Originally posted by patrikd23 Originally posted by oscarkool2 Hey everyone, Ok so about 20 minutes ago, the company behind Darkfall is now offering a 7-day trial for new players for only $1. Click Here to go to the Darkfall website. This is your chance to see what the game is all about and it really won't be costing you guys anything. If you are MMO hopping as I was a few weeks ago, I recommend you give Darkfall a try. I am really enjoying it so far because it is much different than anything else out there that I have tried. Some tips I have for new players is to bank your loot often. When starting out, don't hold on to more than 100 gold without banking. And save your Arrows as well, unless you are skilling up your archery in the beginning. And prepare to be addicted Also, I recommend that you play with headphones. Sound is VERY important in this game because you gotta keep your ears open for approaching PKers. If you listen well, you should be able to avoid gankers no problem. The only downside I have to the game so far is that it can take quite awhile to skill up to catch up to people that have been playing for awhile. But this is no different than any other MMO. Hope to see you all in game, I am on my 3rd week and having a blast. Let me know if you have any questions about the game, I haven't been playing that long but I'll do what I can to help new players out
Haha to even charge for a trial? Then its not a trial. And I dont care about the money I can buy 10 copies just for the sake of it. But now when I see how greedy they are about it I will NEVER .. EVER.. play Darkfall or give them 1 cent. Thanks for the info ! Greedy? They are protecting their current player base from gold farmers and hackers. From that 1$ they most likely see like 30 cents on their account. They are not doing it for cash but to be able to blacklist all cards connected with illegal activities. That's that simple! Hope you understand now. If not, get someone to explain it to you.
It's not the dollar that makes me not want to trial this game to be honest.it's the immature nature of the player base shown in threads like this on this and other sites.It's up there with the Cryptic games player base IMO.
I cannot believe the amount of people here posting that this is a money grab. You guys cannot be serious. This is to force a valid credit card, not scam people out of a dollar. As someone else mentioned, the credit card processing fees take up almost all of that dollar. The majority of posts in this thread reek of ignorance. Prax
In todays world "ignorance is bliss" since there is no point explaining to an ant how a tv works.
But thanks for clearing it up, just wish the OP would in his first post, or maybe I must have missed it.
Reminder to self "Dont post when tierd, angry and hungry".
It's not the dollar that makes me not want to trial this game to be honest.it's the immature nature of the player base shown in threads like this on this and other sites.It's up there with the Cryptic games player base IMO.
Ok so about 20 minutes ago, the company behind Darkfall is now offering a 7-day trial for new players for only $1.
Click Here to go to the Darkfall website.
This is your chance to see what the game is all about and it really won't be costing you guys anything.
If you are MMO hopping as I was a few weeks ago, I recommend you give Darkfall a try. I am really enjoying it so far because it is much different than anything else out there that I have tried.
Some tips I have for new players is to bank your loot often. When starting out, don't hold on to more than 100 gold without banking. And save your Arrows as well, unless you are skilling up your archery in the beginning. And prepare to be addicted
Also, I recommend that you play with headphones. Sound is VERY important in this game because you gotta keep your ears open for approaching PKers. If you listen well, you should be able to avoid gankers no problem.
The only downside I have to the game so far is that it can take quite awhile to skill up to catch up to people that have been playing for awhile. But this is no different than any other MMO.
Hope to see you all in game, I am on my 3rd week and having a blast.
Let me know if you have any questions about the game, I haven't been playing that long but I'll do what I can to help new players out
Haha to even charge for a trial? Then its not a trial. And I dont care about the money I can buy 10 copies just for the sake of it.
But now when I see how greedy they are about it I will NEVER .. EVER.. play Darkfall or give them 1 cent.
Thanks for the info !
Greedy? They are protecting their current player base from gold farmers and hackers. From that 1$ they most likely see like 30 cents on their account. They are not doing it for cash but to be able to blacklist all cards connected with illegal activities. That's that simple! Hope you understand now. If not, get someone to explain it to you.
Tierd, angry and hungry = no posting for me. (in the future ) hehe. Thanks for clairifying for tierd man.
It's not the dollar that makes me not want to trial this game to be honest.it's the immature nature of the player base shown in threads like this on this and other sites.It's up there with the Cryptic games player base IMO.
I get a kick out of posts like this. There is a marketing strategy called product identity that has now been expanded to Company identity. Its really brilliant and usually young people fall into it in mass.
The idea is to get consumers focused on the company and not the product. So then you are loyal to the brand and not the product. A clear give away that someone has fallen for this strategy is when they mention something like you just have. U didn’t mention the maturity of players on X game board. You mentioned the company rather than the game.
Speaking for myself the company that makes the game is usually the last thing I learn almost always after I have already bought the game and played it.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
"Darkfall is about to have its first birthday and to celebrate we’ve decided to offer a Darkfall trial.
