This is the first time I have paid more than $80 for a CE, this is the first time I have camped a site for 9 hour+ to get a game pre-launch.
This is the first time I have paid nearly $100 for a beta game...and you know what.
I am damned happy I got my LE. Damned happy I gave my $98 USD. And damn eager for Monday to roll around.
Heads will roll,
Alexis *smiles*
I guess you didn't know about Darkfall or you would have done the same stuff for that game since they are mirrors when talking about pre-release promises, some people camped that site for 5 years or more and guess what? It was not worth it at all and one of the worst games ever in that the Devs lied so much and delivered so little on the promises.
You are counting your chickens too early, please let us know how you feel about your purchase a month after release and once you have played the game.
It feels great to think you got a great item and are one of the few to be lucky to get it, but once you realize you were conned into it by pre-release hype/lies by Devs, then you will really be mad.
I pre-ordered AOC, WAR, also waited fro Darkfall for 3-4 months checking the site daily like a maniac(thank god not 5 years liek many of their fans) and all 3 bombed. I now know what to look for pre-release to know if Devs are lying or not, and never get excited til I try a game myself. These Devs are not being true to fans.
This game is in Alpha (no matter what rthey say it is) yet they plan to release soon? They promise more than every game has ever delivered, yet they are unknown Devs with no experience and shown very little of their game. They are accepting money, but limiting customers, can't afford a real launch or anything, so they collect money now to be able to make actual hard copies of the game.
Crazy expensive prices for an unknown Developer that has shown nothing, but promised more than anyone can believe to be true. I will wait til i try it myself before handing them even a dime.
/agree..
I havent seen any footage worth my 75 bucks right NOW..... What happened to try before you buys and stuff like free beta previews (Fileplanet did this with World of warcraft, look at what happened..)
Why fork up so much money on promises?
If I promised you that I would build you a house, would you give me the money before or AFTER i built your house?
LOL and people were crying that Darkfall's EU client and NA client were seperate purchases (like GOA War and EA War was). Looks like EU MO costs almost as much as both regions of Darkfall. Your NA price is built in, or is it? Lets see if they charge for the NA launch.
The definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
LOL and people were crying that Darkfall's EU client and NA client were seperate purchases (like GOA War and EA War was). Looks like EU MO costs almost as much as both regions of Darkfall. Your NA price is built in, or is it? Lets see if they charge for the NA launch.
Except the fact that you paid nearly as much for a Digital Download, while in MO your getting a boxed version for this price and they already stated Digital Downloads will be much cheaper, because well you know, it doesnt cost them anything to distribute, I wonder what justification AV had to charge a Digital Download more than any boxed version.
LOL and people were crying that Darkfall's EU client and NA client were seperate purchases (like GOA War and EA War was). Looks like EU MO costs almost as much as both regions of Darkfall. Your NA price is built in, or is it? Lets see if they charge for the NA launch.
Except the fact that you paid nearly as much for a Digital Download, while in MO your getting a boxed version for this price and they already stated Digital Downloads will be much cheaper, because well you know, it doesnt cost them anything to distribute, I wonder what justification AV had to charge a Digital Download more than any boxed version.
Steam does the same thing, they sell digital versions the same price as boxed versions... I honestly would pay $50 for the digital download instead of the boxed version because I know that I will be able to download it anywhere at any time...
That doesn't bother me, I am just skeptical of paying that much money for that pre-alpha game...
LOL and people were crying that Darkfall's EU client and NA client were seperate purchases (like GOA War and EA War was). Looks like EU MO costs almost as much as both regions of Darkfall. Your NA price is built in, or is it? Lets see if they charge for the NA launch.
Except the fact that you paid nearly as much for a Digital Download, while in MO your getting a boxed version for this price and they already stated Digital Downloads will be much cheaper, because well you know, it doesnt cost them anything to distribute, I wonder what justification AV had to charge a Digital Download more than any boxed version.
Yeah! Maybe someone should make a "MO vs. DF & other MMO pricing comparison" thread to make things more clear.
