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The exact reason why I disliked Aion was because of how similar to WoW it was. I felt like I was just playing an asian inspired version of WoW.
And, end game just is too shallow in Aion for my tastes.. it needs to have more "sides" to it. DF and Warhammer is proof that trying to build end game strictly on PVP doesn';t work so well.
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Wow this article was so SPOT ON it's not even funny! I'm right there with the OP after playing the Aion beta this past weekend! I cringe logging into WoW as I just want to play Aion, but alas, have to wait til next week friday .
Honestly, the only people who are allowed to like Aion are 15 yr old girls. It's so amazingly "Asian-trite" as I like to call it. If you like it, and you're not a 15 yr old girl, well, sorry, you have issues.
Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Honestly, the only people who are allowed to like Aion are 15 yr old girls. It's so amazingly "Asian-trite" as I like to call it. If you like it, and you're not a 15 yr old girl, well, sorry, you have issues.
Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Yea but I find it creepy that an old man is into anime...........
Honestly, the only people who are allowed to like Aion are 15 yr old girls. It's so amazingly "Asian-trite" as I like to call it. If you like it, and you're not a 15 yr old girl, well, sorry, you have issues.
Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Yea but I find it creepy that an old man is into anime...........
How do you know im an old man? Perhaps am a young nubile asian girl?
Honestly, the only people who are allowed to like Aion are 15 yr old girls. It's so amazingly "Asian-trite" as I like to call it. If you like it, and you're not a 15 yr old girl, well, sorry, you have issues.
Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Yea but I find it creepy that an old man is into anime...........
How do you know im an old man? Perhaps am a young nubile asian girl?
I dont think young girls would want to roleplay a man as old as yourself.
Honestly, the only people who are allowed to like Aion are 15 yr old girls. It's so amazingly "Asian-trite" as I like to call it. If you like it, and you're not a 15 yr old girl, well, sorry, you have issues.
Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Yea but I find it creepy that an old man is into anime...........
How do you know im an old man? Perhaps am a young nubile asian girl?
Why is it strange for an old man to be into anime?
For god sake, a comment like that could only come from an american.... i know that from your point of view an old man should be into drinking bear and get fat in front of the tv watching football, but that is only in america, the rest of the civilized world is way beyond it now
The "Someone Else" Robert has found is an out-of-date client for a closed beta of an unreleased game. I like AION too, but judging it against WoW based on what we've seen so far is ludicrous. Let them release it, let the players try 1.3 or whatever they end up using, let some real servers fill up with real customers, and do your comparison then.
I have to agree.
My first exposure to AION wasn't very good through pre-purchase and the supposed assurance of getting to play in the beta events...then them not having the client bug-free enough to even be able to ever LOG IN to the beta events, sort of soured me a bit. So I have fallen back into the...."we'll see how things go and where it's at about six months AFTER release" crowd.
After what I went through with Warhammer....I'm just not so quick to jump on the "piss off Blizz, I'm filing for a divorce" bandwagon.
I am a very casual WoW player (yeah the vile scum that ruining the game) and have played all the CB events for Aion so here are my thoughts.
Things I like about Aion:
+ I do like how Aion has actual cutscenes for some of the quests and missions. WoW looks like it will be doing more of this in the future as well.
+ Character customization is amazing and I really like how you can choose what your armor can look like and what stats it will have. I really hope the next WoW expansion has something like this.
+ The skill chains do add some variety to combat.
+ The music is great.
Things I am iffy on:
~ The voice acting is sub-par in several areas.
~ The animations are fluid but some of them are a little over the top and goofy.
~ There does seem to be a lot of running back and forth across the zone in some quests.
~ The broker is nice but could use some better sorting and functionality.
Things I do not like:
- The level and money grinds are unacceptable for NA/Euro markets. I know exp is being increased for the NA/Euro but it still feels painfully slow. If PvP in the Abyss in the whole point of the game then let me get there in a timely fashion. As someone who can only play for maybe ten hours a week it will take a several months for me to level and gear up enough so that I am even somewhat useful in PvP.
