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Poll: How would you rate the open beta thus far?
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Explain?
Crap. I've played the game for about an hour.
There is no introduction, no beginner help, nothing.
You spawn and that's it. The world is extremely empty, not to mention the lag.
550 votes so far and the open beta is getting a failing grade. Majority of the people have given it a 5 or lower.
Fixed that for ya.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
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Bah, statistics. You can present them how you like.
Fix: The majority has given it a 10 or lower!
Would be interesting to get a new poll up when the patcher works properly, and the lag is better and the majority can log in right away. It will be a more fair and interesting poll then!
That would be an interesting poll.
It's like saying, "well, when this thing stops sucking entirely, let's do a poll when it rules!"
Very accurate.
The poll is based on what SV is currently presenting to the public. And the large majority of people think the game is atrocious. When the game gets awesome, then the poll would be meaningless. I really don't know how to explain it to you otherwise.
That would be an interesting poll.
It's like saying, "well, when this thing stops sucking entirely, let's do a poll when it rules!"
Very accurate.
The poll is based on what SV is currently presenting to the public. And the large majority of people think the game is atrocious. When the game gets awesome, then the poll would be meaningless. I really don't know how to explain it to you otherwise.
Yep, my bad! I was too fast, did not see the "open beta" in the OP. Sorry for that!
What I meant with the rest of my msg was that at release, IF they get those problems away or minimized, then I would like to see a new poll up. In that case, it will at least be fair to judging the "game play", not the lag or the patcher problem which the most posts here is all about.
My bad!
That would be an interesting poll.
It's like saying, "well, when this thing stops sucking entirely, let's do a poll when it rules!"
Very accurate.
The poll is based on what SV is currently presenting to the public. And the large majority of people think the game is atrocious. When the game gets awesome, then the poll would be meaningless. I really don't know how to explain it to you otherwise.
Yep, my bad! I was too fast, did not see the "open beta" in the OP. Sorry for that!
What I meant with the rest of my msg was that at release, IF they get those problems away or minimized, then I would like to see a new poll up. In that case, it will at least be fair to judging the "game play", not the lag or the patcher problem which the most posts here is all about.
My bad!
I would hazard a guess, that even without lag or patcher problems, the game would still get a low rating because it has no depth and no solid design other than "take everything that worked in other games and dump it in".
Well, since you have you sinde of it all. This is something I will not even argue with. All I was saying, that a poll (with no lag, no problems with patcher etc) would be more fair to the game play and the feel for the game. Reading all this posts says it all. Since some have not been able to patch it, and lag and all and so on, they would obviously have a better first impression, dont you think?
Sure they would, I agree 100%.
Just that the actual gameplay lacks so severely that the lag and bugs are irrelevant, because there's really no content. But I'm not going to keep jumping out with hypotheticals -- the state of the game right now, is going to be close to the state of the game at launch -- if not worse, because of the huge patches and little bug fixing they are doing.
So while I understand your optimism, I think you're in for a bad surprise on launch, if you think that all these things are going to be working or even close to working. The game is borked in so many ways, ways that DF did not have a problem with -- so the comparisons are kind of moot there too. We will see how it looks on launch. I'd rather think the worst and be pleasantly surprised, rather than be an optimist and be let down. That's what happened for me during the DF days, and I was really let down. I'm not going to be let down about MO because I already think it sucks
That would be an interesting poll.
It's like saying, "well, when this thing stops sucking entirely, let's do a poll when it rules!"
Very accurate.
The poll is based on what SV is currently presenting to the public. And the large majority of people think the game is atrocious. When the game gets awesome, then the poll would be meaningless. I really don't know how to explain it to you otherwise.
Yep, my bad! I was too fast, did not see the "open beta" in the OP. Sorry for that!
What I meant with the rest of my msg was that at release, IF they get those problems away or minimized, then I would like to see a new poll up. In that case, it will at least be fair to judging the "game play", not the lag or the patcher problem which the most posts here is all about.
