Good God. A 9600 with 512 mb ram cant play this game? Thats criminal. The cards may not be new, but theyre not exactly a trident 9550. These cards are still on the market and run most modern games without difficultiy. Thats pretty absurd to say that a major marketshare card would be incapable of running this software. Crysis can run on full medium settings on a 9600 without much difficulty. I hardly think these graphics are Crysis quality.
Im sporting a 5770 1GB card. Im satisfied with it -- the hardware should last a good 2 years. This game is too ambitious, and wants to dip too far into its players wallets to get started. No thanks.
A 9600 should play it at low settings...whats killing you is the 512 ram....thats super low for todays standards. If you are mad that your pc is too old or out dated then you should play a game a little less graphic intense...or buy a new machine...its not that they have jumped up so fast in requirements that people havn't had time to upgrade.
Way to skim the post there! Im not mad at all. My rig would have zero problem running this game. 5770 with phenom quad core running at 2.83ghz, 8GB RAM, and a few TB free. This isnt about me. This is about developers wanting you to upgrade your hardware for every major new release that pops out. Fans are going to end up shelling out hundreds, possibly even thousands per household to try to play this game when its needs could have been accomplished on a system with far less horsepower if the code were properly optimized.
In my eyes thats called fleecing the public.
Developers are always going to try and push the envelope to an extent. It makes good business sense. If the technology is out there and is being used so that they can create and produce a high quality gaming experience over some of the other competitors than that is what they are going to do. It also will give the game a longer life span within the computer gaming industry. We all know that once games look " Out dated" that people will eventually move on for the most part.
There are also two sides to these arguements. Your side being that you think that devs purposely create games to make you buy more hardware... I am yet to see the logic in this statement by the way as devs of software based video games do not make more or less money if you have to rebuild or buy a new machine.
There also is another side like myself. A gamer that has put in his time and money to already have a machine that is prepared for the latest and greatest and would like to see a mixture of both great game play and immense graphics.
I may could understand the ability to turn graphics down extremely low for the people that do not have high end machines...but you can't expect companys to continue to use aged graphic engines just because you are broke. Go buy a console if PC upgrades are going to be a problem for you. It is apart of it.
Code not properly optimized huh....well since you happen to have it nailed on the head and know the problem already why not go marching up to their office and fix it for them..... what a load of garbage
And to the other guy that said that the " Dual core is whats killing it. " FYI, dual cores are old and even the crappiest computer at walmart has one. If you are still running a single core and expecting to play the newest games...then think again.
Good God. A 9600 with 512 mb ram cant play this game? Thats criminal. The cards may not be new, but theyre not exactly a trident 9550. These cards are still on the market and run most modern games without difficultiy. Thats pretty absurd to say that a major marketshare card would be incapable of running this software. Crysis can run on full medium settings on a 9600 without much difficulty. I hardly think these graphics are Crysis quality.
Im sporting a 5770 1GB card. Im satisfied with it -- the hardware should last a good 2 years. This game is too ambitious, and wants to dip too far into its players wallets to get started. No thanks.
A 9600 should play it at low settings...whats killing you is the 512 ram....thats super low for todays standards. If you are mad that your pc is too old or out dated then you should play a game a little less graphic intense...or buy a new machine...its not that they have jumped up so fast in requirements that people havn't had time to upgrade.
Way to skim the post there! Im not mad at all. My rig would have zero problem running this game. 5770 with phenom quad core running at 2.83ghz, 8GB RAM, and a few TB free. This isnt about me. This is about developers wanting you to upgrade your hardware for every major new release that pops out. Fans are going to end up shelling out hundreds, possibly even thousands per household to try to play this game when its needs could have been accomplished on a system with far less horsepower if the code were properly optimized.
In my eyes thats called fleecing the public.
Developers are always going to try and push the envelope to an extent. It makes good business sense. If the technology is out there and is being used so that they can create and produce a high quality gaming experience over some of the other competitors than that is what they are going to do. It also will give the game a longer life span within the computer gaming industry. We all know that once games look " Out dated" that people will eventually move on for the most part.
There are also two sides to these arguements. Your side being that you think that devs purposely create games to make you buy more hardware... I am yet to see the logic in this statement by the way as devs of software based video games do not make more or less money if you have to rebuild or buy a new machine.
