some secluded area of the world. You never really got to see the entire world as a whole.
never liked Bioshock but NWN was an awesome game. It doesn't really matter if the games an mmo or now all that matters is if its true to the franchise and provides the consumer with hours and hours of fun filled gameplay which bioware is relatively good at.
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From what I have read on the official forums and various articles etc they are not making your conventional MMORPG, it is just going to be KOTOR on a bigger scale and based online (thats my opinion). That's why you shouldn't expect this game to be something it won't be. I admit I am disappointed that they aren't making a full blown sand boxed MMORPG; however that being said the original KOTOR was a fantastic game purely because of the story lines and polish and thats all I expect from SWTOR a game with great stories and polish. A common mistake people make (I am guilty of this also) is that they compare newer games to previous games which they loved to play for example SWG which had its bad points and also good points but SWG is SWG and SWTOR will be SWTOR weather you can call it a MMORPG is one thing but it will be Massively Multiplayer and Online but may not strictly fall in to the RPG category.
BioWare can make it KOTOR with a online feature but what I don't like is a monthly fee and on top of that micro transactions and you will have to pay for additional content that they add after launch.
Booh, BioWare, booh!
... seriously.... my god....
Honey, this game hasn't even come close to release. The only things we know about it are two of the classes and THATS IT. What the hell are you talking about?
You don't know ANYTHING about what the game will be. It will probably be years before its released.
So please... be a little more reasonable, huh? Just because you're one of the doom and gloom sayers ALREADY doesn't make you right. How about we find out more than a few images, two classes, and the announcement that its Bioware before you decide that this game is going to be horrible and will bomb?
If you keep this up, we'll be forced to think you're just a troll.
From what I have read on the official forums and various articles etc they are not making your conventional MMORPG, it is just going to be KOTOR on a bigger scale and based online (thats my opinion). That's why you shouldn't expect this game to be something it won't be. I admit I am disappointed that they aren't making a full blown sand boxed MMORPG; however that being said the original KOTOR was a fantastic game purely because of the story lines and polish and thats all I expect from SWTOR a game with great stories and polish. A common mistake people make (I am guilty of this also) is that they compare newer games to previous games which they loved to play for example SWG which had its bad points and also good points but SWG is SWG and SWTOR will be SWTOR weather you can call it a MMORPG is one thing but it will be Massively Multiplayer and Online but may not strictly fall in to the RPG category.
BioWare can make it KOTOR with a online feature but what I don't like is a monthly fee and on top of that micro transactions and you will have to pay for additional content that they add after launch.
Booh, BioWare, booh!
... seriously.... my god....
Honey, this game hasn't even come close to release. The only things we know about it are two of the classes and THATS IT. What the hell are you talking about?
You don't know ANYTHING about what the game will be. It will probably be years before its released.
So please... be a little more reasonable, huh? Just because you're one of the doom and gloom sayers ALREADY doesn't make you right. How about we find out more than a few images, two classes, and the announcement that its Bioware before you decide that this game is going to be horrible and will bomb?
If you keep this up, we'll be forced to think you're just a troll.
I certainly do.
And... it will be launched this year if they don't dilly-dally too much.
If I may...
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."
Sherlock Holmes
A Scandal in Bohemia
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
*claps* Exactly. And I seriously doubt it will be launched this year. They just made the announcement of the existance of the game a few months ago. Online games don't work the same as other games and they often announce them years in advance to build anticipation.
*claps* Exactly. And I seriously doubt it will be launched this year. They just made the announcement of the existance of the game a few months ago. Online games don't work the same as other games and they often announce them years in advance to build anticipation.
I seem to be talking to deaf ears... or as it is in this case... blind eyes and closed minds.
It's your loss and I don't want to see you two whine on the internet how you were fooled, tricked or cheated afterwards.
I wish to affiliate my self with this sentiment. It is exactly as I see it and so well put that I have nothing else to add.
Sorry, but given that you've already formed an opinion on the nature of the game despite having zero solid information to back that opinion up; you might want to reconsider whose mind is closed.
An open-minded person would recognise that we have insufficient information to form any real opinion or have a clear idea of what the game will be like. We can guess, we can theorise, but to present those theories as fact is at best premature.
Playing: EVE, Final Fantasy 13, Uncharted 2, Need for Speed: Shift
Frankly, I dont think they know yet themselves. A lot will depend on how features work out, and what they have to cut in order to meet their deadlines. At this point in the development process, they still promise features and work on stuff that will never make it into the final game. Its quite likely not even all classes are going to be in at release, much less all features.
So yes, MAYBE we get NPC followrs, MAYBE we get a storyline with choice, MAYBE we get tons of sith and jedi running around, but IMO, I think at least HALF of what we see and read right now, and know about, will not be in the game at release, and probably never going to be in it, simply because that is how MMOs work.
I never considered StarWars to be an open world because if you watched all the movies each the action scenes were always in some secluded area of the world. You never really got to see the entire world as a whole.
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never liked Bioshock but NWN was an awesome game. It doesn't really matter if the games an mmo or now all that matters is if its true to the franchise and provides the consumer with hours and hours of fun filled gameplay which bioware is relatively good at.
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