The raid/dungeon they added is basically one room and the rest of the crap is anti twink shit they should have put in a very long time ago.
I do like the druid graphic changes however lol!
keep crying man, sooner or later the addicts will see behind blizzards con job and realize they get near no content considering the amount of money they dish out to blizzard.
To each their own. Everyone likes different things than everyone else. There is no need to fight or argue over it. What WoW doesn't do for me it does well for millions of others. What Aion does for me won't necessarilly impress or captivate others.
It still pisses me off when people make gross stereotypes and assumptions when they've clearly not put in the effort to try or even research a game before juding it. This is the type of crap MMORPG.com is famous for, and it's nice to see it isn't as bad as it used to be.
The graphics are good in some areas, yes, but in others they lack polish and seem like they were done quickly and haphazzardly. The combat, though more in depth then say WoW, is still not much different and to be honest I feel WoW's is more fluid than what we see in Aion. The PvP part of the game got old really fast.
Hahahahahahaha ... OMG Teala, I just shot coffee outta my nose!
All this from the girl who got all pie-eyed for Vanguard? I remember the "disagreements" we used to have over on the Vault boards ... those were the days ...
Anyway ...
AIONs character models do not look plastic, and the game is FAR more polished than Vanguard is. Also, I think it's safe to say that everything in Vanguard was thrown together haphazardly. As far as "Eve and WoW" ... you must of smoked yourself stupid if you think either of those games holds a candle graphically to AION.
Please, WoW more fluid? Put down the bong before the damage is permanent!
The pvp is much, much better than VGs, or WoWs pvp. And besides, you wouldn't know good pvp if it jumped up and kicked the bowl outta your mouth.
The graphics are good in some areas, yes, but in others they lack polish and seem like they were done quickly and haphazzardly. The combat, though more in depth then say WoW, is still not much different and to be honest I feel WoW's is more fluid than what we see in Aion. The PvP part of the game got old really fast.
Hahahahahahaha ... OMG Teala, I just shot coffee outta my nose!
All this from the girl who got all pie-eyed for Vanguard? I remember the "disagreements" we used to have over on the Vault boards ... those were the days ...
Anyway ...
AIONs character models do not look plastic, and the game is FAR more polished than Vanguard is. Also, I think it's safe to say that everything in Vanguard was thrown together haphazardly. As far as "Eve and WoW" ... you must of smoked yourself stupid if you think either of those games holds a candle graphically to AION.
Please, WoW more fluid? Put down the bong before the damage is permanent!
The pvp is much, much better than VGs, or WoWs pvp. And besides, you wouldn't know good pvp if it jumped up and kicked the bowl outta your mouth.
I wish you themepark babies would get Eve out of your mouths already.
If aion had the complexity of Eve it would kill WoW.
Im in the beta.. played for 2 weekends. All i saw was crappy graphics made to look nice with light blur effects. Invisible walls over everything... railings, bushes, small ledges and walls. Its the same... click and spam skills formula so no difference there. The flying can be replicated easily, just make wow flying mounts insta cast and u can fight on them and they only last one minute...
I honestly didnt see anything that made it any different from wow.. u cant even use your wings in most area cause there are no fly zones. Wow had the excuses that they didnt have flying mounts in azeroth and that why u can fly there. What is aions excuse for the multiple areas that u cant fly in.
The game lacks any form of immersion, the character creation is cool unless u want to make a young character then the youngest voice u can get is the guy who did Prince Zuko on avatar the last airbender.
If anything the game is a step backwards from the RPG part of mmorpg. You start feeling cool when you get wings and your like "im gonna jump this rail and glide down to the water" so you try only to smack into an invisible wall over this tiny rail which wouldnt matter cause for some reason your character doent float but rather can walk on the bottom of a lake so he can drown.
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
It's the same story all the time. Some new game gets ready to be released and we start seeing articles on how great this new game is in beta and how it will be the WoW killer and me and my 100 guildmates are quitting WoW and joining 'new game'. Then 6 months passes, the new game isn't so new anymore, there isn't as much content being added, it's not as much fun playing an alt, etc. Meanwhile, Blizzard keeps on chugging along, Blizzcon or some other trade shows comes along and they tease with a new expansion. Little by little that guy who moved over with his 100 guildmates starts to see less and less of his guild online. Then Blizzard releases a major patch prior to the expansion, more guildies start coming back. Then the expansion is launched and what was once 100 guildmates is now 10-15 (you know, those that are the hardcore PvP'ers).
It amazes me that there are people to come to this website still being delusional that somehow, someway it will be different this time. And that you can make that determination by just playing the beta. Never played the end-game, where a successfull game retains a majority of it's players. We saw this with WAR (remember, that was supposed to be THE GAME, you know, because it's Warhammer). We saw it with AoC (forgetting it was Funcom running the game). Now we see it with Aion. I'm sure we'll see it Star Wars whenever Bioware gets around to releasing it.
I'm happy the OP likes Aion. I'm not surprised that he's bored with WoW, most are. But lets not kid ourselves. It's just temporary. It's ALWAYS temporary. It's been temporary for 5 years now. It's going to continue to be temporary for the forseeable future. The haters don't want to hear that. They want a replacement NOW. That fine. Good luck with your replacement. When the next WoW expansion launches with new races, a new continent and a bunch of other stuff, I'm sure Blizzard will welcome you (and your subscription dollars) back. Remember, it's not personal.
It's the same story all the time. Some new game gets ready to be released and we start seeing articles on how great this new game is in beta and how it will be the WoW killer and me and my 100 guildmates are quitting WoW and joining 'new game'. Then 6 months passes, the new game isn't so new anymore, there isn't as much content being added, it's not as much fun playing an alt, etc. Meanwhile, Blizzard keeps on chugging along, Blizzcon or some other trade shows comes along and they tease with a new expansion. Little by little that guy who moved over with his 100 guildmates starts to see less and less of his guild online. Then Blizzard releases a major patch prior to the expansion, more guildies start coming back. Then the expansion is launched and what was once 100 guildmates is now 10-15 (you know, those that are the hardcore PvP'ers). It amazes me that there are people to come to this website still being delusional that somehow, someway it will be different this time. And that you can make that determination by just playing the beta. Never played the end-game, where a successfull game retains a majority of it's players. We saw this with WAR (remember, that was supposed to be THE GAME, you know, because it's Warhammer). We saw it with AoC (forgetting it was Funcom running the game). Now we see it with Aion. I'm sure we'll see it Star Wars whenever Bioware gets around to releasing it. I'm happy the OP likes Aion. I'm not surprised that he's bored with WoW, most are. But lets not kid ourselves. It's just temporary. It's ALWAYS temporary. It's been temporary for 5 years now. It's going to continue to be temporary for the forseeable future. The haters don't want to hear that. They want a replacement NOW. That fine. Good luck with your replacement. When Emerald Dream launches with new races, a new continent and a bunch of other stuff, I'm sure Blizzard will welcome you (and your subscription dollars) back. Remember, it's not personal.
dont forget darkfall and their awesome double charges
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
It's the same story all the time. Some new game gets ready to be released and we start seeing articles on how great this new game is in beta and how it will be the WoW killer and me and my 100 guildmates are quitting WoW and joining 'new game'. Then 6 months passes, the new game isn't so new anymore, there isn't as much content being added, it's not as much fun playing an alt, etc. Meanwhile, Blizzard keeps on chugging along, Blizzcon or some other trade shows comes along and they tease with a new expansion. Little by little that guy who moved over with his 100 guildmates starts to see less and less of his guild online. Then Blizzard releases a major patch prior to the expansion, more guildies start coming back. Then the expansion is launched and what was once 100 guildmates is now 10-15 (you know, those that are the hardcore PvP'ers). It amazes me that there are people to come to this website still being delusional that somehow, someway it will be different this time. And that you can make that determination by just playing the beta. Never played the end-game, where a successfull game retains a majority of it's players. We saw this with WAR (remember, that was supposed to be THE GAME, you know, because it's Warhammer). We saw it with AoC (forgetting it was Funcom running the game). Now we see it with Aion. I'm sure we'll see it Star Wars whenever Bioware gets around to releasing it. I'm happy the OP likes Aion. I'm not surprised that he's bored with WoW, most are. But lets not kid ourselves. It's just temporary. It's ALWAYS temporary. It's been temporary for 5 years now. It's going to continue to be temporary for the forseeable future. The haters don't want to hear that. They want a replacement NOW. That fine. Good luck with your replacement. When Emerald Dream launches with new races, a new continent and a bunch of other stuff, I'm sure Blizzard will welcome you (and your subscription dollars) back. Remember, it's not personal.
The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
Im in the beta.. played for 2 weekends. All i saw was crappy graphics made to look nice with light blur effects. Invisible walls over everything... railings, bushes, small ledges and walls. Its the same... click and spam skills formula so no difference there. The flying can be replicated easily, just make wow flying mounts insta cast and u can fight on them and they only last one minute... I honestly didnt see anything that made it any different from wow.. u cant even use your wings in most area cause there are no fly zones. Wow had the excuses that they didnt have flying mounts in azeroth and that why u can fly there. What is aions excuse for the multiple areas that u cant fly in. The game lacks any form of immersion, the character creation is cool unless u want to make a young character then the youngest voice u can get is the guy who did Prince Zuko on avatar the last airbender. If anything the game is a step backwards from the RPG part of mmorpg. You start feeling cool when you get wings and your like "im gonna jump this rail and glide down to the water" so you try only to smack into an invisible wall over this tiny rail which wouldnt matter cause for some reason your character doent float but rather can walk on the bottom of a lake so he can drown.
I had the same feeling. I joined Aion beta after friends showered tons of praise on it. The first weekend, I enjoyed playing with them, but the game itself was not immersive to me. I played Wow years ago for maybe 6 months, and it never really hooked me either. My friends loved Wow, so I was thinking they liked Aion as Wow in a different setting. I wasn't even going to try the next beta weekend, but I wanted to like the game to play with my friends and figured maybe crafting would get me hooked. The second beta weekend sealed it. It just doesn't appeal to me.