- It also feel like winning in PvP comes down to who has the biggest numbers. One of the reasons I avoid direct PvP in WoW is I usually get smeared in two or three hits and many times I am either dead or stun locked before I can even do anything.
- Low level combat for some classes is painfully slow and boring. Like Vanilla and BC WoW Paladin bad.
- XP loss at death? Nothing like a bad lag spike or monster train to negate a couple hours worth of work.
While Aion does improve some aspects of the genre WoW still feels so much more polished and cohesive.
1) Aion and WoW are both MMO's, similarities were not cloned.
2) People state wow is pve orientated with pvp tacked on to it. This might be true. But, while Aion has been described as a pvp orientated game with pve tacked onto it (like warhammer), NCSoft has stated that it realizes that any type of mmo needs a PvE orientated fan base to survive. On top of the many instances that are in there, I've read that 16 more are to be implimented at release. This goes to show you that NCSoft understands, at least the basics, to entertain a wide fan base (especially since a lot of us like PvP too).
Not only will Aion have pve dungeons/raids, they've talked about PvP dungeon instances. Something I'm LOOKING to try out myself.
3) There are complaints that there isn't a lot of diversity at beginning-game. So? Having played wow since release, I can tell you that by that month 4 during year 1 I was well versed in all the starting areas of the all the classes. And even if I was a newb at various other starting zones, you tend to get people rolling a class, then moving that toon to a starting area they're familiar with.
point: Familiarity in starting zones is common, get over it.
4) And a final note: WoW may be more 'polished' (overused term) but it was terrible at release for all you wow bandwagon jumpers. So, while I have not had the opportunity to try Aion in beta, and probably won't, I'm looking forward to starting a new game from release.
P.S. If Aion does go belly up, D3 and SC2 are around the corner. ^_- While they are blizzard games, it's hard to ignore how good they'll be.
Do you have the willpower to delete YOUR wow toons? XD
Dying in Aion does not equal a couple hours worth of XP lost. It's nowhere near that bad... I like that death has consequences... it doesn't make it so meaningless.
I was innitially a bit leary about Aion.. I have been watching it since 2006 yet what could it really give me that games such as AoC and WAR couldn't? I was pretty much sure it would be same ol same ol. Another boring game with little to offer past an imitation of the giant WoW. What happened when I actually tried it? I fell in love.
It really doesn't recreate the wheel but in my opinion it really does do many things better than any mmo game released(not across the board but the end effect is impressive). The animations are well stylized, the armor and weapons droolable, the quests(at least the storyline ones) impressive. I know what to expect from nc, I played L2 for four years and yes I've seen a large difference. At release we'll be but one month behind from Korea in updates. The old grandour of style mixed with a winning formula. If you havn't tried it your doing yourself a diservice.
I mostly agree with the OP. However, I do not think the early PvE in Aion is that amazing. It is the PvPvE that I am looking forward to. Open world PvP with dynamic objectives - fortresses and relics. Along with world bosses that compete for loot rights through PvP and damage.
Many features that I have liked in other games, including vanilla WoW, seems to be in Aion. It looks good on a paper, so I have pre-ordered, but reserve my judgement until I have participated in the end-game for some time.
Plus, it not typical high fantasy setup with dwarfs, trolls, orcs and elves. It feels fresh and that is the most important thing for most jaded MMO players.
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
"Things I do not like: - The level and money grinds are unacceptable for NA/Euro markets. I know exp is being increased for the NA/Euro but it still feels painfully slow. If PvP in the Abyss in the whole point of the game then let me get there in a timely fashion. As someone who can only play for maybe ten hours a week it will take a several months for me to level and gear up enough so that I am even somewhat useful in PvP. I for one am thankful that the level and money "grind" has some substance to it, and is not like WoW. I would not even think of calling it "painfully slow" by any means, however.