There also is another side like myself. A gamer that has put in his time and money to already have a machine that is prepared for the latest and greatest and would like to see a mixture of both great game play and immense graphics.
I may could understand the ability to turn graphics down extremely low for the people that do not have high end machines...but you can't expect companys to continue to use aged graphic engines just because you are broke. Go buy a console if PC upgrades are going to be a problem for you. It is apart of it.
Code not properly optimized huh....well since you happen to have it nailed on the head and know the problem already why not go marching up to their office and fix it for them..... what a load of garbage
And to the other guy that said that the " Dual core is whats killing it. " FYI, dual cores are old and even the crappiest computer at walmart has one. If you are still running a single core and expecting to play the newest games...then think again.
Most intelligent developers are smart enough to make their games playable on the largest number of systems, even if that means turning down the settings. We CANT expect companys to continue to use aged graphic engines just because we are broke. We DO expect it, and the majority of them do it.
Those are low minimum specs and most computers right now at best buy far exceed even those specifications if you buy one with a dedicated video card already inside. " Which are HD4600s" if its one of the HP brand desktops.
My point here is that most of the MMO playerbase I would say DOES have these specs met or even much higher. My laptop almost meets these specs with the exemption of the vid card.
I mean what do you people expect ? Minimum requirements so you can play it on your netbook?
Here is a computer at Bestbuy that would run this game...and its pretty cheap. If you built this sort of pc it would be about two thirds this price if from NewEgg.
Those are low minimum specs and most computers right now at best buy far exceed even those specifications if you buy one with a dedicated video card already inside. " Which are HD4600s" if its one of the HP brand desktops.
My point here is that most of the MMO playerbase I would say DOES have these specs met or even much higher. My laptop almost meets these specs with the exemption of the vid card.
I mean what do you people expect ? Minimum requirements so you can play it on your netbook?
Here is a computer at Bestbuy that would run this game...and its pretty cheap. If you built this sort of pc it would be about two thirds this price if from NewEgg.
Those are low minimum specs and most computers right now at best buy far exceed even those specifications if you buy one with a dedicated video card already inside. " Which are HD4600s" if its one of the HP brand desktops.
My point here is that most of the MMO playerbase I would say DOES have these specs met or even much higher. My laptop almost meets these specs with the exemption of the vid card.
I mean what do you people expect ? Minimum requirements so you can play it on your netbook?
Here is a computer at Bestbuy that would run this game...and its pretty cheap. If you built this sort of pc it would be about two thirds this price if from NewEgg.
But devs cannot, and do not generally, expect people to go out and buy a computer every time a new game comes out.
Minimum requirements to play on a netbook? Not really. But a laptop with onboard graphics? Yes, that's what I expect.
I guess the one thing to remember, as far as SE games go is that, their mass gamerbase is going to use a console. All PS3's have the same configurations so developing a game for cross platforms is much tricker. Then you add in the many different configurations of PC's, it compounds that again. I know that the release of the PS3 version in 2011 is due to the game as it stands now in PC version being too much for the PS3 so I am sure we will see the min and max requirements downgraded.
Apparently you need a registration code sent to your email? how many of you guys have not gotten it and have or are currently downloading the OB Client? I am tempted to download it but what if that code never arrives? hmm
Apparently you need a registration code sent to your email? how many of you guys have not gotten it and have or are currently downloading the OB Client? I am tempted to download it but what if that code never arrives? hmm
i beleave everyone will get a key it just a question of "when" OB is not going end soon they want build hype they mit do that by limting keys an giveing more each day or just mit have get lucky fighting the 10000 people for a key trying register on thier site
Good God. A 9600 with 512 mb ram cant play this game? Thats criminal. The cards may not be new, but theyre not exactly a trident 9550. These cards are still on the market and run most modern games without difficultiy. Thats pretty absurd to say that a major marketshare card would be incapable of running this software. Crysis can run on full medium settings on a 9600 without much difficulty. I hardly think these graphics are Crysis quality.
Im sporting a 5770 1GB card. Im satisfied with it -- the hardware should last a good 2 years. This game is too ambitious, and wants to dip too far into its players wallets to get started. No thanks.
Also as one other had already mentioned, 512Mb RAM is way too low.
512 ram in a vid card is plenty, this is separate from system ram. Know what you are talking about before posting.