I can understand the Wow lovers liking it, but I don't see it as anything new or different aside from being able to fly without a mount. I'll pass for now and hold out for KOTR and FFXIV.
I wish you themepark babies would get Eve out of your mouths already. If aion had the complexity of Eve it would kill WoW. And yes Eve fucking owns Aion in graphics.
And Ultima Online pre-trammel owns any MMO you've ever played ...
First off, I am not a Wow player anymore, I have 5 60's sitting on a server, most drapped in raid gear for that period, never was convinced to try it again when the various expansions came out.
Aion, while it looks great and seems to offer new things to the MMO mix is probably not the answer. Flight mechanics are extremely limited, you want flight, go play Perfect World, they actually made a game where flght works. Secondly, we are talking NCSoft here, bots incorporated. as most of us call them. What makes you think they will actually attempt to control them in their new game?
I do agree that Aion seems to blend pve and pvp better than most games. The game has decent lore and a host of quests. I wish NCSoft success. It would be nice to have a real competitor for Wow out there.
Personally, you want the next big game in the genre, look at the unannounced MMO that Blizzard is working on. Blizzard is the one of the few companies that really understands this genre so far. Of course Bioware could surprise us with the Star Wars version.
Oh and Drakken, I could not agree more, early UO has never been surpassed.
It's the same story all the time. Some new game gets ready to be released and we start seeing articles on how great this new game is in beta and how it will be the WoW killer and me and my 100 guildmates are quitting WoW and joining 'new game'. Then 6 months passes, the new game isn't so new anymore, there isn't as much content being added, it's not as much fun playing an alt, etc. Meanwhile, Blizzard keeps on chugging along, Blizzcon or some other trade shows comes along and they tease with a new expansion. Little by little that guy who moved over with his 100 guildmates starts to see less and less of his guild online. Then Blizzard releases a major patch prior to the expansion, more guildies start coming back. Then the expansion is launched and what was once 100 guildmates is now 10-15 (you know, those that are the hardcore PvP'ers). It amazes me that there are people to come to this website still being delusional that somehow, someway it will be different this time. And that you can make that determination by just playing the beta. Never played the end-game, where a successfull game retains a majority of it's players. We saw this with WAR (remember, that was supposed to be THE GAME, you know, because it's Warhammer). We saw it with AoC (forgetting it was Funcom running the game). Now we see it with Aion. I'm sure we'll see it Star Wars whenever Bioware gets around to releasing it. I'm happy the OP likes Aion. I'm not surprised that he's bored with WoW, most are. But lets not kid ourselves. It's just temporary. It's ALWAYS temporary. It's been temporary for 5 years now. It's going to continue to be temporary for the forseeable future. The haters don't want to hear that. They want a replacement NOW. That fine. Good luck with your replacement. When Emerald Dream launches with new races, a new continent and a bunch of other stuff, I'm sure Blizzard will welcome you (and your subscription dollars) back. Remember, it's not personal.
The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
niche game is a nice way of saying that the developers were too poor or too lazy to implement more than few interesting game mechanics. For instance u have eve, the developers just put in more zones with a copy paste backround and call in content. If they took some time and money and put in some immersions it would be alot better. The same things is with aion. They took the face maker from oblivion and the graphics design of fable, and then they made a crappy world full of invisible walls and blured light effects. Its not even open world. Have you seen the starting area or played through it? Its a long S shaped path and when you make it to the end of it you get your wings. You wanna fly from the starting area over the mountains to some other area... well guess what u cant cause there is a huge invisible wall over the mountains and u can only fly for a minute. This game is far more theme park like and linear than wow ever thought about being. At least in wow if wanna climb the mountains in crossroads and jump to your death in duskwallow marsh you are free to do so. In aion u can even jump over some step rails.
not to mention that u cant swim and the youngest male voice is done but the guy that did prince zuko of avatar the last airbender.(both of these really get me)
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
I wish you themepark babies would get Eve out of your mouths already. If aion had the complexity of Eve it would kill WoW. And yes Eve fucking owns Aion in graphics.
And Ultima Online pre-trammel owns any MMO you've ever played ...
It's the same story all the time. Some new game gets ready to be released and we start seeing articles on how great this new game is in beta and how it will be the WoW killer and me and my 100 guildmates are quitting WoW and joining 'new game'. Then 6 months passes, the new game isn't so new anymore, there isn't as much content being added, it's not as much fun playing an alt, etc. Meanwhile, Blizzard keeps on chugging along, Blizzcon or some other trade shows comes along and they tease with a new expansion. Little by little that guy who moved over with his 100 guildmates starts to see less and less of his guild online. Then Blizzard releases a major patch prior to the expansion, more guildies start coming back. Then the expansion is launched and what was once 100 guildmates is now 10-15 (you know, those that are the hardcore PvP'ers). It amazes me that there are people to come to this website still being delusional that somehow, someway it will be different this time. And that you can make that determination by just playing the beta. Never played the end-game, where a successfull game retains a majority of it's players. We saw this with WAR (remember, that was supposed to be THE GAME, you know, because it's Warhammer). We saw it with AoC (forgetting it was Funcom running the game). Now we see it with Aion. I'm sure we'll see it Star Wars whenever Bioware gets around to releasing it. I'm happy the OP likes Aion. I'm not surprised that he's bored with WoW, most are. But lets not kid ourselves. It's just temporary. It's ALWAYS temporary. It's been temporary for 5 years now. It's going to continue to be temporary for the forseeable future. The haters don't want to hear that. They want a replacement NOW. That fine. Good luck with your replacement. When Emerald Dream launches with new races, a new continent and a bunch of other stuff, I'm sure Blizzard will welcome you (and your subscription dollars) back. Remember, it's not personal.
The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
But that's the thing, WAR is not better than Wow, not when you compare the entire package. Does it do PvP better than WoW. Yes it does. But as a whole it doesn't do a whole lot of other things better than WoW. See here is the problem and this applies to the OP. He says he's been playing WoW for 3+ years. Well when you been playing something for that long, you get used to the way things are in that game and expect that some type of polish in the next game. You expect the game to not be a grind because it never felt like a grind in WoW. If it did you wouldn't have played WoW for 3+ years.
My point is how does the OP make the determination that Aion is a better game than WoW when he's only played the beta? He played and (obviously) enjoyed WoW for 3+ years and all of a sudden a game with flashy graphics is going to be the end all because he played it on a weekend? What happens when he gets into the meat of the game in Aion and realizes that there isn't much more substance to what he saw in the beta? What happens when he's 6 months into Aion and realizes that PvP in the Abyss is boring as hell since it's the same crap over and over? Maybe that won't happen, but it usually does because we've seen it now with every other game that has launched since WoW launched.
It's the same story all the time. Some new game gets ready to be released and we start seeing articles on how great this new game is in beta and how it will be the WoW killer and me and my 100 guildmates are quitting WoW and joining 'new game'. Then 6 months passes, the new game isn't so new anymore, there isn't as much content being added, it's not as much fun playing an alt, etc. Meanwhile, Blizzard keeps on chugging along, Blizzcon or some other trade shows comes along and they tease with a new expansion. Little by little that guy who moved over with his 100 guildmates starts to see less and less of his guild online. Then Blizzard releases a major patch prior to the expansion, more guildies start coming back. Then the expansion is launched and what was once 100 guildmates is now 10-15 (you know, those that are the hardcore PvP'ers). It amazes me that there are people to come to this website still being delusional that somehow, someway it will be different this time. And that you can make that determination by just playing the beta. Never played the end-game, where a successfull game retains a majority of it's players. We saw this with WAR (remember, that was supposed to be THE GAME, you know, because it's Warhammer). We saw it with AoC (forgetting it was Funcom running the game). Now we see it with Aion. I'm sure we'll see it Star Wars whenever Bioware gets around to releasing it. I'm happy the OP likes Aion. I'm not surprised that he's bored with WoW, most are. But lets not kid ourselves. It's just temporary. It's ALWAYS temporary. It's been temporary for 5 years now. It's going to continue to be temporary for the forseeable future. The haters don't want to hear that. They want a replacement NOW. That fine. Good luck with your replacement. When Emerald Dream launches with new races, a new continent and a bunch of other stuff, I'm sure Blizzard will welcome you (and your subscription dollars) back. Remember, it's not personal.
The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
niche game is a nice way of saying that the developers were too poor or too lazy to implement more than few interesting game mechanics. For instance u have eve, the developers just put in more zones with a copy paste backround and call in content. If they took some time and money and put in some immersions it would be alot better. The same things is with aion. They took the face maker from oblivion and the graphics design of fable, and then they made a crappy world full of invisible walls and blured light effects. Its not even open world. Have you seen the starting area or played through it? Its a long S shaped path and when you make it to the end of it you get your wings. You wanna fly from the starting area over the mountains to some other area... well guess what u cant cause there is a huge invisible wall over the mountains and u can only fly for a minute. This game is far more theme park like and linear than wow ever thought about being. At least in wow if wanna climb the mountains in crossroads and jump to your death in duskwallow marsh you are free to do so. In aion u can even jump over some step rails.
not to mention that u cant swim and the youngest male voice is done but the guy that did prince zuko of avatar the last airbender.(both of these really get me)
Copy and pasting content? you play WoW and you say eves developers copy and paste content? how many times have you fought the same mob skin over and over again? how many lame dungeons will blizzard release with reused raid strats?
LOL I don;t even care for Aion tbh, What i can relate to is the OPs dislike for WoW wich I totally agree with.
And no niche isnt a cop out, Certain developers want to make a pvp focused game or a crafting heavy game or a game with freedom and exploration. Not every game wants to be average like WoW in every way.
Jack of all trades may get more subs but sooner or later players that like pvp more will leave and players that like crafting or raid content more will leave since WoW is average in all areas.