My bad!
I would hazard a guess, that even without lag or patcher problems, the game would still get a low rating because it has no depth and no solid design other than "take everything that worked in other games and dump it in".
I would hazard a guess your wrong. I feel the game is original enough and has the features that would make a great game. Your whole 'no solid design' spiel is supposed to actually sound good but has no thought behind it. I don't care how the game is put together or where the ideas come from so long as the game itself is fun/good to play. I feel there's easily enough depth (more than 90% of games out there) to keep me interested.
At the moment however it sucks ass because many of the functions can not be used easily due to lag etc, so simple actions turn into a laboured, repetative waste of time. Combat is a pointless lottery, for a PvP game that is unforgivable and game breaking.
But it's beta open or whatever until the game goes gold I'll reserve final judgement. The potential alone will not be enough to make people play.
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The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
That would be an interesting poll.
It's like saying, "well, when this thing stops sucking entirely, let's do a poll when it rules!"
Very accurate.
The poll is based on what SV is currently presenting to the public. And the large majority of people think the game is atrocious. When the game gets awesome, then the poll would be meaningless. I really don't know how to explain it to you otherwise.
Yep, my bad! I was too fast, did not see the "open beta" in the OP. Sorry for that!
What I meant with the rest of my msg was that at release, IF they get those problems away or minimized, then I would like to see a new poll up. In that case, it will at least be fair to judging the "game play", not the lag or the patcher problem which the most posts here is all about.
My bad!
I would hazard a guess, that even without lag or patcher problems, the game would still get a low rating because it has no depth and no solid design other than "take everything that worked in other games and dump it in".
I would hazard a guess your wrong. I feel the game is original enough and has the features that would make a great game. Your whole 'no solid design' spiel is supposed to actually sound good but has no thought behind it. I don't care how the game is put together or where the ideas come from so long as the game itself is fun/good to play. I feel there's easily enough depth (more than 90% of games out there) to keep me interested.
At the moment however it sucks ass because many of the functions can not be used easily due to lag etc, so simple actions turn into a laboured, repetative waste of time. Combat is a pointless lottery, for a PvP game that is unforgivable and game breaking.
But it's beta open or whatever until the game goes gold I'll reserve final judgement. The potential alone will not be enough to make people play.
I'll happily be wrong if that's the case... but I think an understanding of history and the development process in general leads me to my conclusion. Granted, "miracle patches" don't really work in practice but if they pull it off, I'll be surprised.
Absolutely.
Mortal's state right now reminds me of the Pirates of the Burning Sea beta. With a beta-level population the game is... workable. But most of the design decisions are so bad that once the game is released and more people come in, all hell will break loose.
The skill system is needlessly complicated, without much feedback at all from the game on what's what. You also can't run thru people! -- till you realize at release these idiots will intentionally block doorways, and attacking them flags you a criminal to the guards.
Want some hilarity? Start a band of several thieves, and use your bodies to trap people in near the furnaces in Meduli. They can't hit you without going gray, and because of lag issues, "shoving" them often also causes you to go grey. How fun, all that ore for the pilfering!
There's a nearly-endless amount of weapons to create, but almost nothing interesting to kill.
There's no in-game map, and no in-game feedback to point you where to get what. This is a critical mistake, as only a fraction of a playerbase ever visits the forums... and only a fraction of those visit regularly. And only a fraction of *those* participate.
And the community is easily one of the most hostile I've encountered. Even on IRC, it gets really bad with the "go back to WoW" chants.
I would hazard a guess,
I would hazard a guess
I'll happily be wrong if that's the case... but I think an understanding of history and the development process in general leads me to my conclusion. Granted, "miracle patches" don't really work in practice but if they pull it off, I'll be surprised.
