My main worry are the minors, who won't think twice about activating the forum real-id feature. Yes, there are warnings, but many teenagers and children won't realise the true implications of their actions until the damage is already done.
My main worry are the minors, who won't think twice about activating the forum real-id feature. Yes, there are warnings, but many teenagers and children won't realise the true implications of their actions until the damage is already done.
Use Parental Control?
unless the teen tells his parents about this and they have a good understanding of how these things work, that wont happen.
Surprisingly few parents get really involved with their teenagers gaming, atleast not to the point where they could understand and relate to the impact of this realID thing, let lone know about it? I mean its not like its something they will read about in the newspaper. - for now
Now if blizzard automatically opted you out of real ID, then parents wouldnt have to know about this to create and set parental controlls in the first place.
unless the teen tells his parents about this and they have a good understanding of how these things work, that wont happen.
Surprisingly few parents get really involved with their teenagers gaming, atleast not to the point where they could understand and relate to the impact of this realID thing, let lone know about it? I mean its not like its something they will read about in the newspaper. - for now
Now if blizzard automatically opted you out of real ID, then parents wouldnt have to know about this to create and set parental controlls in the first place.
unless the teen tells his parents about this and they have a good understanding of how these things work, that wont happen.
Surprisingly few parents get really involved with their teenagers gaming, atleast not to the point where they could understand and relate to the impact of this realID thing, let lone know about it? I mean its not like its something they will read about in the newspaper. - for now
Now if blizzard automatically opted you out of real ID, then parents wouldnt have to know about this to create and set parental controlls in the first place.
Well, just don't piss anyone off and you should be fine!
You really think thats the solution? There are so many ways to piss off people without malicious intent it's not even funny these days. People are incredibly sensitive. Defeating someone in a simple arena match can just set the wrong person off on a fit. I've seen scary reactions from people over very little.
Example: Knew a guy back in high school. Over at his house after school one day, showing off his computer and DAoC account, etc. His brother was also an avid gamer, had a room across the hall. Well the brother went off into the house to get a snack and went afk. The guy I knew went into his room and went to fiddle with something (can't remember exactly what anymore but I know he wasn't trying to do anything to his brothers account) but the brothers character got PvP ganked in the process. Brother came back and threw one of the biggest tantrums I've ever witness. Tossing furniture, punching holes in the walls, knocking down a door and eventually coming after the brother than I knew. If it wasn't for myself and a couple other guys, someone would have gotten the crap knocked out of them.
That's just one example of something that could happen but now with strangers. You think a stranger is going to care about hurting someone they do not even know if brothers can do that? On top of that, what if when using the RealID system, the pissed off party has a list of possible people with that real name combination and decides to just say "F it, I'll get them all. Then I'll know I'll eventually get the right one." Now I know, the chances of an attack on another person are very low but all it takes is that one time to screw everything up for everyone. Don't say stupid things like "I'm not afraid, it wont happen to me". How many people said that about drinking and driving? Texting and driving?
"Oh I'm a great driver and I text all the time, never once wrecked." BAM, just one time and they have to type using their eyes. Just one time people.
and I didn't speak up because I didn't mind being integrated by Facebook
Then they made us use RealID
and I didn't speak up because I didn't mind using RealID
Then a stalker showed up at my house
and I didn't speak up because of the chloroform
Nice.
Regarding the OP blog, I think it's a good demonstration of how easy it is for an every day joe to find information on someone when just provided with a first and last name, simply by using freely available internet search tools.