Nobody calls a Video Card memory "RAM". By doing so, you are implying that you are talking about your System Memory. The term to use is "VRAM" to distinguish id from System RAM.
I think the technological point being made is that this game is only going to be run on top-end gaming desktops at this point. That's all well and good, but I'm pretty sure you're giong to exclude 80-90% of MMO gamers out there right now in doing so.
Feel free to denigrate those who don't really see a reason to shell out another $2,000 just to play a particular video game , but that's not going to convince anyone to try the game considering they're probably already playing at least one or two that currently run just fine on their non-hard-core setup.
80%-90% that is perfect, need to keep the community as tight-nit as possible.
$2000? I have a 3 year old computer I spent $1000 on (which you can probably get for around $600 now) that will run this game on max.
Good God. A 9600 with 512 mb ram cant play this game? Thats criminal. The cards may not be new, but theyre not exactly a trident 9550. These cards are still on the market and run most modern games without difficultiy. Thats pretty absurd to say that a major marketshare card would be incapable of running this software. Crysis can run on full medium settings on a 9600 without much difficulty. I hardly think these graphics are Crysis quality.
Im sporting a 5770 1GB card. Im satisfied with it -- the hardware should last a good 2 years. This game is too ambitious, and wants to dip too far into its players wallets to get started. No thanks.
Also as one other had already mentioned, 512Mb RAM is way too low.
512 ram in a vid card is plenty, this is separate from system ram. Know what you are talking about before posting.
Nobody calls a Video Card memory "RAM". By doing so, you are implying that you are talking about your System Memory. The term to use is "VRAM" to distinguish id from System RAM.
So yes I do know what I'm talking about.
I call it just RAM most of the time... really I don't see many adding the V to it all that often.
Technically correct but really not used that much, by most people.
Good God. A 9600 with 512 mb ram cant play this game? Thats criminal. The cards may not be new, but theyre not exactly a trident 9550. These cards are still on the market and run most modern games without difficultiy. Thats pretty absurd to say that a major marketshare card would be incapable of running this software. Crysis can run on full medium settings on a 9600 without much difficulty. I hardly think these graphics are Crysis quality.
Im sporting a 5770 1GB card. Im satisfied with it -- the hardware should last a good 2 years. This game is too ambitious, and wants to dip too far into its players wallets to get started. No thanks.
Also as one other had already mentioned, 512Mb RAM is way too low.
512 ram in a vid card is plenty, this is separate from system ram. Know what you are talking about before posting.
Nobody calls a Video Card memory "RAM". By doing so, you are implying that you are talking about your System Memory. The term to use is "VRAM" to distinguish id from System RAM.
So yes I do know what I'm talking about.
I call it just RAM most of the time... really I don't see many adding the V to it all that often.
Technically correct but really not used that much, by most people.
nobody I know bothers to call it VRAM. The only reason anyone would insist on it is if they are trying to be a pain in the ass, or trying to divert attention during a losing argument.
Good God. A 9600 with 512 mb ram cant play this game? Thats criminal. The cards may not be new, but theyre not exactly a trident 9550. These cards are still on the market and run most modern games without difficultiy. Thats pretty absurd to say that a major marketshare card would be incapable of running this software. Crysis can run on full medium settings on a 9600 without much difficulty. I hardly think these graphics are Crysis quality.
Im sporting a 5770 1GB card. Im satisfied with it -- the hardware should last a good 2 years. This game is too ambitious, and wants to dip too far into its players wallets to get started. No thanks.
A 9600 should play it at low settings...whats killing you is the 512 ram....thats super low for todays standards. If you are mad that your pc is too old or out dated then you should play a game a little less graphic intense...or buy a new machine...its not that they have jumped up so fast in requirements that people havn't had time to upgrade.
Better graphics = better computers to run them....its always been that way.
The requirements are not high at all.
Dual Core @ 2.0ghz
2gb of ram
9600 nvidia or a Radeon HD2900 or better
15gb HD space
Thats low in my eyees.
ummmm you cant PLAY the game at all with that lol. u can just RUN it.
Hmmm, ok, so you get this from Best Buy for $650, move your vid card into it and you got yourself that $2000 machine the other was saying you had to have to run this game. Or, you can buy this and spend abotu $250 more to get a REALLY good vid card to make it run even better, and still under half what that other guy claims you need to spend.
