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world of warcraft cataclysm - succses or failure ??

What do you think, will wow cata be a dissapiontment, or will it make total domination on the mmo market ?

Cataclysm is blizzards most expensive expansion pack they ever worked with, and it seems difrent a new then BC and WOTLK.

I must admist i cant wait for it, and i think it will make total domination, and claim more of the mmo market.

What do you think ?

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  • kingtommyboykingtommyboy Member Posts: 543

    I agree,

    Cataclysm will be the best wow expansion to date :)

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  • Methos12Methos12 Member UncommonPosts: 1,244

    Although it remains to be seen how the stats changes and other technical details will turn out in the end, this is undoubtably the most expansive expansion (:D) so far and I'm pretty confident Blizzard's gonna rock the MMO scene once again.

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  • coffeecoffee Member Posts: 2,007

    I think it will breath new life into WoW and more ex WoW players will come back to check it out than they did for TBC and Wotlk.. it's a cool way to go back bring the 5 year old content up to pace with the new content model. 

    And theres pleanty of new stuff for current players too.. 5 extra level (longer to lvl than wotlk), 7 new zones of areas players have been waiting to see for 5 years such as grimbatol, whole new talent tree system, new character advancement system at level 85, locks and hunters get reworked resource systems, new profession that link into the character advancement system, lots of guild stuff such as talent tree's, achievements and UI.

    I could go on forever.. but I must say Im looking forward to Cata than I did Wotlk.

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  • QuirhidQuirhid Member UncommonPosts: 6,230

    Maybe. Just maybe I'll try out the free trial.

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  • Psycho2kPsycho2k Member Posts: 63

    It will dominate the MMO market (lets be honest the competition isn't huge at the minute) simply because its WoW, but it probably wont take long before people start complaining about how its still too easy and more of the same with a new coat of paint.

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  • ApollosCredeApollosCrede Member Posts: 4

     If Cataclysm fails I feel that I won't be returning back to WoW. In my own opinion, WoTLK destroyed the game for me. Don't get me wrong it was fun leveling and stuff, but it just wasn't worth it.

  • LorgarnLorgarn Member UncommonPosts: 417

    I have alot of faith in Cataclysm, i personally believe and hope thats its going to blow my mind.



    Whether its going to be a success or not, im pretty much certain it will.(opinions)



    Though, if its going to "dominate" or just be a "success", i cant tell.



     

  • AxehiltAxehilt Member RarePosts: 10,504

    It'll give WOW a breath of newness, but keep in mind: even with a huge influx of content, it's still the same game people have played for years, so the game's incurring a faster and faster rate of player attrition from boredom and tech lag.

    In some ways I compare WOTLK with Nintendo's "create a gamer demographic, then fail to grow up along with them" mistakes of the N64 (and GC), which cost Nintendo its dominant market share (and lost them a lot of customers who would've otherwise loyally followed Nintendo.)  The WOTLK parallel is game difficulty, with WOTLK stumbling along -- definitely failing to provide interesting challenges while leveling, and somewhat failing to provide them in on-release raid content.

    My hope is Blizzard, unlike Nintendo, realizes that both roads need to be walked.  You need to create a game which is both inviting to new players and provides consistent challenges for veterans (with appropriate rewards.)

    But again, no matter how perfect Cataclysm is WOW is still a 6+ year old gameplay pattern slowly wearing out for more and more players.  Definitely buying it, but I suspect my time in WOW:C might be shorter than my 5-6 months of WOTLK.

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  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856
    Originally posted by Andr4599


    What do you think, will wow cata be a dissapiontment, or will it make total domination on the mmo market ?
    Cataclysm is blizzards most expensive expansion pack they ever worked with, and it seems difrent a new then BC and WOTLK.
    I must admist i cant wait for it, and i think it will make total domination, and claim more of the mmo market.
    What do you think ?

    not sure yet !since we re not sure how they will do this!we ll have to wait !it could be a total failure or it could be a total success

     

    but since blizzard by then will have ton of competitor ,the behemoth  guild wars 2 will be close on their toes ,so if blizzard doesnt make the right choice

    they could have a nasty susprise and see wow loose a lot of player to gw2 and lot of other very hyped title.

  • uquipuuquipu Member Posts: 1,516

     My predictions

    The WoW community will love cataclysm

    A vocal minority will complain about just about everything, including minute, meaningless, details.

     

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  • karat76karat76 Member UncommonPosts: 1,000
    Originally posted by uquipu


     My predictions
    The WoW community will love cataclysm
    A vocal minority will complain about just about everything, including minute, meaningless, details.
     

      I agree with you. I will most likely buy a copy for my wife and I and roll another alt because that is pretty much what i do is make and level alts as I loathe raiding. I get a toon the best nonraid gear I can then use it to farm or run friends through dungeons otherwise i work on one on many alts. Best thing for me would be if they gave 5 man versions of all raid content and just lowered the loot table. I was in a guild of over 400 people until some wanted to start raiding and then the guild fell apart with a division between  people with jobs and families and those who were in college or single.

  • VegettaVegetta Member Posts: 438

    I got tired of WOW before The Burning Crusade Came out. There is nothing in the new xpac that would make me want to play wow again but for people that enjoy the game I think it will be a big success.

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  • RohnRohn Member UncommonPosts: 3,730
    Originally posted by uquipu


     My predictions
    The WoW community will love cataclysm
    A vocal minority will complain about just about everything, including minute, meaningless, details.
     



     

    I agree completely.  A lot of the things in Cataclysm sound like they will be pretty successful in keeping their current players interested, and will probably lure more than a few former players back for at least a while.

    Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  • FunballFunball Member Posts: 62

    I'll buy it, and I'll play it, of that I'm sure.

