So, not only do we have to go out and buy a 1000 dollar system to play this game, or spend hundreds of dollars upgrading our current systems, but they are capping the FPS at 30!!!! That is just rediculous to me. Maybe they should have never released this game on PC and just released on the PS3 if thats what they were originally designing this game for.
Honestly if anyone is going to complain about having to buy a modern gaming system with decent specs to play modern game that is pushing current standards then that party should not be searching for a modern game to play. Techonology advances and thus the needs for a better system comes in to play. Be it FFXIV or another modern game, people will have to upgrade it's just the way things work when trying to advance the gaming industry. People can't just sit on the system that has run well for 2 years + and fail to update. There is no reason to enter a race on the autoban if you max out at 65km.
END OF LINE_
~V
No MMO is pushing current standards, when it comes to graphics. They simply don't compair to single player games, and that includes FF XIV. No matter the MMO, any lack of FPS is down to simply two things: -
1) A poor gfx/interface design
2) Relience on server side responces.
You should not have to spend thousands on a gaming platform, simply based on graphics. FF XIV also does not advance gaming technology, or mechanics, in anyway.
LOL glad to see you are back! Keep up the good comments.
Im just wondering , when people say that the core mechanics of the game dont work , do they mean that they dont like the design ?? and if they dont , it means the game is broken?? what about everyone else who likes the way it is?
The more I read about UI and beta, the more it seems it is very similar to FFXI. I had issues with FFXI but it was more about getting used to the controls/ui rather than it being "Broken."
A lot of beta testers maybe didn't play FFXI let alone an MMO using a controller. Because it feels SOOOO different, they choose to characterize the ui as "broken."
Yes, maybe it could be streamlined, but it seems that SE is in a catch 22. They need to design a game that works as well on the PS3 as it does on the PC. I would think it's easy to make the UI feel more like modern mmo's on the PC but that becomes an impossibility on the PS3.
SE realizes that the PS3 users (which will be majority of users in Japan) will use a controller. In that regard, you can't have any competitive advantage over PS3 users if you choose to use the PC.
It's not a matter of getting the UI to be like Wow or any other mmo, it's an issue of making the UI "better" for PC Keyboard users AND PS3 controller users. It will NEVER be perfect because SE will not sacrifice one over the other.
People just need to accept the UI as is, or find another game. I really don't know what other drastic changes SE can possible make, especially at this point in development.
So, not only do we have to go out and buy a 1000 dollar system to play this game, or spend hundreds of dollars upgrading our current systems, but they are capping the FPS at 30!!!! That is just rediculous to me. Maybe they should have never released this game on PC and just released on the PS3 if thats what they were originally designing this game for.
Honestly if anyone is going to complain about having to buy a modern gaming system with decent specs to play modern game that is pushing current standards then that party should not be searching for a modern game to play. Techonology advances and thus the needs for a better system comes in to play. Be it FFXIV or another modern game, people will have to upgrade it's just the way things work when trying to advance the gaming industry. People can't just sit on the system that has run well for 2 years + and fail to update. There is no reason to enter a race on the autoban if you max out at 65km.
END OF LINE_
~V
No MMO is pushing current standards, when it comes to graphics. They simply don't compair to single player games, and that includes FF XIV. No matter the MMO, any lack of FPS is down to simply two things: -
1) A poor gfx/interface design
2) Relience on server side responces.
You should not have to spend thousands on a gaming platform, simply based on graphics. FF XIV also does not advance gaming technology, or mechanics, in anyway.
Opinion.
Glad to see you are back though!
Not an opinion. Fact! Wasn't even refering just to FF XIV, other than for the last section.
The more I read about UI and beta, the more it seems it is very similar to FFXI. I had issues with FFXI but it was more about getting used to the controls/ui rather than it being "Broken."
A lot of beta testers maybe didn't play FFXI let alone an MMO using a controller. Because it feels SOOOO different, they choose to characterize the ui as "broken."
Yes, maybe it could be streamlined, but it seems that SE is in a catch 22. They need to design a game that works as well on the PS3 as it does on the PC. I would think it's easy to make the UI feel more like modern mmo's on the PC but that becomes an impossibility on the PS3.
SE realizes that the PS3 users (which will be majority of users in Japan) will use a controller. In that regard, you can't have any competitive advantage over PS3 users if you choose to use the PC.
