Actually mr wannabe pirate i dont troll, i just typically respond to stupidity. hence this message. Are you wearing your pirate hat right now? ARRRR Billy !!
Actually mr wannabe pirate i dont troll, i just typically respond to stupidity. hence this message. Are you wearing your pirate hat right now? ARRRR Billy !!
Yes, it was rather stupid of you to troll an RMT bot, but don't beat yourself up about it.
Every game that doesn't deliver at least some of these newer Wow concepts will not break any records at all. In fact it will be the next 13 in a dozen "one free month to play" mmorpg.
Yep, it's not breaking any records.
However it's not the next 13 in a dozen "one free month to play" mmorpg either.
It's a very well made game, contrary to all the other recent traditional MMOs.
So even though it's not something amazingly special, it's far from the mediocre game you WoW fanbois claim it to be.
As a matter of fact, it's as special now as WoW was when it released. Nothing new, but everything worked.
Very standard MMO....... kills 10 of X, collect 4 of Y AGREE
*No goal or reason to be there......, you feel like you're dropped into a world where you don't belong LORE WILL BECOME CLEARER AND CLEARED WHILE ADVANCING IN THE GAME THIS IS ONLY THE STARTER AREA
* text is mediocre at best.........., it's definately translated by people not used to MMO, the language and terminology used isn't impressive I DONT READ IT SO IDK
*Combat is very boring........... for the first 10 levels, you get very few abilities TRUE, BUT AS YOU SAID, ITS ONLY AT THE BEGINNING, GETS GOOD AT HIGHER LEVEL
*Game is a grind............, maybe I've played too many MMO, but <target mob> <kill mob> <target mob> <kill mob>..is what you'll be doing for about 4 hours non-stop to get to level 10 WHAT DO YOU WANT THEN? DONT PLAY GAMES THEN.
*NPC's did not speak to me (sound)................, maybe they will fix this, I don't know THATS GAY INDEED
*Players are mostly just soloing,........... no real incentive to group, maybe this will change in later levels, I don't know AT LEVEL 16 THERE IS AN AREA FULL OF ELITE MOBS, BIG FUN IN GROUP. ALSO, THIS IS JUST THE STARTING AREA, NOT THE HARD PART YET
*Places you start in are way too small,......... too many players all dumped into starting places, you feel like a person trapped in a box LOL IT'S BIG WHAT ARE YOU SAYING
*No real story..........., almost no lore, I felt lost? and it felt a bit pointless to be there YOU ARE GETTING REPETITIVE
*There's something wrong with the game's horizontal vision,..... imagine looking through a camera and missing a good part of the side view of the world, that's what it's like when playing Aion, they restrict vision to the left and right WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? THE FINGER OR THE APPLE?
Every game that doesn't deliver at least some of these newer Wow concepts will not break any records at all. In fact it will be the next 13 in a dozen "one free month to play" mmorpg.
Yep, it's not breaking any records.
However it's not the next 13 in a dozen "one free month to play" mmorpg either.
It's a very well made game, contrary to all the other recent traditional MMOs.
So even though it's not something amazingly special, it's far from the mediocre game you WoW fanbois claim it to be.
As a matter of fact, it's as special now as WoW was when it released. Nothing new, but everything worked.
Not good enough I'm afraid.
Because Wow 2009 uses a LOT of newer techniques which needs to be IN for any new game to convince people to pay more for ... less.
I mean: every new mmorpg has to have changing world elements in it from the very beginning.
The fact it simply is " a new world" which compares of what was being offerend in old Wow 2004 is simply not good enough.
The fact remains that 12.000.000 people know about the latest "standards". They have to be in it (and then add some).
Bored Wow players are not staying in a game for the next few years in just another world where you do the same, but with less possibilities.
Thet dab for one or two months and then ... leave for the number 14 in a dozen.
Well I played WoW from Beta to about a month ago, no idea what you mean by "new techniques". WoW is too recycled now, Blizzard is scraping the bottom of the barrell. The whole game needs a revamp. It has never been balanced for pvp and never will be, every few months they put out a patch to nerf this and buff that but never get it right. WoW is degrading.
You should be able to use your flying mount in every zone. You should be able to do combat while on any of your mounts. Rather then putting out a garbage expac like WOTLK, they should of revamped the game to include stuff like this.
Every game that doesn't deliver at least some of these newer Wow concepts will not break any records at all. In fact it will be the next 13 in a dozen "one free month to play" mmorpg.
