People aren't butt hurt over others wanting to play another game, they are just tired of everyone for years constantly trashing WoW/Blizzard. It's really sad people have to trash another game, just to justify playing a new one.
Perhaps when others stop bashing WoW every chance they get, you won't see people coming around to defend the game?
We all know all these years later people are finally burnt out on WoW, why can't you all just move to another game without bashing WoW?
I played WAR, bought a CE and everything, the game was fun for what it was, i stop playing it a month later. I don't bash the game into the ground to justify going to another game or back to WoW.
You don't go into another games forum expecting most people to be encouraging another. In fact, if there wasn't any wow or war or any other MMO bashing, I wouldn't play the game. Albeit there's a point where passion can turn into OCD over a certain game(most people call them fan boys).
The point is, if you hate Aion, or don't plan on playing it, don't start the hate on others for listing reasons why Aion will be better then their previous mmo. Because that's what a 'wow bash' basically is.
Also, Aion fans shouldn't be putting the hate-on for wow lovers that want to stick their foot in the Aion doorway lol (although they are KIND OF asking for it).
Do you have the willpower to delete YOUR wow toons? XD
Nicely written article, at last someone who can put his point across with out resorting to "wow sux, aion rox". I have played AION beta (to level 10) and I was not impressed. same old same old. The fact I hate Asia style gfx does not help. I hope AION does well so people will lay off the WoW basing. Go AION for that reason alone. AION is a new game, same old mechanics (with gimiky wings) but new, Id be more interested if the OP and the fan boys feel the same about AION a month after release.
I don't agree on the "nicely written" part brother.
here is the OP's extract on WOW :
WoW's PvP system has degenerated to arenas. World PvP was too hard for Blizzard, so they got rid of it. Wintergrasp was too hard for Blizzard, so they got rid of it. Battlegrounds were to fun for Blizzard (WSG and AV anyway), so they took all the fun out of those. Battlegrounds were originally a place for enjoyable PvP, but were then turned into just another part of the grind. Blizzard turning their PvP system into a quality e-sport has ruined large scale PvP battles. They did succeed at making an e-sport, to a point. While anyone can watch an FPS tournament and know what is going on, watching a WoW tournament takes some serious knowledge about the game. It succeeded, but it still ruined WoW PvP.
The day patch 3.2 comes out - rather very good and even game altering PvP patch - it is the typical Wow trolling content we always see at our doorstep.
Supported by that dreadful Chief editor of mmorpg.com with such words as "sexy" shows it all.
Stradden was the man who found Warhammer "a very good game" btw. Remember?
Same hype same tasteless pushing of duds ...
In fact they just don't realise it ... they push WOW even to bigger heights with promoting these kind of bad copycats.
Stating that LAke Wintergrasp is ... 'get rid of it". LW is for certain the MOST and VASTLY played PvP zone in ANY MMORPG world wide.
How pathetic.
Zorndorf, let me ask you something, do you have a right to bash editors of the website? Actually, it's quite unprofessional behavior from you. Their opinion doesn't have to match with your one. Good/bad is a point of view and if you love wow and hate other games accusing them of being copycats or something that doesn't mean everyone else should do the same.
By saying that Blizzard is getting rid of Lake Wintergrasp, OP most likely wants to say that Blizzard put the limits 120 v 120. What do you mean by telling that "LW is for certain the MOST and VASTLY played PVP zone in any MMORPG?" Are you serious? Have you seen sieges of Lineage 2 in Korea where ~500-700 players fight for castles. Let's look at eve. Lots LOTS of ships. Not the set number of 240.
By the way. Tell me, how patch 3.2 is going to alter the game's PVP system. Is it going to revive world PvP? Is it going to give the meaning for pointless battleground and arena fights?
And finally I'm not a AION fanboy. To be honest, I think it will flop in US due to poor management. That thing killed L2 in the west too.