Sorry but games like DAoc, WAR and AOC have better pvp. Games like EQ2, Lotro and others have better pve and games like Vanguard have much better crafting systems. when you decide to focus on a few mechanics and make a niche MMO its not a cop out.
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
It's the same story all the time. Some new game gets ready to be released and we start seeing articles on how great this new game is in beta and how it will be the WoW killer and me and my 100 guildmates are quitting WoW and joining 'new game'. Then 6 months passes, the new game isn't so new anymore, there isn't as much content being added, it's not as much fun playing an alt, etc. Meanwhile, Blizzard keeps on chugging along, Blizzcon or some other trade shows comes along and they tease with a new expansion. Little by little that guy who moved over with his 100 guildmates starts to see less and less of his guild online. Then Blizzard releases a major patch prior to the expansion, more guildies start coming back. Then the expansion is launched and what was once 100 guildmates is now 10-15 (you know, those that are the hardcore PvP'ers). It amazes me that there are people to come to this website still being delusional that somehow, someway it will be different this time. And that you can make that determination by just playing the beta. Never played the end-game, where a successfull game retains a majority of it's players. We saw this with WAR (remember, that was supposed to be THE GAME, you know, because it's Warhammer). We saw it with AoC (forgetting it was Funcom running the game). Now we see it with Aion. I'm sure we'll see it Star Wars whenever Bioware gets around to releasing it. I'm happy the OP likes Aion. I'm not surprised that he's bored with WoW, most are. But lets not kid ourselves. It's just temporary. It's ALWAYS temporary. It's been temporary for 5 years now. It's going to continue to be temporary for the forseeable future. The haters don't want to hear that. They want a replacement NOW. That fine. Good luck with your replacement. When Emerald Dream launches with new races, a new continent and a bunch of other stuff, I'm sure Blizzard will welcome you (and your subscription dollars) back. Remember, it's not personal.
The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
But that's the thing, WAR is not better than Wow, not when you compare the entire package. Does it do PvP better than WoW. Yes it does. But as a whole it doesn't do a whole lot of other things better than WoW. See here is the problem and this applies to the OP. He says he's been playing WoW for 3+ years. Well when you been playing something for that long, you get used to the way things are in that game and expect that some type of polish in the next game. You expect the game to not be a grind because it never felt like a grind in WoW. If it did you wouldn't have played WoW for 3+ years.
My point is how does the OP make the determination that Aion is a better game than WoW when he's only played the beta? He played and (obviously) enjoyed WoW for 3+ years and all of a sudden a game with flashy graphics is going to be the end all because he played it on a weekend? What happens when he gets into the meat of the game in Aion and realizes that there isn't much more substance to what he saw in the beta? What happens when he's 6 months into Aion and realizes that PvP in the Abyss is boring as hell since it's the same crap over and over? Maybe that won't happen, but it usually does because we've seen it now with every other game that has launched since WoW launched.
WAR is a pvp game!
WAR is three things, pvp, PQs and the tome of knowledge.
WAR kicks WoWs ass in pvp, in questing (due to PQs) and the ToK destroys the WoW achievements system.
does wow do dungeons and raids better? yeah because WAR isnt a god damn pve game it only has the crap as a side game similar to how pvp was before blizzards awesome Idea to make wow an esport.
I do agree with the getting used to a game thing however. But imo I feel players hold WoW to high up on the mmo totem pole. It really isnt as good as everyone tries to make it out to be.
A game thats average in everyway gets really stale after a while. I would rather a game focus on something and keep refining it.
It's the same story all the time. Some new game gets ready to be released and we start seeing articles on how great this new game is in beta and how it will be the WoW killer and me and my 100 guildmates are quitting WoW and joining 'new game'. Then 6 months passes, the new game isn't so new anymore, there isn't as much content being added, it's not as much fun playing an alt, etc. Meanwhile, Blizzard keeps on chugging along, Blizzcon or some other trade shows comes along and they tease with a new expansion. Little by little that guy who moved over with his 100 guildmates starts to see less and less of his guild online. Then Blizzard releases a major patch prior to the expansion, more guildies start coming back. Then the expansion is launched and what was once 100 guildmates is now 10-15 (you know, those that are the hardcore PvP'ers). It amazes me that there are people to come to this website still being delusional that somehow, someway it will be different this time. And that you can make that determination by just playing the beta. Never played the end-game, where a successfull game retains a majority of it's players. We saw this with WAR (remember, that was supposed to be THE GAME, you know, because it's Warhammer). We saw it with AoC (forgetting it was Funcom running the game). Now we see it with Aion. I'm sure we'll see it Star Wars whenever Bioware gets around to releasing it. I'm happy the OP likes Aion. I'm not surprised that he's bored with WoW, most are. But lets not kid ourselves. It's just temporary. It's ALWAYS temporary. It's been temporary for 5 years now. It's going to continue to be temporary for the forseeable future. The haters don't want to hear that. They want a replacement NOW. That fine. Good luck with your replacement. When Emerald Dream launches with new races, a new continent and a bunch of other stuff, I'm sure Blizzard will welcome you (and your subscription dollars) back. Remember, it's not personal.
The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
niche game is a nice way of saying that the developers were too poor or too lazy to implement more than few interesting game mechanics. For instance u have eve, the developers just put in more zones with a copy paste backround and call in content. If they took some time and money and put in some immersions it would be alot better. The same things is with aion. They took the face maker from oblivion and the graphics design of fable, and then they made a crappy world full of invisible walls and blured light effects. Its not even open world. Have you seen the starting area or played through it? Its a long S shaped path and when you make it to the end of it you get your wings. You wanna fly from the starting area over the mountains to some other area... well guess what u cant cause there is a huge invisible wall over the mountains and u can only fly for a minute. This game is far more theme park like and linear than wow ever thought about being. At least in wow if wanna climb the mountains in crossroads and jump to your death in duskwallow marsh you are free to do so. In aion u can even jump over some step rails.
not to mention that u cant swim and the youngest male voice is done but the guy that did prince zuko of avatar the last airbender.(both of these really get me)
Copy and pasting content? you play WoW and you say eves developers copy and paste content? how many times have you fought the same mob skin over and over again? how many lame dungeons will blizzard release with reused raid strats?
LOL I don;t even care for Aion tbh, What i can relate to is the OPs dislike for WoW wich I totally agree with.
And no niche isnt a cop out, Certain developers want to make a pvp focused game or a crafting heavy game or a game with freedom and exploration. Not every game wants to be average like WoW in every way.
Jack of all trades may get more subs but sooner or later players that like pvp more will leave and players that like crafting or raid content more will leave since WoW is average in all areas.
Sorry but games like DAoc, WAR and AOC have better pvp. Games like EQ2, Lotro and others have better pve and games like Vanguard have much better crafting systems. when you decide to focus on a few mechanics and make a niche MMO its not a cop out.
War, DAoc, and AOC have crappy pvp and the only time it starts to get good the game lags like it just had hip replacement. I played an EQ2 trial once and it sucked. I tryed Lotro and i found myself feeling a little gayer for having thrown my hat in with that fellowship hobbit crap.( oooo look at my scary furry little feet) and vangaurd is worst running game out of all of them, It has great potential except when you have to run into a door like 10 times to get it to open. What is pathectic is for someone to make a "niche" mmo were there arnt that many features and have it run like crap. How bad does friggin jita lag and there is what make 800 players in that zone tops and u cant even see most of them, just their very prescence in the zone lags u out.
Wow may reuse mob skins and raid strats and gear skins and stuff and yet it sucks. but im talking about eve.. you know where one side of a zone has the same backround as the other side.
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
It's the same story all the time. Some new game gets ready to be released and we start seeing articles on how great this new game is in beta and how it will be the WoW killer and me and my 100 guildmates are quitting WoW and joining 'new game'. Then 6 months passes, the new game isn't so new anymore, there isn't as much content being added, it's not as much fun playing an alt, etc. Meanwhile, Blizzard keeps on chugging along, Blizzcon or some other trade shows comes along and they tease with a new expansion. Little by little that guy who moved over with his 100 guildmates starts to see less and less of his guild online. Then Blizzard releases a major patch prior to the expansion, more guildies start coming back. Then the expansion is launched and what was once 100 guildmates is now 10-15 (you know, those that are the hardcore PvP'ers). It amazes me that there are people to come to this website still being delusional that somehow, someway it will be different this time. And that you can make that determination by just playing the beta. Never played the end-game, where a successfull game retains a majority of it's players. We saw this with WAR (remember, that was supposed to be THE GAME, you know, because it's Warhammer). We saw it with AoC (forgetting it was Funcom running the game). Now we see it with Aion. I'm sure we'll see it Star Wars whenever Bioware gets around to releasing it. I'm happy the OP likes Aion. I'm not surprised that he's bored with WoW, most are. But lets not kid ourselves. It's just temporary. It's ALWAYS temporary. It's been temporary for 5 years now. It's going to continue to be temporary for the forseeable future. The haters don't want to hear that. They want a replacement NOW. That fine. Good luck with your replacement. When Emerald Dream launches with new races, a new continent and a bunch of other stuff, I'm sure Blizzard will welcome you (and your subscription dollars) back. Remember, it's not personal.
The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
niche game is a nice way of saying that the developers were too poor or too lazy to implement more than few interesting game mechanics. For instance u have eve, the developers just put in more zones with a copy paste backround and call in content. If they took some time and money and put in some immersions it would be alot better. The same things is with aion. They took the face maker from oblivion and the graphics design of fable, and then they made a crappy world full of invisible walls and blured light effects. Its not even open world. Have you seen the starting area or played through it? Its a long S shaped path and when you make it to the end of it you get your wings. You wanna fly from the starting area over the mountains to some other area... well guess what u cant cause there is a huge invisible wall over the mountains and u can only fly for a minute. This game is far more theme park like and linear than wow ever thought about being. At least in wow if wanna climb the mountains in crossroads and jump to your death in duskwallow marsh you are free to do so. In aion u can even jump over some step rails.
not to mention that u cant swim and the youngest male voice is done but the guy that did prince zuko of avatar the last airbender.(both of these really get me)
Copy and pasting content? you play WoW and you say eves developers copy and paste content? how many times have you fought the same mob skin over and over again? how many lame dungeons will blizzard release with reused raid strats?
