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The difference is, if you buy ICC gear, you are skipping X number of time units. You can't do that through regular means. With remote AH, you CAN do the same without it. You park your char in AH and you can trade just as effectively as from remote AH. You gain NOTHING from remote AH except:
- you don't have to have a PC to bid;
- you can bid from the bank;
Do not compare that for buying ICC gear. Compare that to someone using Auctioneer with someone who doesn't.
EDIT: here is a complete list of things paid version of remote AH has:
http://www.wowarmory.com/wow-remote.xml
Bid on auctions
Buy out auctions
Create auctions from items in your bags, bank, and mailbox
Collect gold from successful auctions
Collect gold from unsuccessful bids
Collect all outstanding gold with a single click
Cancel your auctions
Relist items for sale from your expired auctions
Lets compare things you can do WITH and WITHOUT remote AH:
Bid on actions - both
Buy out auctions - both
Create auctions from items in your bags, bank and mailbox - both (bag only), remote AH only(bank/mailbox)
Collect gold from successful auctions - both
Collect gold from unsuccessful bids - both
Collect all outstanding gold with a single click - remote AH only
Cancel your auctions - both
Relist items for sale from your expired auctions - remote AH only (although a mod may be able to do that, I dont know for sure)
Summary: how can you compare that to insta buying ICC gear without raiding?
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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I think the only thing an addon cannot do is post auctions from the mailbox.
It's grasping at straws. Every time I go to the mall I see some guy at one of the kiosks playing WoW on his laptop, I guess he has an advantage I don't because he playing and I'm shopping for clothes.
I see it just fine, Rydeson. You still haven't explained the in-game advantage they have. Are there hours that the game is closed to everyone except users of this app? Are there things that you can do with that app that you cannot do in-game?
People are paying for the ability to use an extremely limited client on another platform. That's it. There is nothing they can do that you can't already do with your client. Are you another one who feels the game shouldn't be playable on laptops?
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I get the impression Blizz is "testing the waters" as to how far the wow addicts will go to get their fix. Mom is making me go to grandma's today but I can still at least play the AH from my cell. I am not getting a pretty picture of what the next Blizzard MMO will contain.
Then I guess it's 'fluff'?
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So again, because no one has explained it yet, how is it different from the dude playing WoW from his laptop in an airport/mall/park/etc? I can 'play' the AH (as well as the rest of the game) from anywhere if I have a laptop and I don't have to pay a thing for that.
I mean really, what is the difference? Everyone gonna start running out and buying Iphones and Blackberry's so they can get this app and 'play' the AH even more so then they do in game? I'm surprised you don't think the wow armory app is an advantage because it lets me look up gear even though I'm not at a 'computer'.
The trolling is almost laughable.
I'm absolutely astonished at how difficult it is for some of you to grasp that this IS an advantage. Last I checked schools don't allow kids to throw their laptop on a desk and play WoW and any business worth any sense blocks access to WoW from the workplace (notice I said any sense because I know there are plenty of clueless business owners out there). Therefore if someone who pays for this service now has the ability to play the AH 24x7x365, where someone that does not pay for it can only play the AH when they are not at work, school or whatever then that IS an advantage.
I always have my phone on me, I don't always have my laptop with me.
I play WoW, I don't play the AH and see this as a simple cash grab. I honestly could care less, but me thinks it is time for some of you to put down the mouse and keyboard and leave the fantasy world for a weekend because your reasoning skills have clearly become dull.
And yet, here you are.
Yes here I am. WOW became a form of train wreck long ago. A horrible sight but you just have to see who can suffer through the damage and remain reasonably intact.
If there was no advantage - people would not buy it. That is basic logic.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
If the WoW AH required constant manipulation like, say, a stock market, then I'd understand how this might be considered an advantage.
That's not the case, though.
Of course it is an advantage, its just a question of how big of an advantage it is. When it comes to playing the AH;
The guy who have a laptop have an advantage over the guy who plays on a stationary.
The guy who pays for more than one account have an advantage over the guy that have only one.
The guy who have an Iphone with this service have an advantage over a guy who doesnt have it.
To put it simple: money --> advantage. This isnt really anything new either, and like all companies ActiBlizz wants money. Im sure they have earned a bundle of it on the unique rewards from refer a "friend" thingies, where a bunch of people no doubt just bought another account for themselves.
A bunch of people seems upset about this new money-maker (Blizzard forum), and its not very strange when it is unusuallly easy to spot compared to the sneakier refer-a-friend-route.
The sad thing is the people in that thread who seems very upset and disappointed, but wont or "cant" cancel because they claim they are too addicted.
Reacting to being outbid.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
It's not just being addicted to WoW. I was never addicted.
It's that there are very few decent alternatives.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
It doesn't? When I made my millions in WOW (pre BC) I used to stand for hours in the AH carefully pricing my goods, making my offers, and what not, sometimes for 2 or 3 hours at a time (no one wanted druids as healers in their 5 mans back then and I was trying to get my first blue set so I could join an MC raiding guild)
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Auction House access across multiple devices that are not your PC looks like pure freaking genius to me. No shock at all that Blizzard made this move, and with ~ 11 million subs as a potential market, no shock at all that they decided to sell the application for a small price.
Let's see... just 2% of their user base goes for it at US$3 a pop (I rounded, so sue me).... I wish a game I've worked on was in a position to effectively sell a database interface tool for a likely income of US$660,000. And that's a conservative minimum. I'm thinking a few million people will bite, if they haven't already.
That is odd considering You could only buy 3 of the pieces, and it took any where from 10-15 people to get your first blue dungeon 1 set? You could not get it with 5 People. With regular raid groups forming spamming chat all the time. I mained a druid in vanilla and I did not see this problem you speak of. It did hurt us as we leveled because of having no rez. By the time you start working on your dungeon one their was no limitation on any class to get the set. Besides the fact that gold is a lot more worthless now that you can buy only vanity mostly now. other than that it is you usual repairs, reagents, and Re-gemming and enchanting costs. There is the rare Primordial saronite on the AH which is the only thing of real value.
Pretty cool, I suppose I would use it if it were free, or I cared that much about the AH. I guess theres some passionate people out there willing to throw Blizzard another 3 bucks a month.
if I read correctly, isn't it free with a subscription to WoW ? If so then why does it say $3.00 per 30 days. Kinda lost on this one at the moment.
And another reason for me not to come back to WoW.
What's next? Maybe a "pay only 2$ monthly to use your W-key ingame. People who don't pay can use their W-key 50 times a day, the others any amount of times. Purchasers of a 3-year subscription of the W-key get the L-key for only half the price! Lifetime-subscription only 200$ for the W-key, or 20.000$ for the whole keyboard!"
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Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)
Two problems here:
Blizzard never introduced something new, right ?
And since the game never had any economy why did they add an I-phone mini-game to play on the AH ?
Puzzled.
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Lets keep personal attacks out of the discussion guys.
Comparing something that they designed as an extra application outside the game for users to an already included part of game really made no sense. Plenty of games including EQ2 charged for an online armory of your character as well as otehr things that you would have to pay extra for. Don't like it? Don't use it, it's not as If it should be included in the game .... I sure as hell wont be purchasing it.
What about all those unemployed neck-beards, living in their parent's basements, permanantly high on Jolt and Pro-Plus?
The ability to play the AH 24x7x365.
OMG! INGAME ADVANTAGE!
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Free to view your auctions. The $3 sub gives you the ability to buy and sell.....