- It also feel like winning in PvP comes down to who has the biggest numbers. One of the reasons I avoid direct PvP in WoW is I usually get smeared in two or three hits and many times I am either dead or stun locked before I can even do anything. Pretty par for the course in MMORPG's - Low level combat for some classes is painfully slow and boring. Like Vanilla and BC WoW Paladin bad. I have rolled all classes and did not notice this at all - seems pretty balanced to me. - XP loss at death? Nothing like a bad lag spike or monster train to negate a couple hours worth of work. I am grateful that there is at least some amount of penalty for death - it does suck when a lag spike can wipe you out, thankfully Aion has less lag than most other games I have played. While Aion does improve some aspects of the genre WoW still feels so much more polished and cohesive. " IMO Aion is much more polished than WoW was for the first 2 years, I think it will become more so over the years as WoW did.
Honestly, the only people who are allowed to like Aion are 15 yr old girls. It's so amazingly "Asian-trite" as I like to call it. If you like it, and you're not a 15 yr old girl, well, sorry, you have issues.
Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Yea but I find it creepy that an old man is into anime...........
How do you know im an old man? Perhaps am a young nubile asian girl?
I dont agree with the creepy comment. But i do agree that it is creepy that a person named Grandpagamer would try to open the option that it is a nubile asian girl. First nubile asian girls dont advertise( I've checked), 2nd what kinda Nubile asian girl would name herself Grandpagamer. No really what kind i would really love to meet her ROFL.
Ps. More to the point WoW is like Crack with really good marketing. Sure its a great way to spend your time at first but then comes all the problems associated with doing drugs. Silly WoWTard dont you know its bad for you.
Pss. Counter Strike is like methadone for Tards of anygame. Play it Love it & then wait for the next game that is suppose to be great mmo
Honestly, the only people who are allowed to like Aion are 15 yr old girls. It's so amazingly "Asian-trite" as I like to call it. If you like it, and you're not a 15 yr old girl, well, sorry, you have issues.
Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Yea but I find it creepy that an old man is into anime...........
How do you know im an old man? Perhaps am a young nubile asian girl?
I dont agree with the creepy comment. But i do agree that it is creepy that a person named Grandpagamer would try to open the option that it is a nubile asian girl. First nubile asian girls dont advertise( I've checked), 2nd what kinda Nubile asian girl would name herself Grandpagamer. No really what kind i would really love to meet her ROFL.
Ps. More to the point WoW is like Crack with really good marketing. Sure its a great way to spend your time at first but then comes all the problems associated with doing drugs. Silly WoWTard dont you know its bad for you.
Yeah you found me out. Im an old grandpa....might be asian though
Honestly, the only people who are allowed to like Aion are 15 yr old girls. It's so amazingly "Asian-trite" as I like to call it. If you like it, and you're not a 15 yr old girl, well, sorry, you have issues.
Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Yea but I find it creepy that an old man is into anime...........
How do you know im an old man? Perhaps am a young nubile asian girl?
I dont agree with the creepy comment. But i do agree that it is creepy that a person named Grandpagamer would try to open the option that it is a nubile asian girl. First nubile asian girls dont advertise( I've checked), 2nd what kinda Nubile asian girl would name herself Grandpagamer. No really what kind i would really love to meet her ROFL.
Ps. More to the point WoW is like Crack with really good marketing. Sure its a great way to spend your time at first but then comes all the problems associated with doing drugs. Silly WoWTard dont you know its bad for you.
Yeah you found me out. Im an old grandpa....might be asian though
Whats even funnnier is that ive been a member since 06 and this is my 3rd post and all 3 were today. I read and usually keep my opinions/comments to myself . Not so much in real life so I decided to play it diffrent in gaming life.