You can now try Darkfall for a week for a symbolic price: 1Euro (EU servers) or $1 (NA Servers). After the seven days are up, users need to purchase the Darkfall client in order to continue.
We recommend that you download the Darkfall Client before purchasing the Darkfall trial to maximize your playing time.
Following are links where you can create an account, download Darkfall and get the Darkfall Trial:
We’ve done quite a bit of work to prepare for this trial. We’ve made several updates to improve the new player experience, for example by adding Newbie Protection, and have taken measures so that the trial doesn’t become disruptive for current subscribers. We’ve chosen to include symbolic pricing as a minimum commitment, to protect the existing user-base experience. We’ve also taken major steps to further improving our cheat detection and GM tools. We have a no-tolerance policy to exploiting and cheating and we will be strictly enforcing our policies as always.
Community Publishers promoting the trial will earn their publisher fee as usual whenever a trial account is upgraded to a full account.
It's not the dollar that makes me not want to trial this game to be honest.it's the immature nature of the player base shown in threads like this on this and other sites.It's up there with the Cryptic games player base IMO.
Yes ....... but in Darkfall you can kill them.
~Hairysun
Heh if I want to kill obnoxious,immature,anonymous people I cna do so all day long in TF2,CS or L4D for free on an even playing field.
It's not the dollar that makes me not want to trial this game to be honest.it's the immature nature of the player base shown in threads like this on this and other sites.It's up there with the Cryptic games player base IMO.
Yes ....... but in Darkfall you can kill them.
~Hairysun
Heh if I want to kill obnoxious,immature,anonymous people I cna do so all day long in TF2,CS or L4D for free on an even playing field.
You do realize your at M M O R P G .com , right? I could go into the actual meaning of the letters, but , I'm giving some credit here .....
Originally posted by Rockgod99 Originally posted by Draemos Originally posted by Rockgod99 Why charge 1 dollar? to keep gold spammers away? Doesn't make much sense. I usually run a trial five or six times with multiple races and playstyles before i decide on the account i will play. I would hate to pay for each trial attempt.
It makes perfect sense. Just because you abuse trial systems doesn't change anything.
How am i abusing anything? In a sandbox you can play a game multiple ways with the option to only have one character wouldn't it make sense to test everything at least a little before committing to a game purchase? Explain how charging for a trial makes any sense at all?
Originally posted by Loke666 Originally posted by daarco OK, it cost 1 buck and you need a credit card! C´mon, it is 2010. Soon will people complain you need internet as well : ) Im more interested how the newbie protection will work.
1 buck is almost nothing, that is true. But it still would be better to have it for free and just put out the download on torrent instead, the chances of getting more people to try it would be larger then instead of having them to pay a symbolic sum for the bandwidth.
And 1 buck is almost nothing so they really might as well charge nothing, even if they hook in just a few players more they would earn money on it, a single new MMO player will pull in a lot of money in the long run. As for the credit card it is not an uncommon or even hard requirement even though they might get a few extra players in if they had an alternative payment method, like a bank to bank transfer, paypal or western union. More players is better and some countries still mostly use cash. Not a big deal either but a few more possibly players extra might be worth the work, it is something Avi will have to decide themselves. I don't see any gamecards for DF coming out soon, it just isn't large enough to justify that. Only companies like Blizzard, NC soft and SOE are large enough to actually make money from gamecards. Half sized companies sometimes makes them as a service to the customers (like Funcom) but small indie companies really should use their cash better.
are you serious? charging people to just try out your product? that's highway robbery i hope darkfall goes in the gutter soon
There's a reason you have 0 stars.
And there's a reason why you have gay tattoos.
Nothing against gays, just saying..
Because you've clearly seen all of them, nor have any context to put them under. My tattoo's are what I like and what is special to me. The rating system is what the community thinks of the poster. Maybe if my tattoo's were a factor of bad postings, then you might have something to say. But that was a poor attempt at trolling. Good try. You're gonna need thicker skin if you play DF.
I posted this up on Massively and I figured I would post it here also to open some discussion on why I think Darkfall charges $1 for there trial as opposed to offering it up for free.