That's freaky because in my experience and understanding of history and the development process in general leads me to my conclusion. Uncanny. I'll agree with the miracle patch thing, but I don't think they're going to come through with a miracle patch. I think there is a possability that they could upgrade their server cluster and reduce the lag, at which point I'll be happy enough. If that doesn't work the game is dooooomed I tells ya doomed!
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The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
Yes, it is doomed
563 votes, keep going! Lets get this to 600!
Gave it a 2/10
The extra point comes from a truely beautiful world, when I and some friends would go out exploring, it gave the actual feeling of an adventure. And also I loved the insane complexity of the crafting system. (This may be a big negative if your not willing to spend a week+ to get just the very basics down.)
Now the the problem is... well the entire rest of the game is made poorly at the very best. The economy will never work in this current system, the latest patch removed any sort of sandbox element to progression, you are now forced weather you like it or not, to kill npcs regardless of class for starter money. And crafting is now so close to impossible that noone will be a crafter. Not talking about the complexity, I'm reffering to the actual 12 hours of straight gameplay you will do macroing to make a single metal sword that will brake in a few min. use. And since ALL weapons/armor is made by players...
To sum it up, I find this game to have the potential to be a truely great MMO. And at times I've even found myself enjoying it here and there between the forced macroing sessions. Sadly, this game is made by truely amaturish designers without the knowledge, or the skill to pull it off. Their radical sweeping changes of game mechanics to the point of being downright broken, may spell doom for this potentialy epic game. I pray that I am (as unlikely as it may be) proven wrong.
To find an intelligent person in a PUG is not that rare, but to find a PUG made up of "all" intelligent people is one of the rarest phenomenons in the known universe.
It is fun exploring the world, the graphics look awesome... but once you start getting into the basics of the game mechanics, its a total disaster. I would never play the game from what you just told us about what the patch changed.
Partly agree. Graphics aren't awesome. If you look far it looks very good(sky), at close it looks nice(trees, plats and animals) and hideous on icons(seriously is this 90's???). Problem also is that everything feels really static. Sure there is farms, buildings and stuff but they don't have any animation or anything. Also fauna and flora feels scattered, there is no real themes on places, everthing is just planted around to fill empty space. Also things are overly big, making everything feel even more scattered. Animation is horrible on those part that it exists, which isn't much. All UI elements look like coming from 90's Linux desktop. Also the color palet is very brown and dirty, this makes everything lot darker and uglier. Usage of brighter colors and counter colors would make it much prettier yet realistic.
Huge problem is also communication. Sometimes running around you feel like playing single game. Atleast some sort of chat would be needed. Also OB community seems to have lot of mute players, nobody answers anything when you talk to them, suddenly you find yourself missing even Barrens chat.
Bugs, lag,dsync issues are just tip of iceberg. There isn't enough stuff, they build huge sandbox but there isn't enough to do. Most of the time I feel like being wood puppet, there isn't natural moving and having to switch mousemode and back is pain. There is so many design fails that they will back bite somepoint.
I give 2/10 also since it is way too raw game. If SV would have just made small sandbox with lots of toys it might have worked.
Partly agree. Graphics aren't awesome. If you look far it looks very good(sky), at close it looks nice(trees, plats and animals) and hideous on icons(seriously is this 90's???). Problem also is that everything feels really static. Sure there is farms, buildings and stuff but they don't have any animation or anything. Also fauna and flora feels scattered, there is no real themes on places, everthing is just planted around to fill empty space. Also things are overly big, making everything feel even more scattered. Animation is horrible on those part that it exists, which isn't much. All UI elements look like coming from 90's Linux desktop. Also the color palet is very brown and dirty, this makes everything lot darker and uglier. Usage of brighter colors and counter colors would make it much prettier yet realistic.
Huge problem is also communication. Sometimes running around you feel like playing single game. Atleast some sort of chat would be needed. Also OB community seems to have lot of mute players, nobody answers anything when you talk to them, suddenly you find yourself missing even Barrens chat.