Yep, it's not breaking any records.
However it's not the next 13 in a dozen "one free month to play" mmorpg either.
It's a very well made game, contrary to all the other recent traditional MMOs.
So even though it's not something amazingly special, it's far from the mediocre game you WoW fanbois claim it to be.
As a matter of fact, it's as special now as WoW was when it released. Nothing new, but everything worked.
Not good enough I'm afraid.
Because Wow 2009 uses a LOT of newer techniques which needs to be IN for any new game to convince people to pay more for ... less.
I mean: every new mmorpg has to have changing world elements in it from the very beginning.
The fact it simply is " a new world" which compares of what was being offerend in old Wow 2004 is simply not good enough.
The fact remains that 12.000.000 people know about the latest "standards". They have to be in it (and then add some).
Bored Wow players are not staying in a game for the next few years in just another world where you do the same, but with less possibilities.
Thet dab for one or two months and then ... leave for the number 14 in a dozen.
Are you following WoW numbers in Korea? took quite a hit since Aion released more than 6 months ago, and apparently subs are still increasing. Give it a couple of months and I wouldn't be surprised if the same happened in China.
This isn't your mediocre 'play for one month' game. It grows on you, and gets better the further you play. In fact, the worst levels in the game are the ones that are very similar to WoW, aka 1-->20. Not that I expect you to know that, as you clearly haven't even tried it.
Also I wouldn't expect you to know that Aion has an ENTIRELY different focus 25+ than WoW either.
I consider myself a bored WoW player, granted I quit before WotLK launched, but I'm enjoying Aion quite a bit.
Now unfortunatly some western players (who dont know what the game is about) are going to play for a few hours through the early levels and start dissing the game for being a "boring WoW clone", when actually, it is nothing like it, no, you're not 'doing the same, but with less possibilities."
Again, clearly you lack information on the game, so how about reading a bit, maybe playing the game, getting a feel for it, try to PvP etc. before posting like that.
Yep, it's not breaking any records. However it's not the next 13 in a dozen "one free month to play" mmorpg either. It's a very well made game, contrary to all the other recent traditional MMOs.
So even though it's not something amazingly special, it's far from the mediocre game you WoW fanbois claim it to be. As a matter of fact, it's as special now as WoW was when it released. Nothing new, but everything worked.
Not good enough I'm afraid.
Because Wow 2009 uses a LOT of newer techniques which needs to be IN for any new game to convince people to pay more for ... less.
I mean: every new mmorpg has to have changing world elements in it from the very beginning.
The fact it simply is " a new world" which compares of what was being offerend in old Wow 2004 is simply not good enough.
The fact remains that 12.000.000 people know about the latest "standards". They have to be in it (and then add some).
Bored Wow players are not staying in a game for the next few years in just another world where you do the same, but with less possibilities.
Thet dab for one or two months and then ... leave for the number 14 in a dozen.
Well I played WoW from Beta to about a month ago, no idea what you mean by "new techniques". WoW is too recycled now, Blizzard is scraping the bottom of the barrell now. The whole game needs a revamp. The game has never been balanced for pvp and never will be, every few months they put out a patch to nerf this and buff that but never get it right. WoW is degrading.
If you didn't see the falling Keeps and Towers, didn't see the changing worlds after questlines, didn't see the tanks, aritillery combats and didn't see the complete 3D open worlds since TBC and WotLK, I guess you are blind.
All new mmorpg's need to include the phasing technology used in WotLK as a starting point to begin with.
You don't have a clue about game design if you don't see these evolutions.
dude, WOTLK blows. I seen everything WoW has to offer. I even logged on to run Ulduar the night the patch came out after not playing WoW for a couple weeks. Needless to say first night and 4 bosses down (our entire guild laughing at blizzard), it's a joke just like the recycled naxx was. WoW is a kiddie game now.