LOL I don;t even care for Aion tbh, What i can relate to is the OPs dislike for WoW wich I totally agree with.
And no niche isnt a cop out, Certain developers want to make a pvp focused game or a crafting heavy game or a game with freedom and exploration. Not every game wants to be average like WoW in every way.
Jack of all trades may get more subs but sooner or later players that like pvp more will leave and players that like crafting or raid content more will leave since WoW is average in all areas.
Sorry but games like DAoc, WAR and AOC have better pvp. Games like EQ2, Lotro and others have better pve and games like Vanguard have much better crafting systems. when you decide to focus on a few mechanics and make a niche MMO its not a cop out.
War, DAoc, and AOC have crappy pvp and the only time it starts to get good the game lags like it just had hip replacement. I played an EQ2 trial once and it sucked. I tryed Lotro and i found myself feeling a little gayer for having thrown my hat in with that fellowship hobbit crap.( oooo look at my scary furry little feet) and vangaurd is worst running game out of all of them, It has great potential except when you have to run into a door like 10 times to get it to open
You just called being into Lord of the rings Gay one of the greatest freaking Fantasy novels of all time yet its not gay to play WoW with little hoppity elves and gnomes?
Sorry but your crazy if you think WoWs Esport is better than DAoc or even WAAR. i may agree with AoC and its shitty preformance though but at its core the combat is much better.
Edit: as for WAR it kicks WoWs ass in Instanced and world pvp so i dont know how its better. You like arenas or something? play Guildwars that game owns wows pvp also.
Wait. First he says he got bored of wow half way into the first exp. and now he's quitting because of Aion??? Seems like he gave up on wow long before this new game so this isn't much of a tribute.
Yeah he's pushing all the right buttons of bored wow players--better pvp than wow, the tug to explore a new world and for that I may try the game. But I'm not falling for it so far.
But that's the thing, WAR is not better than Wow, not when you compare the entire package. Does it do PvP better than WoW. Yes it does. But as a whole it doesn't do a whole lot of other things better than WoW. See here is the problem and this applies to the OP. He says he's been playing WoW for 3+ years. Well when you been playing something for that long, you get used to the way things are in that game and expect that some type of polish in the next game. You expect the game to not be a grind because it never felt like a grind in WoW. If it did you wouldn't have played WoW for 3+ years. My point is how does the OP make the determination that Aion is a better game than WoW when he's only played the beta? He played and (obviously) enjoyed WoW for 3+ years and all of a sudden a game with flashy graphics is going to be the end all because he played it on a weekend? What happens when he gets into the meat of the game in Aion and realizes that there isn't much more substance to what he saw in the beta? What happens when he's 6 months into Aion and realizes that PvP in the Abyss is boring as hell since it's the same crap over and over? Maybe that won't happen, but it usually does because we've seen it now with every other game that has launched since WoW launched.
Of course,
What you wrote Sir is about the exact synthesis of what makes Blizzard having 60% of the marketshare with western subs based MMO's (not even talking about the inflated almost free to play internet café numbers on that strange planet called China).
The so called WOW competitors are making it Blizzard SOOOOO easy to maintain momentum.
It is as if these guys are PAID by Blizzard to push the duds over to the players one by one.
And in fact it gets ... worse and worse.
Instead of opening up NEW MMO games, they make exact copies of the perfect game that is already being made for >5 years.
Every single person that plays WOW KNOWS what the best game is out there.
The rest is peanuts. We are talking of 0.1 to 1.3% of WOW markets.
And still people (like the OP) think they could be taken seriously.
Comon guys: stop fooling yourlselves: YOU ALL play WOW and stop being frustrated by it.
It is the best you can get. Period.
Or ... is there somebody else hiding in the closet BETTER and with MORE money than Blizzard. Of course not.
We all know why Blizzard has more subs, because the game is average at everything and very easy for the non-gamer and Wii crowd.
This doesn;t mean WoW is a better game just appeals to more. Shit dude I prefer WAR and Lotro over WoW.
You use sub numbers all the time but if we broke down the games bit by bit everyone would see how lame WoW is.
Forced Arena pvp for gear and Forced 25 man raiding are the only ways to really get good shit in the game. How many stale dungeons or instance pvp arenas can we fight in before we get fucking bored? Atleast WAR has different pvp instanced mini-games and world pvp to keep me from getting bored what does WoW offer?
5 Bgs and some boxed arenas? its limited. Oh and wintergrasp looking at the same fucking zone all day doesnt get lame nope!
It's the same story all the time. Some new game gets ready to be released and we start seeing articles on how great this new game is in beta and how it will be the WoW killer and me and my 100 guildmates are quitting WoW and joining 'new game'. Then 6 months passes, the new game isn't so new anymore, there isn't as much content being added, it's not as much fun playing an alt, etc. Meanwhile, Blizzard keeps on chugging along, Blizzcon or some other trade shows comes along and they tease with a new expansion. Little by little that guy who moved over with his 100 guildmates starts to see less and less of his guild online. Then Blizzard releases a major patch prior to the expansion, more guildies start coming back. Then the expansion is launched and what was once 100 guildmates is now 10-15 (you know, those that are the hardcore PvP'ers). It amazes me that there are people to come to this website still being delusional that somehow, someway it will be different this time. And that you can make that determination by just playing the beta. Never played the end-game, where a successfull game retains a majority of it's players. We saw this with WAR (remember, that was supposed to be THE GAME, you know, because it's Warhammer). We saw it with AoC (forgetting it was Funcom running the game). Now we see it with Aion. I'm sure we'll see it Star Wars whenever Bioware gets around to releasing it. I'm happy the OP likes Aion. I'm not surprised that he's bored with WoW, most are. But lets not kid ourselves. It's just temporary. It's ALWAYS temporary. It's been temporary for 5 years now. It's going to continue to be temporary for the forseeable future. The haters don't want to hear that. They want a replacement NOW. That fine. Good luck with your replacement. When Emerald Dream launches with new races, a new continent and a bunch of other stuff, I'm sure Blizzard will welcome you (and your subscription dollars) back. Remember, it's not personal.
The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
niche game is a nice way of saying that the developers were too poor or too lazy to implement more than few interesting game mechanics. For instance u have eve, the developers just put in more zones with a copy paste backround and call in content. If they took some time and money and put in some immersions it would be alot better. The same things is with aion. They took the face maker from oblivion and the graphics design of fable, and then they made a crappy world full of invisible walls and blured light effects. Its not even open world. Have you seen the starting area or played through it? Its a long S shaped path and when you make it to the end of it you get your wings. You wanna fly from the starting area over the mountains to some other area... well guess what u cant cause there is a huge invisible wall over the mountains and u can only fly for a minute. This game is far more theme park like and linear than wow ever thought about being. At least in wow if wanna climb the mountains in crossroads and jump to your death in duskwallow marsh you are free to do so. In aion u can even jump over some step rails.
not to mention that u cant swim and the youngest male voice is done but the guy that did prince zuko of avatar the last airbender.(both of these really get me)
Copy and pasting content? you play WoW and you say eves developers copy and paste content? how many times have you fought the same mob skin over and over again? how many lame dungeons will blizzard release with reused raid strats?
LOL I don;t even care for Aion tbh, What i can relate to is the OPs dislike for WoW wich I totally agree with.
And no niche isnt a cop out, Certain developers want to make a pvp focused game or a crafting heavy game or a game with freedom and exploration. Not every game wants to be average like WoW in every way.
Jack of all trades may get more subs but sooner or later players that like pvp more will leave and players that like crafting or raid content more will leave since WoW is average in all areas.
Sorry but games like DAoc, WAR and AOC have better pvp. Games like EQ2, Lotro and others have better pve and games like Vanguard have much better crafting systems. when you decide to focus on a few mechanics and make a niche MMO its not a cop out.
War, DAoc, and AOC have crappy pvp and the only time it starts to get good the game lags like it just had hip replacement. I played an EQ2 trial once and it sucked. I tryed Lotro and i found myself feeling a little gayer for having thrown my hat in with that fellowship hobbit crap.( oooo look at my scary furry little feet) and vangaurd is worst running game out of all of them, It has great potential except when you have to run into a door like 10 times to get it to open
You just called being into Lord of the rings Gay one of the greatest freaking Fantasy novels of all time yet its not gay to play WoW with little hoppity elves and gnomes?
Sorry but your crazy if you think WoWs Esport is better than DAoc or even WAAR. i may agree with AoC and its shitty preformance though but at its core the combat is much better.
Edit: as for WAR it kicks WoWs ass in Instanced and world pvp so i dont know how its better. You like arenas or something? play Guildwars that game owns wows pvp also.
i dont play alliance in Wow cause it ya know gives you a choice whether to run around looking like a fag or not. I played DAoc back in its prime i remeber the castle vs castle mega zergs where you captured your opponents castle by bringing shere numbers and lagging them out i did play a WAR trial and it looked and ran like crap and Guildwars isnt an mmo is just a multiplayer game that looks like and mmo and if u want world PVP all u have to do is play on a pvp server. Then run around in one of the non noob zones and kill ppl all day if u want
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
It's the same story all the time. Some new game gets ready to be released and we start seeing articles on how great this new game is in beta and how it will be the WoW killer and me and my 100 guildmates are quitting WoW and joining 'new game'. Then 6 months passes, the new game isn't so new anymore, there isn't as much content being added, it's not as much fun playing an alt, etc. Meanwhile, Blizzard keeps on chugging along, Blizzcon or some other trade shows comes along and they tease with a new expansion. Little by little that guy who moved over with his 100 guildmates starts to see less and less of his guild online. Then Blizzard releases a major patch prior to the expansion, more guildies start coming back. Then the expansion is launched and what was once 100 guildmates is now 10-15 (you know, those that are the hardcore PvP'ers). It amazes me that there are people to come to this website still being delusional that somehow, someway it will be different this time. And that you can make that determination by just playing the beta. Never played the end-game, where a successfull game retains a majority of it's players. We saw this with WAR (remember, that was supposed to be THE GAME, you know, because it's Warhammer). We saw it with AoC (forgetting it was Funcom running the game). Now we see it with Aion. I'm sure we'll see it Star Wars whenever Bioware gets around to releasing it. I'm happy the OP likes Aion. I'm not surprised that he's bored with WoW, most are. But lets not kid ourselves. It's just temporary. It's ALWAYS temporary. It's been temporary for 5 years now. It's going to continue to be temporary for the forseeable future. The haters don't want to hear that. They want a replacement NOW. That fine. Good luck with your replacement. When Emerald Dream launches with new races, a new continent and a bunch of other stuff, I'm sure Blizzard will welcome you (and your subscription dollars) back. Remember, it's not personal.