     

    By any stretch of the imagination, in comparison to any other MMO, it will be a success, if by no other reason than this genre keeps pumping out half-assed, poorly-made garbage. 

  • godseek3rgodseek3r Member Posts: 76

    I believe it will be a success, looking at the past, but am worried that the drastic changes may cause an exodus, the likes of which we've never seen, once the changes are fully realized.

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  • Frostbite05Frostbite05 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,880
    Originally posted by godseek3r


    I believe it will be a success, looking at the past, but am worried that the drastic changes may cause an exodus, the likes of which we've never seen, once the changes are fully realized.

     

    Don't be nothings changing enough to make people want to leave the expansion is moving forward but also going back to the games roots in vanilla. Should make most of the population happy.

  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690

    I see this being no different than the previous expanions except that the old worlds will get a facelift. The grind to 80 along with old armors being obsolete that everyone complained about in the previous expansions will still be there. Blizzard will just keep on milking the cash cow.

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  • godseek3rgodseek3r Member Posts: 76
    Originally posted by Frostbite05

    Originally posted by godseek3r


    I believe it will be a success, looking at the past, but am worried that the drastic changes may cause an exodus, the likes of which we've never seen, once the changes are fully realized.

     

    Don't be nothings changing enough to make people want to leave the expansion is moving forward but also going back to the games roots in vanilla. Should make most of the population happy.



     

    I'm just saying, you never know...

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  • BloodDualityBloodDuality Member UncommonPosts: 404

    I think it will be a success, and just seeing the old world change would be really interesting to see. This sort of thing I think would be nice to see going on slowly though in any mmo. For example an mmo could have a storm one day damage part of a port city, and then after that the city slowly get repaired. Minor changes could also slowly be introduced like camps being destroyed and npc power changes thoughout the world. Just seems like these sorts of things would always make the world seem a bit different and a bit more alive.

    Catackysm is just doing some of the things I would like to see done, but instead of slowly over time it's happening all at once. I just don't know if such a thing will be enough to make me consider playing wow again. I am sure though everyone currently playing will love it, and all probably look forward to creating a new toon with one of the new races.

  • seeyouspacec0wboyseeyouspacec0wboy Member UncommonPosts: 714

     lol its world of warcraft, of course it will be a success. If WoW players haven't been dissapointed by the changes made up until now, why would they care what this next expansion holds? At least its something new, kinda.

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    is it the graphics? the repetativenesses? i mean what is the point? you could be so much more productive in real life
    Real life brings repetition and pointlessness too. The only thing real life offers is Great graphics. Its kinda expensive too and way to dependent on the cash shop. Totally pay to win as well. No thank you. Ill stick to my games.

  • pencilrickpencilrick Member Posts: 1,550
    Originally posted by Andr4599


    What do you think, will wow cata be a dissapiontment, or will it make total domination on the mmo market ?
    Cataclysm is blizzards most expensive expansion pack they ever worked with, and it seems difrent a new then BC and WOTLK.
    I must admist i cant wait for it, and i think it will make total domination, and claim more of the mmo market.
    What do you think ?



     

    I think "Cataclysm" will revive WOW long enough for Blizzard to get their new "secret" MMO into place in a couple of years.

    The best thing about "Cataclysm" is if they overdo "phasing" and it comes back to bite them, then maybe we will not see too much of "phasing" in their new "secret" MMO.  (I mostly see the last 7 years of MMO design as trying a bunch of stuff that shouldn't and didn't work, serving to get it off the table).

  • djazzydjazzy Member Posts: 3,578

    what is so wrong with phasing? I thought it was one of the better parts of the WotLK expansion. WotLK was a disappointment for me overall though, some of it has to do with the xpac itself and some of it has to do with me playing the game since beta.

    People who enjoy WoW now will enjoy the Cataclysm expansion. Some ex players might return to see the new stuff but I know a lot of ex players that aren't coming back. I am undecided at this point, nothing from the upcoming xpac really excites me.

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856
    Originally posted by Frostbite05

    Originally posted by godseek3r


    I believe it will be a success, looking at the past, but am worried that the drastic changes may cause an exodus, the likes of which we've never seen, once the changes are fully realized.

     

    Don't be nothings changing enough to make people want to leave the expansion is moving forward but also going back to the games roots in vanilla. Should make most of the population happy.

     

    hell im wishing with all my heart your right about wow resurecting some vanilla wow feature

  • vladakovvladakov Member Posts: 710

     i´d be willing to bet my life on it that it will be a succes, simply because,  it will be the best

    and thats the truth, the truth, and nothing but the truth. 

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  • pencilrickpencilrick Member Posts: 1,550
    Originally posted by arenasb


    what is so wrong with phasing? I thought it was one of the better parts of the WotLK expansion. WotLK was a disappointment for me overall though, some of it has to do with the xpac itself and some of it has to do with me playing the game since beta.
    People who enjoy WoW now will enjoy the Cataclysm expansion. Some ex players might return to see the new stuff but I know a lot of ex players that aren't coming back. I am undecided at this point, nothing from the upcoming xpac really excites me.



     

    Well, "phasing" feels artificial and it separates players who normally would be standing upon the same ground right next to each other.  It is a contrived and false game mechanic, and therefore a hit upon immersion. Now, to WOW designers, "phasing" is a method to vary the same square footage without expanding a zone, but it is still another form of instancing.

    I was disappointed with WOLTK too; I felt it was more an expansion of a storyline than the game world.  I prefer dynamic and spontaneous play to forced, scripted, storyline, on-rails gameplay.

    I agree that "people who enjoy WOW will enjoy Cataclysm."

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