OK, Here are 4 basic remarks abot STATE of the ART .... NOW: 1. In Wow anno 2009 there is ... phasing: the world changes for ever (no loading screens !) when you do certain epic adventures. You conquer the bases on the Lich King by completing adventures/quests and later on these bases are the next starting points for other conquests. So the world changes for ever .... 2. In Wow anno 2009 you have vehicule combat, horse combat, different kinds of mounted combat. Together with destructable buildings you can feel you are into destruction and laying a Keep in ruins. 3. In Wow anno 2009 you have dual specs making the roles far less restrictive for being a tank, a healer class or a dps class. Or making a nice dual PVE / PVP specced dps class. 4. Wow TBC and Wow WotLK make the world complete open with ANY form you like. Up in the skies, underwater adventures and crafted mounts, like flying carpets and other flying engines. True 3D that's called without any loading screens. ---> So these are the STARTING technical points for new mmorpg's (certainly the changing worlds concept is a must have point for ANY new mmorpg). These concepts make gameplay much more diverse, changing and adapted to today's knowledge of hi level mmorpg's.... played by ... 12.000.000 and more people. Every game that doesn't deliver at least some of these newer Wow concepts will not break any records at all. In fact it will be the next 13 in a dozen "one free month to play" mmorpg. Let's face it: the one playing and knowing the above is already ... spoiled and simply wants M O R E. Another leveling game without the newest techniques can't expect to better what we already know.
If a game doesn't have these things you say it needs them or it's not good enough, if it did have them you would say wow already has this and it's bringing nothing new.
Everyone on these forums is well aware of your feelings for any game that isn't WoW, the only thing you bring to any discussion of another game is WoW statistics, this is the Aion forum we are here to discuss Aion, not WoW.
If you have played Aion please feel free to give us your thoughts on it, if you wish to discuss WoW, the wow forums are elsewhere.
Maybe not all are kids, my friend still plays WoW because he has friends in his guild. But I admit, this kind of dedication to game is beyond my understanding. He says Blizzard has changed to worse, etc. and still pays them money...
Look around guys / girls, there are different MMOs than WoW or similar. I couldn't stand playing PvE in WAR and LotrO, it was just WoW dressed a bit different. Of course, stories different, graphics somewhat unique, but playing style still the same poin-&-click and go to sleep faceroll . I've had enough of it. The problem is now - there's no other MMO than D&D Online I can play for longer, because it's just so packed up with action and customization, that those other games seem VERY lacking and boring.
Ok, maybe that's not a problem, but really, experience with DDO was very eye opening. To see how most MMOs are still behind this game's technology... But it takes more than 1 hour to see it. Full collision system, dodging spells, javelins etc. by moving your character (or preferably using tumble skill), catching on ledges like in Tomb Raider, etc.
From what I am hearing from friends, there is a difference from the NA version and the Chinese version. They apparently cut some things out of the NA version but that might just because of the language barrier. However from what friends are saying it is not worth getting the NA version and to just get the chinese version but my only concern to doing that is the fact of lag since the chinese servers are soo far away.
It just surprises me that after one or 2 days of beta in NA that people can come on here and diss this game. You just know that Blizzard has a raiding party here, soon a new shift will start and we will get new people dissing it.
From what I am hearing from friends, there is a difference from the NA version and the Chinese version. They apparently cut some things out of the NA version but that might just because of the language barrier. However from what friends are saying it is not worth getting the NA version and to just get the chinese version but my only concern to doing that is the fact of lag since the chinese servers are soo far away.
FYI, NA is in beta and not complete... considering only one race is playable and there is a level limit how can your friends not say something is missing. lol
The real time to fully check this game out will be open beta.
From what I am hearing from friends, there is a difference from the NA version and the Chinese version. They apparently cut some things out of the NA version but that might just because of the language barrier. However from what friends are saying it is not worth getting the NA version and to just get the chinese version but my only concern to doing that is the fact of lag since the chinese servers are soo far away.
From what I've heard, there was pretty much no lag what-so-ever even on the CN servers (not sure what the comp set-ups were these people were using). Also, the stuff that was cut out for the NA Closed Beta was stuff that hasn't been translated (voices, etc) from what I've heard.
*No goal or reason to be there......, you feel like you're dropped into a world where you don't belong
Which is exactly what the story is about when you start out, but I can see your point of view and I also share some of the concerns but for me it's nothing really gamebreaking, also I know that when the PVP starts it will just give me more reasons to stick around (provided that I have a guild to do it with)
first off just gonna say the post is HUGE so im not going to read it all so im jsut going to reply to the first post
*game runs very well
(very well? its amazeing for something running on such an a great engine i have it set to full whack and i have experianced 0 problems and it looks gorgeous!)