PS. If i find the tard that took my name in Aion He's DEAD. IM A THE ORIGINAL RECKER. I HAVE BEEN USING RECKER FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS. So if you ever see Recker in a game and its not me KILL HIM( to know if its me or not just ask) you will know if its me or not by my reply HEHE.
Honestly, the only people who are allowed to like Aion are 15 yr old girls. It's so amazingly "Asian-trite" as I like to call it. If you like it, and you're not a 15 yr old girl, well, sorry, you have issues.
Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Yea but I find it creepy that an old man is into anime...........
How do you know im an old man? Perhaps am a young nubile asian girl?
I dont agree with the creepy comment. But i do agree that it is creepy that a person named Grandpagamer would try to open the option that it is a nubile asian girl. First nubile asian girls dont advertise( I've checked), 2nd what kinda Nubile asian girl would name herself Grandpagamer. No really what kind i would really love to meet her ROFL.
Ps. More to the point WoW is like Crack with really good marketing. Sure its a great way to spend your time at first but then comes all the problems associated with doing drugs. Silly WoWTard dont you know its bad for you.
Yeah you found me out. Im an old grandpa....might be asian though
Whats even funnnier is that ive been a member since 06 and this is my 3rd post and all 3 were today. I read and usually keep my opinions/comments to myself . Not so much in real life so I decided to play it diffrent in gaming life.
PS. If i find the tard that took my name in Aion He's DEAD. IM A THE ORIGINAL RECKER. I HAVE BEEN USING RECKER FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS. So if you ever see Recker in a game and its not me KILL HIM( to know if its me or not just ask) you will know if its me or not by my reply HEHE.
Ok but i might not have time to ask him lol.....if you preordered and get in on the two day head start you might be able to beat him to it if you take the name first.
Honestly, the only people who are allowed to like Aion are 15 yr old girls. It's so amazingly "Asian-trite" as I like to call it. If you like it, and you're not a 15 yr old girl, well, sorry, you have issues.
Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Yea but I find it creepy that an old man is into anime...........
How do you know im an old man? Perhaps am a young nubile asian girl?
I dont agree with the creepy comment. But i do agree that it is creepy that a person named Grandpagamer would try to open the option that it is a nubile asian girl. First nubile asian girls dont advertise( I've checked), 2nd what kinda Nubile asian girl would name herself Grandpagamer. No really what kind i would really love to meet her ROFL.
Ps. More to the point WoW is like Crack with really good marketing. Sure its a great way to spend your time at first but then comes all the problems associated with doing drugs. Silly WoWTard dont you know its bad for you.
Yeah you found me out. Im an old grandpa....might be asian though
Whats even funnnier is that ive been a member since 06 and this is my 3rd post and all 3 were today. I read and usually keep my opinions/comments to myself . Not so much in real life so I decided to play it diffrent in gaming life.
PS. If i find the tard that took my name in Aion He's DEAD. IM A THE ORIGINAL RECKER. I HAVE BEEN USING RECKER FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS. So if you ever see Recker in a game and its not me KILL HIM( to know if its me or not just ask) you will know if its me or not by my reply HEHE.
Ok but i might not have time to ask him lol.....if you preordered and get in on the two day head start you might be able to beat him to it if you take the name first.
Yeah i did preorder even though i wasnt going to. I want the extra stuff/ early access. I better get my name or its off with his testicles with a splintered wooden spoon.
Gee it sounds from the article that Aion is a lot like WoW used to be. Give it time and Aion will make the same mistakes and follow the same path to stop players from moving on to the next game.
<shrug> I left WoW when it ceased to be fun and not long after that (over the next six months) most of the people I played with left too. I'm now happily playing a game I enjoy that doesn't make demands on my time to progress or raid or anything else, and I'm thoroughly enjoying it. A good story, fun play and good looking graphics if not top of the line are more then enough for me.