It's sad to see how eager non-followers are to jump on the "this is a rip off" bandwagon while not reading SV's very clear explanation on this. Though it was to be expected. People have a 35-65 dollar figure in mind related to game purchases and anything which is higher means an automated negative response without diving into the available information first, (to find out that the digital dl might be cheaper than the average MMO, for instance).
LOL and people were crying that Darkfall's EU client and NA client were seperate purchases (like GOA War and EA War was). Looks like EU MO costs almost as much as both regions of Darkfall. Your NA price is built in, or is it? Lets see if they charge for the NA launch.
The EU darkfall client didn't cost me anything, it was free.
The account I paid for cost me 65 USD.
MO cost me 75 USD, plus I get a box and I'm guaranteed a spot on the live server. I don't think people understand this part. Not everyone that wants to play is guaranteed to be able to at release.
Once again,
They only produced a few thousand boxes.
Unless you run off several hundred thousand it costs more to make each box. What it cost SV to make the very small number of boxes they did is reflected in the price. This is true of anything. The more of an item you manufacture the less it costs.
It costs more to make 5000 DVD's then it does to make 500,000.
It's not that people dont wanna play the game. It's just very disheartening to hear that in order to preview the game to see if it is something you'd be interested in costs 75 bucks.. no matter how we choke and spit it out, it is the same puke (not literally because I think the game looks alright). But why is it a good move to charge your potential player base full price plus, for access to your alpha stage testing?
Why not charge the price for an account like the normal 15 bucks, and then if they want to buy the game they could buy the box at a later date after the beta's?
LOL and people were crying that Darkfall's EU client and NA client were seperate purchases (like GOA War and EA War was). Looks like EU MO costs almost as much as both regions of Darkfall. Your NA price is built in, or is it? Lets see if they charge for the NA launch.
LOL and people were crying that Darkfall's EU client and NA client were seperate purchases (like GOA War and EA War was). Looks like EU MO costs almost as much as both regions of Darkfall. Your NA price is built in, or is it? Lets see if they charge for the NA launch.
haha... right on... tell the truth brotha...
Well the truth is that the devs has already promised that you will never need too buy the game again for that reason... They also promised that they will get a NA server if the demand is big enough..... please do some research before posting lies.
And WAR did have their game divided from the start while darkfall never told their players about it and just added it after, many NA players got screwed, not same in my book.
It's not that people dont wanna play the game. It's just very disheartening to hear that in order to preview the game to see if it is something you'd be interested in costs 75 bucks.. no matter how we choke and spit it out, it is the same puke (not literally because I think the game looks alright). But why is it a good move to charge your potential player base full price plus, for access to your alpha stage testing?
Why not charge the price for an account like the normal 15 bucks, and then if they want to buy the game they could buy the box at a later date after the beta's?
I'm glad you won't be buying.
It's not a preview, it's a beta.
You're not there to preview, you're there to test and give feedback. To report bugs, imbalances, and possible exploits.
Not to get an early preview to see if the games good. It won't be.
Block A will be testing things like the launcher, woo-hoo the launcher! We'll be testing the autoupdater, swimming. Yes, SWIMMING!
It's not that people dont wanna play the game. It's just very disheartening to hear that in order to preview the game to see if it is something you'd be interested in costs 75 bucks.. no matter how we choke and spit it out, it is the same puke (not literally because I think the game looks alright). But why is it a good move to charge your potential player base full price plus, for access to your alpha stage testing?
Why not charge the price for an account like the normal 15 bucks, and then if they want to buy the game they could buy the box at a later date after the beta's?
I'm glad you won't be buying.
It's not a preview, it's a beta.
You're not there to preview, you're there to test and give feedback. To report bugs, imbalances, and possible exploits.
Not to get an early preview to see if the games good. It won't be.
Block A will be testing things like the launcher, woo-hoo the launcher! We'll be testing the autoupdater, swimming. Yes, SWIMMING!
Originally posted by Vyeth
It's not that people dont wanna play the game. It's just very disheartening to hear that in order to preview the game to see if it is something you'd be interested in costs 75 bucks.. no matter how we choke and spit it out, it is the same puke (not literally because I think the game looks alright). But why is it a good move to charge your potential player base full price plus, for access to your alpha stage testing?