*interface is nice to use
(i agree with you there its a great interface)
*music is quite good
)good wont cut it here.....this is prob the best music in any mmo i have ever heard its great...very final fantasy i love it)
*graphics are ok, much less good than Aion trailers, but still not bad
(as i explained above it looks fantastic and BETTER than the trailers why you would compare ingame grapics to that ill never know)
NEGETIVE
*Very standard MMO....... kills 10 of X, collect 4 of Y
typical of most mmos..why not play a little longer and get past the level grind thats so common in almost ALL mmos
*No goal or reason to be there......, you feel like you're dropped into a world where you don't belong
why not read up on the lore and read the quest txts in general pay attention and you will see why your there
* text is mediocre at best.........., it's definately translated by people not used to MMO, the language and terminology used isn't impressive
i take it your playing the korean with the eng patch..so ill leave this one out as it dosent need a responce
*Combat is very boring........... for the first 10 levels, you get very few abilities
again typical of almost all mmos and i think you get more than enough abilities to see you through those lvls
*Game is a grind............, maybe I've played too many MMO, but <target mob> <kill mob> <target mob> <kill mob>..is what you'll be doing for about 4 hours non-stop to get to level 10
once again typical of every mmo on the market till you get to the higher lvls
*NPC's did not speak to me (sound)................, maybe they will fix this, I don't know
ill agree with you here
*Players are mostly just soloing,........... no real incentive to group, maybe this will change in later levels, I don't know
find an english speaking guild like i have and you will get partys alot more
*No real story..........., almost no lore, I felt lost? and it felt a bit pointless to be there
again read the quest txt read the lore...in general pay attention
*There's something wrong with the game's horizontal vision,..... imagine looking through a camera and missing a good part of the side view of the world, that's what it's like when playing Aion, they restrict vision to the left and right
something wrong with your moniter then...runs perfectly for me
no pokeing holes in your theory here but i just dont see why your listing a bunch of stuff that is typical of most mmos that you already play.
on a bigger note..im haveing a blast playing aion and i am very excited about the EU release
the music is the best i have heard in any mmo..graphics and gameplay are amzaeing im going to play a little longer and then write a longer more in depth reveiw of the game
to sum it up aion is a blend of. guild wars wow final fantasy and a little bit of war all mashed together and i love it. Its just my type of game
From what I am hearing from friends, there is a difference from the NA version and the Chinese version. They apparently cut some things out of the NA version but that might just because of the language barrier. However from what friends are saying it is not worth getting the NA version and to just get the chinese version but my only concern to doing that is the fact of lag since the chinese servers are soo far away.
Whaa, are you suggesting western people skip the NA version and get the CN one.
WTH are you smoking or is it your friends that are high
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From what I am hearing from friends, there is a difference from the NA version and the Chinese version. They apparently cut some things out of the NA version but that might just because of the language barrier. However from what friends are saying it is not worth getting the NA version and to just get the chinese version but my only concern to doing that is the fact of lag since the chinese servers are soo far away.
Whaa, are you suggesting western people skip the NA version and get the CN one.
WTH are you smoking or is it your friends that are high
As far as I know, the NA version is currently an earlier version than China has right now. NCSoft has said we will have the latest version once the retail launch arrives. They're also still in the process of recording the English voice overs, as well as a couple of other languages (French and German, IIRC). They have guaranteed those new voice overs will be in the game come retail launch, as well.
I'm not sure what your friends are telling you, Joker, but I don't see anything missing that will stay missing.
Posters crack me up. Eastern players seem to thrive on grindathons, since it is doing very well in China and other places and NCSoft is well known for their other grindathon titles it is pretty obvious what Aion will be.
Trying to say this game will do well in the west is completely ignoring the obvious. Western players demand more. Combining this with the very weak flight in this game (giving me 1 minute of flight time to start is just insulting) I can't envision this game being very successful in the west.
Nice try NCSoft, but again you miss the point that western players want more depth in a game.
Your biggest problem is that you only got to level 10.
all of 1-10 is just like a tutorial zone. When you hit level 10 you go to the main city (which is f'kin huge) and you get your wings not long after then.
Also not long after 10 you get a stink load of various combo style skills which you must learn to use properly since the mobs are considerably more difficult its really not a case of select mob, kill mob. In addition its an PvPvE game (maybe you missed that) so your complaint about the PvE is much like you complaining about the lack of PvE in something like counterstrike. its a pvp game, since you make no comments about the pvp then you've missed the entire point.
As for the missing lore, well Aion has got to be the most richest lore orientated game Ive come accross, seriously you should the background from the website. then all will make sense.
You are right about one thing though. You most certainly are not qualified to write a review and your impressions are presumtuous and baseless.
Sorry but where can i download aion? Because some of you guys played it already.