Fantasy games...bleh EQ beta to six months ago I'd played most of them. I'm an older more mature gamer now and a lot more discerning in what I want from a game. After being involved with over 30 betas in 11 years I don't even bother trying to get involved in betas. Companies will release what they want to and rarely if ever listen to beta testers. I have better things to do with my time.
Bring back paid beta testers and we'll get product that actually is worth the money we pay to play. This majority of players fanboi's or wanting an early chance to play simply isn't working.
Aion may look pretty but honestly what game doesn't these days. They've done a nice job of taking combos from EQ II and LotRO and incorporating them intot heir combat system but at the end of the day it's the same old rat and the same old intermittent reward system. No longer enough. A few games are getting the reward system right but at the end of the day I want my game time to be enjoyable AND productive so I can complete the things I want to complete.
All new mmo should take after Eve online. I'll admit that eve online has its faults(you cant please everybody) but it has something that no other game does. I dont like explaining what that is but to understand you would have to spend some time playing Eve. To understand what EVE has to offer in its entirety would take atleast 6months to a year or hardcore gaming.
Yeah so I was checking out this new WoW patch with my bro and jesus christ!!!! I took one look of that stupid freaking one room 5 man dungeon with the horses and made fun of him for an hour for playing such a crappy game. The god damn thing drops Epics, can they make this bastard any easier?
Blizzard has lost it, thank god they have enough addicts to keep it going.
I was playing a rehashed version of Lineage 2 but my character has wings.
............................................ Lineage 2 is a much harsher world ..... lol how long did you even play lineage2?
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The exact reason why I disliked Aion was because of how similar to WoW it was. I felt like I was just playing an asian inspired version of WoW.
And, end game just is too shallow in Aion for my tastes.. it needs to have more "sides" to it. DF and Warhammer is proof that trying to build end game strictly on PVP doesn';t work so well.
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Wow this article was so SPOT ON it's not even funny! I'm right there with the OP after playing the Aion beta this past weekend! I cringe logging into WoW as I just want to play Aion, but alas, have to wait til next week friday
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Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Yea but I find it creepy that an old man is into anime...........
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Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Yea but I find it creepy that an old man is into anime...........
How do you know im an old man? Perhaps am a young nubile asian girl?
Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Yea but I find it creepy that an old man is into anime...........
How do you know im an old man? Perhaps am a young nubile asian girl?
I dont think young girls would want to roleplay a man as old as yourself.
Currently restarting World of Warcraft
Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Yea but I find it creepy that an old man is into anime...........
How do you know im an old man? Perhaps am a young nubile asian girl?
Why is it strange for an old man to be into anime?
For god sake, a comment like that could only come from an american.... i know that from your point of view an old man should be into drinking bear and get fat in front of the tv watching football, but that is only in america, the rest of the civilized world is way beyond it now
I have to agree.
My first exposure to AION wasn't very good through pre-purchase and the supposed assurance of getting to play in the beta events...then them not having the client bug-free enough to even be able to ever LOG IN to the beta events, sort of soured me a bit. So I have fallen back into the...."we'll see how things go and where it's at about six months AFTER release" crowd.
After what I went through with Warhammer....I'm just not so quick to jump on the "piss off Blizz, I'm filing for a divorce" bandwagon.
Time will tell.....for ME.
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That article represents exactly how I feel about WoW and Aion. I just quit WoW hopefully for the last time. Great job writing that up.
I am a very casual WoW player (yeah the vile scum that ruining the game) and have played all the CB events for Aion so here are my thoughts.
Things I like about Aion:
+ I do like how Aion has actual cutscenes for some of the quests and missions. WoW looks like it will be doing more of this in the future as well.
+ Character customization is amazing and I really like how you can choose what your armor can look like and what stats it will have. I really hope the next WoW expansion has something like this.
+ The skill chains do add some variety to combat.
+ The music is great.
Things I am iffy on:
~ The voice acting is sub-par in several areas.
~ The animations are fluid but some of them are a little over the top and goofy.