It's not a matter of getting the UI to be like Wow or any other mmo, it's an issue of making the UI "better" for PC Keyboard users AND PS3 controller users. It will NEVER be perfect because SE will not sacrifice one over the other.
People just need to accept the UI as is, or find another game. I really don't know what other drastic changes SE can possible make, especially at this point in development.
So, not only do we have to go out and buy a 1000 dollar system to play this game, or spend hundreds of dollars upgrading our current systems, but they are capping the FPS at 30!!!! That is just rediculous to me. Maybe they should have never released this game on PC and just released on the PS3 if thats what they were originally designing this game for.
Honestly if anyone is going to complain about having to buy a modern gaming system with decent specs to play modern game that is pushing current standards then that party should not be searching for a modern game to play. Techonology advances and thus the needs for a better system comes in to play. Be it FFXIV or another modern game, people will have to upgrade it's just the way things work when trying to advance the gaming industry. People can't just sit on the system that has run well for 2 years + and fail to update. There is no reason to enter a race on the autoban if you max out at 65km.
END OF LINE_
~V
No MMO is pushing current standards, when it comes to graphics. They simply don't compair to single player games, and that includes FF XIV. No matter the MMO, any lack of FPS is down to simply two things: -
1) A poor gfx/interface design
2) Relience on server side responces.
You should not have to spend thousands on a gaming platform, simply based on graphics. FF XIV also does not advance gaming technology, or mechanics, in anyway.
Opinion.
Glad to see you are back though!
Not an opinion. Fact! Wasn't even refering just to FF XIV, other than for the last section.
AoC, GW2 and FF14 look better than some single player console games so......it is your opinion that they do not.
Im just wondering , when people say that the core mechanics of the game dont work , do they mean that they dont like the design ?? and if they dont , it means the game is broken?? what about everyone else who likes the way it is?
Its as Bhronn says, everything they've implemented is over complicated, and seems to hinder more than making the game fun.
The design is also fundamently outdated, i.e. its a step backwards in MMO design. I dare say we'll here more about this, once the NDA is fully lifted.
Im just wondering , when people say that the core mechanics of the game dont work , do they mean that they dont like the design ?? and if they dont , it means the game is broken?? what about everyone else who likes the way it is?
NO! Grapevine and Brohnn say it is flawed that means it is! Duhhh
Originally posted by grapevine Originally posted by Voltlives
Originally posted by xxmulveyxx
So, not only do we have to go out and buy a 1000 dollar system to play this game, or spend hundreds of dollars upgrading our current systems, but they are capping the FPS at 30!!!! That is just rediculous to me. Maybe they should have never released this game on PC and just released on the PS3 if thats what they were originally designing this game for.
Honestly if anyone is going to complain about having to buy a modern gaming system with decent specs to play modern game that is pushing current standards then that party should not be searching for a modern game to play. Techonology advances and thus the needs for a better system comes in to play. Be it FFXIV or another modern game, people will have to upgrade it's just the way things work when trying to advance the gaming industry. People can't just sit on the system that has run well for 2 years + and fail to update. There is no reason to enter a race on the autoban if you max out at 65km. END OF LINE_ ~V
No MMO is pushing current standards, when it comes to graphics. They simply don't compair to single player games, and that includes FF XIV. No matter the MMO, any lack of FPS is down to simply two things: - 1) A poor gfx/interface design 2) Relience on server side responces. You should not have to spend thousands on a gaming platform, simply based on graphics.
FF XIV also does not advance gaming technology, or mechanics, in anyway.
Yeah, we should all still be able to play this game with just 512MB of RAM! It's just a big money grab!
How dare these game designers make me purchase a decent internet connection! I want to play FFXIV on my old fax modems from 1980! This is an outrage!
And all these fancy dancy graphics.. couldn't SE just figure a way to let me get great resoulution on my 1989 CRT monitor instead of having to buy a new LCD screen???
What's with all these mmo companies "making us" buy new stuff to play their NEW games? I mean, I can still go watch recent movie releases my old VCR machin.. oh wait.
Well, I can text message on my old beepe... hmm...
/end sarcasm
In all seriousness, if you don't want to buy a new rig or UPDATE your old one, you can play something else. No one is "forcing you" to buy anything. People putting this forth is just one of the dumbest. arguments. ever.
So, not only do we have to go out and buy a 1000 dollar system to play this game, or spend hundreds of dollars upgrading our current systems, but they are capping the FPS at 30!!!! That is just rediculous to me. Maybe they should have never released this game on PC and just released on the PS3 if thats what they were originally designing this game for.