Why not charge the price for an account like the normal 15 bucks, and then if they want to buy the game they could buy the box at a later date after the beta's?
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Yes that is my original post.. I may have worded it two different ways but what i meant was exactly what you said.. you are paying 75 bucks to test SWIMMING..lol.... Have fun, I'll just let you do a few laps in the water while i play DF waiting for the cheaper DD and some decent reviews on the game after you got your swimming out of your system... heh.
LOL and people were crying that Darkfall's EU client and NA client were seperate purchases (like GOA War and EA War was). Looks like EU MO costs almost as much as both regions of Darkfall. Your NA price is built in, or is it? Lets see if they charge for the NA launch.
haha... right on... tell the truth brotha...
Well the truth is that the devs has already promised that you will never need too buy the game again for that reason... They also promised that they will get a NA server if the demand is big enough..... please do some research before posting lies.
And WAR did have their game divided from the start while darkfall never told their players about it and just added it after, many NA players got screwed, not same in my book.
BTW the NA server they were talking about is a NA beta server if the demand is there. Read that carefully, they are talking about having a server for the NA players for BETA!!!!
Now compare that to a certain other EU companies game and their NA server 5 months after the "launch" and still have to either pay to play or wait 3 months and then pay to transfer.
Big difference there, but of course the failbots already know that which is why they are over here trying to stifle this game. They can read the writing on the wall of their underpopulated servers.
$75 *laughs* seems here are some guys running mad.
why buying a box at such an insane price if nearly every " big" game can after some time be downloaded an tested for free because of the great competition in this tight market?
Who of us has plenty of his own or his dads *laughs* money to throw away?
It's not that people dont wanna play the game. It's just very disheartening to hear that in order to preview the game to see if it is something you'd be interested in costs 75 bucks.. no matter how we choke and spit it out, it is the same puke (not literally because I think the game looks alright). But why is it a good move to charge your potential player base full price plus, for access to your alpha stage testing?
Why not charge the price for an account like the normal 15 bucks, and then if they want to buy the game they could buy the box at a later date after the beta's?
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One reason to charge that up front fee for access to beta is the fact you will only get people dedicated to the game to help test the game and finalize it without having to wade through all the crap of people who want the game to be completely different just so they might enjoy the game.
I always get amused when a bunch of people whine about pvp elements in a game designed for pve and vice versa. There are so many games out there it is much better to pick a game that is fairly close to what you want to play rather than trying to whine a game into what you want because it never will be.
Back to the topic at hand $75 is very expensive for a game in the US. That is 50% more than what we are typically willing to pay. Add in to that the current recession and the fact it is likely to last at least another year and I dont see them selling a large number of boxes. On the other hand every company is free to make whatever mistakes they want to make.
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I guess you didn't know about Darkfall or you would have done the same stuff for that game since they are mirrors when talking about pre-release promises, some people camped that site for 5 years or more and guess what? It was not worth it at all and one of the worst games ever in that the Devs lied so much and delivered so little on the promises.
You are counting your chickens too early, please let us know how you feel about your purchase a month after release and once you have played the game.
It feels great to think you got a great item and are one of the few to be lucky to get it, but once you realize you were conned into it by pre-release hype/lies by Devs, then you will really be mad.
I pre-ordered AOC, WAR, also waited fro Darkfall for 3-4 months checking the site daily like a maniac(thank god not 5 years liek many of their fans) and all 3 bombed. I now know what to look for pre-release to know if Devs are lying or not, and never get excited til I try a game myself. These Devs are not being true to fans.
This game is in Alpha (no matter what rthey say it is) yet they plan to release soon? They promise more than every game has ever delivered, yet they are unknown Devs with no experience and shown very little of their game. They are accepting money, but limiting customers, can't afford a real launch or anything, so they collect money now to be able to make actual hard copies of the game.
Crazy expensive prices for an unknown Developer that has shown nothing, but promised more than anyone can believe to be true. I will wait til i try it myself before handing them even a dime.
/agree..
I havent seen any footage worth my 75 bucks right NOW..... What happened to try before you buys and stuff like free beta previews (Fileplanet did this with World of warcraft, look at what happened..)
Why fork up so much money on promises?