There are companies which provide a much deeper level of information penetration for a fee - these companies operate like a remote private investigation tool, and just with the provision of a first and last name and maybe a general hint of location can provide truly detailed information on someone. So the player 'Andrew Wilson' might have commented one time that is was 'Damn cold here atm in Philly' in general chat or maybe in pvp chat, and Psycho Bob took note but didn't say anything. Then later that week or next week 'Andrew Wilson' kills Psycho Bob at a rare spawn - and Psycho Bob goes..well..psycho
He contacts one of these online PI companies and provides the name Andrew Wislon, located in Philadelphia, who plays WoW, and wants all available info on him. Within 48-72 hours he will have the address, relatives, phone number, credit history, criminal record, spouse / children information, occupation and business contact information, email and mobile contact numbers, past addresses and past employment history, educational history..the list goes on
Now Pshycho Bob can fulfill his name and do any number of things which would impact Andrews personal life in anegative way, up to and including personal harm to him or his family
And this is just one small example, if you make Andrew 'Andrea' then it becomes 100 times scarier for the poor girl who just happens to like playing an online game
10+ Million people play their game supposedly. What better way to get even more money, then start building the stepping stones for a Facebook/Myspace of their own. This is just the start, and will continue to grow bigger. There is a lot of money to be made from this. Activision/Blizzard.. are not going to sit back, and not tap into a new income source, of all this marketing data their sitting on. They can't make money off game character names, but they can with real peoples names, so here comes the REAL ID ladies and gentlemen.
You think after 6 year's they would honestly give a rat's ass about cleaning up forums now, and help promote a better community now. F$@! no! The forums is just a minority of their userbase. You would think they would clean up their own in game chat, but again they don't give a rat's ass. They have a ton of people hooked, and for them to even want to try and act like they care now and blow sunshine and raindbows up your ass, about providing a better community... makes me want to throw up. Remember the EULA changes not to long ago where they stated you have to make it clear to Blizzard that you want to opt out, on them selling your information... that's the first shot. Now the real id, and the social experiment begins.
Then this is NOT, and i mean NOT going to stop troll's at all. To even think this will, is quite absurb. All their going to do is make it so the people who are freaked out, and legit .. quit going to the forums. The people who don't give a damn, will remain. The people who don't give a damn, and still want to be Trolly McGee will remain, and the people who want to troll under names like Chuck Norris will remain. This really solves nothing, nor changes anything really.
For privacy about the whole subject at hand. All im going to say is if their is a will, theres a way. Theres some hardcore means out their to get someones info. Theres plenty of assholes, willing to sell your name they got some way(maybe Blizzard themself's, LoL!), and fill their pockets. We are talking about a game, not facebook here, but a game where people build relationships everday... in a sense like we do in everyday life.
Games like this, can bring out a lot of strong emotions... good, or bad. For a sicko, to stalk a girl on facebook is one thing, but now you are going throw in the potential of a sicko forming a realtionship with said girl who doesnt know any better..... hahahaha.
What I find silly about this blog is the fact that the "realID" information he is refering to is what you can find from perusing your game manual. I can tell e.g. that Jeff Chamberlain was Director/Writer for the Cinematics of WotLK. If the world is full of stalkers and madmen why haven't they done this before as the information was widely available. Or do you people seriously think that every single staff member of Blizzard (and any other company in existance) is hiding their whereabouts? Then, manifold the number of people by roughly 10,000 times and you will have the active playerbase of WoW. It starts to be pretty much like going through all the white page entries and tracking down their information. Sure you can do it, but are people really doing so?
Also, someone earlier on posted that someone got killed because of something that happened on Counter-Strike. Now then, did he have access to the victim's real name? I don't think so. Hence, even without the real name you can track down people if you choose so. You can live in an illusion that you are not to be found on the internet, whilst in reality virtually anyone can get all of your information with little know-how. Choose to be paranoid if you please, but the risks are not augmented by this change but by the fact that all information is widely available with a few simple checks by a search engine.
In addition to that, I'd like to remind that most of the crime victims actually do know (as in real life know) the person who committed the crime. The image of a random stalker or a sexual pervert might be a powerful one but it hardly depicts reality. If you want to find the person who is most likely to haress or batter you, just look around. You likely know him or her already. The only risk that is likely increased is that of someone getting access to your battle.net account by contacting Blizzard with your address information. Although, even then you would likely have to have access to his/her e-mail.
That guy represents many just like him. Those who, unfortunately for the sane majority, tend to perpetuate the fallacy that gamers are unhinged psychopaths. A fallacy about the masses, sure, but not completely false about a small part of gaming's population.