Honestly if anyone is going to complain about having to buy a modern gaming system with decent specs to play modern game that is pushing current standards then that party should not be searching for a modern game to play. Techonology advances and thus the needs for a better system comes in to play. Be it FFXIV or another modern game, people will have to upgrade it's just the way things work when trying to advance the gaming industry. People can't just sit on the system that has run well for 2 years + and fail to update. There is no reason to enter a race on the autoban if you max out at 65km.
END OF LINE_
~V
No MMO is pushing current standards, when it comes to graphics. They simply don't compair to single player games, and that includes FF XIV. No matter the MMO, any lack of FPS is down to simply two things: -
1) A poor gfx/interface design
2) Relience on server side responces.
You should not have to spend thousands on a gaming platform, simply based on graphics. FF XIV also does not advance gaming technology, or mechanics, in anyway.
Opinion.
Glad to see you are back though!
Not an opinion. Fact! Wasn't even refering just to FF XIV, other than for the last section.
AoC, GW2 and FF14 look better than some single player console games so......it is your opinion that they do not.
LOL, you are lossing it. What are you playing on a PS2?
So, not only do we have to go out and buy a 1000 dollar system to play this game, or spend hundreds of dollars upgrading our current systems, but they are capping the FPS at 30!!!! That is just rediculous to me. Maybe they should have never released this game on PC and just released on the PS3 if thats what they were originally designing this game for.
Honestly if anyone is going to complain about having to buy a modern gaming system with decent specs to play modern game that is pushing current standards then that party should not be searching for a modern game to play. Techonology advances and thus the needs for a better system comes in to play. Be it FFXIV or another modern game, people will have to upgrade it's just the way things work when trying to advance the gaming industry. People can't just sit on the system that has run well for 2 years + and fail to update. There is no reason to enter a race on the autoban if you max out at 65km.
END OF LINE_
~V
No MMO is pushing current standards, when it comes to graphics. They simply don't compair to single player games, and that includes FF XIV. No matter the MMO, any lack of FPS is down to simply two things: -
1) A poor gfx/interface design
2) Relience on server side responces.
You should not have to spend thousands on a gaming platform, simply based on graphics. FF XIV also does not advance gaming technology, or mechanics, in anyway.
Opinion.
Glad to see you are back though!
Not an opinion. Fact! Wasn't even refering just to FF XIV, other than for the last section.
AoC, GW2 and FF14 look better than some single player console games so......it is your opinion that they do not.
LOL, you are lossing it. What are you playing on a PS2?
So, not only do we have to go out and buy a 1000 dollar system to play this game, or spend hundreds of dollars upgrading our current systems, but they are capping the FPS at 30!!!! That is just rediculous to me. Maybe they should have never released this game on PC and just released on the PS3 if thats what they were originally designing this game for.
Honestly if anyone is going to complain about having to buy a modern gaming system with decent specs to play modern game that is pushing current standards then that party should not be searching for a modern game to play. Techonology advances and thus the needs for a better system comes in to play. Be it FFXIV or another modern game, people will have to upgrade it's just the way things work when trying to advance the gaming industry. People can't just sit on the system that has run well for 2 years + and fail to update. There is no reason to enter a race on the autoban if you max out at 65km.
END OF LINE_
~V
No MMO is pushing current standards, when it comes to graphics. They simply don't compair to single player games, and that includes FF XIV. No matter the MMO, any lack of FPS is down to simply two things: -
1) A poor gfx/interface design
2) Relience on server side responces. You should not have to spend thousands on a gaming platform, simply based on graphics.
FF XIV also does not advance gaming technology, or mechanics, in anyway.
Yeah, we should all still be able to play this game with just 512MB of RAM! It's just a big money grab!
How dare these game designers make me purchase a decent internet connection! I want to play FFXIV on my old fax modems from 1980! This is an outrage!
And all these fancy dancy graphics.. couldn't SE just figure a way to let me get great resoulution on my 1989 CRT monitor instead of having to buy a new LCD screen???
What's with all these mmo companies "making us" buy new stuff to play their NEW games? I mean, I can still go watch recent movie releases my old VCR machin.. oh wait.
Well, I can text message on my old beepe... hmm...
/end sarcasm
In all seriousness, if you don't want to buy a new rig or UPDATE your old one, you can play something else. No one is "forcing you" to buy anything. People putting this forth is just one of the dumbest. arguments. ever.