If I promised you that I would build you a house, would you give me the money before or AFTER i built your house?
LOL and people were crying that Darkfall's EU client and NA client were seperate purchases (like GOA War and EA War was). Looks like EU MO costs almost as much as both regions of Darkfall. Your NA price is built in, or is it? Lets see if they charge for the NA launch.
The definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
Except the fact that you paid nearly as much for a Digital Download, while in MO your getting a boxed version for this price and they already stated Digital Downloads will be much cheaper, because well you know, it doesnt cost them anything to distribute, I wonder what justification AV had to charge a Digital Download more than any boxed version.
Except the fact that you paid nearly as much for a Digital Download, while in MO your getting a boxed version for this price and they already stated Digital Downloads will be much cheaper, because well you know, it doesnt cost them anything to distribute, I wonder what justification AV had to charge a Digital Download more than any boxed version.
Steam does the same thing, they sell digital versions the same price as boxed versions... I honestly would pay $50 for the digital download instead of the boxed version because I know that I will be able to download it anywhere at any time...
That doesn't bother me, I am just skeptical of paying that much money for that pre-alpha game...
Except the fact that you paid nearly as much for a Digital Download, while in MO your getting a boxed version for this price and they already stated Digital Downloads will be much cheaper, because well you know, it doesnt cost them anything to distribute, I wonder what justification AV had to charge a Digital Download more than any boxed version.
Yeah! Maybe someone should make a "MO vs. DF & other MMO pricing comparison" thread to make things more clear.
It's sad to see how eager non-followers are to jump on the "this is a rip off" bandwagon while not reading SV's very clear explanation on this. Though it was to be expected. People have a 35-65 dollar figure in mind related to game purchases and anything which is higher means an automated negative response without diving into the available information first, (to find out that the digital dl might be cheaper than the average MMO, for instance).
My brand new bloggity blog.
Forgot to add... it cost $22 a month for the subscription... most expensive MMO I have ever seen...
This is ridiculous how can people not even do any research about the game before they post stuff.
"The monthly subscription cost of Mortal Online will be €14.25 for Europeans and $14.25 for everybody else."
Where does it say that it will cost $22 a month for the subscription?
This is ridiculous how can people not even do any research about the game before they post stuff.
"The monthly subscription cost of Mortal Online will be €14.25 for Europeans and $14.25 for everybody else."
Where does it say that it will cost $22 a month for the subscription?
Because he's not motivated with any desire to play the game; only to try and turn people away from it.
He's trolling.
And lying.
The EU darkfall client didn't cost me anything, it was free.
The account I paid for cost me 65 USD.
MO cost me 75 USD, plus I get a box and I'm guaranteed a spot on the live server. I don't think people understand this part. Not everyone that wants to play is guaranteed to be able to at release.
Once again,
They only produced a few thousand boxes.
Unless you run off several hundred thousand it costs more to make each box. What it cost SV to make the very small number of boxes they did is reflected in the price. This is true of anything. The more of an item you manufacture the less it costs.
It costs more to make 5000 DVD's then it does to make 500,000.
It's not that people dont wanna play the game. It's just very disheartening to hear that in order to preview the game to see if it is something you'd be interested in costs 75 bucks.. no matter how we choke and spit it out, it is the same puke (not literally because I think the game looks alright). But why is it a good move to charge your potential player base full price plus, for access to your alpha stage testing?
Why not charge the price for an account like the normal 15 bucks, and then if they want to buy the game they could buy the box at a later date after the beta's?
haha... right on... tell the truth brotha...
haha... right on... tell the truth brotha...
Well the truth is that the devs has already promised that you will never need too buy the game again for that reason... They also promised that they will get a NA server if the demand is big enough..... please do some research before posting lies.
And WAR did have their game divided from the start while darkfall never told their players about it and just added it after, many NA players got screwed, not same in my book.
Wait, Did I hear right? $22 a month?
I'm glad you won't be buying.
It's not a preview, it's a beta.
You're not there to preview, you're there to test and give feedback. To report bugs, imbalances, and possible exploits.
Not to get an early preview to see if the games good. It won't be.
