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  • ExistanceExistance Member Posts: 6

    Hey kk2 again :P Thx for last reply to my magic resist questions :D

     

    I got one more. Yesterday after i asked last question they made update on official Aionarmory site with new items/quests etc from patch 1.0->1.5 I noticed they add new type of rings like this one:

     

    http://www.aionarmory.com/item.aspx?id=122000982

     This ring got stat +500 resist vs fear... u can have 2 rings so thats +1000 resist. Thats A LOT lol. I wonder is it some kind of translation mistake or u got this kind of rings aswell? if yes - does they rly stack so easly ? Coz if yes then we - SM - are fucked up coz if someone add +1000 resist then we wont land any fear and we will die from any class... I ask u coz this is very important - there are also rings like +500 stun resist etc so sin is pretty much fucked up aswell.

     

    Thx

  • madmilkmanmadmilkman Member Posts: 3

    First thx for all info!

    Now, i noticed here and on other forums that ppl dont talk much about sorcers. I wos wondering is anything wrong with them?

    I seen on clips that they have some disable skills. How efficiant are thoes skills in countering assasins if u have magic rez set on you.

    I mean generally what is deal with sorcers, cos it seams they are not that popular?

  • kilkil2kilkil2 Member Posts: 153
    Originally posted by madmilkman


    First thx for all info!
    Now, i noticed here and on other forums that ppl dont talk much about sorcers. I wos wondering is anything wrong with them?
    I seen on clips that they have some disable skills. How efficiant are thoes skills in countering assasins if u have magic rez set on you.
    I mean generally what is deal with sorcers, cos it seams they are not that popular?



     

    Nothing wrong with them.

    Just i'm not interested in, so people wasn't talking about much i think.

    Sorc is good but not popular in Korea. It'll be popular more in 1.5 and NA/EU.

     

  • kilkil2kilkil2 Member Posts: 153
    Originally posted by Existance


    Hey kk2 again :P Thx for last reply to my magic resist questions :D
     
    I got one more. Yesterday after i asked last question they made update on official Aionarmory site with new items/quests etc from patch 1.0->1.5 I noticed they add new type of rings like this one:
     
    http://www.aionarmory.com/item.aspx?id=122000982
     This ring got stat +500 resist vs fear... u can have 2 rings so thats +1000 resist. Thats A LOT lol. I wonder is it some kind of translation mistake or u got this kind of rings aswell? if yes - does they rly stack so easly ? Coz if yes then we - SM - are fucked up coz if someone add +1000 resist then we wont land any fear and we will die from any class... I ask u coz this is very important - there are also rings like +500 stun resist etc so sin is pretty much fucked up aswell.
     
    Thx



     

    lmao what the hell is that stupid item lol

    There's no such item.

    giving Resist about CCs by item is very rare,

    in Theobomos/Adma instances you able to get some Unique accessaries.

    If you equip those accessaries sets(earring,ring,necklace),

    you get set item boost buff like Diablo's set item boost.

    There's three kind of CC resist set items (Fall/Stun/Knockback, +250 for each effects and only one usable)

    it's hard to get them all and +250 is about 20% chance to resist i think

  • kilkil2kilkil2 Member Posts: 153
    Originally posted by Abattre


    Kilkil2
    This has to be the most informative post I have come across and want to give you a big thanks for taking so much time out of you life to answer things you have experienced. Its refreshing to see a post where a poster speaks from thier experience and people listen and ask questions rather then flame or whine. I have enjoyed all 13 pages so far on this post. Hoepfully when you have time you can answer a few questions for me that I have yet seen asked.
     
    When Aion comes to NA I plan on playing the Gladiator. I"am hard core gamer that likes to do his research and know what to shoot for in a game. Also I have a big weakness for choosing a characters based on big weapons and plate armor :)
     
