After finally watching and reading up on GW2, I can easily say I am definitely more hyped for that than SWTOR.
Mainly because the devs and publishers for GW2 just do a great job of really explaining their goals and their mechanics and what they want to do to kick the genre in the teeth and than send it to a plastic surgeon.
SWTOR, from what I've seen, says, well, you have hide behind shit. And the characters have VO. Woooo.
GW2 seems to be shooting to tip the genre on it's head and give it a good hard thrust a few times.
Sounds like just what the doctor ordered.
Of course, I'm going to try both of them.
Keeping my fingers crossed for both of them, too.
I really don't get the hype behind Gw2, its a B2P game, Dynamic events don't effect the world permanently, dynamic events are scaled so even one player can do it, and a caveman can level in that game.
GW2 is looking a lot like an easy version of WoW. And thats why my hype has fallen for it. Its beggining to look to easy.
I'm not a big fan of single player MMO's. So GW2 for me. SWTOR sounds like a great single player story game, and NOTHING more. Nothing innovative What So Ever besides voiceovers.
TBH I'm more excited for the MMO's over the horizon like Planetside NEXT, and Everquest NEXT.
Group dialogue has never been done in a game let alone an MMO.
After finally watching and reading up on GW2, I can easily say I am definitely more hyped for that than SWTOR.
Mainly because the devs and publishers for GW2 just do a great job of really explaining their goals and their mechanics and what they want to do to kick the genre in the teeth and than send it to a plastic surgeon.
SWTOR, from what I've seen, says, well, you have hide behind shit. And the characters have VO. Woooo.
GW2 seems to be shooting to tip the genre on it's head and give it a good hard thrust a few times.
Sounds like just what the doctor ordered.
Of course, I'm going to try both of them.
Keeping my fingers crossed for both of them, too.
I really don't get the hype behind Gw2, its a B2P game, Dynamic events don't effect the world permanently, dynamic events are scaled so even one player can do it, and a caveman can level in that game.
GW2 is looking a lot like an easy version of WoW. And thats why my hype has fallen for it. Its beggining to look to easy.
Why do you have a GW2 avatar and talk like you don't know anything about the game? You seriously need to change that avatar, it makes you look very much like a troll....
After finally watching and reading up on GW2, I can easily say I am definitely more hyped for that than SWTOR.
Mainly because the devs and publishers for GW2 just do a great job of really explaining their goals and their mechanics and what they want to do to kick the genre in the teeth and than send it to a plastic surgeon.
SWTOR, from what I've seen, says, well, you have hide behind shit. And the characters have VO. Woooo.
GW2 seems to be shooting to tip the genre on it's head and give it a good hard thrust a few times.
Sounds like just what the doctor ordered.
Of course, I'm going to try both of them.
Keeping my fingers crossed for both of them, too.
I really don't get the hype behind Gw2, its a B2P game, Dynamic events don't effect the world permanently, dynamic events are scaled so even one player can do it, and a caveman can level in that game.
GW2 is looking a lot like an easy version of WoW. And thats why my hype has fallen for it. Its beggining to look to easy.
Why do you have a GW2 avatar and talk like you don't know anything about the game? You seriously need to change that avatar, it makes you look very much like a troll....
Just for the Lol'z Bioware should announce that SWtor will be free to B2P.
Lol I and many could care less. The sub fee isn't the reason I prefer gw2 to swtor. Besides rofl at the mere concept of EA doing that. That's really hilarious.
Just for the Lol'z Bioware should announce that SWtor will be free to B2P.
Lol I and many could care less. The sub fee isn't the reason I prefer gw2 to swtor. Besides rofl at the mere concept of EA doing that. That's really hilarious.
No not really lol, If you look at Guild War one in terms of people actually playing now then by all means its one big flop. There was a poll on GW2Guru, that asked if you would still play the game had it been P2P and a pretty good amount said no. The fact that guild wars 2 will be B2P is one of the few reason I plan on buying it like many others.
Alright. After finally watching and reading up on GW2, I can easily say I am definitely more hyped for that than SWTOR. Mainly because the devs and publishers for GW2 just do a great job of really explaining their goals and their mechanics and what they want to do to kick the genre in the teeth and than send it to a plastic surgeon. SWTOR, from what I've seen, says, well, you have hide behind shit. And the characters have VO. Woooo. GW2 seems to be shooting to tip the genre on it's head and give it a good hard thrust a few times. Sounds like just what the doctor ordered. Of course, I'm going to try both of them. Keeping my fingers crossed for both of them, too.
I really don't get the hype behind Gw2, its a B2P game, Dynamic events don't effect the world permanently, dynamic events are scaled so even one player can do it, and a caveman can level in that game.