I love the fact that you mentioned Eve Online. 500-700 HA try again try 2000-3000+++ So many that it crashes the node. Most battles are small skirmishes/hit and run 5v5 10v10 30v30. But when you add 500 diffrent fights of 30v30 etc.. it adds up. Once or twice a month the average player who isnt a carebare(eve term for non pvp players) will see a really nasty fight off a couple hundred ships on each side. And atleast a couple times a year you will see fight of thousands of ship on each side. Eve is the KING OF THE SANDBOX. Everygame should be sandbox. Not this of sorry buddy im already on this server not that one. 300000 paying suscribers all on the same server all fighting(except gay carebares)for supremecy. Corporation(guilds in eve are companies) get so big that they have sub guilds for new players/to prevent corporate spies. Get this one if you play enough make enough ingame money you can pay for the game with it.
PS. If you think most ppl use ingame money to pay the game i've checked the numbers and the 300000 counts only the paying suscribers not the guy who pay with ingame money everymonth. Which isnt an easy task. Real time training Booyah
But that's the thing, WAR is not better than Wow, not when you compare the entire package. Does it do PvP better than WoW. Yes it does. But as a whole it doesn't do a whole lot of other things better than WoW. See here is the problem and this applies to the OP. He says he's been playing WoW for 3+ years. Well when you been playing something for that long, you get used to the way things are in that game and expect that some type of polish in the next game. You expect the game to not be a grind because it never felt like a grind in WoW. If it did you wouldn't have played WoW for 3+ years. My point is how does the OP make the determination that Aion is a better game than WoW when he's only played the beta? He played and (obviously) enjoyed WoW for 3+ years and all of a sudden a game with flashy graphics is going to be the end all because he played it on a weekend? What happens when he gets into the meat of the game in Aion and realizes that there isn't much more substance to what he saw in the beta? What happens when he's 6 months into Aion and realizes that PvP in the Abyss is boring as hell since it's the same crap over and over? Maybe that won't happen, but it usually does because we've seen it now with every other game that has launched since WoW launched.
Of course,
What you wrote Sir is about the exact synthesis of what makes Blizzard having 60% of the marketshare with western subs based MMO's (not even talking about the inflated almost free to play internet café numbers on that strange planet called China).
The so called WOW competitors are making it Blizzard SOOOOO easy to maintain momentum.
It is as if these guys are PAID by Blizzard to push the duds over to the players one by one.
And in fact it gets ... worse and worse.
Instead of opening up NEW MMO games, they make exact copies of the perfect game that is already being made for >5 years.
Every single person that plays WOW KNOWS what the best game is out there.
The rest is peanuts. We are talking of 0.1 to 1.3% of WOW markets.
And still people (like the OP) think they could be taken seriously.
Comon guys: stop fooling yourlselves: YOU ALL play WOW and stop being frustrated by it.
It is the best you can get. Period.
Or ... is there somebody else hiding in the closet BETTER and with MORE money than Blizzard. Of course not.
WOW Maybe the best thing out there but it shouldnt be. It sucks other games have done the same thing as WOW but better in one aspect or another. The WOW killer has yet to come because no one has taken WOW and made every part of it way better. WOW is a jack of all trades. Hence the only game that can KILL THE BITCH is a better JACK OF ALL TRADES. The WOW KILLER will have better Esport/World PVP/PVE/PVPVE/ETC..... I played wow for all of 6 months maxed out 2 character and was so bored just because i couldnt find anything better. What i dont understand is why this is still being mentioned. He said he was bored of WOW. Aion may not be the perma solution its just his next stop till something better comes along hopefully.
WOW is CRACK with great advertising. Just like IPOD its not the best in any aspect. Many other MP3 players have better sound quality/headphones/batery life etc... Just no one has put the whole package together. When it happens IPOD AND WOW WILL DIE FASTER THAN IT IS NOW.
Honestly im not shocked by the amount of intrest/hype Aion has generated new MMO's always do, I even bought into myself and pre-ordered the game and have since played in two closed beta events.
But honestly I wasnt impressed, despite the amount of polish the game has it just felt so very generic and boring. Now thats not to say its a bad game but it really brings nothing new to the table...it reminded me of a blend of world of warcraft and the perfect world (a F2P asian mmo with wings/flying combat).