    Extendable Weapons I have watched videos and have read posts that show or briefly go over these but none go into depth about them. I am curious if their is a list of them and how do you know that the weapon is a extendable since I can't see anything on the items that mark them as such? Can they be crafted or a chance upon crafting. What weapon types are extendables? Also are these a must have to be proficient in PvP as a Gladiator? Any information on this would be greatly appreciated.
     Don't expect to get extendable weapons from craft, theres almost none.
    Extending is very needed and worth to have for PvP and PvE(solo especially)
    Except Bows and mage's weapons all weapons have extendable type one,
    and very very EXPENSIVE.
    Stigmas While their are posts that cover the 2 basic must have stigmas, snare and armor, but which others are the Koreans currently favoring and why? Also with patch 1.5 granting 3 more Stigma slots, which stigmas to use in those? Also is their a more up to date list on what Stigmas are currently available to Gladiators?
     It's going to be totally changed by 1.5patches, it bringing huge difference to setting up Stigmas.
    So i can't tell what will be popular on 1.5 its not on live servers yet.
    Godstones Out of curiosity which Godstones do the Koreans favor atm for level 50? What Godstones for 2h Sword / Polearm, Duel Wield PVE, and Bow? Would love to hear more on this and the reasoning behind the choices and if their if there is a low end version to hold you over till you can get the optimal one.
    By people's wanted order,
    Paralyze is supreme one and horribly expensive, then Silence and Blind, then Snare and Roots.
    Damage godstones are used to be popular for classes who have magic dps, and its quite
    cheaper than those expensive ones that i wrote above.


    Attack Speed Items The only items I'am seeing in the Database are Gloves at 8%, Scroll at 9% and some weapons at 10-23%. Other then the chanter DP ability is there any other items or abilities that have attack speed?

     
    Some rare title gives you 2% attack speed boost, and thats all other stuff
    that having attack speed boost i think. 19% AS is max AS boost from Weapon
     
    Manastones for PvP  Most of the Gladiator Community on Aionsource is under the impression that Crit Manastones till you crit cap then go with +attack Manastones for the rest is the ideal set up. After reading all your posts about how important resists are, how does / did the Gladiator on your team set up his? I'am under the impression that the Crit + Attack manastone may only be good for grinding but again what kinda balance should we be shooting for in PvP, as Crit is needed for Knockdowns but where do we draw the line and how much should we invest into resist and hp manastones on top of this?
     Crit rate is enough with 300-400, then you can boost it to around 400-500 by Food buff and item buff
    then getting Magic Resist stoned, and few HPs is most usual pro PvP Glad's setup.
    And surely it sucks for PvE, for PvE just max up your DPS ability,(Damage+ stones, Crit stones)
     
    Thanks in advance
    /cheers
     
    Abattre
     

     

     

  • EphimeroEphimero Member Posts: 1,860

    Ive been checking your "armory" in the korean website, Im trying to figure out which gear would be the most convenient for everyone, so far, Im seeing you're using abyss armors for up to 30% PC defense and then crafted? weapons for attack speed?

  • kilkil2kilkil2 Member Posts: 153
    Originally posted by Richijefe


    Kilkil2 Thank you very much for all the effort and all the information you have provided, its quite frankly unvaluable.
    From what I read in other forums this new 1.5 patch has gradually emptied the Abyss, and most players moved to the new instances for APs and for hero equipment. Therefore, it seems like Aion will after all not be a very pvp oriented game, since doing PVE you can gain APs easily and without any danger (unlike PVP where you might die). This is indeed a sad turn of the game and an unexpected one.
    I would like to show my concern about these changes, so my question is, where can someone that wants to complain about these coming changes do so? Do you know of any forum, email, twitter, etc that is in english?
     
    Thanks in advance, and again thanks for all your effort.



     

    The situation is truly what seems like happening in Test Servers atm.

    I wrote some article about that on big Korean Aion community site and its on main page.

    So many people read it and it doesn't seemed like people wanted to PvP much.

    People always used to whine about imbalance by classes FOREVER (sin,Templar OP etc, zzz ITS OK IMO)

    and hate that seriously : getting kicked on unexpected situation.

    So it will be going on the way of their purpose.

    Sad turn for open world PvP, but i have a hope for Dreadgion instances :/

    Peace win

  • kilkil2kilkil2 Member Posts: 153
    Originally posted by Ephimero


    Ive been checking your "armory" in the korean website, Im trying to figure out which gear would be the most convenient for everyone, so far, Im seeing you're using abyss armors for up to 30% PC defense and then crafted? weapons for attack speed?



     

    I'm fully setted up with 40lvl gold abyss armors and 50lvl gold abyss accessaries except belt(poor blue drop from mob)

    Weapon is common 45lvl gold hammer one from quest, Shield is 30lvl gold abyss one.

    And sub-weapon is staff with some accuracy stoned for against high Magic Resisted guys.

    I'm having 14% PvP damage boost and 16%(staff mod)~20%(abyss shield+hammer) PvP damage reduction.