GW2 is looking a lot like an easy version of WoW. And thats why my hype has fallen for it. Its beggining to look to easy.
Why do you have a GW2 avatar and talk like you don't know anything about the game? You seriously need to change that avatar, it makes you look very much like a troll....
After finally watching and reading up on GW2, I can easily say I am definitely more hyped for that than SWTOR.
Mainly because the devs and publishers for GW2 just do a great job of really explaining their goals and their mechanics and what they want to do to kick the genre in the teeth and than send it to a plastic surgeon.
SWTOR, from what I've seen, says, well, you have hide behind shit. And the characters have VO. Woooo.
GW2 seems to be shooting to tip the genre on it's head and give it a good hard thrust a few times.
Sounds like just what the doctor ordered.
Of course, I'm going to try both of them.
Keeping my fingers crossed for both of them, too.
I really don't get the hype behind Gw2, its a B2P game, Dynamic events don't effect the world permanently, dynamic events are scaled so even one player can do it, and a caveman can level in that game.
GW2 is looking a lot like an easy version of WoW. And thats why my hype has fallen for it. Its beggining to look to easy.
Why do you have a GW2 avatar and talk like you don't know anything about the game? You seriously need to change that avatar, it makes you look very much like a troll....
And you're looking like a fanboi, I read that crap its nothing new to me.
All I'm saying is, stop talking till you can say with confidence that the game is so easy a caveman can hit max lvl.
Let me rephrase, You reach end game in a faction of the time. That is not a good thing for me. The more I read up on Guild Wars 2 the more I am thinking that its going to cater to Solo-Casual players.
And seriously if I hear one more GW2 fan tell me to read up on shit I am going to go insane. I read up on about 70% of all the GW2 crap, Hell I plan on playing A charr warrior for fu#ks sakes. Just because I like Star Wars does not mean I hate Guild Wars.
GW2 will be my new runescape, and by that I mean something to keep me occupied when my SWTOR sub runs out.
Just for the Lol'z Bioware should announce that SWtor will be free to B2P.
Lol I and many could care less. The sub fee isn't the reason I prefer gw2 to swtor. Besides rofl at the mere concept of EA doing that. That's really hilarious.
No not really lol, If you look at Guild War one in terms of people actually playing now then by all means its one big flop. There was a poll on GW2Guru, that asked if you would still play the game had it been P2P and a pretty good amount said no. The fact that guild wars 2 will be B2P is one of the few reason I plan on buying it like many others.
The mere fact you even said that shows how little you understood about the game. The game was design from it's very core to provide the player with short bursts of entertainment for which the player will take regular breaks from. The game even told to take a break after 3 hours of play. It was NEVER meant to hold people consistantly in the long term that's how it was orignally designed. All grind was optional and provided little to no in game advantages. The only thing that was supposed to keep people in the long term was competitive pvp play, if you didn't enjoy that you would complete the campaign content and then stop playing. The fact that they stop releasing campaigns also contribute to why there isn't as much playing but there still is a fairly large amount.
GW2 despite continuing the optional grind philosophy won't be like that at all. It's heavily PvE focused this time with plenty of activities to do long after completing the personal story and much of it can be played for long periods of time should the player choose to do that.
Sorry If I misreaded the sw:tor clone part, but believe me I already saw someone saying the same thing about stealing and stuff...
As someone said, SW:TOR got announced in 2008
Even tho if you look close, you will see that the manner you change the history and environment in both games is different.
In TOR you make choices in the story which will be reflected in the future...ok
In GW2 you make acts that will change the environment temporary...ok
See the difference, of course im not looking at all details but still my point is clear.
Anyway I dont see a reason to a grudge between GW2 and SW:TOR the manner this thread is making. Heck GW2 will be b2p so you can actually play both while only paying one.
Both got a lot of potential and somewhat got different features toward differend player personalities.
You only need to see what you will like more
The thing is in SW TOR u affect your surroundings also well perhaps in another way but apart from it about GW2 there hasnt been said to much just about the classes and the latest video where they mentioned about the nvirement.
But like somoen before said GW 2 i b2p which is awsome from this side and i will play it also just wanna get out of the WoW era >.< and move forward towards new bright juicy mmo future thats why im a bit overreacting a bit sry .
This whole waiting for an good mmo that never comes an dbe going back to WoW over and over again makes me sick <.<
Ummmm... Just FYI, there have been several articles covering quite a bit of info about the Dynamic Event System and how it will impact the world around it, theyve been talking about it for months.