That depend on if you want to play on the chinese servers or the NA/EU ones really.
I can PM you a link to guide for the chinese retail... But for the NA/EU you have to get a beta key for it.
You can a beta key if you preorder the game, like I did (I can cancel that order anytime, but I'm not)
or just keep a look out for beta key give away.
I did the same. I pre-ordered the Collector's Edition from GameStop, got my beta key in my e-mail the next day.
@AlpTest - You can either Pre-Order the game (which gives you access to all pre-launch events, as well as early access to the retail launch), or you can keep an eye out for more Beta Key Giveaways. Most likely, MMORPG.com will have more keys to give out for future beta events.
For those don't say this is another grind fest, WTF THIS IS A MMORPG. In case some of u don't know how that works i will explain. 1. Quest. 2. Kill 3. Collect reward 4. lvl up 5. Buy better equipment/skills 6. Repeat.
- -" kind of annoying to hear people say ohh no new content, well I guess the flying combat, is in every mmo right? Most mmorpg's your glued to the ground and can't even jump. Aion looks like it has lot of potential. So give it some time,
Before a flower blooms in to its beauty remember that at one time it was a seed.
That's how it worked since WoW or AO or EQ. But that's not the only way MMO's work. Look up Ultima Online and settle down.
Freaking MMO newbies trying to get loud. LOL
You my friend need to learn how to reply, I am not trying to get loud. Do YOU know what getting loud over the internet would look like?
How do other mmo's work, because I don't know of a different forumula. I am speaking from experience.
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lol this coming from someone trolling an RMT bot about WoW. Genius.
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Actually mr wannabe pirate i dont troll, i just typically respond to stupidity. hence this message. Are you wearing your pirate hat right now? ARRRR Billy !!
lol this coming from someone trolling an RMT bot about WoW. Genius.
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Actually mr wannabe pirate i dont troll, i just typically respond to stupidity. hence this message. Are you wearing your pirate hat right now? ARRRR Billy !!
Yes, it was rather stupid of you to troll an RMT bot, but don't beat yourself up about it.
Yep, it's not breaking any records.
However it's not the next 13 in a dozen "one free month to play" mmorpg either.
It's a very well made game, contrary to all the other recent traditional MMOs.
So even though it's not something amazingly special, it's far from the mediocre game you WoW fanbois claim it to be.
As a matter of fact, it's as special now as WoW was when it released. Nothing new, but everything worked.
Very standard MMO....... kills 10 of X, collect 4 of Y
AGREE
*No goal or reason to be there......, you feel like you're dropped into a world where you don't belong
LORE WILL BECOME CLEARER AND CLEARED WHILE ADVANCING IN THE GAME
THIS IS ONLY THE STARTER AREA
* text is mediocre at best.........., it's definately translated by people not used to MMO, the language and terminology used isn't impressive
I DONT READ IT SO IDK
*Combat is very boring........... for the first 10 levels, you get very few abilities
TRUE, BUT AS YOU SAID, ITS ONLY AT THE BEGINNING, GETS GOOD AT HIGHER LEVEL
*Game is a grind............, maybe I've played too many MMO, but <target mob> <kill mob> <target mob> <kill mob>..is what you'll be doing for about 4 hours non-stop to get to level 10
WHAT DO YOU WANT THEN? DONT PLAY GAMES THEN.
*NPC's did not speak to me (sound)................, maybe they will fix this, I don't know
THATS GAY INDEED
*Players are mostly just soloing,........... no real incentive to group, maybe this will change in later levels, I don't know
AT LEVEL 16 THERE IS AN AREA FULL OF ELITE MOBS, BIG FUN IN GROUP. ALSO, THIS IS JUST THE STARTING AREA, NOT THE HARD PART YET
*Places you start in are way too small,......... too many players all dumped into starting places, you feel like a person trapped in a box
LOL IT'S BIG WHAT ARE YOU SAYING
*No real story..........., almost no lore, I felt lost? and it felt a bit pointless to be there
YOU ARE GETTING REPETITIVE
*There's something wrong with the game's horizontal vision,..... imagine looking through a camera and missing a good part of the side view of the world, that's what it's like when playing Aion, they restrict vision to the left and right
WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? THE FINGER OR THE APPLE?
Eaglix
Yep, it's not breaking any records.
However it's not the next 13 in a dozen "one free month to play" mmorpg either.
It's a very well made game, contrary to all the other recent traditional MMOs.
So even though it's not something amazingly special, it's far from the mediocre game you WoW fanbois claim it to be.