Block A will be testing things like the launcher, woo-hoo the launcher! We'll be testing the autoupdater, swimming. Yes, SWIMMING!
No,
You didn't hear right.
It's $14.25 a month.
No,
You didn't hear right.
It's $14.25 a month.
Wrong
$14.25? oh thats cool. Stop spreading rumors people, damnit!
No,
You didn't hear right.
It's $14.25 a month.
Wrong
Yup , you are wrong indeed .
No,
You didn't hear right.
It's $14.25 a month.
Wrong
The monthly subscription cost of Mortal Online will be €14.25 for Europeans and $14.25 for everybody else. This cost is subject to change.
The monthly subscription cost includes all future updates and expansions for Mortal Online. No additional costs will be charged for future expansions.
Shop and Game Version Information on - account.mortalonline.com
When you login with your account, it appears at the bottom. Underneath News Update
All these spoilt people
This is what Aussies pay all the time.
I'm glad you won't be buying.
It's not a preview, it's a beta.
You're not there to preview, you're there to test and give feedback. To report bugs, imbalances, and possible exploits.
Not to get an early preview to see if the games good. It won't be.
Block A will be testing things like the launcher, woo-hoo the launcher! We'll be testing the autoupdater, swimming. Yes, SWIMMING!
Originally posted by Vyeth
It's not that people dont wanna play the game. It's just very disheartening to hear that in order to preview the game to see if it is something you'd be interested in costs 75 bucks.. no matter how we choke and spit it out, it is the same puke (not literally because I think the game looks alright). But why is it a good move to charge your potential player base full price plus, for access to your alpha stage testing?
Why not charge the price for an account like the normal 15 bucks, and then if they want to buy the game they could buy the box at a later date after the beta's?
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Yes that is my original post.. I may have worded it two different ways but what i meant was exactly what you said.. you are paying 75 bucks to test SWIMMING..lol.... Have fun, I'll just let you do a few laps in the water while i play DF waiting for the cheaper DD and some decent reviews on the game after you got your swimming out of your system... heh.
haha... right on... tell the truth brotha...
Well the truth is that the devs has already promised that you will never need too buy the game again for that reason... They also promised that they will get a NA server if the demand is big enough..... please do some research before posting lies.
And WAR did have their game divided from the start while darkfall never told their players about it and just added it after, many NA players got screwed, not same in my book.
BTW the NA server they were talking about is a NA beta server if the demand is there. Read that carefully, they are talking about having a server for the NA players for BETA!!!!
Now compare that to a certain other EU companies game and their NA server 5 months after the "launch" and still have to either pay to play or wait 3 months and then pay to transfer.
Big difference there, but of course the failbots already know that which is why they are over here trying to stifle this game. They can read the writing on the wall of their underpopulated servers.
$75 *laughs* seems here are some guys running mad.
why buying a box at such an insane price if nearly every " big" game can after some time be downloaded an tested for free because of the great competition in this tight market?
Who of us has plenty of his own or his dads *laughs* money to throw away?
Originally posted by Vyeth
It's not that people dont wanna play the game. It's just very disheartening to hear that in order to preview the game to see if it is something you'd be interested in costs 75 bucks.. no matter how we choke and spit it out, it is the same puke (not literally because I think the game looks alright). But why is it a good move to charge your potential player base full price plus, for access to your alpha stage testing?
Why not charge the price for an account like the normal 15 bucks, and then if they want to buy the game they could buy the box at a later date after the beta's?
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.
One reason to charge that up front fee for access to beta is the fact you will only get people dedicated to the game to help test the game and finalize it without having to wade through all the crap of people who want the game to be completely different just so they might enjoy the game.
I always get amused when a bunch of people whine about pvp elements in a game designed for pve and vice versa. There are so many games out there it is much better to pick a game that is fairly close to what you want to play rather than trying to whine a game into what you want because it never will be.
Back to the topic at hand $75 is very expensive for a game in the US. That is 50% more than what we are typically willing to pay. Add in to that the current recession and the fact it is likely to last at least another year and I dont see them selling a large number of boxes. On the other hand every company is free to make whatever mistakes they want to make.
On the other hand every company is free to make whatever mistakes they want to make.
How true, sad, but how very true.