The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
niche game is a nice way of saying that the developers were too poor or too lazy to implement more than few interesting game mechanics. For instance u have eve, the developers just put in more zones with a copy paste backround and call in content. If they took some time and money and put in some immersions it would be alot better. The same things is with aion. They took the face maker from oblivion and the graphics design of fable, and then they made a crappy world full of invisible walls and blured light effects. Its not even open world. Have you seen the starting area or played through it? Its a long S shaped path and when you make it to the end of it you get your wings. You wanna fly from the starting area over the mountains to some other area... well guess what u cant cause there is a huge invisible wall over the mountains and u can only fly for a minute. This game is far more theme park like and linear than wow ever thought about being. At least in wow if wanna climb the mountains in crossroads and jump to your death in duskwallow marsh you are free to do so. In aion u can even jump over some step rails.
not to mention that u cant swim and the youngest male voice is done but the guy that did prince zuko of avatar the last airbender.(both of these really get me)
Copy and pasting content? you play WoW and you say eves developers copy and paste content? how many times have you fought the same mob skin over and over again? how many lame dungeons will blizzard release with reused raid strats?
LOL I don;t even care for Aion tbh, What i can relate to is the OPs dislike for WoW wich I totally agree with.
And no niche isnt a cop out, Certain developers want to make a pvp focused game or a crafting heavy game or a game with freedom and exploration. Not every game wants to be average like WoW in every way.
Jack of all trades may get more subs but sooner or later players that like pvp more will leave and players that like crafting or raid content more will leave since WoW is average in all areas.
Sorry but games like DAoc, WAR and AOC have better pvp. Games like EQ2, Lotro and others have better pve and games like Vanguard have much better crafting systems. when you decide to focus on a few mechanics and make a niche MMO its not a cop out.
War, DAoc, and AOC have crappy pvp and the only time it starts to get good the game lags like it just had hip replacement. I played an EQ2 trial once and it sucked. I tryed Lotro and i found myself feeling a little gayer for having thrown my hat in with that fellowship hobbit crap.( oooo look at my scary furry little feet) and vangaurd is worst running game out of all of them, It has great potential except when you have to run into a door like 10 times to get it to open
You just called being into Lord of the rings Gay one of the greatest freaking Fantasy novels of all time yet its not gay to play WoW with little hoppity elves and gnomes?
Sorry but your crazy if you think WoWs Esport is better than DAoc or even WAAR. i may agree with AoC and its shitty preformance though but at its core the combat is much better.
Edit: as for WAR it kicks WoWs ass in Instanced and world pvp so i dont know how its better. You like arenas or something? play Guildwars that game owns wows pvp also.
i dont play alliance in Wow cause it ya know gives you a choice whether to run around looking like a fag or not. I played DAoc back in its prime i remeber the castle vs castle mega zergs where you captured your opponents castle by bringing shere numbers and lagging them out i did play a WAR trial and it looked and ran like crap and Guildwars isnt an mmo is just a multiplayer game that looks like and mmo
Because you play Horde you call people that like Lotro Gay? you're a messed up dude. you dont happen to live in the South US or one of the middles states do you?
Also sorry but Horde has little hopity elves also.
Edit: sorry but Guild wars is more of an MMO than most out today. You have massive amount of players in cities and you can easily Run quests and dungeons with players and chat, join guilds and have an open marlet to sell shit. sure its instanced but that doesnt make it not an MMO or atleast some wierd mmo hybrid and yeah it has better pvp.
Im glad you agree with me that DAoC has a better pvp system yes it lagged but didnt all games back then?
It's the same story all the time. Some new game gets ready to be released and we start seeing articles on how great this new game is in beta and how it will be the WoW killer and me and my 100 guildmates are quitting WoW and joining 'new game'. Then 6 months passes, the new game isn't so new anymore, there isn't as much content being added, it's not as much fun playing an alt, etc. Meanwhile, Blizzard keeps on chugging along, Blizzcon or some other trade shows comes along and they tease with a new expansion. Little by little that guy who moved over with his 100 guildmates starts to see less and less of his guild online. Then Blizzard releases a major patch prior to the expansion, more guildies start coming back. Then the expansion is launched and what was once 100 guildmates is now 10-15 (you know, those that are the hardcore PvP'ers). It amazes me that there are people to come to this website still being delusional that somehow, someway it will be different this time. And that you can make that determination by just playing the beta. Never played the end-game, where a successfull game retains a majority of it's players. We saw this with WAR (remember, that was supposed to be THE GAME, you know, because it's Warhammer). We saw it with AoC (forgetting it was Funcom running the game). Now we see it with Aion. I'm sure we'll see it Star Wars whenever Bioware gets around to releasing it. I'm happy the OP likes Aion. I'm not surprised that he's bored with WoW, most are. But lets not kid ourselves. It's just temporary. It's ALWAYS temporary. It's been temporary for 5 years now. It's going to continue to be temporary for the forseeable future. The haters don't want to hear that. They want a replacement NOW. That fine. Good luck with your replacement. When Emerald Dream launches with new races, a new continent and a bunch of other stuff, I'm sure Blizzard will welcome you (and your subscription dollars) back. Remember, it's not personal.
The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
niche game is a nice way of saying that the developers were too poor or too lazy to implement more than few interesting game mechanics. For instance u have eve, the developers just put in more zones with a copy paste backround and call in content. If they took some time and money and put in some immersions it would be alot better. The same things is with aion. They took the face maker from oblivion and the graphics design of fable, and then they made a crappy world full of invisible walls and blured light effects. Its not even open world. Have you seen the starting area or played through it? Its a long S shaped path and when you make it to the end of it you get your wings. You wanna fly from the starting area over the mountains to some other area... well guess what u cant cause there is a huge invisible wall over the mountains and u can only fly for a minute. This game is far more theme park like and linear than wow ever thought about being. At least in wow if wanna climb the mountains in crossroads and jump to your death in duskwallow marsh you are free to do so. In aion u can even jump over some step rails.
not to mention that u cant swim and the youngest male voice is done but the guy that did prince zuko of avatar the last airbender.(both of these really get me)
Copy and pasting content? you play WoW and you say eves developers copy and paste content? how many times have you fought the same mob skin over and over again? how many lame dungeons will blizzard release with reused raid strats?
LOL I don;t even care for Aion tbh, What i can relate to is the OPs dislike for WoW wich I totally agree with.
And no niche isnt a cop out, Certain developers want to make a pvp focused game or a crafting heavy game or a game with freedom and exploration. Not every game wants to be average like WoW in every way.
Jack of all trades may get more subs but sooner or later players that like pvp more will leave and players that like crafting or raid content more will leave since WoW is average in all areas.
Sorry but games like DAoc, WAR and AOC have better pvp. Games like EQ2, Lotro and others have better pve and games like Vanguard have much better crafting systems. when you decide to focus on a few mechanics and make a niche MMO its not a cop out.
War, DAoc, and AOC have crappy pvp and the only time it starts to get good the game lags like it just had hip replacement. I played an EQ2 trial once and it sucked. I tryed Lotro and i found myself feeling a little gayer for having thrown my hat in with that fellowship hobbit crap.( oooo look at my scary furry little feet) and vangaurd is worst running game out of all of them, It has great potential except when you have to run into a door like 10 times to get it to open
You just called being into Lord of the rings Gay one of the greatest freaking Fantasy novels of all time yet its not gay to play WoW with little hoppity elves and gnomes?
Sorry but your crazy if you think WoWs Esport is better than DAoc or even WAAR. i may agree with AoC and its shitty preformance though but at its core the combat is much better.
Edit: as for WAR it kicks WoWs ass in Instanced and world pvp so i dont know how its better. You like arenas or something? play Guildwars that game owns wows pvp also.
i dont play alliance in Wow cause it ya know gives you a choice whether to run around looking like a fag or not. I played DAoc back in its prime i remeber the castle vs castle mega zergs where you captured your opponents castle by bringing shere numbers and lagging them out i did play a WAR trial and it looked and ran like crap and Guildwars isnt an mmo is just a multiplayer game that looks like and mmo
Because you play Horde you call people that like Lotro Gay? you're a messed up dude. you dont happen to live in the South US or one of the middles states do you?
Also sorry but Horde has little hopity elves also.
i never said those exact words.. i never said people that play lotro were gay ( sounds like some kinda guily conscience to me) all i said was that i felt gay playing it. None of the race or classes make me feel powerful, they make me feel like a gay little hobbit bandit or some crap. At least with wow if u dont want to be a human, gay elf, faggy dwarf, or pussy halfling, u can be a tauren or undead or an orc or something
and no DAoc didnt have a better pvp system. cause it didt work. if a car came out that had some great new designs on it that didnt work would you still say it was a good car. no dummy its a piece of crap that shakes like a black girl booty when you get over 55mph and so did Daoc
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
Because you play Horde you call people that like Lotro Gay? you're a messed up dude. you dont happen to live in the South US or one of the middles states do you?
Woah. A pretty broad stroke. Is it because there is less gayness in those places?