~ There does seem to be a lot of running back and forth across the zone in some quests.
~ The broker is nice but could use some better sorting and functionality.
Things I do not like:
- The level and money grinds are unacceptable for NA/Euro markets. I know exp is being increased for the NA/Euro but it still feels painfully slow. If PvP in the Abyss in the whole point of the game then let me get there in a timely fashion. As someone who can only play for maybe ten hours a week it will take a several months for me to level and gear up enough so that I am even somewhat useful in PvP.
- It also feel like winning in PvP comes down to who has the biggest numbers. One of the reasons I avoid direct PvP in WoW is I usually get smeared in two or three hits and many times I am either dead or stun locked before I can even do anything.
- Low level combat for some classes is painfully slow and boring. Like Vanilla and BC WoW Paladin bad.
- XP loss at death? Nothing like a bad lag spike or monster train to negate a couple hours worth of work.
While Aion does improve some aspects of the genre WoW still feels so much more polished and cohesive.
1) Aion and WoW are both MMO's, similarities were not cloned.
2) People state wow is pve orientated with pvp tacked on to it. This might be true. But, while Aion has been described as a pvp orientated game with pve tacked onto it (like warhammer), NCSoft has stated that it realizes that any type of mmo needs a PvE orientated fan base to survive. On top of the many instances that are in there, I've read that 16 more are to be implimented at release. This goes to show you that NCSoft understands, at least the basics, to entertain a wide fan base (especially since a lot of us like PvP too).
Not only will Aion have pve dungeons/raids, they've talked about PvP dungeon instances. Something I'm LOOKING to try out myself.
3) There are complaints that there isn't a lot of diversity at beginning-game. So? Having played wow since release, I can tell you that by that month 4 during year 1 I was well versed in all the starting areas of the all the classes. And even if I was a newb at various other starting zones, you tend to get people rolling a class, then moving that toon to a starting area they're familiar with.
point: Familiarity in starting zones is common, get over it.
4) And a final note: WoW may be more 'polished' (overused term) but it was terrible at release for all you wow bandwagon jumpers. So, while I have not had the opportunity to try Aion in beta, and probably won't, I'm looking forward to starting a new game from release.
P.S. If Aion does go belly up, D3 and SC2 are around the corner. ^_- While they are blizzard games, it's hard to ignore how good they'll be.
Do you have the willpower to delete YOUR wow toons? XD
[Retired: WoW, RO, EvE, WaR, AoC, LoTR]
Dying in Aion does not equal a couple hours worth of XP lost. It's nowhere near that bad... I like that death has consequences... it doesn't make it so meaningless.
I was innitially a bit leary about Aion.. I have been watching it since 2006 yet what could it really give me that games such as AoC and WAR couldn't? I was pretty much sure it would be same ol same ol. Another boring game with little to offer past an imitation of the giant WoW. What happened when I actually tried it? I fell in love.
It really doesn't recreate the wheel but in my opinion it really does do many things better than any mmo game released(not across the board but the end effect is impressive). The animations are well stylized, the armor and weapons droolable, the quests(at least the storyline ones) impressive. I know what to expect from nc, I played L2 for four years and yes I've seen a large difference. At release we'll be but one month behind from Korea in updates. The old grandour of style mixed with a winning formula. If you havn't tried it your doing yourself a diservice.
I mostly agree with the OP. However, I do not think the early PvE in Aion is that amazing. It is the PvPvE that I am looking forward to. Open world PvP with dynamic objectives - fortresses and relics. Along with world bosses that compete for loot rights through PvP and damage.
Many features that I have liked in other games, including vanilla WoW, seems to be in Aion. It looks good on a paper, so I have pre-ordered, but reserve my judgement until I have participated in the end-game for some time.
Plus, it not typical high fantasy setup with dwarfs, trolls, orcs and elves. It feels fresh and that is the most important thing for most jaded MMO players.