More to the point: You want that guy and those like him knowing your real name after you beat him on a roll for epic loot?
Yeah, me neither.
"You'll never win an argument with an idiot because he is too stupid to recognize his own defeat." ~Anonymous
That guy represents many just like him. Those who, unfortunately for the sane majority, tend to perpetuate the fallacy that gamers are unhinged psychopaths. A fallacy about the masses, sure, but not completely false about a small part of gaming's population.
More to the point: You want that guy and those like him knowing your real name after you beat him on a roll for epic loot?
Yeah, me neither.
I would be indifferent about it. There's a long way from being pissed with anger issues to actually hurting and committing a crime.
That guy represents many just like him. Those who, unfortunately for the sane majority, tend to perpetuate the fallacy that gamers are unhinged psychopaths. A fallacy about the masses, sure, but not completely false about a small part of gaming's population.
More to the point: You want that guy and those like him knowing your real name after you beat him on a roll for epic loot?
Yeah, me neither.
I would be indifferent about it. There's a long way from being pissed with anger issues to actually hurting and committing a crime.
I thought the danger would be self evident, but I guess an example would be in order. Let's say Real ID was in use in the DAoC forums at the time. So dude is all pissed off that someone stole his Cloudsong and he goes datamining. He searches for posts by the guy who stole the thing and discovers his real name. Google, Spokeo, and Intelius are very good, very cheap places to find some personal information.
Now consider that despite not knowing 100% that the "John Smith" who stole the Cloudsong is the "John Smith" Mr. Nerdrage has decided to target, he goes on to get retribution. What's this? Mom's name and address? I'm just so sure she'd love a free catalog from Anal College Sluts on Film. Oh hey, here's a work name and number for John Smith. Wouldn't his boss love to know that he surfs for child porn from a work computer?
The point is, unreasonable people do unreasonable things. What in the hell is even the slightest bit logical about allowing a real name to potentially be connected to a player in a game where emotions can run high over the stupidest things? And in the example above, there's a very real chance that a completely innocent and unaware John Smith has had his life and livelihood tarnished over something he had nothing to do with.
"You'll never win an argument with an idiot because he is too stupid to recognize his own defeat." ~Anonymous
That guy represents many just like him. Those who, unfortunately for the sane majority, tend to perpetuate the fallacy that gamers are unhinged psychopaths. A fallacy about the masses, sure, but not completely false about a small part of gaming's population.
More to the point: You want that guy and those like him knowing your real name after you beat him on a roll for epic loot?
Yeah, me neither.
There are many crazy people in the world. Some happen to play video games. Am I going to live in fear of those people? No, i'm not.
I thought the danger would be self evident, but I guess an example would be in order. Let's say Real ID was in use in the DAoC forums at the time. So dude is all pissed off that someone stole his Cloudsong and he goes datamining. He searches for posts by the guy who stole the thing and discovers his real name. Google, Spokeo, and Intelius are very good, very cheap places to find some personal information.
Now consider that despite knowing 100% that the "John Smith" who stole the Cloudsong is the "John Smith" Mr. Nerdrage has decided to target, he goes on to get retribution. What's this? Mom's name and address? I'm just so sure she'd love a free catalog from Anal College Sluts on Film. Oh hey, here's a work name and number for John Smith. Wouldn't his boss love to know that he surfs for child porn from a work computer?
The point is, unreasonable people do unreasonable things. What in the hell is even the slightest bit logical about allowing a real name to potentially be connected to a player in a game where emotions can run high over the stupidest things?
So he's going order magazines? They can be thrown out and the subscription cancelled. The thing is, I've been in online conversations (verbal, not in writing) where one guy threatened to kill the other guy. It was tense but he gave out his address any way (the same that he gave me, so I bet it was the real one) and that crazy guy said that he was going to come and kill him. What happened? Nothing. People are so tough on the internet, but when a name is put behind those words people quickly back off. That's part of Blizzard's scare policy they're presenting to us right now. It's not going to work every time, but as long as it works at least decently enough, then I'm fine by it.