World design: Overall very nice, some great set pieces but going from the world map the "world" is very small only 6 zones (total) per faction.
NPC design: This was really off putting for me, no matter were I was I ended up fighting some little cute animal...slaughtering apprently vicous hamsters for 2 hours was a drag.
Character creation: Its great, offers loads of customisation. But they do all have a very manga style look about them.
Gameplay: Tried and true, with a few combo chains. Good but not great.
Flying: Fun when its allowed, gliding can be effective if you master it.
Unless it's a technology, WoW can't be killed guys. Get over it. It's like counter-strike, it just won't go the fuck away. But eventually the population dwindles.
2) Myth: Aion is polished.
Aion is new, even WoW wasn't polished when it came out. And stop using the term 'polished' everytime you feel it's necessary, chances are it's not.
Do you have the willpower to delete YOUR wow toons? XD
You guys just don't get it. Open your mind ... ask yourself "Why is every game compared to Wow?" It is THE 800 pound gorilla of MMO gaming. No matter what the reason for this is ... it is unrefutale.
So stop saying "WoW' sucks!!!
Because you would not and could not have a credible and valid opinion of "WoW' unless at one time you thought "WoW" was enjoyable enough play long enough to be able form a credible assement of the game.
You lose all your credibility when you scream "WoW sucks"! followed by "I played it for three years" do that, not to mention being a hypocrit.
Be honest with yourself (if no one else) and simply state the truth which prolly goes something like this:
"I played WoW and enjoyed it enough to take a character to 60+ but I'm burnt out now sooo... ; or I don't like the direction it's goinig: or I'm just ready for something new."
Screaming "WoW Sucks" after you played it to so long ... kinda makes you ... well ... unbelievable.
1) Myth: Our savior the WoW-Killer will come. Unless it's a technology, WoW can't be killed guys. Get over it. It's like counter-strike, it just won't go the fuck away. But eventually the population dwindles. 2) Myth: Aion is polished. Aion is new, even WoW wasn't polished when it came out. And stop using the term 'polished' everytime you feel it's necessary, chances are it's not.
Your first myth will hopefully remain one. The gender does not need another WoW giant, but instead more diversified products. If another giant emerges, so will the army of copycats. End result, it will take us a considerable amount of years before people start producing something somewhat diversified.
As for the second, it's not a Myth. The strongest selling point for Aion at this point is not "innovation" or next-gen" or whatever the hype marketing machine was spewing, but stability and performance. You can see from the post on these forums and from the people experiencing the beta, that this is indeed the truth. Many find it boring, the looks too anime, PvP forced etc (various faults), but noone is complaining about performance, even when a considerable crowd is present on the screen.
1) Myth: Our savior the WoW-Killer will come. Unless it's a technology, WoW can't be killed guys. Get over it. It's like counter-strike, it just won't go the fuck away. But eventually the population dwindles. 2) Myth: Aion is polished. Aion is new, even WoW wasn't polished when it came out. And stop using the term 'polished' everytime you feel it's necessary, chances are it's not.
Chances are it isnt polished? Does this mean you havnt played the game and if not where may i ask to you get your opinions? Well ive played in three betas now and if polished means that it runs smooth and is virtually bug free, then yes, the game is poished.
I'm a long time WoW player and an active endgame raider. This past six months my eyes have started to wander a bit and now with the latest content patch I've come to the point where I am actively looking for a new game so headlines like this grab my interest.
WoW doesn't suck, it's very successful. However 3 years is a lot of time to play a game and in the end you grow jaded, it's harder and harder for the game to surprise you and in the end you start hoping there's something new out there. It doesn't even necessarily have to be that much better, just a little bit different in those essential points that have started to annoy you more and more.
However it's hard to get a sense of what Aion is really offering when it comes to (endgame) PvE. Would you say there's any better alternatives out there?