Actually I have a high spec rig, and can play FF XIV maxed out. However in comparion to other games, of much higher graphical standard, its a joke when its comes to FPS per $.
I play with both a keyboard/mouse setup as well as a controller. I test with both. beta 3 actually broke a few things for the controller. I have done my due diligence and have made over 54 feedback posts in the respected places.
So, not only do we have to go out and buy a 1000 dollar system to play this game, or spend hundreds of dollars upgrading our current systems, but they are capping the FPS at 30!!!! That is just rediculous to me. Maybe they should have never released this game on PC and just released on the PS3 if thats what they were originally designing this game for.
Honestly if anyone is going to complain about having to buy a modern gaming system with decent specs to play modern game that is pushing current standards then that party should not be searching for a modern game to play. Techonology advances and thus the needs for a better system comes in to play. Be it FFXIV or another modern game, people will have to upgrade it's just the way things work when trying to advance the gaming industry. People can't just sit on the system that has run well for 2 years + and fail to update. There is no reason to enter a race on the autoban if you max out at 65km.
END OF LINE_
~V
No MMO is pushing current standards, when it comes to graphics. They simply don't compair to single player games, and that includes FF XIV. No matter the MMO, any lack of FPS is down to simply two things: -
1) A poor gfx/interface design
2) Relience on server side responces. You should not have to spend thousands on a gaming platform, simply based on graphics.
FF XIV also does not advance gaming technology, or mechanics, in anyway.
Yeah, we should all still be able to play this game with just 512MB of RAM! It's just a big money grab!
How dare these game designers make me purchase a decent internet connection! I want to play FFXIV on my old fax modems from 1980! This is an outrage!
And all these fancy dancy graphics.. couldn't SE just figure a way to let me get great resoulution on my 1989 CRT monitor instead of having to buy a new LCD screen???
What's with all these mmo companies "making us" buy new stuff to play their NEW games? I mean, I can still go watch recent movie releases my old VCR machin.. oh wait.
Well, I can text message on my old beepe... hmm...
/end sarcasm
In all seriousness, if you don't want to buy a new rig or UPDATE your old one, you can play something else. No one is "forcing you" to buy anything. People putting this forth is just one of the dumbest. arguments. ever.
Actually I have a high spec rig, and can play FF XIV maxed out. However in comparion to other games, of much higher graphical standard, its a joke when its comes to FPS per $.
Im just wondering , when people say that the core mechanics of the game dont work , do they mean that they dont like the design ?? and if they dont , it means the game is broken?? what about everyone else who likes the way it is?
Its as Bhronn says, everything they've implemented is over complicated, and seems to hinder more than making the game fun.
The design is also fundamently outdated, i.e. its a step backwards in MMO design. I dare say we'll here more about this, once the NDA is fully lifted.
Do you mean by the controls/ui? I dont understand where the idea it is complicated is coming from, the control scheme is different and some non combat actions are accessed through the menu somewhat like XI I believe, since the mouse doesn't appear to be context sensitive about anything, but i'm not sure where the idea it's hindering other than it's not very friendly to use with a mouse?
Same with design, im still confused as to what exactly about the design is causing issues?
The input lag is definently a problem but thats the sort of thing expected during a beta, and one that should be fixed by or at the very latest shortly after release.
Actually the controls are now like any typical MMO, so they have been improved. They are still however extrememely sluggish, which is likely to be addressed.
People are simply focusing on such comments, as they are easy for fanbois to defend by the "its beta" responces. There is a hell of a lot more people are complaining about, relating to game features (i.e. core mechanics). Once the NDA is fully lifted they'll be able to go into further details.
At this time, the best thing SE could do is to push the game back and re-engineer/design the core (gameplay) mechanics and features.
Im just wondering , when people say that the core mechanics of the game dont work , do they mean that they dont like the design ?? and if they dont , it means the game is broken?? what about everyone else who likes the way it is?
Its as Bhronn says, everything they've implemented is over complicated, and seems to hinder more than making the game fun.
The design is also fundamently outdated, i.e. its a step backwards in MMO design. I dare say we'll here more about this, once the NDA is fully lifted.
Do you mean by the controls/ui? I dont understand where the idea it is complicated is coming from, the control scheme is different and some non combat actions are accessed through the menu somewhat like XI I believe, since the mouse doesn't appear to be context sensitive about anything, but i'm not sure where the idea it's hindering other than it's not very friendly to use with a mouse?