Since you showed me a youtube video, I'm going to show one to you too:
Now, that guy is more calm, but he's making threats nonetheless. Just watch what happens at the end.
I thought the danger would be self evident, but I guess an example would be in order. Let's say Real ID was in use in the DAoC forums at the time. So dude is all pissed off that someone stole his Cloudsong and he goes datamining. He searches for posts by the guy who stole the thing and discovers his real name. Google, Spokeo, and Intelius are very good, very cheap places to find some personal information.
Now consider that despite knowing 100% that the "John Smith" who stole the Cloudsong is the "John Smith" Mr. Nerdrage has decided to target, he goes on to get retribution. What's this? Mom's name and address? I'm just so sure she'd love a free catalog from Anal College Sluts on Film. Oh hey, here's a work name and number for John Smith. Wouldn't his boss love to know that he surfs for child porn from a work computer?
The point is, unreasonable people do unreasonable things. What in the hell is even the slightest bit logical about allowing a real name to potentially be connected to a player in a game where emotions can run high over the stupidest things?
So he's going order magazines? They can be thrown out and the subscription cancelled. The thing is, I've been in online conversations (verbal, not in writing) where one guy threatened to kill the other guy. It was tense but he gave out his address any way (the same that he gave me, so I bet it was the real one) and that crazy guy said that he was going to come and kill him. What happened? Nothing. People are so tough on the internet, but when a name is put behind those words people quickly back off. That's part of Blizzard's scare policy they're presenting to us right now. It's not going to work every time, but as long as it works at least decently enough, then I'm fine by it.
Since you showed me a youtube video, I'm going to show one to you too:
Now, that guy is more calm, but he's making threats nonetheless. Just watch what happens at the end.
Yeah, I've seen that video, and sure, a happy ending came about. The guy who was ganked was ultimately levelheaded and dealt with it the best way he could after sleeping on it. Kudos to him.
Now, if only everyone was like that.
"You'll never win an argument with an idiot because he is too stupid to recognize his own defeat." ~Anonymous
That guy represents many just like him. Those who, unfortunately for the sane majority, tend to perpetuate the fallacy that gamers are unhinged psychopaths. A fallacy about the masses, sure, but not completely false about a small part of gaming's population.
More to the point: You want that guy and those like him knowing your real name after you beat him on a roll for epic loot?
Yeah, me neither.
There are many crazy people in the world. Some happen to play video games. Am I going to live in fear of those people? No, i'm not.
There are many burglars in the world, some may be living next door to you ... are you going to live in fear of those people. No you're not.
BUT I DON'T SEE YOU LEAVING YOUR FRONT DOOR OPEN ... do I?
Well, just don't piss anyone off and you should be fine!
You have a point but sometimes you can't avoid pissing off people. Not your fault, just some people is soooo much stupid that they will get pissed about you even if you dont want and try not to.
There are many burglars in the world, some may be living next door to you ... are you going to live in fear of those people. No you're not.
BUT I DON'T SEE YOU LEAVING YOUR FRONT DOOR OPEN ... do I?
Sounds quite stupid to leave your front door open, talk about an expensive heating bill.
Try to move to Canada and realise that they don't lock their doors.
I've been following your posts on this thread ... and at this point I don't know if you're just having an opposite position for the hell of it or if you're just a plane idiot.
Your post above seems to point in the direction of the latter.
There are many burglars in the world, some may be living next door to you ... are you going to live in fear of those people. No you're not.
BUT I DON'T SEE YOU LEAVING YOUR FRONT DOOR OPEN ... do I?
Sounds quite stupid to leave your front door open, talk about an expensive heating bill.
Try to move to Canada and realise that they don't lock their doors.
You think Canada is the only place in the world that doesn't lock their doors? There are many people around here who dont' lock their doors either. But hey, why don't you post your first name and your last name, and we'll put a tag next to your account that you don't lock your doors too just to be sure that some looney toon tracks you down. Sound good?
parrotpholk-Because we all know the miracle patch fairy shows up the night before release and sprinkles magic dust on the server to make it allllll better.