As a matter of fact, it's as special now as WoW was when it released. Nothing new, but everything worked.
Not good enough I'm afraid.
Because Wow 2009 uses a LOT of newer techniques which needs to be IN for any new game to convince people to pay more for ... less.
I mean: every new mmorpg has to have changing world elements in it from the very beginning.
The fact it simply is " a new world" which compares of what was being offerend in old Wow 2004 is simply not good enough.
The fact remains that 12.000.000 people know about the latest "standards". They have to be in it (and then add some).
Bored Wow players are not staying in a game for the next few years in just another world where you do the same, but with less possibilities.
Thet dab for one or two months and then ... leave for the number 14 in a dozen.
Well I played WoW from Beta to about a month ago, no idea what you mean by "new techniques". WoW is too recycled now, Blizzard is scraping the bottom of the barrell. The whole game needs a revamp. It has never been balanced for pvp and never will be, every few months they put out a patch to nerf this and buff that but never get it right. WoW is degrading.
You should be able to use your flying mount in every zone. You should be able to do combat while on any of your mounts. Rather then putting out a garbage expac like WOTLK, they should of revamped the game to include stuff like this.
Yep, it's not breaking any records.
However it's not the next 13 in a dozen "one free month to play" mmorpg either.
It's a very well made game, contrary to all the other recent traditional MMOs.
So even though it's not something amazingly special, it's far from the mediocre game you WoW fanbois claim it to be.
As a matter of fact, it's as special now as WoW was when it released. Nothing new, but everything worked.
Not good enough I'm afraid.
Because Wow 2009 uses a LOT of newer techniques which needs to be IN for any new game to convince people to pay more for ... less.
I mean: every new mmorpg has to have changing world elements in it from the very beginning.
The fact it simply is " a new world" which compares of what was being offerend in old Wow 2004 is simply not good enough.
The fact remains that 12.000.000 people know about the latest "standards". They have to be in it (and then add some).
Bored Wow players are not staying in a game for the next few years in just another world where you do the same, but with less possibilities.
Thet dab for one or two months and then ... leave for the number 14 in a dozen.
Are you following WoW numbers in Korea? took quite a hit since Aion released more than 6 months ago, and apparently subs are still increasing. Give it a couple of months and I wouldn't be surprised if the same happened in China.
This isn't your mediocre 'play for one month' game. It grows on you, and gets better the further you play. In fact, the worst levels in the game are the ones that are very similar to WoW, aka 1-->20. Not that I expect you to know that, as you clearly haven't even tried it.
Also I wouldn't expect you to know that Aion has an ENTIRELY different focus 25+ than WoW either.
I consider myself a bored WoW player, granted I quit before WotLK launched, but I'm enjoying Aion quite a bit.
Now unfortunatly some western players (who dont know what the game is about) are going to play for a few hours through the early levels and start dissing the game for being a "boring WoW clone", when actually, it is nothing like it, no, you're not 'doing the same, but with less possibilities."
Again, clearly you lack information on the game, so how about reading a bit, maybe playing the game, getting a feel for it, try to PvP etc. before posting like that.
Not good enough I'm afraid.
Because Wow 2009 uses a LOT of newer techniques which needs to be IN for any new game to convince people to pay more for ... less.
I mean: every new mmorpg has to have changing world elements in it from the very beginning.
The fact it simply is " a new world" which compares of what was being offerend in old Wow 2004 is simply not good enough.
The fact remains that 12.000.000 people know about the latest "standards". They have to be in it (and then add some).
Bored Wow players are not staying in a game for the next few years in just another world where you do the same, but with less possibilities.
Thet dab for one or two months and then ... leave for the number 14 in a dozen.
Well I played WoW from Beta to about a month ago, no idea what you mean by "new techniques". WoW is too recycled now, Blizzard is scraping the bottom of the barrell now. The whole game needs a revamp. The game has never been balanced for pvp and never will be, every few months they put out a patch to nerf this and buff that but never get it right. WoW is degrading.
If you didn't see the falling Keeps and Towers, didn't see the changing worlds after questlines, didn't see the tanks, aritillery combats and didn't see the complete 3D open worlds since TBC and WotLK, I guess you are blind.
All new mmorpg's need to include the phasing technology used in WotLK as a starting point to begin with.