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Zorn you're too much.
3.2 isn't anything special.
The raid/dungeon they added is basically one room and the rest of the crap is anti twink shit they should have put in a very long time ago.
I do like the druid graphic changes however lol!
keep crying man, sooner or later the addicts will see behind blizzards con job and realize they get near no content considering the amount of money they dish out to blizzard.
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To each their own. Everyone likes different things than everyone else. There is no need to fight or argue over it. What WoW doesn't do for me it does well for millions of others. What Aion does for me won't necessarilly impress or captivate others.
It still pisses me off when people make gross stereotypes and assumptions when they've clearly not put in the effort to try or even research a game before juding it. This is the type of crap MMORPG.com is famous for, and it's nice to see it isn't as bad as it used to be.
Hahahahahahaha ... OMG Teala, I just shot coffee outta my nose!
All this from the girl who got all pie-eyed for Vanguard? I remember the "disagreements" we used to have over on the Vault boards ... those were the days ...
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AIONs character models do not look plastic, and the game is FAR more polished than Vanguard is. Also, I think it's safe to say that everything in Vanguard was thrown together haphazardly. As far as "Eve and WoW" ... you must of smoked yourself stupid if you think either of those games holds a candle graphically to AION.
Please, WoW more fluid? Put down the bong before the damage is permanent!
The pvp is much, much better than VGs, or WoWs pvp. And besides, you wouldn't know good pvp if it jumped up and kicked the bowl outta your mouth.
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Hahahahahahaha ... OMG Teala, I just shot coffee outta my nose!
All this from the girl who got all pie-eyed for Vanguard? I remember the "disagreements" we used to have over on the Vault boards ... those were the days ...
Anyway ...
AIONs character models do not look plastic, and the game is FAR more polished than Vanguard is. Also, I think it's safe to say that everything in Vanguard was thrown together haphazardly. As far as "Eve and WoW" ... you must of smoked yourself stupid if you think either of those games holds a candle graphically to AION.
Please, WoW more fluid? Put down the bong before the damage is permanent!
The pvp is much, much better than VGs, or WoWs pvp. And besides, you wouldn't know good pvp if it jumped up and kicked the bowl outta your mouth.
I wish you themepark babies would get Eve out of your mouths already.
If aion had the complexity of Eve it would kill WoW.
And yes Eve fucking owns Aion in graphics.
Playing: EvE, Ryzom
Im in the beta.. played for 2 weekends. All i saw was crappy graphics made to look nice with light blur effects. Invisible walls over everything... railings, bushes, small ledges and walls. Its the same... click and spam skills formula so no difference there. The flying can be replicated easily, just make wow flying mounts insta cast and u can fight on them and they only last one minute...
I honestly didnt see anything that made it any different from wow.. u cant even use your wings in most area cause there are no fly zones. Wow had the excuses that they didnt have flying mounts in azeroth and that why u can fly there. What is aions excuse for the multiple areas that u cant fly in.
The game lacks any form of immersion, the character creation is cool unless u want to make a young character then the youngest voice u can get is the guy who did Prince Zuko on avatar the last airbender.
If anything the game is a step backwards from the RPG part of mmorpg. You start feeling cool when you get wings and your like "im gonna jump this rail and glide down to the water" so you try only to smack into an invisible wall over this tiny rail which wouldnt matter cause for some reason your character doent float but rather can walk on the bottom of a lake so he can drown.
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
It's the same story all the time. Some new game gets ready to be released and we start seeing articles on how great this new game is in beta and how it will be the WoW killer and me and my 100 guildmates are quitting WoW and joining 'new game'. Then 6 months passes, the new game isn't so new anymore, there isn't as much content being added, it's not as much fun playing an alt, etc. Meanwhile, Blizzard keeps on chugging along, Blizzcon or some other trade shows comes along and they tease with a new expansion. Little by little that guy who moved over with his 100 guildmates starts to see less and less of his guild online. Then Blizzard releases a major patch prior to the expansion, more guildies start coming back. Then the expansion is launched and what was once 100 guildmates is now 10-15 (you know, those that are the hardcore PvP'ers).
It amazes me that there are people to come to this website still being delusional that somehow, someway it will be different this time. And that you can make that determination by just playing the beta. Never played the end-game, where a successfull game retains a majority of it's players. We saw this with WAR (remember, that was supposed to be THE GAME, you know, because it's Warhammer). We saw it with AoC (forgetting it was Funcom running the game). Now we see it with Aion. I'm sure we'll see it Star Wars whenever Bioware gets around to releasing it.
I'm happy the OP likes Aion. I'm not surprised that he's bored with WoW, most are. But lets not kid ourselves. It's just temporary. It's ALWAYS temporary. It's been temporary for 5 years now. It's going to continue to be temporary for the forseeable future. The haters don't want to hear that. They want a replacement NOW. That fine. Good luck with your replacement. When the next WoW expansion launches with new races, a new continent and a bunch of other stuff, I'm sure Blizzard will welcome you (and your subscription dollars) back. Remember, it's not personal.
dont forget darkfall and their awesome double charges
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
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I had the same feeling. I joined Aion beta after friends showered tons of praise on it. The first weekend, I enjoyed playing with them, but the game itself was not immersive to me. I played Wow years ago for maybe 6 months, and it never really hooked me either. My friends loved Wow, so I was thinking they liked Aion as Wow in a different setting. I wasn't even going to try the next beta weekend, but I wanted to like the game to play with my friends and figured maybe crafting would get me hooked. The second beta weekend sealed it. It just doesn't appeal to me.
I can understand the Wow lovers liking it, but I don't see it as anything new or different aside from being able to fly without a mount. I'll pass for now and hold out for KOTR and FFXIV.
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First off, I am not a Wow player anymore, I have 5 60's sitting on a server, most drapped in raid gear for that period, never was convinced to try it again when the various expansions came out.
Aion, while it looks great and seems to offer new things to the MMO mix is probably not the answer. Flight mechanics are extremely limited, you want flight, go play Perfect World, they actually made a game where flght works. Secondly, we are talking NCSoft here, bots incorporated. as most of us call them. What makes you think they will actually attempt to control them in their new game?
I do agree that Aion seems to blend pve and pvp better than most games. The game has decent lore and a host of quests. I wish NCSoft success. It would be nice to have a real competitor for Wow out there.
Personally, you want the next big game in the genre, look at the unannounced MMO that Blizzard is working on. Blizzard is the one of the few companies that really understands this genre so far. Of course Bioware could surprise us with the Star Wars version.
Oh and Drakken, I could not agree more, early UO has never been surpassed.
The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
niche game is a nice way of saying that the developers were too poor or too lazy to implement more than few interesting game mechanics. For instance u have eve, the developers just put in more zones with a copy paste backround and call in content. If they took some time and money and put in some immersions it would be alot better. The same things is with aion. They took the face maker from oblivion and the graphics design of fable, and then they made a crappy world full of invisible walls and blured light effects. Its not even open world. Have you seen the starting area or played through it? Its a long S shaped path and when you make it to the end of it you get your wings. You wanna fly from the starting area over the mountains to some other area... well guess what u cant cause there is a huge invisible wall over the mountains and u can only fly for a minute. This game is far more theme park like and linear than wow ever thought about being. At least in wow if wanna climb the mountains in crossroads and jump to your death in duskwallow marsh you are free to do so. In aion u can even jump over some step rails.
not to mention that u cant swim and the youngest male voice is done but the guy that did prince zuko of avatar the last airbender.(both of these really get me)
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
And Ultima Online pre-trammel owns any MMO you've ever played ...
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I agree thats why I still play Pre trammel
Was that supposed to hurt me or something lol!
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The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
But that's the thing, WAR is not better than Wow, not when you compare the entire package. Does it do PvP better than WoW. Yes it does. But as a whole it doesn't do a whole lot of other things better than WoW. See here is the problem and this applies to the OP. He says he's been playing WoW for 3+ years. Well when you been playing something for that long, you get used to the way things are in that game and expect that some type of polish in the next game. You expect the game to not be a grind because it never felt like a grind in WoW. If it did you wouldn't have played WoW for 3+ years.
My point is how does the OP make the determination that Aion is a better game than WoW when he's only played the beta? He played and (obviously) enjoyed WoW for 3+ years and all of a sudden a game with flashy graphics is going to be the end all because he played it on a weekend? What happens when he gets into the meat of the game in Aion and realizes that there isn't much more substance to what he saw in the beta? What happens when he's 6 months into Aion and realizes that PvP in the Abyss is boring as hell since it's the same crap over and over? Maybe that won't happen, but it usually does because we've seen it now with every other game that has launched since WoW launched.
The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
niche game is a nice way of saying that the developers were too poor or too lazy to implement more than few interesting game mechanics. For instance u have eve, the developers just put in more zones with a copy paste backround and call in content. If they took some time and money and put in some immersions it would be alot better. The same things is with aion. They took the face maker from oblivion and the graphics design of fable, and then they made a crappy world full of invisible walls and blured light effects. Its not even open world. Have you seen the starting area or played through it? Its a long S shaped path and when you make it to the end of it you get your wings. You wanna fly from the starting area over the mountains to some other area... well guess what u cant cause there is a huge invisible wall over the mountains and u can only fly for a minute. This game is far more theme park like and linear than wow ever thought about being. At least in wow if wanna climb the mountains in crossroads and jump to your death in duskwallow marsh you are free to do so. In aion u can even jump over some step rails.
not to mention that u cant swim and the youngest male voice is done but the guy that did prince zuko of avatar the last airbender.(both of these really get me)
Copy and pasting content? you play WoW and you say eves developers copy and paste content? how many times have you fought the same mob skin over and over again? how many lame dungeons will blizzard release with reused raid strats?
LOL I don;t even care for Aion tbh, What i can relate to is the OPs dislike for WoW wich I totally agree with.
And no niche isnt a cop out, Certain developers want to make a pvp focused game or a crafting heavy game or a game with freedom and exploration. Not every game wants to be average like WoW in every way.