I'm sorry knapu, but you're the one that is missing info about GW2. I dont know much about SWTOR lately (lost interest some months ago), but one thing im sure: GW2 has much more innovation in material and ideas than any other game i saw for years, and SWTOR is not that close (although i might say that they have a lot of new things too). When I heard about this 2 games I followed the infos and I understand your confusion.
From what i understood some time ago, yes, SWTOR affect your surroundings, but only because of your actions in storyline, so it's not something all the other players can share with you (maybe someone in your party or something simillar). Can you give me a link of info about this feature of SW TOR???
GW2 affects surroundings in the world, giving players the choice to act or not in it, wether they are on the same team or not. And there's more: your character personality and reputation changes because of your actions; there really exist an invasion of mobs to the cities, destroying everything and even the city NPCs, instead of seeing them walk around waiting for us to appear; if you destroy a city or save it, any other player that comes across that place will know your name and what you did; there's a lot more in this dinamic events system from GW2 than you think, and this is all outside the personal story. how the hell can they copy/past that from SW TOR???
Here is vid that explains alot about SWTOR its from comicon
Obviously SWTOR, you cannot fail with a developer like bioware, and even though they have no experience in mmos. Look at blizzard pre-wow
Yes, SWTOR will be really good and likely out before GW2, so think many that want to play GW2 will also check out TOR.
@ Snaylor ""And seriously if I hear one more GW2 fan tell me to read up on shit I am going to go insane. I read up on about 70% of all the GW2 crap, Hell I plan on playing A charr warrior for fu#ks sakes. Just because I like Star Wars does not mean I hate Guild Wars.""
Seriously, you could read up more on GW2, apparently "end-game" will have a "twist". Joking aside, I do share your concern that possibly the casualness could backfire. But I hope for the contrary, that it circumvents the usual mmo out-of-game problems of player partition such as levels/grind/gear/end-game/grouping that work against game-play and the flexibility actually comes through. It does make me wonder in what sense GW2 is looking to be challenging however? Combat? I hope so.
Just for the Lol'z Bioware should announce that SWtor will be free to B2P.
Lol I and many could care less. The sub fee isn't the reason I prefer gw2 to swtor. Besides rofl at the mere concept of EA doing that. That's really hilarious.
No not really lol, If you look at Guild War one in terms of people actually playing now then by all means its one big flop. There was a poll on GW2Guru, that asked if you would still play the game had it been P2P and a pretty good amount said no. The fact that guild wars 2 will be B2P is one of the few reason I plan on buying it like many others.
The mere fact you even said that shows how little you understood about the game. The game was design from it's very core to provide the player with short bursts of entertainment for which the player will take regular breaks from. The game even told to take a break after 3 hours of play. It was NEVER meant to hold people consistantly in the long term that's how it was orignally designed. All grind was optional and provided little to no in game advantages. The only thing that was supposed to keep people in the long term was competitive pvp play, if you didn't enjoy that you would complete the campaign content and then stop playing. The fact that they stop releasing campaigns also contribute to why there isn't as much playing but there still is a fairly large amount.
GW2 despite continuing the optional grind philosophy won't be like that at all. It's heavily PvE focused this time with plenty of activities to do long after completing the personal story and much of it can be played for long periods of time should the player choose to do that.
Thats what they said about GW1, and they didn't start saying "Yeah GW1 was never a real mmo." Till they announced GW2. I am sure GW2 will be a fun game, I ll find that out and reach my own decision when I play the game. But I like the EQ style game play and not GWs style, I think what GW2 Fans need to understand is that people LOVE tanking and healing and nothing is going to change that, I know that you don't like the Tank/DPS/Healer gameplay and I am fine with that, more power to ya, but what I hate is that your saying its a bad thing when its not, it never was, and never will be, its more like a genre stable and it will be around long after both SWTOR and GW2.
You keep wondering why people have no interest in GW2, yet think SWTOR will rock, its freakin star wars, bioware and an MMO your average joe does not care about innovation, your Xbox 360 player won't care. The majority of people whinning about innovation seem to be the hardcore MMO players and guess what they are a minority.
Just for the Lol'z Bioware should announce that SWtor will be free to B2P.
Lol I and many could care less. The sub fee isn't the reason I prefer gw2 to swtor. Besides rofl at the mere concept of EA doing that. That's really hilarious.
No not really lol, If you look at Guild War one in terms of people actually playing now then by all means its one big flop. There was a poll on GW2Guru, that asked if you would still play the game had it been P2P and a pretty good amount said no. The fact that guild wars 2 will be B2P is one of the few reason I plan on buying it like many others.