Same with design, im still confused as to what exactly about the design is causing issues?
The input lag is definently a problem but thats the sort of thing expected during a beta, and one that should be fixed by or at the very latest shortly after release.
Ive reread the updated NDA and honestly cant say anything more than what i have said. Some things can be fixed, some cant. The things that cant be fixed are going to be a headache to SE and the gamer for FFXIV's whole life. Each person who buys it will have to decide if its a deal breaker or not.
What I have posted tho no on has been able to refute because thats the no thrills way the game is now. Maybe itll get better maybe it wont but people were asking .. and still are... about how the game is now.
Its beta.. yes
Are things buggy.. yes
everything else is conjecture and opinion. mine is that I wont be buying the game from a tester and long time XI and MMO player.
edit: I dont test games or beta test with hate or love. To me I go into a game and begin testing each part on its own merits. I put in my feedback and go on to the next test. I am not there to get a preview.
At this time, the best thing SE could do is to push the game back and re-engineer/design the core (gameplay) mechanics and features.
But what about them are causing issues/need to be changed?
Is there something paricularly wrong with say combat, or something?
I think someone said Guildleve's get canceled upon a d/c, that's something that should probably be fixed, but other than that I haven't heard about any problems with features/mechanics themselves
Im just wondering , when people say that the core mechanics of the game dont work , do they mean that they dont like the design ?? and if they dont , it means the game is broken?? what about everyone else who likes the way it is?
Its as Bhronn says, everything they've implemented is over complicated, and seems to hinder more than making the game fun.
The design is also fundamently outdated, i.e. its a step backwards in MMO design. I dare say we'll here more about this, once the NDA is fully lifted.
Do you mean by the controls/ui? I dont understand where the idea it is complicated is coming from, the control scheme is different and some non combat actions are accessed through the menu somewhat like XI I believe, since the mouse doesn't appear to be context sensitive about anything, but i'm not sure where the idea it's hindering other than it's not very friendly to use with a mouse?
Same with design, im still confused as to what exactly about the design is causing issues?
The input lag is definently a problem but thats the sort of thing expected during a beta, and one that should be fixed by or at the very latest shortly after release.
Ive reread the updated NDA and honestly cant say anything more than what i have said. Some things can be fixed, some cant. The things that cant be fixed are going to be a headache to SE and the gamer for FFXIV's whole life. Each person who buys it will have to decide if its a deal breaker or not.
What I have posted tho no on has been able to refute because thats the no thrills way the game is now. Maybe itll get better maybe it wont but people were asking .. and still are... about how the game is now.
Its beta.. yes
Are things buggy.. yes
everything else is conjecture and opinion. mine is that I wont be buying the game from a tester and long time XI and MMO player.
I'm pretty sure the recent NDA lift allows you to talk about the game now and even show screenshots if you have any, i think video's and apparently music are still not allowed
No one can refute what your saying because you said yourself you don't think you can talk about it/haven't stated completely what the issues are.
Thus you aren't giving us as much information as I think you could, other than you think the game is buggy somehow =
The more I read about UI and beta, the more it seems it is very similar to FFXI. I had issues with FFXI but it was more about getting used to the controls/ui rather than it being "Broken."
A lot of beta testers maybe didn't play FFXI let alone an MMO using a controller. Because it feels SOOOO different, they choose to characterize the ui as "broken."
Yes, maybe it could be streamlined, but it seems that SE is in a catch 22. They need to design a game that works as well on the PS3 as it does on the PC. I would think it's easy to make the UI feel more like modern mmo's on the PC but that becomes an impossibility on the PS3.
SE realizes that the PS3 users (which will be majority of users in Japan) will use a controller. In that regard, you can't have any competitive advantage over PS3 users if you choose to use the PC.
It's not a matter of getting the UI to be like Wow or any other mmo, it's an issue of making the UI "better" for PC Keyboard users AND PS3 controller users. It will NEVER be perfect because SE will not sacrifice one over the other.
People just need to accept the UI as is, or find another game. I really don't know what other drastic changes SE can possible make, especially at this point in development.
Well said Hrayr2148
SE can not act like the issues pc users are having with the UI is a suprise to them. Cause the same pc user had the same issues with FFXI. SE has had years to work out a better solution
Let's say SE implements the same type of UI's as modern mmo with mouse and keyboard, thus making the mouse/keyboard 20% more efficient than using a controller. For example, you can click on an npc using your mouse versus scrolling npc using controller.