Jack of all trades may get more subs but sooner or later players that like pvp more will leave and players that like crafting or raid content more will leave since WoW is average in all areas.
Sorry but games like DAoc, WAR and AOC have better pvp. Games like EQ2, Lotro and others have better pve and games like Vanguard have much better crafting systems. when you decide to focus on a few mechanics and make a niche MMO its not a cop out.
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its like no one is trying
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
But that's the thing, WAR is not better than Wow, not when you compare the entire package. Does it do PvP better than WoW. Yes it does. But as a whole it doesn't do a whole lot of other things better than WoW. See here is the problem and this applies to the OP. He says he's been playing WoW for 3+ years. Well when you been playing something for that long, you get used to the way things are in that game and expect that some type of polish in the next game. You expect the game to not be a grind because it never felt like a grind in WoW. If it did you wouldn't have played WoW for 3+ years.
My point is how does the OP make the determination that Aion is a better game than WoW when he's only played the beta? He played and (obviously) enjoyed WoW for 3+ years and all of a sudden a game with flashy graphics is going to be the end all because he played it on a weekend? What happens when he gets into the meat of the game in Aion and realizes that there isn't much more substance to what he saw in the beta? What happens when he's 6 months into Aion and realizes that PvP in the Abyss is boring as hell since it's the same crap over and over? Maybe that won't happen, but it usually does because we've seen it now with every other game that has launched since WoW launched.
WAR is a pvp game!
WAR is three things, pvp, PQs and the tome of knowledge.
WAR kicks WoWs ass in pvp, in questing (due to PQs) and the ToK destroys the WoW achievements system.
does wow do dungeons and raids better? yeah because WAR isnt a god damn pve game it only has the crap as a side game similar to how pvp was before blizzards awesome Idea to make wow an esport.
I do agree with the getting used to a game thing however. But imo I feel players hold WoW to high up on the mmo totem pole. It really isnt as good as everyone tries to make it out to be.
A game thats average in everyway gets really stale after a while. I would rather a game focus on something and keep refining it.
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The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
niche game is a nice way of saying that the developers were too poor or too lazy to implement more than few interesting game mechanics. For instance u have eve, the developers just put in more zones with a copy paste backround and call in content. If they took some time and money and put in some immersions it would be alot better. The same things is with aion. They took the face maker from oblivion and the graphics design of fable, and then they made a crappy world full of invisible walls and blured light effects. Its not even open world. Have you seen the starting area or played through it? Its a long S shaped path and when you make it to the end of it you get your wings. You wanna fly from the starting area over the mountains to some other area... well guess what u cant cause there is a huge invisible wall over the mountains and u can only fly for a minute. This game is far more theme park like and linear than wow ever thought about being. At least in wow if wanna climb the mountains in crossroads and jump to your death in duskwallow marsh you are free to do so. In aion u can even jump over some step rails.
not to mention that u cant swim and the youngest male voice is done but the guy that did prince zuko of avatar the last airbender.(both of these really get me)
Copy and pasting content? you play WoW and you say eves developers copy and paste content? how many times have you fought the same mob skin over and over again? how many lame dungeons will blizzard release with reused raid strats?
LOL I don;t even care for Aion tbh, What i can relate to is the OPs dislike for WoW wich I totally agree with.
And no niche isnt a cop out, Certain developers want to make a pvp focused game or a crafting heavy game or a game with freedom and exploration. Not every game wants to be average like WoW in every way.
Jack of all trades may get more subs but sooner or later players that like pvp more will leave and players that like crafting or raid content more will leave since WoW is average in all areas.
Sorry but games like DAoc, WAR and AOC have better pvp. Games like EQ2, Lotro and others have better pve and games like Vanguard have much better crafting systems. when you decide to focus on a few mechanics and make a niche MMO its not a cop out.
War, DAoc, and AOC have crappy pvp and the only time it starts to get good the game lags like it just had hip replacement. I played an EQ2 trial once and it sucked. I tryed Lotro and i found myself feeling a little gayer for having thrown my hat in with that fellowship hobbit crap.( oooo look at my scary furry little feet) and vangaurd is worst running game out of all of them, It has great potential except when you have to run into a door like 10 times to get it to open. What is pathectic is for someone to make a "niche" mmo were there arnt that many features and have it run like crap. How bad does friggin jita lag and there is what make 800 players in that zone tops and u cant even see most of them, just their very prescence in the zone lags u out.
Wow may reuse mob skins and raid strats and gear skins and stuff and yet it sucks. but im talking about eve.. you know where one side of a zone has the same backround as the other side.
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
niche game is a nice way of saying that the developers were too poor or too lazy to implement more than few interesting game mechanics. For instance u have eve, the developers just put in more zones with a copy paste backround and call in content. If they took some time and money and put in some immersions it would be alot better. The same things is with aion. They took the face maker from oblivion and the graphics design of fable, and then they made a crappy world full of invisible walls and blured light effects. Its not even open world. Have you seen the starting area or played through it? Its a long S shaped path and when you make it to the end of it you get your wings. You wanna fly from the starting area over the mountains to some other area... well guess what u cant cause there is a huge invisible wall over the mountains and u can only fly for a minute. This game is far more theme park like and linear than wow ever thought about being. At least in wow if wanna climb the mountains in crossroads and jump to your death in duskwallow marsh you are free to do so. In aion u can even jump over some step rails.
not to mention that u cant swim and the youngest male voice is done but the guy that did prince zuko of avatar the last airbender.(both of these really get me)
Copy and pasting content? you play WoW and you say eves developers copy and paste content? how many times have you fought the same mob skin over and over again? how many lame dungeons will blizzard release with reused raid strats?
LOL I don;t even care for Aion tbh, What i can relate to is the OPs dislike for WoW wich I totally agree with.
And no niche isnt a cop out, Certain developers want to make a pvp focused game or a crafting heavy game or a game with freedom and exploration. Not every game wants to be average like WoW in every way.
Jack of all trades may get more subs but sooner or later players that like pvp more will leave and players that like crafting or raid content more will leave since WoW is average in all areas.
Sorry but games like DAoc, WAR and AOC have better pvp. Games like EQ2, Lotro and others have better pve and games like Vanguard have much better crafting systems. when you decide to focus on a few mechanics and make a niche MMO its not a cop out.
War, DAoc, and AOC have crappy pvp and the only time it starts to get good the game lags like it just had hip replacement. I played an EQ2 trial once and it sucked. I tryed Lotro and i found myself feeling a little gayer for having thrown my hat in with that fellowship hobbit crap.( oooo look at my scary furry little feet) and vangaurd is worst running game out of all of them, It has great potential except when you have to run into a door like 10 times to get it to open
You just called being into Lord of the rings Gay one of the greatest freaking Fantasy novels of all time yet its not gay to play WoW with little hoppity elves and gnomes?
Sorry but your crazy if you think WoWs Esport is better than DAoc or even WAAR. i may agree with AoC and its shitty preformance though but at its core the combat is much better.
Edit: as for WAR it kicks WoWs ass in Instanced and world pvp so i dont know how its better. You like arenas or something? play Guildwars that game owns wows pvp also.
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Wait. First he says he got bored of wow half way into the first exp. and now he's quitting because of Aion??? Seems like he gave up on wow long before this new game so this isn't much of a tribute.
Yeah he's pushing all the right buttons of bored wow players--better pvp than wow, the tug to explore a new world and for that I may try the game. But I'm not falling for it so far.
Of course,
What you wrote Sir is about the exact synthesis of what makes Blizzard having 60% of the marketshare with western subs based MMO's (not even talking about the inflated almost free to play internet café numbers on that strange planet called China).
The so called WOW competitors are making it Blizzard SOOOOO easy to maintain momentum.
It is as if these guys are PAID by Blizzard to push the duds over to the players one by one.
And in fact it gets ... worse and worse.
Instead of opening up NEW MMO games, they make exact copies of the perfect game that is already being made for >5 years.
Every single person that plays WOW KNOWS what the best game is out there.
The rest is peanuts. We are talking of 0.1 to 1.3% of WOW markets.
And still people (like the OP) think they could be taken seriously.
Comon guys: stop fooling yourlselves: YOU ALL play WOW and stop being frustrated by it.
It is the best you can get. Period.
Or ... is there somebody else hiding in the closet BETTER and with MORE money than Blizzard. Of course not.
We all know why Blizzard has more subs, because the game is average at everything and very easy for the non-gamer and Wii crowd.
This doesn;t mean WoW is a better game just appeals to more. Shit dude I prefer WAR and Lotro over WoW.
You use sub numbers all the time but if we broke down the games bit by bit everyone would see how lame WoW is.
Forced Arena pvp for gear and Forced 25 man raiding are the only ways to really get good shit in the game. How many stale dungeons or instance pvp arenas can we fight in before we get fucking bored? Atleast WAR has different pvp instanced mini-games and world pvp to keep me from getting bored what does WoW offer?
5 Bgs and some boxed arenas? its limited. Oh and wintergrasp looking at the same fucking zone all day doesnt get lame nope!
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The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
niche game is a nice way of saying that the developers were too poor or too lazy to implement more than few interesting game mechanics. For instance u have eve, the developers just put in more zones with a copy paste backround and call in content. If they took some time and money and put in some immersions it would be alot better. The same things is with aion. They took the face maker from oblivion and the graphics design of fable, and then they made a crappy world full of invisible walls and blured light effects. Its not even open world. Have you seen the starting area or played through it? Its a long S shaped path and when you make it to the end of it you get your wings. You wanna fly from the starting area over the mountains to some other area... well guess what u cant cause there is a huge invisible wall over the mountains and u can only fly for a minute. This game is far more theme park like and linear than wow ever thought about being. At least in wow if wanna climb the mountains in crossroads and jump to your death in duskwallow marsh you are free to do so. In aion u can even jump over some step rails.
not to mention that u cant swim and the youngest male voice is done but the guy that did prince zuko of avatar the last airbender.(both of these really get me)
Copy and pasting content? you play WoW and you say eves developers copy and paste content? how many times have you fought the same mob skin over and over again? how many lame dungeons will blizzard release with reused raid strats?