The mere fact you even said that shows how little you understood about the game. The game was design from it's very core to provide the player with short bursts of entertainment for which the player will take regular breaks from. The game even told to take a break after 3 hours of play. It was NEVER meant to hold people consistantly in the long term that's how it was orignally designed. All grind was optional and provided little to no in game advantages. The only thing that was supposed to keep people in the long term was competitive pvp play, if you didn't enjoy that you would complete the campaign content and then stop playing. The fact that they stop releasing campaigns also contribute to why there isn't as much playing but there still is a fairly large amount.
GW2 despite continuing the optional grind philosophy won't be like that at all. It's heavily PvE focused this time with plenty of activities to do long after completing the personal story and much of it can be played for long periods of time should the player choose to do that.
Thats what they said about GW1, and they didn't start saying "Yeah GW1 was never a real mmo." Till they announced GW2. I am sure GW2 will be a fun game, I ll find that out and reach my own decision when I play the game. But I like the EQ style game play and not GWs style, I think what GW2 Fans need to understand is that people LOVE tanking and healing and nothing is going to change that, I know that you don't like the Tank/DPS/Healer gameplay and I am fine with that, more power to ya, but what I hate is that your saying its a bad thing when its not, it never was, and never will be, its more like a genre stable and it will be around long after both SWTOR and GW2.
You keep wondering why people have no interest in GW2, yet think SWTOR will rock, its freakin star wars, bioware and an MMO your average joe does not care about innovation, your Xbox 360 player won't care. The majority of people whinning about innovation seem to be the hardcore MMO players and guess what they are a minority.
/end rant
It's your right to prefer EQ play over gw. I just personal care more for gameplay features and design concepts rather than what IP it is and whose making it, as we've been burnt by that too many times now.
Thats what they said about GW1, and they didn't start saying "Yeah GW1 was never a real mmo." Till they announced GW2. I am sure GW2 will be a fun game, I ll find that out and reach my own decision when I play the game. But I like the EQ style game play and not GWs style, I think what GW2 Fans need to understand is that people LOVE tanking and healing and nothing is going to change that, I know that you don't like the Tank/DPS/Healer gameplay and I am fine with that, more power to ya, but what I hate is that your saying its a bad thing when its not, it never was, and never will be, its more like a genre stable and it will be around long after both SWTOR and GW2.
You keep wondering why people have no interest in GW2, yet think SWTOR will rock, its freakin star wars, bioware and an MMO your average joe does not care about innovation, your Xbox 360 player won't care. The majority of people whinning about innovation seem to be the hardcore MMO players and guess what they are a minority.
GW2 hands down. SWTOR looks like a pig steaming pile of shit imo. Prolly gonna be dumbed down so much for all the wow kiddies and star wars fans who suck at games.
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I really don't get the hype behind Gw2, its a B2P game, Dynamic events don't effect the world permanently, dynamic events are scaled so even one player can do it, and a caveman can level in that game.
GW2 is looking a lot like an easy version of WoW. And thats why my hype has fallen for it. Its beggining to look to easy.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
Group dialogue has never been done in a game let alone an MMO.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
Why do you have a GW2 avatar and talk like you don't know anything about the game? You seriously need to change that avatar, it makes you look very much like a troll....
Go do some reading....
or do less talking....
This is not a game.
And you're looking like a fanboi, I read that crap its nothing new to me.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
I'm just saying the publishers and devs for GW2 are doing a better job hyping their game.
Whenever I watched a video or read an article on SWTOR I was genuinely bored.
The topic at hand is which game are you more hyped for.
Ta-da.
http://www.facebook.com/GuildWars2?ref=ts
http://www.facebook.com/starwarstheoldrepublic?v=wall&ref=ts
I think this is a better hype meter.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
Guild Wars
Just for the Lol'z Bioware should announce that SWtor will be free to B2P.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
Lol I and many could care less. The sub fee isn't the reason I prefer gw2 to swtor. Besides rofl at the mere concept of EA doing that. That's really hilarious.
No not really lol, If you look at Guild War one in terms of people actually playing now then by all means its one big flop. There was a poll on GW2Guru, that asked if you would still play the game had it been P2P and a pretty good amount said no. The fact that guild wars 2 will be B2P is one of the few reason I plan on buying it like many others.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
I really don't get the hype behind Gw2, its a B2P game, Dynamic events don't effect the world permanently, dynamic events are scaled so even one player can do it, and a caveman can level in that game.
GW2 is looking a lot like an easy version of WoW. And thats why my hype has fallen for it. Its beggining to look to easy.
Why do you have a GW2 avatar and talk like you don't know anything about the game? You seriously need to change that avatar, it makes you look very much like a troll....
Go do some reading....
or do less talking....
And you're looking like a fanboi, I read that crap its nothing new to me.