By doing this, SE screws over controller users (which are a far higher proportion of the users in Japan). Some of you argue, "Then just get a keyboard and mouse for your PS3." Which begs the question, when ever buy the game for PS3 if you already have a keyboard/mouse on the PC.
Some of you don't understand SE's vision of the game. They want everyone in the world ot play on the same servers, whether using PC or PS3, whether using keyboard/mouse or a controller. The game has to work equally well for all.
SE does nothing by improving one at the expense of another. All players must feel that they are equally accessing the game regardless of the instruments they're using.
SO NO, it is not as easy as making the keyboard/mouse UI just like any other mmo.
Actually I have a high spec rig, and can play FF XIV maxed out. However in comparion to other games, of much higher graphical standard, its a joke when its comes to FPS per $.
Not directed at you personally, was more of a blanket.
The whole "I don't want to buy a new computer" argument isn't valid simply because if you don't want to.. then don't. (others)
If someone wanted to play this game but their computer is not up to par, they would get it updated because everygame is having these kind of standards nowadays. Look at what's coming down the line and it's plain as day.
If anyone with a 1990 computer wants to stay in the MMO genre, they need to update, plain and simple.
UNLESS they are sticking to WoW and other low resolution/GPU minimally intensive games like browsers or F2P games.
Comments
LOL glad to see you are back! Keep up the good comments.
Im just wondering , when people say that the core mechanics of the game dont work , do they mean that they dont like the design ?? and if they dont , it means the game is broken?? what about everyone else who likes the way it is?
The more I read about UI and beta, the more it seems it is very similar to FFXI. I had issues with FFXI but it was more about getting used to the controls/ui rather than it being "Broken."
A lot of beta testers maybe didn't play FFXI let alone an MMO using a controller. Because it feels SOOOO different, they choose to characterize the ui as "broken."
Yes, maybe it could be streamlined, but it seems that SE is in a catch 22. They need to design a game that works as well on the PS3 as it does on the PC. I would think it's easy to make the UI feel more like modern mmo's on the PC but that becomes an impossibility on the PS3.
SE realizes that the PS3 users (which will be majority of users in Japan) will use a controller. In that regard, you can't have any competitive advantage over PS3 users if you choose to use the PC.
It's not a matter of getting the UI to be like Wow or any other mmo, it's an issue of making the UI "better" for PC Keyboard users AND PS3 controller users. It will NEVER be perfect because SE will not sacrifice one over the other.
People just need to accept the UI as is, or find another game. I really don't know what other drastic changes SE can possible make, especially at this point in development.
Not an opinion. Fact! Wasn't even refering just to FF XIV, other than for the last section.
Well said Hrayr2148
AoC, GW2 and FF14 look better than some single player console games so......it is your opinion that they do not.
Its as Bhronn says, everything they've implemented is over complicated, and seems to hinder more than making the game fun.
The design is also fundamently outdated, i.e. its a step backwards in MMO design. I dare say we'll here more about this, once the NDA is fully lifted.
NO! Grapevine and Brohnn say it is flawed that means it is! Duhhh
END OF LINE_
~V
No MMO is pushing current standards, when it comes to graphics. They simply don't compair to single player games, and that includes FF XIV. No matter the MMO, any lack of FPS is down to simply two things: -
1) A poor gfx/interface design
2) Relience on server side responces. You should not have to spend thousands on a gaming platform, simply based on graphics.
FF XIV also does not advance gaming technology, or mechanics, in anyway.
Yeah, we should all still be able to play this game with just 512MB of RAM! It's just a big money grab!
How dare these game designers make me purchase a decent internet connection! I want to play FFXIV on my old fax modems from 1980! This is an outrage!
And all these fancy dancy graphics.. couldn't SE just figure a way to let me get great resoulution on my 1989 CRT monitor instead of having to buy a new LCD screen???
What's with all these mmo companies "making us" buy new stuff to play their NEW games? I mean, I can still go watch recent movie releases my old VCR machin.. oh wait.
Well, I can text message on my old beepe... hmm...
/end sarcasm
In all seriousness, if you don't want to buy a new rig or UPDATE your old one, you can play something else. No one is "forcing you" to buy anything. People putting this forth is just one of the dumbest. arguments. ever.
"TO MICHAEL!"