Bugs, lag,dsync issues are just tip of iceberg. There isn't enough stuff, they build huge sandbox but there isn't enough to do. Most of the time I feel like being wood puppet, there isn't natural moving and having to switch mousemode and back is pain. There is so many design fails that they will back bite somepoint.
I give 2/10 also since it is way too raw game. If SV would have just made small sandbox with lots of toys it might have worked.
Nice review, thanks
I win!!! LOL@U
Don't let the fans hear you talking about an in-game chat. They want it hardcore, no map, no compass, no chat, no nothing, just featureless. If you want, they have an out-of-game IRC channel they have been advertising as the "official trade channel" (pretty unprofessional I know, but they don't want it in the game so SV made it outside the game that makes you install 3rd party software just to run! Love hardcore games!!)
www.mortalonline.com/forums/29902-mortal-online-trade-channel-irc.html
There isn't enough stuff to do as they are still trying to fix the lag in the game, and the more content that is in it (reason why they made houses more expensive) is because it will cause the game to lag more and more.
Today I actually experienced all time low when I went wandering and dropped thru world in water. After that I couldn't get back to priest even with stuck so I used recall to nearest shrine. After talking to priest and coming alive I had absolutly no clue where the hell I was, so I started just moving one way. Big mistake since it turned out to be quite deadend. On that trip I experienced pure boredom that I have never experienced on any other MMO. There was no one to talk since no chat, there was no quick recall, there was no mobs to kiil, the view had bored to death long ago, I couldn't alt+tab since I had to turn sometimes, it was pure boredom for almost 15mins. I have nothing against hardcore games as long as they are hard, but making everything just painfully diffucult to do isn't hard. One of best games are hard, but still very enjoyable to play.
The Beta shows me that the game is not ready and wont be for at least another year. I understand that the company will need funding and there are lots of people who love paying to play betas but I will not. I really want to love this game and I think it will become great one day if it can hang in there. I am going to wait a year before I play just like I should have done with Darkfall. Darkfall was terrible when it first launched and now it is my favorite game to date, hands down.
Partly agree. Graphics aren't awesome. If you look far it looks very good(sky), at close it looks nice(trees, plats and animals) and hideous on icons(seriously is this 90's???). Problem also is that everything feels really static. Sure there is farms, buildings and stuff but they don't have any animation or anything. Also fauna and flora feels scattered, there is no real themes on places, everthing is just planted around to fill empty space. Also things are overly big, making everything feel even more scattered. Animation is horrible on those part that it exists, which isn't much. All UI elements look like coming from 90's Linux desktop. Also the color palet is very brown and dirty, this makes everything lot darker and uglier. Usage of brighter colors and counter colors would make it much prettier yet realistic.
Huge problem is also communication. Sometimes running around you feel like playing single game. Atleast some sort of chat would be needed. Also OB community seems to have lot of mute players, nobody answers anything when you talk to them, suddenly you find yourself missing even Barrens chat.
Bugs, lag,dsync issues are just tip of iceberg. There isn't enough stuff, they build huge sandbox but there isn't enough to do. Most of the time I feel like being wood puppet, there isn't natural moving and having to switch mousemode and back is pain. There is so many design fails that they will back bite somepoint.
I give 2/10 also since it is way too raw game. If SV would have just made small sandbox with lots of toys it might have worked.
Many of us suggested your last line many, many times to SV. And they kept throwing broken feature after broken feature into the game.
I think at this point it's a lost cause, but the train wreck will be exciting.
So far i haven't found anything even remotely interesting or appealing to do inside this game. It's a mess of needlesly complicated skill-system.
But the worst thing is the visual style. It feels like being in a dirty stone-age world, i never ever feel like getting in.
As much as i love simulations, i find this game extremely repulsive. I'm sorry. If they want me to endure understanding the working of all those knowledge sub-skills, at least give me some comfort and joy of controlling my character. the FPS camera, the controls, and the lurid looks of primitive SODOMA/GREEKISH towns are simply too ugly to draw me in.
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