     

  • kilkil2kilkil2 Member Posts: 153
    Originally posted by Keliel


     Kikil2  Thank you very much for all of your replys , this is the best place were Ive found with really useful information.
    I have some questions if you have the time. When it comes to abyss gear, wich is the best set to get first? When I tryed the beta i was able to check the abyss gear, there are lvl 30, 40 and 50 "gold" gear, also blue and green. What do you think that i should buy first, should I try to save to get  enough for full lvl 30 gold gear, or should i get green/blue first? Or Should i save all the way to 40 and get into the abyss with mobs drops. Or I could get a few lvl 30 gold gear and get green/blue lvl 40? Im planning on rolling a Cleric. I know there isnt a +heal stat so i guess my healing will be the same, and i just have to focus on survality, i think.  This is probably something that only a person that knows end game knows, since I would probably waste my AP in the first item i could buy.
    Thanks in advance, and again thank you very much for all this.



     

    30Lvl gold abyss gears are kinda waste if you are going for 50lvl.

    40lvl one is good enough to use even in 50lvl.

    But everything is about how much time you can pay and how much you want to be stronger.

    It's totally up to your time and practice. Effective way to setup is

    getting 40lvl abyss armors, then 50lvl abys accessary imo.

    don't waste it on green gears never, its total wasting.

    If you aren't enough hardcore, maybe setting up most one with 50lvl blue ones wouldn't be that bad.

     

  • kilkil2kilkil2 Member Posts: 153
    Originally posted by Richijefe


    Kilkil2 Thank you very much for all the effort and all the information you have provided, its quite frankly unvaluable.
    From what I read in other forums this new 1.5 patch has gradually emptied the Abyss, and most players moved to the new instances for APs and for hero equipment. Therefore, it seems like Aion will after all not be a very pvp oriented game, since doing PVE you can gain APs easily and without any danger (unlike PVP where you might die). This is indeed a sad turn of the game and an unexpected one.
    I would like to show my concern about these changes, so my question is, where can someone that wants to complain about these coming changes do so? Do you know of any forum, email, twitter, etc that is in english?
     
    Thanks in advance, and again thanks for all your effort.



     

    o sry i forgot to reply main question.. But i don't think that'll work effectively.

    I was on hard working for it for a week , they just seemed like going on that way.

  • SuperVegitoSuperVegito Member Posts: 3

    My post was a ways back and I know how many questions you attend to but in case you missed mine heres a link

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2980755#2980755

    Not rushing you but I just want to try and make sure it isn't skipped cause I'm curious bout my answers xD

    Thanks man

  • kilkil2kilkil2 Member Posts: 153
    Originally posted by SuperVegito


    My post was a ways back and I know how many questions you attend to but in case you missed mine heres a link
    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2980755#2980755
    Not rushing you but I just want to try and make sure it isn't skipped cause I'm curious bout my answers xD
    Thanks man



     

    Sorry i had too much homework sometime i'm missing one :x

    1. If you going to do guerilla hit and run as small group, better to focus on dps more.

    but if you run with more than 3-4peoples, focus on HP and Magic Resists more

     

    2. Rangers duo is most irritating small group enemy was for me, and for most of peoples.

    They approach with hiding and choose one to eat, then burst dps real quickly

    before target notice that he's on danger, and after few sec its dead already.

    That happened to me quite much also. in 1.2version by Ranger duo

    there was no way to not die in 3sec, but it'll be a bit harder in 1.5 cause of PC damage reduction.

    but prolly still duo Ranger is one of best combination for guerilla i think.

  • SuperVegitoSuperVegito Member Posts: 3
    Originally posted by kilkil2

    Originally posted by SuperVegito


    My post was a ways back and I know how many questions you attend to but in case you missed mine heres a link
    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2980755#2980755
    Not rushing you but I just want to try and make sure it isn't skipped cause I'm curious bout my answers xD
    Thanks man



     

    Sorry i had too much homework sometime i'm missing one :x

    1. If you going to do guerilla hit and run as small group, better to focus on dps more.

    but if you run with more than 3-4peoples, focus on HP and Magic Resists more

     

    2. Rangers duo is most irritating small group enemy was for me, and for most of peoples.

    They approach with hiding and choose one to eat, then burst dps real quickly

    before target notice that he's on danger, and after few sec its dead already.

    That happened to me quite much also. in 1.2version by Ranger duo

    there was no way to not die in 3sec, but it'll be a bit harder in 1.5 cause of PC damage reduction.

    but prolly still duo Ranger is one of best combination for guerilla i think.

    Haha ok good to know man. I'm excited :D.  Thanks for the response.

  • NazradinNazradin Member Posts: 24

     

     Great thread and very helpful.