Lets take a few things into account here. One Darkfall is a FFA PvP game. You can attack anyone at anytime without much repercussions (aka there are no true safe zones within the game - the I believe the latest patch offers up some new player style of protection - not for sure haven't played in two-three months) Two Darkfall revolves around a deep community based meta game of spying, seigeing, and community. (Eve Online has a very similar system in Low Sec space. Only thing is Darkfall doesn't exactly have a Low Sec area.. All of Darkfall is considered Low Sec) Three there are known hacks that work within Darkfall that are constently being worked on to get plugged. Now with that said theres real issues with offering a true free trial for Darkfall without putting some type of limitations on the trial. (In the current case there are no limits to a trial account. Your free to do everything a full darkfall player can do.) First issue I for see is keeping people from making dozens of alts to flood the starter cities and killing any player attempting to try out the game. This is a real issue because every people game is flooded with people that make it there pure goal to gank and ruin other peoples enjoyment. Heck you see this in Mortal Online right now in the open beta. With trial accounts being free there is nothing to keep someone from making dozens of accounts or heck even small guilds that live off ruining others fun making a bunch of accounts just to zerg the starter citys and kill everyone and everything. Second issue being economy based. Making alt characters to just farm the starter zone camps to sell the items for silver / gold endlessly. This alone would completely ruin the economy that has built up within Darkfall and it would open a huge door saying come on in farmers.. we want you! Third using the free trial accounts as a means to spy on your enemys without any repercussions. Whats to keep a guild from rolling up a bunch of trial accounts to just create characters to stand outside your enemys city and attack the guild anytime they leave there city? Yes a new player wont put up too much effort ageanst an established player but a group of new players can easly take down an established player or two. Numbers do make a big difference. Forth the real issue of hacking. There are known hacks for Darkfall. Heck there are hacks for every game out there. Within Darkfall the GM's have clamped down on the hacking alot by banning accounts of hackers and people / guilds using hacks. A free trial account system would just open the door for anyone and everything to grab a hack and ruin the game. Yes the idea situation would be for them to fix the hacks. And thats something they have been endlessly working on but its a real ongoing issue non the less. Fith land based pvp control. Whats to keep a guild from rolling up a guild of free trial alts to run around and capture the farms, mini towns, ect.? The entire system would be crazy and I am sure there are people and guilds that would make it there entire purposes to do just this endlessly without effort so that other paying guilds, players, ect can not control said farm, mini city, ect. (There are timers that control how often a city can be attacked / defended.) Sixth being the extra costs of allowing free people on the server. GM's will have more load put open them. Bandwidth charges for people downloading the client + patchs and the extra load put open the server. All of these are things that directly effect the current Paying Subscription Customer base of the game. Subscription players now have to wait twice a long for answers due to trial accounts also flooding the system with questions, issues, harssment, ect. Ageain I am not fan of Darkfall. It's a interesting game and deserves its place alongside Eve Online and other games that are trying to find there nich place among MMO players. With that said its been several months since I last played Darkfall and things might have changed alot since then. Maybe there are mechanics in place to prevent some of the above from happening. But the only real thing I could see would be putting restrictions on trial accounts. No Looting / Trading, No PvP Allowed, Can not Capture Cities / Ect. But if they did that then you would be missing out on the entire game. Because that is what Darkfall is based around.
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Haha to even charge for a trial? Then its not a trial. And I dont care about the money I can buy 10 copies just for the sake of it.
But now when I see how greedy they are about it I will NEVER .. EVER.. play Darkfall or give them 1 cent.
Thanks for the info !
Greedy? They are protecting their current player base from gold farmers and hackers. From that 1$ they most likely see like 30 cents on their account. They are not doing it for cash but to be able to blacklist all cards connected with illegal activities. That's that simple! Hope you understand now. If not, get someone to explain it to you.
It's not the dollar that makes me not want to trial this game to be honest.it's the immature nature of the player base shown in threads like this on this and other sites.It's up there with the Cryptic games player base IMO.
ah, they finally have a trial!...better late than never.
also i don't think a $1 trial is all that bad, it is a small company after all.
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
In todays world "ignorance is bliss" since there is no point explaining to an ant how a tv works.
But thanks for clearing it up, just wish the OP would in his first post, or maybe I must have missed it.
Reminder to self "Dont post when tierd, angry and hungry".
The trial took long enough tho.
May I remind you that subsribers pay how much, around 15 euros a month for the game when you get to play unrestricted for 1 euro an entire week?
This isn't a free trial, they should have called it a bargain trial
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
Yes ....... but in Darkfall you can kill them.
~Hairysun
http://www.straightdope.com/
Haha to even charge for a trial? Then its not a trial. And I dont care about the money I can buy 10 copies just for the sake of it.
But now when I see how greedy they are about it I will NEVER .. EVER.. play Darkfall or give them 1 cent.
Thanks for the info !
Greedy? They are protecting their current player base from gold farmers and hackers. From that 1$ they most likely see like 30 cents on their account. They are not doing it for cash but to be able to blacklist all cards connected with illegal activities. That's that simple! Hope you understand now. If not, get someone to explain it to you.
Tierd, angry and hungry = no posting for me. (in the future ) hehe. Thanks for clairifying for tierd man.
I get a kick out of posts like this. There is a marketing strategy called product identity that has now been expanded to Company identity. Its really brilliant and usually young people fall into it in mass.