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Yea but I find it creepy that an old man is into anime...........
How do you know im an old man? Perhaps am a young nubile asian girl?
I dont agree with the creepy comment. But i do agree that it is creepy that a person named Grandpagamer would try to open the option that it is a nubile asian girl. First nubile asian girls dont advertise( I've checked), 2nd what kinda Nubile asian girl would name herself Grandpagamer. No really what kind i would really love to meet her ROFL.
Ps. More to the point WoW is like Crack with really good marketing. Sure its a great way to spend your time at first but then comes all the problems associated with doing drugs. Silly WoWTard dont you know its bad for you.
Pss. Counter Strike is like methadone for Tards of anygame. Play it Love it & then wait for the next game that is suppose to be great mmo
Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Yea but I find it creepy that an old man is into anime...........
How do you know im an old man? Perhaps am a young nubile asian girl?
I dont agree with the creepy comment. But i do agree that it is creepy that a person named Grandpagamer would try to open the option that it is a nubile asian girl. First nubile asian girls dont advertise( I've checked), 2nd what kinda Nubile asian girl would name herself Grandpagamer. No really what kind i would really love to meet her ROFL.
Ps. More to the point WoW is like Crack with really good marketing. Sure its a great way to spend your time at first but then comes all the problems associated with doing drugs. Silly WoWTard dont you know its bad for you.
Yeah you found me out. Im an old grandpa....might be asian though
Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Yea but I find it creepy that an old man is into anime...........
How do you know im an old man? Perhaps am a young nubile asian girl?
I dont agree with the creepy comment. But i do agree that it is creepy that a person named Grandpagamer would try to open the option that it is a nubile asian girl. First nubile asian girls dont advertise( I've checked), 2nd what kinda Nubile asian girl would name herself Grandpagamer. No really what kind i would really love to meet her ROFL.
Ps. More to the point WoW is like Crack with really good marketing. Sure its a great way to spend your time at first but then comes all the problems associated with doing drugs. Silly WoWTard dont you know its bad for you.
Yeah you found me out. Im an old grandpa....might be asian though
Whats even funnnier is that ive been a member since 06 and this is my 3rd post and all 3 were today. I read and usually keep my opinions/comments to myself . Not so much in real life so I decided to play it diffrent in gaming life.
PS. If i find the tard that took my name in Aion He's DEAD. IM A THE ORIGINAL RECKER. I HAVE BEEN USING RECKER FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS. So if you ever see Recker in a game and its not me KILL HIM( to know if its me or not just ask) you will know if its me or not by my reply HEHE.
Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Yea but I find it creepy that an old man is into anime...........
How do you know im an old man? Perhaps am a young nubile asian girl?
I dont agree with the creepy comment. But i do agree that it is creepy that a person named Grandpagamer would try to open the option that it is a nubile asian girl. First nubile asian girls dont advertise( I've checked), 2nd what kinda Nubile asian girl would name herself Grandpagamer. No really what kind i would really love to meet her ROFL.
Ps. More to the point WoW is like Crack with really good marketing. Sure its a great way to spend your time at first but then comes all the problems associated with doing drugs. Silly WoWTard dont you know its bad for you.
Yeah you found me out. Im an old grandpa....might be asian though
Whats even funnnier is that ive been a member since 06 and this is my 3rd post and all 3 were today. I read and usually keep my opinions/comments to myself . Not so much in real life so I decided to play it diffrent in gaming life.
PS. If i find the tard that took my name in Aion He's DEAD. IM A THE ORIGINAL RECKER. I HAVE BEEN USING RECKER FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS. So if you ever see Recker in a game and its not me KILL HIM( to know if its me or not just ask) you will know if its me or not by my reply HEHE.
Ok but i might not have time to ask him lol.....if you preordered and get in on the two day head start you might be able to beat him to it if you take the name first.
Oh look, another internet Tough Guy with his sexual identity wrapped up in a video game. What a petty, shallow way of viewing the world.