I've been following your posts on this thread ... and at this point I don't know if you're just having an opposite position for the hell of it or just a plane idiot.
Your post above seems to point in the direction of the latter.
I'm sorry, I didn't know your opinion was the right one.
Originally posted by Nesrie
You think Canada is the only place in the world that doesn't lock their doors? There are many people around here who dont' lock their doors either. But hey, why don't you post your first name and your last name, and we'll put a tag next to your account that you don't lock your doors too just to be sure that some looney toon tracks you down. Sound good?
Why is this still a valid argument? I have already posted my first and last name as well as my Facebook. The fact that you're too lazy to search for it is not of my concern.
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Dude?!
unless the teen tells his parents about this and they have a good understanding of how these things work, that wont happen.
Surprisingly few parents get really involved with their teenagers gaming, atleast not to the point where they could understand and relate to the impact of this realID thing, let lone know about it? I mean its not like its something they will read about in the newspaper. - for now
Now if blizzard automatically opted you out of real ID, then parents wouldnt have to know about this to create and set parental controlls in the first place.
Well, just don't piss anyone off and you should be fine!
Pepsi1028
PEPSI!!!!!
Get out of your box already...
Sounds like a parenting issue to me.
Eleanor Rigby.
No, it sounds like reality.
So the reality is that since parents don't look after their children, Blizzard should?
Eleanor Rigby.
You really think thats the solution? There are so many ways to piss off people without malicious intent it's not even funny these days. People are incredibly sensitive. Defeating someone in a simple arena match can just set the wrong person off on a fit. I've seen scary reactions from people over very little.
Example: Knew a guy back in high school. Over at his house after school one day, showing off his computer and DAoC account, etc. His brother was also an avid gamer, had a room across the hall. Well the brother went off into the house to get a snack and went afk. The guy I knew went into his room and went to fiddle with something (can't remember exactly what anymore but I know he wasn't trying to do anything to his brothers account) but the brothers character got PvP ganked in the process. Brother came back and threw one of the biggest tantrums I've ever witness. Tossing furniture, punching holes in the walls, knocking down a door and eventually coming after the brother than I knew. If it wasn't for myself and a couple other guys, someone would have gotten the crap knocked out of them.
That's just one example of something that could happen but now with strangers. You think a stranger is going to care about hurting someone they do not even know if brothers can do that? On top of that, what if when using the RealID system, the pissed off party has a list of possible people with that real name combination and decides to just say "F it, I'll get them all. Then I'll know I'll eventually get the right one." Now I know, the chances of an attack on another person are very low but all it takes is that one time to screw everything up for everyone. Don't say stupid things like "I'm not afraid, it wont happen to me". How many people said that about drinking and driving? Texting and driving?
"Oh I'm a great driver and I text all the time, never once wrecked." BAM, just one time and they have to type using their eyes. Just one time people.
You don't have to 'piss anyone off' to become a target. Jealousy and greed are enough to make anyone, no matter how they behave themselves, a target.
Nice.
Regarding the OP blog, I think it's a good demonstration of how easy it is for an every day joe to find information on someone when just provided with a first and last name, simply by using freely available internet search tools.
There are companies which provide a much deeper level of information penetration for a fee - these companies operate like a remote private investigation tool, and just with the provision of a first and last name and maybe a general hint of location can provide truly detailed information on someone. So the player 'Andrew Wilson' might have commented one time that is was 'Damn cold here atm in Philly' in general chat or maybe in pvp chat, and Psycho Bob took note but didn't say anything. Then later that week or next week 'Andrew Wilson' kills Psycho Bob at a rare spawn - and Psycho Bob goes..well..psycho
He contacts one of these online PI companies and provides the name Andrew Wislon, located in Philadelphia, who plays WoW, and wants all available info on him. Within 48-72 hours he will have the address, relatives, phone number, credit history, criminal record, spouse / children information, occupation and business contact information, email and mobile contact numbers, past addresses and past employment history, educational history..the list goes on
Now Pshycho Bob can fulfill his name and do any number of things which would impact Andrews personal life in anegative way, up to and including personal harm to him or his family
And this is just one small example, if you make Andrew 'Andrea' then it becomes 100 times scarier for the poor girl who just happens to like playing an online game
10+ Million people play their game supposedly. What better way to get even more money, then start building the stepping stones for a Facebook/Myspace of their own. This is just the start, and will continue to grow bigger. There is a lot of money to be made from this. Activision/Blizzard.. are not going to sit back, and not tap into a new income source, of all this marketing data their sitting on. They can't make money off game character names, but they can with real peoples names, so here comes the REAL ID ladies and gentlemen.