LOL I don;t even care for Aion tbh, What i can relate to is the OPs dislike for WoW wich I totally agree with.
And no niche isnt a cop out, Certain developers want to make a pvp focused game or a crafting heavy game or a game with freedom and exploration. Not every game wants to be average like WoW in every way.
Jack of all trades may get more subs but sooner or later players that like pvp more will leave and players that like crafting or raid content more will leave since WoW is average in all areas.
Sorry but games like DAoc, WAR and AOC have better pvp. Games like EQ2, Lotro and others have better pve and games like Vanguard have much better crafting systems. when you decide to focus on a few mechanics and make a niche MMO its not a cop out.
War, DAoc, and AOC have crappy pvp and the only time it starts to get good the game lags like it just had hip replacement. I played an EQ2 trial once and it sucked. I tryed Lotro and i found myself feeling a little gayer for having thrown my hat in with that fellowship hobbit crap.( oooo look at my scary furry little feet) and vangaurd is worst running game out of all of them, It has great potential except when you have to run into a door like 10 times to get it to open
You just called being into Lord of the rings Gay one of the greatest freaking Fantasy novels of all time yet its not gay to play WoW with little hoppity elves and gnomes?
Sorry but your crazy if you think WoWs Esport is better than DAoc or even WAAR. i may agree with AoC and its shitty preformance though but at its core the combat is much better.
Edit: as for WAR it kicks WoWs ass in Instanced and world pvp so i dont know how its better. You like arenas or something? play Guildwars that game owns wows pvp also.
i dont play alliance in Wow cause it ya know gives you a choice whether to run around looking like a fag or not. I played DAoc back in its prime i remeber the castle vs castle mega zergs where you captured your opponents castle by bringing shere numbers and lagging them out i did play a WAR trial and it looked and ran like crap and Guildwars isnt an mmo is just a multiplayer game that looks like and mmo and if u want world PVP all u have to do is play on a pvp server. Then run around in one of the non noob zones and kill ppl all day if u want
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The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
niche game is a nice way of saying that the developers were too poor or too lazy to implement more than few interesting game mechanics. For instance u have eve, the developers just put in more zones with a copy paste backround and call in content. If they took some time and money and put in some immersions it would be alot better. The same things is with aion. They took the face maker from oblivion and the graphics design of fable, and then they made a crappy world full of invisible walls and blured light effects. Its not even open world. Have you seen the starting area or played through it? Its a long S shaped path and when you make it to the end of it you get your wings. You wanna fly from the starting area over the mountains to some other area... well guess what u cant cause there is a huge invisible wall over the mountains and u can only fly for a minute. This game is far more theme park like and linear than wow ever thought about being. At least in wow if wanna climb the mountains in crossroads and jump to your death in duskwallow marsh you are free to do so. In aion u can even jump over some step rails.
not to mention that u cant swim and the youngest male voice is done but the guy that did prince zuko of avatar the last airbender.(both of these really get me)
Copy and pasting content? you play WoW and you say eves developers copy and paste content? how many times have you fought the same mob skin over and over again? how many lame dungeons will blizzard release with reused raid strats?
LOL I don;t even care for Aion tbh, What i can relate to is the OPs dislike for WoW wich I totally agree with.
And no niche isnt a cop out, Certain developers want to make a pvp focused game or a crafting heavy game or a game with freedom and exploration. Not every game wants to be average like WoW in every way.
Jack of all trades may get more subs but sooner or later players that like pvp more will leave and players that like crafting or raid content more will leave since WoW is average in all areas.
Sorry but games like DAoc, WAR and AOC have better pvp. Games like EQ2, Lotro and others have better pve and games like Vanguard have much better crafting systems. when you decide to focus on a few mechanics and make a niche MMO its not a cop out.
War, DAoc, and AOC have crappy pvp and the only time it starts to get good the game lags like it just had hip replacement. I played an EQ2 trial once and it sucked. I tryed Lotro and i found myself feeling a little gayer for having thrown my hat in with that fellowship hobbit crap.( oooo look at my scary furry little feet) and vangaurd is worst running game out of all of them, It has great potential except when you have to run into a door like 10 times to get it to open
You just called being into Lord of the rings Gay one of the greatest freaking Fantasy novels of all time yet its not gay to play WoW with little hoppity elves and gnomes?
Sorry but your crazy if you think WoWs Esport is better than DAoc or even WAAR. i may agree with AoC and its shitty preformance though but at its core the combat is much better.
Edit: as for WAR it kicks WoWs ass in Instanced and world pvp so i dont know how its better. You like arenas or something? play Guildwars that game owns wows pvp also.
i dont play alliance in Wow cause it ya know gives you a choice whether to run around looking like a fag or not. I played DAoc back in its prime i remeber the castle vs castle mega zergs where you captured your opponents castle by bringing shere numbers and lagging them out i did play a WAR trial and it looked and ran like crap and Guildwars isnt an mmo is just a multiplayer game that looks like and mmo
Because you play Horde you call people that like Lotro Gay? you're a messed up dude. you dont happen to live in the South US or one of the middles states do you?
Also sorry but Horde has little hopity elves also.
Edit: sorry but Guild wars is more of an MMO than most out today. You have massive amount of players in cities and you can easily Run quests and dungeons with players and chat, join guilds and have an open marlet to sell shit. sure its instanced but that doesnt make it not an MMO or atleast some wierd mmo hybrid and yeah it has better pvp.
Im glad you agree with me that DAoC has a better pvp system yes it lagged but didnt all games back then?
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The OP isn;t saying the game will kill WoW.
He's just saying Aion is a much better game for him and tbh WAR is a better game than WoW.
If they got rid of the shitty stability issues the game would be fantastic, it has better classes, better instanced pvp and better world pvp and the quests are similar and graphics are better.
Nothing is going to kill wow, we all know the average sub for every MMO is around 150k and thats where every game falls with the exception of FFXI and Eve (300-400k subs).
Alot of the games people called "wow killer" are actually alot better than world of warcraft its just these games are a niche and not a jack of all trades that appeals to non-gamers.
niche game is a nice way of saying that the developers were too poor or too lazy to implement more than few interesting game mechanics. For instance u have eve, the developers just put in more zones with a copy paste backround and call in content. If they took some time and money and put in some immersions it would be alot better. The same things is with aion. They took the face maker from oblivion and the graphics design of fable, and then they made a crappy world full of invisible walls and blured light effects. Its not even open world. Have you seen the starting area or played through it? Its a long S shaped path and when you make it to the end of it you get your wings. You wanna fly from the starting area over the mountains to some other area... well guess what u cant cause there is a huge invisible wall over the mountains and u can only fly for a minute. This game is far more theme park like and linear than wow ever thought about being. At least in wow if wanna climb the mountains in crossroads and jump to your death in duskwallow marsh you are free to do so. In aion u can even jump over some step rails.
not to mention that u cant swim and the youngest male voice is done but the guy that did prince zuko of avatar the last airbender.(both of these really get me)
Copy and pasting content? you play WoW and you say eves developers copy and paste content? how many times have you fought the same mob skin over and over again? how many lame dungeons will blizzard release with reused raid strats?
LOL I don;t even care for Aion tbh, What i can relate to is the OPs dislike for WoW wich I totally agree with.
And no niche isnt a cop out, Certain developers want to make a pvp focused game or a crafting heavy game or a game with freedom and exploration. Not every game wants to be average like WoW in every way.
Jack of all trades may get more subs but sooner or later players that like pvp more will leave and players that like crafting or raid content more will leave since WoW is average in all areas.
Sorry but games like DAoc, WAR and AOC have better pvp. Games like EQ2, Lotro and others have better pve and games like Vanguard have much better crafting systems. when you decide to focus on a few mechanics and make a niche MMO its not a cop out.
War, DAoc, and AOC have crappy pvp and the only time it starts to get good the game lags like it just had hip replacement. I played an EQ2 trial once and it sucked. I tryed Lotro and i found myself feeling a little gayer for having thrown my hat in with that fellowship hobbit crap.( oooo look at my scary furry little feet) and vangaurd is worst running game out of all of them, It has great potential except when you have to run into a door like 10 times to get it to open
You just called being into Lord of the rings Gay one of the greatest freaking Fantasy novels of all time yet its not gay to play WoW with little hoppity elves and gnomes?
Sorry but your crazy if you think WoWs Esport is better than DAoc or even WAAR. i may agree with AoC and its shitty preformance though but at its core the combat is much better.
Edit: as for WAR it kicks WoWs ass in Instanced and world pvp so i dont know how its better. You like arenas or something? play Guildwars that game owns wows pvp also.
i dont play alliance in Wow cause it ya know gives you a choice whether to run around looking like a fag or not. I played DAoc back in its prime i remeber the castle vs castle mega zergs where you captured your opponents castle by bringing shere numbers and lagging them out i did play a WAR trial and it looked and ran like crap and Guildwars isnt an mmo is just a multiplayer game that looks like and mmo
Because you play Horde you call people that like Lotro Gay? you're a messed up dude. you dont happen to live in the South US or one of the middles states do you?
Also sorry but Horde has little hopity elves also.
i never said those exact words.. i never said people that play lotro were gay ( sounds like some kinda guily conscience to me) all i said was that i felt gay playing it. None of the race or classes make me feel powerful, they make me feel like a gay little hobbit bandit or some crap. At least with wow if u dont want to be a human, gay elf, faggy dwarf, or pussy halfling, u can be a tauren or undead or an orc or something
and no DAoc didnt have a better pvp system. cause it didt work. if a car came out that had some great new designs on it that didnt work would you still say it was a good car. no dummy its a piece of crap that shakes like a black girl booty when you get over 55mph and so did Daoc
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
Woah. A pretty broad stroke. Is it because there is less gayness in those places?