The idea is to get consumers focused on the company and not the product. So then you are loyal to the brand and not the product. A clear give away that someone has fallen for this strategy is when they mention something like you just have. U didn’t mention the maturity of players on X game board. You mentioned the company rather than the game.
Speaking for myself the company that makes the game is usually the last thing I learn almost always after I have already bought the game and played it.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
From forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
"Darkfall is about to have its first birthday and to celebrate we’ve decided to offer a Darkfall trial.
You can now try Darkfall for a week for a symbolic price: 1Euro (EU servers) or $1 (NA Servers). After the seven days are up, users need to purchase the Darkfall client in order to continue.
We recommend that you download the Darkfall Client before purchasing the Darkfall trial to maximize your playing time.
Following are links where you can create an account, download Darkfall and get the Darkfall Trial:
North American Servers:
North American Server Account Management
Darkfall NA Download Link
European Servers:
European Server Account Management
Darkfall EU Download Link
We’ve done quite a bit of work to prepare for this trial. We’ve made several updates to improve the new player experience, for example by adding Newbie Protection, and have taken measures so that the trial doesn’t become disruptive for current subscribers. We’ve chosen to include symbolic pricing as a minimum commitment, to protect the existing user-base experience. We’ve also taken major steps to further improving our cheat detection and GM tools. We have a no-tolerance policy to exploiting and cheating and we will be strictly enforcing our policies as always.
Community Publishers promoting the trial will earn their publisher fee as usual whenever a trial account is upgraded to a full account.
We hope that you enjoy checking out Darkfall."
EDIT: Added links, because I'm such a nice guy.
Prax
Now we only need the elite darkfall players from mmorpg.com/ present their avatars in this thread...if they dare (hehehe)
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Yes ....... but in Darkfall you can kill them.
~Hairysun
Heh if I want to kill obnoxious,immature,anonymous people I cna do so all day long in TF2,CS or L4D for free on an even playing field.
Yes ....... but in Darkfall you can kill them.
~Hairysun
Heh if I want to kill obnoxious,immature,anonymous people I cna do so all day long in TF2,CS or L4D for free on an even playing field.
You do realize your at M M O R P G .com , right? I could go into the actual meaning of the letters, but , I'm giving some credit here .....
~Hairysun
http://www.straightdope.com/
here is a direct download link
http://www.us1.darkfallonline.com/dl/DarkfallUS.exe
you are on the internetz. think about the eu players.
I7@4ghz, 5970@ 1 ghz/5ghz, water cooled||Former setups Byggblogg||Byggblogg 2|| Msi Wind u100
It makes perfect sense. Just because you abuse trial systems doesn't change anything.
How am i abusing anything? In a sandbox you can play a game multiple ways with the option to only have one character wouldn't it make sense to test everything at least a little before committing to a game purchase?
Explain how charging for a trial makes any sense at all?
Agree!
There's a reason you have 0 stars.
And there's a reason why you have gay tattoos.
Nothing against gays, just saying..
And 1 buck is almost nothing so they really might as well charge nothing, even if they hook in just a few players more they would earn money on it, a single new MMO player will pull in a lot of money in the long run.
As for the credit card it is not an uncommon or even hard requirement even though they might get a few extra players in if they had an alternative payment method, like a bank to bank transfer, paypal or western union. More players is better and some countries still mostly use cash. Not a big deal either but a few more possibly players extra might be worth the work, it is something Avi will have to decide themselves.
I don't see any gamecards for DF coming out soon, it just isn't large enough to justify that. Only companies like Blizzard, NC soft and SOE are large enough to actually make money from gamecards. Half sized companies sometimes makes them as a service to the customers (like Funcom) but small indie companies really should use their cash better.
Agree
Everyone bitching about $1.00 are simply afraid to ask mommy for the credit card AGAIN
Finaly !!!!
to bad i'm still on work -.- darn...
oh happy day's though, its going to be a long long night ^^
Dark_Elf
There's a reason you have 0 stars.
And there's a reason why you have gay tattoos.
Nothing against gays, just saying..
There is a reason why Darkfall has 1$/€ fee. To keep jerks like Golomin away from it.
Nothing against (s)he, just saying.
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Sure it will, it's a BIG client
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
There's a reason you have 0 stars.
And there's a reason why you have gay tattoos.
Nothing against gays, just saying..
Because you've clearly seen all of them, nor have any context to put them under. My tattoo's are what I like and what is special to me. The rating system is what the community thinks of the poster. Maybe if my tattoo's were a factor of bad postings, then you might have something to say. But that was a poor attempt at trolling. Good try. You're gonna need thicker skin if you play DF.
People who live in the EU, do you have to pay VAT on the dollar trial?
That made me laugh
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
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