Oh and your dual core 3GHz, thats what 2 or 3 year old tech? Seriously, just because someone wants to make a games graphics come closer to what the actually technology is running at NOW.... You do know we are putting Dual Core processors in cell phones now right??
Oh well, guess I'm not an 'average gamer' with my 1 year old rig that can run this game just fine. And mine cost me less than $1000 when I got it.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
nobody I know bothers to call it VRAM. The only reason anyone would insist on it is if they are trying to be a pain in the ass, or trying to divert attention during a losing argument.
Actually, vram is a very commonly used term. Everyone I know that uses their computer for more than checking email makes the distinction, because it serves a very different funtion than system memory, and computers are getting pretty beefy with both. However, in almost all cases vram is much lower than system memory, so if you have both numbers it's easy to make a distinction between the two.
Actually, vram is a very commonly used term. Everyone I know that uses their computer for more than checking email makes the distinction, because it serves a very different funtion than system memory, and computers are getting pretty beefy with both. However, in almost all cases vram is much lower than system memory, so if you have both numbers it's easy to make a distinction between the two.
Indeed, it is extremely common in fact.
Making a blanket statement like "The only reason anyone would insist on it is if they are trying to be a pain in the ass, or trying to divert attention during a losing argument." is absolutely ridiculous.
Most people I know, who have at the very least a basic amount of knowledge with computer hardware, tend to use the proper terms. All RAM is not the same, so why would you call VRAM something other than what it is? That would be like calling a GPU a CPU, sure they serve similar functions, but are two very different beasts.
since i am retarded , can someone tell me when the beta starts and how do i get in it ? and yes i know someone probably has asked this so sorry for asking again
since i am retarded , can someone tell me when the beta starts and how do i get in it ? and yes i know someone probably has asked this so sorry for asking again
It starts in a couple of hours, you get in by going to their site and getting a code, which won't be available for a couple of hours.
since i am retarded , can someone tell me when the beta starts and how do i get in it ? and yes i know someone probably has asked this so sorry for asking again
Why don't you just scan the other pages within this thread?
There are numerous references to the information you seek, why not invest the minor amount of time required to dig that info up yourself?
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Developers are always going to try and push the envelope to an extent. It makes good business sense. If the technology is out there and is being used so that they can create and produce a high quality gaming experience over some of the other competitors than that is what they are going to do. It also will give the game a longer life span within the computer gaming industry. We all know that once games look " Out dated" that people will eventually move on for the most part.
There are also two sides to these arguements. Your side being that you think that devs purposely create games to make you buy more hardware... I am yet to see the logic in this statement by the way as devs of software based video games do not make more or less money if you have to rebuild or buy a new machine.
There also is another side like myself. A gamer that has put in his time and money to already have a machine that is prepared for the latest and greatest and would like to see a mixture of both great game play and immense graphics.
I may could understand the ability to turn graphics down extremely low for the people that do not have high end machines...but you can't expect companys to continue to use aged graphic engines just because you are broke. Go buy a console if PC upgrades are going to be a problem for you. It is apart of it.
Code not properly optimized huh....well since you happen to have it nailed on the head and know the problem already why not go marching up to their office and fix it for them..... what a load of garbage
And to the other guy that said that the " Dual core is whats killing it. " FYI, dual cores are old and even the crappiest computer at walmart has one. If you are still running a single core and expecting to play the newest games...then think again.
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Most intelligent developers are smart enough to make their games playable on the largest number of systems, even if that means turning down the settings. We CANT expect companys to continue to use aged graphic engines just because we are broke. We DO expect it, and the majority of them do it.
It runs on 9600 gt, barely... but good enough to last until I have $200 for that EVGA GTX460 I'm eyeing on newegg
Just shutters alot when moving, more so in the cities... but still playable.
2.0ghz dual core
2gig of ram
HD2900+ or a 9600 +
15gigs of HD space
Those are low minimum specs and most computers right now at best buy far exceed even those specifications if you buy one with a dedicated video card already inside. " Which are HD4600s" if its one of the HP brand desktops.
My point here is that most of the MMO playerbase I would say DOES have these specs met or even much higher. My laptop almost meets these specs with the exemption of the vid card.
I mean what do you people expect ? Minimum requirements so you can play it on your netbook?