I'm a long time WoW player and an active endgame raider. This past six months my eyes have started to wander a bit and now with the latest content patch I've come to the point where I am actively looking for a new game so headlines like this grab my interest. WoW doesn't suck, it's very successful. However 3 years is a lot of time to play a game and in the end you grow jaded, it's harder and harder for the game to surprise you and in the end you start hoping there's something new out there. It doesn't even necessarily have to be that much better, just a little bit different in those essential points that have started to annoy you more and more. However it's hard to get a sense of what Aion is really offering when it comes to (endgame) PvE. Would you say there's any better alternatives out there?
Truth is, unless someone has played the game with the 1.5 patch installed we just dont know. It is a PVP game, they call it PVPVE but its basically a PVP game. That said, there is supposed to be a lot of PVE content added with this patch.
The Aion advocates amuse me in this thread. When you get down to it, it is just another asian grinder. They tried to innovate and offer more for the western audience, but in the end you just can't hide the fact of what it is.
I hope many of you get lots of enjoyment from this game, but in the end you can bet many of you will end up criticizing it on this board as it really does not offer anything different in the end. Just another fantasy themed MMO with the usual levels and classes nonsense.
Wow sucks...I guess I'll log in a bit more...god I hate WoW ooo look the new expansion collectors edition..Blizzard suxorz!!!! woot I scored tickets to Blizzcon!
I had a girlfriend like that once.....could not stand her but I always woke up in her bed.
This sword here at my side dont act the way it should Keeps calling me its master, but I feel like its slave Hauling me faster and faster to an early, early grave And it howls! it howls like hell!
Thank you OP & all the posters, It was a great read from two extremes.
I just don't understand why some people can't take one persons opinion at face value and wish him well on his future journeys.
P.S: See you in game OP.
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Maybe you should travel to asia to see how many subs Aion has taken from WoW only after a year of release )) 3.5+ million and counting, not bad for a little Korean game. Are blizzard worried? you bet they are.
Was Aion free to play in Asia or was there a subscription, If so do you know how much they were paying?
I'm right there with you, Robert! I've been playing WoW since closed beta in 2004 (when Warriors could use Charge in combat!), and it's been a hard MMO to replace. However, with the directions that WoW has gone, and my own personal interest in the game waning, I was really looking for something fresh and new, that was also a worthy successor. Aion is definitely that game.
I've been trying out the betas, and I've managed to avoid the temptation to level multiple alts in order to focus on one character and see the higher end content to see if the game was worth sticking with. It is, and I cannot wait for release.
I hate to say it, but the op will be back to playing WoW in a month when he realizes that Aion is a huge grind fest with a really poorly done flying system. (one of the main focal points of the game) Not saying WoW isn't a grind fest, but the questing is at least enjoyable and the grinds are usually pretty small compared to other games. (casual) Why jump ship from an already polished game with tons of content to a game that is trying to redo what the polished game has already succeeded at doing. Aion is just going to ride the coat tails of WoW just like every other MMORPG will in the forseeable future.
It's ok, you don't understand the OP because you're not yet bored from the game to the point where you don't want to even see the login screen, let alone play the game. When you reach that point, there is no turning back.
Thank you Xasapis. I couldn't have said it better myself.
Me and most of my guild will NOT be going back to WoW. I'll bet the ranch on that...lol. Most of us have "given" our accounts away for a nice sum of cash. We're taking the summer off and ready for Aion on Sept 20.
Honestly, the only people who are allowed to like Aion are 15 yr old girls. It's so amazingly "Asian-trite" as I like to call it. If you like it, and you're not a 15 yr old girl, well, sorry, you have issues.
Calling people NCSoft fanbois is lame... but also a compliment to the company so the jokes on you really. You're saying a company is so good that it has such a big and loyal following. NCSoft thanks you.
But yeah WoW is getting old, Aion is newer and has gotten a lot of positive feedback... and a lot of the negative feedback has just been ignorance. Leaving WoW for Aion might be a good choice.. in a couple of year Aion could really be exciting and epic. I guess we will see.