You think after 6 year's they would honestly give a rat's ass about cleaning up forums now, and help promote a better community now. F$@! no! The forums is just a minority of their userbase. You would think they would clean up their own in game chat, but again they don't give a rat's ass. They have a ton of people hooked, and for them to even want to try and act like they care now and blow sunshine and raindbows up your ass, about providing a better community... makes me want to throw up. Remember the EULA changes not to long ago where they stated you have to make it clear to Blizzard that you want to opt out, on them selling your information... that's the first shot. Now the real id, and the social experiment begins.
Then this is NOT, and i mean NOT going to stop troll's at all. To even think this will, is quite absurb. All their going to do is make it so the people who are freaked out, and legit .. quit going to the forums. The people who don't give a damn, will remain. The people who don't give a damn, and still want to be Trolly McGee will remain, and the people who want to troll under names like Chuck Norris will remain. This really solves nothing, nor changes anything really.
For privacy about the whole subject at hand. All im going to say is if their is a will, theres a way. Theres some hardcore means out their to get someones info. Theres plenty of assholes, willing to sell your name they got some way(maybe Blizzard themself's, LoL!), and fill their pockets. We are talking about a game, not facebook here, but a game where people build relationships everday... in a sense like we do in everyday life.
Games like this, can bring out a lot of strong emotions... good, or bad. For a sicko, to stalk a girl on facebook is one thing, but now you are going throw in the potential of a sicko forming a realtionship with said girl who doesnt know any better..... hahahaha.
WTG Blizzard!!
What I find silly about this blog is the fact that the "realID" information he is refering to is what you can find from perusing your game manual. I can tell e.g. that Jeff Chamberlain was Director/Writer for the Cinematics of WotLK. If the world is full of stalkers and madmen why haven't they done this before as the information was widely available. Or do you people seriously think that every single staff member of Blizzard (and any other company in existance) is hiding their whereabouts? Then, manifold the number of people by roughly 10,000 times and you will have the active playerbase of WoW. It starts to be pretty much like going through all the white page entries and tracking down their information. Sure you can do it, but are people really doing so?
Also, someone earlier on posted that someone got killed because of something that happened on Counter-Strike. Now then, did he have access to the victim's real name? I don't think so. Hence, even without the real name you can track down people if you choose so. You can live in an illusion that you are not to be found on the internet, whilst in reality virtually anyone can get all of your information with little know-how. Choose to be paranoid if you please, but the risks are not augmented by this change but by the fact that all information is widely available with a few simple checks by a search engine.
In addition to that, I'd like to remind that most of the crime victims actually do know (as in real life know) the person who committed the crime. The image of a random stalker or a sexual pervert might be a powerful one but it hardly depicts reality. If you want to find the person who is most likely to haress or batter you, just look around. You likely know him or her already. The only risk that is likely increased is that of someone getting access to your battle.net account by contacting Blizzard with your address information. Although, even then you would likely have to have access to his/her e-mail.
I'll keep it simple.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX1Qcflxak0
That guy represents many just like him. Those who, unfortunately for the sane majority, tend to perpetuate the fallacy that gamers are unhinged psychopaths. A fallacy about the masses, sure, but not completely false about a small part of gaming's population.
More to the point: You want that guy and those like him knowing your real name after you beat him on a roll for epic loot?
Yeah, me neither.