You don't have a clue about game design if you don't see these evolutions.
dude, WOTLK blows. I seen everything WoW has to offer. I even logged on to run Ulduar the night the patch came out after not playing WoW for a couple weeks. Needless to say first night and 4 bosses down (our entire guild laughing at blizzard), it's a joke just like the recycled naxx was. WoW is a kiddie game now.
If a game doesn't have these things you say it needs them or it's not good enough, if it did have them you would say wow already has this and it's bringing nothing new.
Everyone on these forums is well aware of your feelings for any game that isn't WoW, the only thing you bring to any discussion of another game is WoW statistics, this is the Aion forum we are here to discuss Aion, not WoW.
If you have played Aion please feel free to give us your thoughts on it, if you wish to discuss WoW, the wow forums are elsewhere.
Maybe not all are kids, my friend still plays WoW because he has friends in his guild. But I admit, this kind of dedication to game is beyond my understanding. He says Blizzard has changed to worse, etc. and still pays them money...
Look around guys / girls, there are different MMOs than WoW or similar. I couldn't stand playing PvE in WAR and LotrO, it was just WoW dressed a bit different. Of course, stories different, graphics somewhat unique, but playing style still the same poin-&-click and go to sleep faceroll
. I've had enough of it. The problem is now - there's no other MMO than D&D Online I can play for longer, because it's just so packed up with action and customization, that those other games seem VERY lacking and boring.
Ok, maybe that's not a problem, but really, experience with DDO was very eye opening. To see how most MMOs are still behind this game's technology... But it takes more than 1 hour to see it. Full collision system, dodging spells, javelins etc. by moving your character (or preferably using tumble skill), catching on ledges like in Tomb Raider, etc.
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From what I am hearing from friends, there is a difference from the NA version and the Chinese version. They apparently cut some things out of the NA version but that might just because of the language barrier. However from what friends are saying it is not worth getting the NA version and to just get the chinese version but my only concern to doing that is the fact of lag since the chinese servers are soo far away.
It just surprises me that after one or 2 days of beta in NA that people can come on here and diss this game. You just know that Blizzard has a raiding party here, soon a new shift will start and we will get new people dissing it.
FYI, NA is in beta and not complete... considering only one race is playable and there is a level limit how can your friends not say something is missing. lol
The real time to fully check this game out will be open beta.
From what I've heard, there was pretty much no lag what-so-ever even on the CN servers (not sure what the comp set-ups were these people were using). Also, the stuff that was cut out for the NA Closed Beta was stuff that hasn't been translated (voices, etc) from what I've heard.
Which is exactly what the story is about when you start out, but I can see your point of view and I also share some of the concerns but for me it's nothing really gamebreaking, also I know that when the PVP starts it will just give me more reasons to stick around (provided that I have a guild to do it with)
first off just gonna say the post is HUGE so im not going to read it all so im jsut going to reply to the first post
*game runs very well
(very well? its amazeing for something running on such an a great engine i have it set to full whack and i have experianced 0 problems and it looks gorgeous!)
*interface is nice to use
(i agree with you there its a great interface)
*music is quite good
)good wont cut it here.....this is prob the best music in any mmo i have ever heard its great...very final fantasy i love it)
*graphics are ok, much less good than Aion trailers, but still not bad
(as i explained above it looks fantastic and BETTER than the trailers why you would compare ingame grapics to that ill never know)
NEGETIVE
*Very standard MMO....... kills 10 of X, collect 4 of Y
typical of most mmos..why not play a little longer and get past the level grind thats so common in almost ALL mmos
*No goal or reason to be there......, you feel like you're dropped into a world where you don't belong
why not read up on the lore and read the quest txts in general pay attention and you will see why your there
* text is mediocre at best.........., it's definately translated by people not used to MMO, the language and terminology used isn't impressive
i take it your playing the korean with the eng patch..so ill leave this one out as it dosent need a responce
*Combat is very boring........... for the first 10 levels, you get very few abilities
again typical of almost all mmos and i think you get more than enough abilities to see you through those lvls
*Game is a grind............, maybe I've played too many MMO, but <target mob> <kill mob> <target mob> <kill mob>..is what you'll be doing for about 4 hours non-stop to get to level 10
once again typical of every mmo on the market till you get to the higher lvls
*NPC's did not speak to me (sound)................, maybe they will fix this, I don't know
ill agree with you here
*Players are mostly just soloing,........... no real incentive to group, maybe this will change in later levels, I don't know
find an english speaking guild like i have and you will get partys alot more
*No real story..........., almost no lore, I felt lost? and it felt a bit pointless to be there
again read the quest txt read the lore...in general pay attention
*There's something wrong with the game's horizontal vision,..... imagine looking through a camera and missing a good part of the side view of the world, that's what it's like when playing Aion, they restrict vision to the left and right
something wrong with your moniter then...runs perfectly for me
no pokeing holes in your theory here but i just dont see why your listing a bunch of stuff that is typical of most mmos that you already play.