Calling people NCSoft fanbois is lame... but also a compliment to the company so the jokes on you really. You're saying a company is so good that it has such a big and loyal following. NCSoft thanks you. But yeah WoW is getting old, Aion is newer and has gotten a lot of positive feedback... and a lot of the negative feedback has just been ignorance. Leaving WoW for Aion might be a good choice.. in a couple of year Aion could really be exciting and epic. I guess we will see.
personally i think he is a payed? fanboi because he hails to evrey single piece of crap that the ncsoft company is spitting out:
from aion in evrey facet over gameguard and blah-blah everything this company produces is like sliced bread.
such biased one sided stuff can only be continually pushed forward to nearly every forum by someone who is a FANBOI and nothing else.
It was a paid hourly model. Dont remember the cost but there is a video review of aion on youtube that explained the chinese cost structure, it essentially cost him $9 for the first month he played given the amount of time he played the chinese release the first month.
The turnover section made me smile quite a bit...I think in the end (and what the realize now with revamping old content), is that they had plenty of wasted opportunity, but rushed to appease the top 5%. Even though now they "player-friendly" the hell out of everything (hence kinda of shunning the top 5%), the mix appeasement has created a mish-mash player base, most of which are content but not "eager to login" every night. Blizzard is attempting to make everyone happy and in the process is bringing about alot of mixed feelings (and veteran quitters, like myself).
Aion is a good game, I don't think its better than WoW (personally), but I can see why people are excited for something new - just as I am for the coming FFXIV. I just feel sorry for those still playing WoW that are only moderately happy or raiding for the sake of keeping their raid slot...tis a shame with the cache of new games coming about....
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People aren't butt hurt over others wanting to play another game, they are just tired of everyone for years constantly trashing WoW/Blizzard. It's really sad people have to trash another game, just to justify playing a new one.
Perhaps when others stop bashing WoW every chance they get, you won't see people coming around to defend the game?
We all know all these years later people are finally burnt out on WoW, why can't you all just move to another game without bashing WoW?
I played WAR, bought a CE and everything, the game was fun for what it was, i stop playing it a month later. I don't bash the game into the ground to justify going to another game or back to WoW.
You don't go into another games forum expecting most people to be encouraging another. In fact, if there wasn't any wow or war or any other MMO bashing, I wouldn't play the game. Albeit there's a point where passion can turn into OCD over a certain game(most people call them fan boys).
The point is, if you hate Aion, or don't plan on playing it, don't start the hate on others for listing reasons why Aion will be better then their previous mmo. Because that's what a 'wow bash' basically is.
Also, Aion fans shouldn't be putting the hate-on for wow lovers that want to stick their foot in the Aion doorway lol (although they are KIND OF asking for it).
Do you have the willpower to delete YOUR wow toons? XD
[Retired: WoW, RO, EvE, WaR, AoC, LoTR]
I don't agree on the "nicely written" part brother.
here is the OP's extract on WOW :
WoW's PvP system has degenerated to arenas. World PvP was too hard for Blizzard, so they got rid of it. Wintergrasp was too hard for Blizzard, so they got rid of it. Battlegrounds were to fun for Blizzard (WSG and AV anyway), so they took all the fun out of those. Battlegrounds were originally a place for enjoyable PvP, but were then turned into just another part of the grind. Blizzard turning their PvP system into a quality e-sport has ruined large scale PvP battles. They did succeed at making an e-sport, to a point. While anyone can watch an FPS tournament and know what is going on, watching a WoW tournament takes some serious knowledge about the game. It succeeded, but it still ruined WoW PvP.
The day patch 3.2 comes out - rather very good and even game altering PvP patch - it is the typical Wow trolling content we always see at our doorstep.
Supported by that dreadful Chief editor of mmorpg.com with such words as "sexy" shows it all.
Stradden was the man who found Warhammer "a very good game" btw. Remember?
Same hype same tasteless pushing of duds ...
In fact they just don't realise it ... they push WOW even to bigger heights with promoting these kind of bad copycats.
Stating that LAke Wintergrasp is ... 'get rid of it". LW is for certain the MOST and VASTLY played PvP zone in ANY MMORPG world wide.