LOL, you are lossing it. What are you playing on a PS2?
Actually I have a high spec rig, and can play FF XIV maxed out. However in comparion to other games, of much higher graphical standard, its a joke when its comes to FPS per $.
I play with both a keyboard/mouse setup as well as a controller. I test with both. beta 3 actually broke a few things for the controller. I have done my due diligence and have made over 54 feedback posts in the respected places.
BETA
Waldoe, you are in a dream land if you think any MMO (no matter the platform) lives up to the standard of a modern game when it comes to graphics.
You are also deluding youself, if you honestly believe they are going to overhaul their gfx engine before launch.
Do you mean by the controls/ui? I dont understand where the idea it is complicated is coming from, the control scheme is different and some non combat actions are accessed through the menu somewhat like XI I believe, since the mouse doesn't appear to be context sensitive about anything, but i'm not sure where the idea it's hindering other than it's not very friendly to use with a mouse?
Same with design, im still confused as to what exactly about the design is causing issues?
The input lag is definently a problem but thats the sort of thing expected during a beta, and one that should be fixed by or at the very latest shortly after release.
Actually the controls are now like any typical MMO, so they have been improved. They are still however extrememely sluggish, which is likely to be addressed.
People are simply focusing on such comments, as they are easy for fanbois to defend by the "its beta" responces. There is a hell of a lot more people are complaining about, relating to game features (i.e. core mechanics). Once the NDA is fully lifted they'll be able to go into further details.
At this time, the best thing SE could do is to push the game back and re-engineer/design the core (gameplay) mechanics and features.
Ive reread the updated NDA and honestly cant say anything more than what i have said. Some things can be fixed, some cant. The things that cant be fixed are going to be a headache to SE and the gamer for FFXIV's whole life. Each person who buys it will have to decide if its a deal breaker or not.
What I have posted tho no on has been able to refute because thats the no thrills way the game is now. Maybe itll get better maybe it wont but people were asking .. and still are... about how the game is now.
Its beta.. yes
Are things buggy.. yes
everything else is conjecture and opinion. mine is that I wont be buying the game from a tester and long time XI and MMO player.
edit: I dont test games or beta test with hate or love. To me I go into a game and begin testing each part on its own merits. I put in my feedback and go on to the next test. I am not there to get a preview.
But what about them are causing issues/need to be changed?
Is there something paricularly wrong with say combat, or something?
I think someone said Guildleve's get canceled upon a d/c, that's something that should probably be fixed, but other than that I haven't heard about any problems with features/mechanics themselves
Only because people still aren't sure about how much they can actually say.
There is no need to what so ever so idk what you are talking about.
I'm pretty sure the recent NDA lift allows you to talk about the game now and even show screenshots if you have any, i think video's and apparently music are still not allowed
No one can refute what your saying because you said yourself you don't think you can talk about it/haven't stated completely what the issues are.
Thus you aren't giving us as much information as I think you could, other than you think the game is buggy somehow =
SE can not act like the issues pc users are having with the UI is a suprise to them. Cause the same pc user had the same issues with FFXI. SE has had years to work out a better solution
Let's say SE implements the same type of UI's as modern mmo with mouse and keyboard, thus making the mouse/keyboard 20% more efficient than using a controller. For example, you can click on an npc using your mouse versus scrolling npc using controller.
By doing this, SE screws over controller users (which are a far higher proportion of the users in Japan). Some of you argue, "Then just get a keyboard and mouse for your PS3." Which begs the question, when ever buy the game for PS3 if you already have a keyboard/mouse on the PC.
Some of you don't understand SE's vision of the game. They want everyone in the world ot play on the same servers, whether using PC or PS3, whether using keyboard/mouse or a controller. The game has to work equally well for all.
SE does nothing by improving one at the expense of another. All players must feel that they are equally accessing the game regardless of the instruments they're using.
SO NO, it is not as easy as making the keyboard/mouse UI just like any other mmo.
Not directed at you personally, was more of a blanket.
The whole "I don't want to buy a new computer" argument isn't valid simply because if you don't want to.. then don't. (others)
If someone wanted to play this game but their computer is not up to par, they would get it updated because everygame is having these kind of standards nowadays. Look at what's coming down the line and it's plain as day.
If anyone with a 1990 computer wants to stay in the MMO genre, they need to update, plain and simple.
UNLESS they are sticking to WoW and other low resolution/GPU minimally intensive games like browsers or F2P games.
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