I dont understand it myself. I think games like Aion, Lineage 2 and GW along with a lot of FTP games have a very fresh art look compared to the "realistic" art we have seen so much of. I guess not all of us are insecure about our masculinity. I mean, look at my profile pic.
Yea but I find it creepy that an old man is into anime...........
How do you know im an old man? Perhaps am a young nubile asian girl?
I dont agree with the creepy comment. But i do agree that it is creepy that a person named Grandpagamer would try to open the option that it is a nubile asian girl. First nubile asian girls dont advertise( I've checked), 2nd what kinda Nubile asian girl would name herself Grandpagamer. No really what kind i would really love to meet her ROFL.
Ps. More to the point WoW is like Crack with really good marketing. Sure its a great way to spend your time at first but then comes all the problems associated with doing drugs. Silly WoWTard dont you know its bad for you.
Yeah you found me out. Im an old grandpa....might be asian though
Whats even funnnier is that ive been a member since 06 and this is my 3rd post and all 3 were today. I read and usually keep my opinions/comments to myself . Not so much in real life so I decided to play it diffrent in gaming life.
PS. If i find the tard that took my name in Aion He's DEAD. IM A THE ORIGINAL RECKER. I HAVE BEEN USING RECKER FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS. So if you ever see Recker in a game and its not me KILL HIM( to know if its me or not just ask) you will know if its me or not by my reply HEHE.
Ok but i might not have time to ask him lol.....if you preordered and get in on the two day head start you might be able to beat him to it if you take the name first.
Yeah i did preorder even though i wasnt going to. I want the extra stuff/ early access. I better get my name or its off with his testicles with a splintered wooden spoon.
Gee it sounds from the article that Aion is a lot like WoW used to be. Give it time and Aion will make the same mistakes and follow the same path to stop players from moving on to the next game.
<shrug> I left WoW when it ceased to be fun and not long after that (over the next six months) most of the people I played with left too. I'm now happily playing a game I enjoy that doesn't make demands on my time to progress or raid or anything else, and I'm thoroughly enjoying it. A good story, fun play and good looking graphics if not top of the line are more then enough for me.
Fantasy games...bleh EQ beta to six months ago I'd played most of them. I'm an older more mature gamer now and a lot more discerning in what I want from a game. After being involved with over 30 betas in 11 years I don't even bother trying to get involved in betas. Companies will release what they want to and rarely if ever listen to beta testers. I have better things to do with my time.
Bring back paid beta testers and we'll get product that actually is worth the money we pay to play. This majority of players fanboi's or wanting an early chance to play simply isn't working.
Aion may look pretty but honestly what game doesn't these days. They've done a nice job of taking combos from EQ II and LotRO and incorporating them intot heir combat system but at the end of the day it's the same old rat and the same old intermittent reward system. No longer enough. A few games are getting the reward system right but at the end of the day I want my game time to be enjoyable AND productive so I can complete the things I want to complete.
All new mmo should take after Eve online. I'll admit that eve online has its faults(you cant please everybody) but it has something that no other game does. I dont like explaining what that is but to understand you would have to spend some time playing Eve. To understand what EVE has to offer in its entirety would take atleast 6months to a year or hardcore gaming.
Yeah so I was checking out this new WoW patch with my bro and jesus christ!!!! I took one look of that stupid freaking one room 5 man dungeon with the horses and made fun of him for an hour for playing such a crappy game. The god damn thing drops Epics, can they make this bastard any easier?
Blizzard has lost it, thank god they have enough addicts to keep it going.
OP i dont blame you for leaving lol.
GL with Aion
Playing: EvE, Ryzom
Same for me. Well, I've actually stopped playing WoW awhile ago, but with Aion on the horizon, I don't think I'll be resubbing to WoW.
............................................ Lineage 2 is a much harsher world ..... lol how long did you even play lineage2?
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