How pathetic.
Zorndorf, let me ask you something, do you have a right to bash editors of the website? Actually, it's quite unprofessional behavior from you. Their opinion doesn't have to match with your one. Good/bad is a point of view and if you love wow and hate other games accusing them of being copycats or something that doesn't mean everyone else should do the same.
By saying that Blizzard is getting rid of Lake Wintergrasp, OP most likely wants to say that Blizzard put the limits 120 v 120. What do you mean by telling that "LW is for certain the MOST and VASTLY played PVP zone in any MMORPG?" Are you serious? Have you seen sieges of Lineage 2 in Korea where ~500-700 players fight for castles. Let's look at eve. Lots LOTS of ships. Not the set number of 240.
By the way. Tell me, how patch 3.2 is going to alter the game's PVP system. Is it going to revive world PvP? Is it going to give the meaning for pointless battleground and arena fights?
And finally I'm not a AION fanboy. To be honest, I think it will flop in US due to poor management. That thing killed L2 in the west too.
I love the fact that you mentioned Eve Online. 500-700 HA try again try 2000-3000+++ So many that it crashes the node. Most battles are small skirmishes/hit and run 5v5 10v10 30v30. But when you add 500 diffrent fights of 30v30 etc.. it adds up. Once or twice a month the average player who isnt a carebare(eve term for non pvp players) will see a really nasty fight off a couple hundred ships on each side. And atleast a couple times a year you will see fight of thousands of ship on each side. Eve is the KING OF THE SANDBOX. Everygame should be sandbox. Not this of sorry buddy im already on this server not that one. 300000 paying suscribers all on the same server all fighting(except gay carebares)for supremecy. Corporation(guilds in eve are companies) get so big that they have sub guilds for new players/to prevent corporate spies. Get this one if you play enough make enough ingame money you can pay for the game with it.
PS. If you think most ppl use ingame money to pay the game i've checked the numbers and the 300000 counts only the paying suscribers not the guy who pay with ingame money everymonth. Which isnt an easy task. Real time training Booyah
Of course,
What you wrote Sir is about the exact synthesis of what makes Blizzard having 60% of the marketshare with western subs based MMO's (not even talking about the inflated almost free to play internet café numbers on that strange planet called China).
The so called WOW competitors are making it Blizzard SOOOOO easy to maintain momentum.
It is as if these guys are PAID by Blizzard to push the duds over to the players one by one.
And in fact it gets ... worse and worse.
Instead of opening up NEW MMO games, they make exact copies of the perfect game that is already being made for >5 years.
Every single person that plays WOW KNOWS what the best game is out there.
The rest is peanuts. We are talking of 0.1 to 1.3% of WOW markets.
And still people (like the OP) think they could be taken seriously.
Comon guys: stop fooling yourlselves: YOU ALL play WOW and stop being frustrated by it.
It is the best you can get. Period.
Or ... is there somebody else hiding in the closet BETTER and with MORE money than Blizzard. Of course not.
WOW Maybe the best thing out there but it shouldnt be. It sucks other games have done the same thing as WOW but better in one aspect or another. The WOW killer has yet to come because no one has taken WOW and made every part of it way better. WOW is a jack of all trades. Hence the only game that can KILL THE BITCH is a better JACK OF ALL TRADES. The WOW KILLER will have better Esport/World PVP/PVE/PVPVE/ETC..... I played wow for all of 6 months maxed out 2 character and was so bored just because i couldnt find anything better. What i dont understand is why this is still being mentioned. He said he was bored of WOW. Aion may not be the perma solution its just his next stop till something better comes along hopefully.
WOW is CRACK with great advertising. Just like IPOD its not the best in any aspect. Many other MP3 players have better sound quality/headphones/batery life etc... Just no one has put the whole package together. When it happens IPOD AND WOW WILL DIE FASTER THAN IT IS NOW.
Honestly im not shocked by the amount of intrest/hype Aion has generated new MMO's always do, I even bought into myself and pre-ordered the game and have since played in two closed beta events.