All I'm saying is, stop talking till you can say with confidence that the game is so easy a caveman can hit max lvl.This is not a game.
I am looking forward to both. Was never a fan of GW1. Hopefully GW2 will be more to my taste. It certainly looks gorgeous.
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
Let me rephrase, You reach end game in a faction of the time. That is not a good thing for me. The more I read up on Guild Wars 2 the more I am thinking that its going to cater to Solo-Casual players.
And seriously if I hear one more GW2 fan tell me to read up on shit I am going to go insane. I read up on about 70% of all the GW2 crap, Hell I plan on playing A charr warrior for fu#ks sakes. Just because I like Star Wars does not mean I hate Guild Wars.
GW2 will be my new runescape, and by that I mean something to keep me occupied when my SWTOR sub runs out.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
Obviously SWTOR, you cannot fail with a developer like bioware, and even though they have no experience in mmos. Look at blizzard pre-wow
More hyped for GW2 but only by a Norn
The following statement is false
The previous statement is true
Never played GW and I'm not interested in GW2 so I'm SWTOR hyped.
The mere fact you even said that shows how little you understood about the game. The game was design from it's very core to provide the player with short bursts of entertainment for which the player will take regular breaks from. The game even told to take a break after 3 hours of play. It was NEVER meant to hold people consistantly in the long term that's how it was orignally designed. All grind was optional and provided little to no in game advantages. The only thing that was supposed to keep people in the long term was competitive pvp play, if you didn't enjoy that you would complete the campaign content and then stop playing. The fact that they stop releasing campaigns also contribute to why there isn't as much playing but there still is a fairly large amount.
GW2 despite continuing the optional grind philosophy won't be like that at all. It's heavily PvE focused this time with plenty of activities to do long after completing the personal story and much of it can be played for long periods of time should the player choose to do that.
Here is vid that explains alot about SWTOR its from comicon
http://comic-con.gamespot.com/video/6270912/
I think becouse of of the lack of infortmaition alot people underastimate swtor i think its gonna be great game .
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Yes, SWTOR will be really good and likely out before GW2, so think many that want to play GW2 will also check out TOR.
@ Snaylor ""And seriously if I hear one more GW2 fan tell me to read up on shit I am going to go insane. I read up on about 70% of all the GW2 crap, Hell I plan on playing A charr warrior for fu#ks sakes. Just because I like Star Wars does not mean I hate Guild Wars.""
Seriously, you could read up more on GW2, apparently "end-game" will have a "twist". Joking aside, I do share your concern that possibly the casualness could backfire. But I hope for the contrary, that it circumvents the usual mmo out-of-game problems of player partition such as levels/grind/gear/end-game/grouping that work against game-play and the flexibility actually comes through. It does make me wonder in what sense GW2 is looking to be challenging however? Combat? I hope so.
http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1014633/Classic-Game-Postmortem
GW2 easily, loved the first one so I am waiting for this alot.
Currently playing: N/A
Retired from: GW, WAR, Aion, LOTRO, Rift, SW:TOR, Vinductus
Thats what they said about GW1, and they didn't start saying "Yeah GW1 was never a real mmo." Till they announced GW2. I am sure GW2 will be a fun game, I ll find that out and reach my own decision when I play the game. But I like the EQ style game play and not GWs style, I think what GW2 Fans need to understand is that people LOVE tanking and healing and nothing is going to change that, I know that you don't like the Tank/DPS/Healer gameplay and I am fine with that, more power to ya, but what I hate is that your saying its a bad thing when its not, it never was, and never will be, its more like a genre stable and it will be around long after both SWTOR and GW2.
You keep wondering why people have no interest in GW2, yet think SWTOR will rock, its freakin star wars, bioware and an MMO your average joe does not care about innovation, your Xbox 360 player won't care. The majority of people whinning about innovation seem to be the hardcore MMO players and guess what they are a minority.
/end rant
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
It's your right to prefer EQ play over gw. I just personal care more for gameplay features and design concepts rather than what IP it is and whose making it, as we've been burnt by that too many times now.
^ So very very true
I vote for GW 2, because i dont like star wars anyway
and GW2 seems to break the grind and they have proven themselfs in the past
While bioware might be good RPG developers it will not guarantee they can launch a good stable mmo
i mean look at Funcom. They made Dreamfall. one of the most loved adventures in the past decade but the seem to have hard time managing an mmo.
and till now SW tor hasnt showed any features that seem to totally suprise me
GW2 hands down. SWTOR looks like a pig steaming pile of shit imo. Prolly gonna be dumbed down so much for all the wow kiddies and star wars fans who suck at games.
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