Here is a computer at Bestbuy that would run this game...and its pretty cheap. If you built this sort of pc it would be about two thirds this price if from NewEgg.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+Pavilion+Desktop+/+AMD+Athlon%26%23153%3B+II+Processor+/+6GB+Memory+/+1TB+Hard+Drive/9971758.p?id=1218202945679&skuId=9971758
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2x 2 Tb Hard Drives
But devs cannot, and do not generally, expect people to go out and buy a computer every time a new game comes out.
Minimum requirements to play on a netbook? Not really. But a laptop with onboard graphics? Yes, that's what I expect.
Brilliant! Was just assuming it would be an AM time and din't look closely at the times
Thanks!
I guess the one thing to remember, as far as SE games go is that, their mass gamerbase is going to use a console. All PS3's have the same configurations so developing a game for cross platforms is much tricker. Then you add in the many different configurations of PC's, it compounds that again. I know that the release of the PS3 version in 2011 is due to the game as it stands now in PC version being too much for the PS3 so I am sure we will see the min and max requirements downgraded.
I know sorry but 15 gb ram
another PC game that demands an upgrade eh? old news really.. but no thanks.. i'll pass and wait for console version..
Apparently you need a registration code sent to your email? how many of you guys have not gotten it and have or are currently downloading the OB Client? I am tempted to download it but what if that code never arrives? hmm
Open Beta Key's will be handed out on the FFXVI website. You just need to visit the site tonight when the open beta starts to get a key.
Great, thanks for the info.
i beleave everyone will get a key it just a question of "when" OB is not going end soon they want build hype they mit do that by limting keys an giveing more each day or just mit have get lucky fighting the 10000 people for a key trying register on thier site
Nobody calls a Video Card memory "RAM". By doing so, you are implying that you are talking about your System Memory. The term to use is "VRAM" to distinguish id from System RAM.
So yes I do know what I'm talking about.
Ready for GW2!!!
My Core 2 Duo 3GHZ + 8800GTS video card + 4Gigs DDR2 can't run FFXIV.
This game had a lot of promise too bad they went overboard with the graphics and pushed the system specs beyond the reach of your average gamer.
80%-90% that is perfect, need to keep the community as tight-nit as possible.
$2000? I have a 3 year old computer I spent $1000 on (which you can probably get for around $600 now) that will run this game on max.
I call it just RAM most of the time... really I don't see many adding the V to it all that often.
Technically correct but really not used that much, by most people.
nobody I know bothers to call it VRAM. The only reason anyone would insist on it is if they are trying to be a pain in the ass, or trying to divert attention during a losing argument.
ummmm you cant PLAY the game at all with that lol. u can just RUN it.
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Hmmm, ok, so you get this from Best Buy for $650, move your vid card into it and you got yourself that $2000 machine the other was saying you had to have to run this game. Or, you can buy this and spend abotu $250 more to get a REALLY good vid card to make it run even better, and still under half what that other guy claims you need to spend.
Oh and your dual core 3GHz, thats what 2 or 3 year old tech? Seriously, just because someone wants to make a games graphics come closer to what the actually technology is running at NOW.... You do know we are putting Dual Core processors in cell phones now right??
Oh well, guess I'm not an 'average gamer' with my 1 year old rig that can run this game just fine. And mine cost me less than $1000 when I got it.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
Actually, vram is a very commonly used term. Everyone I know that uses their computer for more than checking email makes the distinction, because it serves a very different funtion than system memory, and computers are getting pretty beefy with both. However, in almost all cases vram is much lower than system memory, so if you have both numbers it's easy to make a distinction between the two.
Indeed, it is extremely common in fact.
Making a blanket statement like "The only reason anyone would insist on it is if they are trying to be a pain in the ass, or trying to divert attention during a losing argument." is absolutely ridiculous.
Most people I know, who have at the very least a basic amount of knowledge with computer hardware, tend to use the proper terms. All RAM is not the same, so why would you call VRAM something other than what it is? That would be like calling a GPU a CPU, sure they serve similar functions, but are two very different beasts.
since i am retarded , can someone tell me when the beta starts and how do i get in it ? and yes i know someone probably has asked this so sorry for asking again
It starts in a couple of hours, you get in by going to their site and getting a code, which won't be available for a couple of hours.
Why don't you just scan the other pages within this thread?
There are numerous references to the information you seek, why not invest the minor amount of time required to dig that info up yourself?
No, you are not retarded, you are just lazy :P