"You'll never win an argument with an idiot because he is too stupid to recognize his own defeat." ~Anonymous
I would be indifferent about it. There's a long way from being pissed with anger issues to actually hurting and committing a crime.
Eleanor Rigby.
I thought the danger would be self evident, but I guess an example would be in order. Let's say Real ID was in use in the DAoC forums at the time. So dude is all pissed off that someone stole his Cloudsong and he goes datamining. He searches for posts by the guy who stole the thing and discovers his real name. Google, Spokeo, and Intelius are very good, very cheap places to find some personal information.
Now consider that despite not knowing 100% that the "John Smith" who stole the Cloudsong is the "John Smith" Mr. Nerdrage has decided to target, he goes on to get retribution. What's this? Mom's name and address? I'm just so sure she'd love a free catalog from Anal College Sluts on Film. Oh hey, here's a work name and number for John Smith. Wouldn't his boss love to know that he surfs for child porn from a work computer?
The point is, unreasonable people do unreasonable things. What in the hell is even the slightest bit logical about allowing a real name to potentially be connected to a player in a game where emotions can run high over the stupidest things? And in the example above, there's a very real chance that a completely innocent and unaware John Smith has had his life and livelihood tarnished over something he had nothing to do with.
"You'll never win an argument with an idiot because he is too stupid to recognize his own defeat." ~Anonymous
There are many crazy people in the world. Some happen to play video games. Am I going to live in fear of those people? No, i'm not.
Yeah, I give up. 3:30 AM is just too late (or too early) a time to try to argue with the obtuse.
"You'll never win an argument with an idiot because he is too stupid to recognize his own defeat." ~Anonymous
So he's going order magazines? They can be thrown out and the subscription cancelled. The thing is, I've been in online conversations (verbal, not in writing) where one guy threatened to kill the other guy. It was tense but he gave out his address any way (the same that he gave me, so I bet it was the real one) and that crazy guy said that he was going to come and kill him. What happened? Nothing. People are so tough on the internet, but when a name is put behind those words people quickly back off. That's part of Blizzard's scare policy they're presenting to us right now. It's not going to work every time, but as long as it works at least decently enough, then I'm fine by it.
Since you showed me a youtube video, I'm going to show one to you too:
Now, that guy is more calm, but he's making threats nonetheless. Just watch what happens at the end.
Eleanor Rigby.
Yeah, I've seen that video, and sure, a happy ending came about. The guy who was ganked was ultimately levelheaded and dealt with it the best way he could after sleeping on it. Kudos to him.
Now, if only everyone was like that.
"You'll never win an argument with an idiot because he is too stupid to recognize his own defeat." ~Anonymous
http://asnowstormbyanyothername.blogspot.com/
This is BRILLIANT. Imagine if this was a stalker. Horrible decision blizzard.
I've already canceled my account.
There are many burglars in the world, some may be living next door to you ... are you going to live in fear of those people. No you're not.
BUT I DON'T SEE YOU LEAVING YOUR FRONT DOOR OPEN ... do I?
You have a point but sometimes you can't avoid pissing off people. Not your fault, just some people is soooo much stupid that they will get pissed about you even if you dont want and try not to.
Sounds quite stupid to leave your front door open, talk about an expensive heating bill.
Try to move to Canada and realise that they don't lock their doors.
Eleanor Rigby.
I've been following your posts on this thread ... and at this point I don't know if you're just having an opposite position for the hell of it or if you're just a plane idiot.
Your post above seems to point in the direction of the latter.
You think Canada is the only place in the world that doesn't lock their doors? There are many people around here who dont' lock their doors either. But hey, why don't you post your first name and your last name, and we'll put a tag next to your account that you don't lock your doors too just to be sure that some looney toon tracks you down. Sound good?
parrotpholk-Because we all know the miracle patch fairy shows up the night before release and sprinkles magic dust on the server to make it allllll better.
I'm sorry, I didn't know your opinion was the right one.
Why is this still a valid argument? I have already posted my first and last name as well as my Facebook. The fact that you're too lazy to search for it is not of my concern.
Eleanor Rigby.