    I was wondering how stable the korean servers are? for the last 3 betas I have been experincing lots of server side lag- lag spkies that compress 10 seconds combat into 1 sec, rubber banding, slow looting, unresponsive npcs etc etc.

    Is it just nc west using crap servers , have they somehow borked the game  or is poor performance what  its like on  Kaion live?

  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519
    Originally posted by Nazradin


     
     Great thread and very helpful.
    I was wondering how stable the korean servers are? for the last 3 betas I have been experincing lots of server side lag- lag spkies that compress 10 seconds combat into 1 sec, rubber banding, slow looting, unresponsive npcs etc etc.
    Is it just nc west using crap servers , have they somehow borked the game  or is poor performance what  its like on  Kaion live?

    Korea has no issues but then again there internet system is the best in the world hands down.  As far as EU and NA and the beta test, just give it some time and they should be able to hammer it out (my guess EU will be corrected before NA does).

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  • kilkil2kilkil2 Member Posts: 153
    Originally posted by stayontarget

    Originally posted by Nazradin


     
     Great thread and very helpful.
    I was wondering how stable the korean servers are? for the last 3 betas I have been experincing lots of server side lag- lag spkies that compress 10 seconds combat into 1 sec, rubber banding, slow looting, unresponsive npcs etc etc.
    Is it just nc west using crap servers , have they somehow borked the game  or is poor performance what  its like on  Kaion live?

    Korea has no issues but then again there internet system is the best in the world hands down.  As far as EU and NA and the beta test, just give it some time and they should be able to hammer it out (my guess EU will be corrected before NA does).



     

    We never had issues about servers.

    NC's server maintaining skill is well known to prime (at least best in korean mmo companies)

    There's some issues about getting serious graphic errors in Fortress Sieging

    when about 300 peoples up in same area with tons of added buildings and NPCs(at Fortress Sieging time, it pops up)

     

  • madc4tmadc4t Member Posts: 2

    Can you go more into detail about extendable weapons please, a few questions:

     

    1. How can a player recognize an extendable weapon while browsing the trade broker; in general, is there a sign on the tooltip what marks the weapon as extendable?

     

    2. Are the Abyss Weapons extendable, are even a few of them?

     

    3. How much range do extendable weapons give on melee attacks?

     

    4. Which is the first extenable weapon available for players?

  • madmilkmanmadmilkman Member Posts: 3

    thx 1 more time for all info kilkil2

    I plan on playing with 2 of my friends, and since in this game u can fight in air, we where planing to go with this setup:

    sorcer, rogue, prist.

    do u think this will be good setup for air combat?

  • oskironmaideoskironmaide Member Posts: 336

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  • EphimeroEphimero Member Posts: 1,860
    Originally posted by madc4t


    Can you go more into detail about extendable weapons please, a few questions:
     
    1. How can a player recognize an extendable weapon while browsing the trade broker; in general, is there a sign on the tooltip what marks the weapon as extendable?
     No idea
    2. Are the Abyss Weapons extendable, are even a few of them?
     Afaik, no, they aren't
    3. How much range do extendable weapons give on melee attacks?
     400
    4. Which is the first extenable weapon available for players?
    temple of fire drops, level 35

     

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  • pqyrzpqyrz Member UncommonPosts: 14

    I took me almost 2 hours, but I read through this entire thread and simply wanted to say THANK YOU kilkil2.

    I'm a casual player that will never be great at PvP, but will do my best to use what I have learned here.

    /bowshead

  • grimfogrimfo Member Posts: 36

    i have a question for kilkil2 or anyone who can answer

    is there a stat that boosts assassins chance to land stun? like magic acc? and if so would it be worth it to stack it?

  • dubledubdubledub Member Posts: 229

    Hi I'm fairly new to Aion (never played it but I've been following it for some time, reading info and such like) and I was wondering:

    What role does the ranger play in Aion? What I mean is, I've played other RPG and I have found that the ranger dies quickly if they can't run away- and if they do run away they never do any damage. I've always loved the ranger class but I want it to be more of a sniper sort of profession - can I expect any thing to this effect (skill or general damage wise) from the ranger class in aion?

     

    thanks

  • PyrostasisPyrostasis Member UncommonPosts: 2,293

    rangers do rather sick burst damage in aion and have plenty of CC toys to keep themselves alive.

  • dubledubdubledub Member Posts: 229

    Hmm ok, thanks. I think I'll give the ranger a go and if it proves not to work out I can always go a different path.

    I've just thought of another question- what's the level cap? I can't believe I haven't seen any mention to it yet

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