But honestly I wasnt impressed, despite the amount of polish the game has it just felt so very generic and boring. Now thats not to say its a bad game but it really brings nothing new to the table...it reminded me of a blend of world of warcraft and the perfect world (a F2P asian mmo with wings/flying combat).
World design: Overall very nice, some great set pieces but going from the world map the "world" is very small only 6 zones (total) per faction.
NPC design: This was really off putting for me, no matter were I was I ended up fighting some little cute animal...slaughtering apprently vicous hamsters for 2 hours was a drag.
Character creation: Its great, offers loads of customisation. But they do all have a very manga style look about them.
Gameplay: Tried and true, with a few combo chains. Good but not great.
Flying: Fun when its allowed, gliding can be effective if you master it.
1) Myth: Our savior the WoW-Killer will come.
Unless it's a technology, WoW can't be killed guys. Get over it. It's like counter-strike, it just won't go the fuck away. But eventually the population dwindles.
2) Myth: Aion is polished.
Aion is new, even WoW wasn't polished when it came out. And stop using the term 'polished' everytime you feel it's necessary, chances are it's not.
Do you have the willpower to delete YOUR wow toons? XD
[Retired: WoW, RO, EvE, WaR, AoC, LoTR]
You guys just don't get it. Open your mind ... ask yourself "Why is every game compared to Wow?" It is THE 800 pound gorilla of MMO gaming. No matter what the reason for this is ... it is unrefutale.
So stop saying "WoW' sucks!!!
Because you would not and could not have a credible and valid opinion of "WoW' unless at one time you thought "WoW" was enjoyable enough play long enough to be able form a credible assement of the game.
You lose all your credibility when you scream "WoW sucks"! followed by "I played it for three years" do that, not to mention being a hypocrit.
Be honest with yourself (if no one else) and simply state the truth which prolly goes something like this:
"I played WoW and enjoyed it enough to take a character to 60+ but I'm burnt out now sooo... ; or I don't like the direction it's goinig: or I'm just ready for something new."
Screaming "WoW Sucks" after you played it to so long ... kinda makes you ... well ... unbelievable.
Think about it.
Your first myth will hopefully remain one. The gender does not need another WoW giant, but instead more diversified products. If another giant emerges, so will the army of copycats. End result, it will take us a considerable amount of years before people start producing something somewhat diversified.
As for the second, it's not a Myth. The strongest selling point for Aion at this point is not "innovation" or next-gen" or whatever the hype marketing machine was spewing, but stability and performance. You can see from the post on these forums and from the people experiencing the beta, that this is indeed the truth. Many find it boring, the looks too anime, PvP forced etc (various faults), but noone is complaining about performance, even when a considerable crowd is present on the screen.
Chances are it isnt polished? Does this mean you havnt played the game and if not where may i ask to you get your opinions? Well ive played in three betas now and if polished means that it runs smooth and is virtually bug free, then yes, the game is poished.
I'm a long time WoW player and an active endgame raider. This past six months my eyes have started to wander a bit and now with the latest content patch I've come to the point where I am actively looking for a new game so headlines like this grab my interest.
WoW doesn't suck, it's very successful. However 3 years is a lot of time to play a game and in the end you grow jaded, it's harder and harder for the game to surprise you and in the end you start hoping there's something new out there. It doesn't even necessarily have to be that much better, just a little bit different in those essential points that have started to annoy you more and more.
However it's hard to get a sense of what Aion is really offering when it comes to (endgame) PvE. Would you say there's any better alternatives out there?
Truth is, unless someone has played the game with the 1.5 patch installed we just dont know. It is a PVP game, they call it PVPVE but its basically a PVP game. That said, there is supposed to be a lot of PVE content added with this patch.
Like Queen Elisabeth I. always uses to say in such cases "How interesting for you."
Really. Never liked WOW, don't like Aion much so far either. *shrug*
The Aion advocates amuse me in this thread. When you get down to it, it is just another asian grinder. They tried to innovate and offer more for the western audience, but in the end you just can't hide the fact of what it is.