on a bigger note..im haveing a blast playing aion and i am very excited about the EU release
the music is the best i have heard in any mmo..graphics and gameplay are amzaeing im going to play a little longer and then write a longer more in depth reveiw of the game
to sum it up aion is a blend of. guild wars wow final fantasy and a little bit of war all mashed together and i love it. Its just my type of game
i am very impressed
Whaa, are you suggesting western people skip the NA version and get the CN one.
WTH are you smoking
or is it your friends that are high 
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Whaa, are you suggesting western people skip the NA version and get the CN one.
WTH are you smoking
or is it your friends that are high 
As far as I know, the NA version is currently an earlier version than China has right now. NCSoft has said we will have the latest version once the retail launch arrives. They're also still in the process of recording the English voice overs, as well as a couple of other languages (French and German, IIRC). They have guaranteed those new voice overs will be in the game come retail launch, as well.
I'm not sure what your friends are telling you, Joker, but I don't see anything missing that will stay missing.
Sorry but where can i download aion? Because some of you guys played it already.
That depend on if you want to play on the chinese servers or the NA/EU ones really.
I can PM you a link to guide for the chinese retail... But for the NA/EU you have to get a beta key for it.
You can a beta key if you preorder the game, like I did (I can cancel that order anytime, but I'm not)
or just keep a look out for beta key give away.
Posters crack me up. Eastern players seem to thrive on grindathons, since it is doing very well in China and other places and NCSoft is well known for their other grindathon titles it is pretty obvious what Aion will be.
Trying to say this game will do well in the west is completely ignoring the obvious. Western players demand more. Combining this with the very weak flight in this game (giving me 1 minute of flight time to start is just insulting) I can't envision this game being very successful in the west.
Nice try NCSoft, but again you miss the point that western players want more depth in a game.
Your biggest problem is that you only got to level 10.
all of 1-10 is just like a tutorial zone. When you hit level 10 you go to the main city (which is f'kin huge) and you get your wings not long after then.
Also not long after 10 you get a stink load of various combo style skills which you must learn to use properly since the mobs are considerably more difficult its really not a case of select mob, kill mob. In addition its an PvPvE game (maybe you missed that) so your complaint about the PvE is much like you complaining about the lack of PvE in something like counterstrike. its a pvp game, since you make no comments about the pvp then you've missed the entire point.
As for the missing lore, well Aion has got to be the most richest lore orientated game Ive come accross, seriously you should the background from the website. then all will make sense.
You are right about one thing though. You most certainly are not qualified to write a review and your impressions are presumtuous and baseless.
And how do i get a beta Key?
That depend on if you want to play on the chinese servers or the NA/EU ones really.
I can PM you a link to guide for the chinese retail... But for the NA/EU you have to get a beta key for it.
You can a beta key if you preorder the game, like I did (I can cancel that order anytime, but I'm not)
or just keep a look out for beta key give away.
I did the same. I pre-ordered the Collector's Edition from GameStop, got my beta key in my e-mail the next day.
@AlpTest - You can either Pre-Order the game (which gives you access to all pre-launch events, as well as early access to the retail launch), or you can keep an eye out for more Beta Key Giveaways. Most likely, MMORPG.com will have more keys to give out for future beta events.
That depend on if you want to play on the chinese servers or the NA/EU ones really.
I can PM you a link to guide for the chinese retail... But for the NA/EU you have to get a beta key for it.
You can a beta key if you preorder the game, like I did (I can cancel that order anytime, but I'm not)
or just keep a look out for beta key give away.
I did the same. I pre-ordered the Collector's Edition from GameStop, got my beta key in my e-mail the next day.
They seem to have deleted my post.
That's how it worked since WoW or AO or EQ. But that's not the only way MMO's work. Look up Ultima Online and settle down.
Freaking MMO newbies trying to get loud. LOL
You my friend need to learn how to reply, I am not trying to get loud. Do YOU know what getting loud over the internet would look like?
How do other mmo's work, because I don't know of a different forumula. I am speaking from experience.
Freaking MMO NOOBIES trying to get attention LOL.