I hope many of you get lots of enjoyment from this game, but in the end you can bet many of you will end up criticizing it on this board as it really does not offer anything different in the end. Just another fantasy themed MMO with the usual levels and classes nonsense.
Wow sucks...I guess I'll log in a bit more...god I hate WoW ooo look the new expansion collectors edition..Blizzard suxorz!!!! woot I scored tickets to Blizzcon!
I had a girlfriend like that once.....could not stand her but I always woke up in her bed.
This sword here at my side dont act the way it should
Keeps calling me its master, but I feel like its slave
Hauling me faster and faster to an early, early grave
And it howls! it howls like hell!
Thank you OP & all the posters, It was a great read from two extremes.
I just don't understand why some people can't take one persons opinion at face value and wish him well on his future journeys.
P.S: See you in game OP.
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From my beta time in Aion, I would say that Aion just hasn't got what it takes to contend. It will very quickly become a dead parrot.
I will give it 10/10 for boredom.
Maybe you should travel to asia to see how many subs Aion has taken from WoW only after a year of release
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3.5+ million and counting, not bad for a little Korean game.
Are blizzard worried? you bet they are.
GW2 the future of MMO gaming
Was Aion free to play in Asia or was there a subscription, If so do you know how much they were paying?
I'm right there with you, Robert! I've been playing WoW since closed beta in 2004 (when Warriors could use Charge in combat!), and it's been a hard MMO to replace. However, with the directions that WoW has gone, and my own personal interest in the game waning, I was really looking for something fresh and new, that was also a worthy successor. Aion is definitely that game.
I've been trying out the betas, and I've managed to avoid the temptation to level multiple alts in order to focus on one character and see the higher end content to see if the game was worth sticking with. It is, and I cannot wait for release.
LOL for all you fan boys I'll shout it in plain english:
AION is NOT the WoW Killer .... Nexxxxt
It's ok, you don't understand the OP because you're not yet bored from the game to the point where you don't want to even see the login screen, let alone play the game. When you reach that point, there is no turning back.
Thank you Xasapis. I couldn't have said it better myself.
Me and most of my guild will NOT be going back to WoW. I'll bet the ranch on that...lol. Most of us have "given" our accounts away for a nice sum of cash. We're taking the summer off and ready for Aion on Sept 20.
Heres your cookie.
*shows the ncsoft fanboi the way to HIS forum*
Calling people NCSoft fanbois is lame... but also a compliment to the company so the jokes on you really. You're saying a company is so good that it has such a big and loyal following. NCSoft thanks you.
But yeah WoW is getting old, Aion is newer and has gotten a lot of positive feedback... and a lot of the negative feedback has just been ignorance. Leaving WoW for Aion might be a good choice.. in a couple of year Aion could really be exciting and epic. I guess we will see.
personally i think he is a payed? fanboi because he hails to evrey single piece of crap that the ncsoft company is spitting out:
from aion in evrey facet over gameguard and blah-blah everything this company produces is like sliced bread.
such biased one sided stuff can only be continually pushed forward to nearly every forum by someone who is a FANBOI and nothing else.
It was a paid hourly model. Dont remember the cost but there is a video review of aion on youtube that explained the chinese cost structure, it essentially cost him $9 for the first month he played given the amount of time he played the chinese release the first month.
The turnover section made me smile quite a bit...I think in the end (and what the realize now with revamping old content), is that they had plenty of wasted opportunity, but rushed to appease the top 5%. Even though now they "player-friendly" the hell out of everything (hence kinda of shunning the top 5%), the mix appeasement has created a mish-mash player base, most of which are content but not "eager to login" every night. Blizzard is attempting to make everyone happy and in the process is bringing about alot of mixed feelings (and veteran quitters, like myself).
Aion is a good game, I don't think its better than WoW (personally), but I can see why people are excited for something new - just as I am for the coming FFXIV. I just feel sorry for those still playing WoW that are only moderately happy or raiding for the sake of keeping their raid slot...tis a shame with the cache of new games coming about....