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8.70. Now this is officially the WoW-Killer! *Frequently updated*
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I dont like ppl who want to kill MMO's. It is so bloody selfish to think that way. If you don't understand why, don't bother to ask either.
Haha true that. I guess some people only find certain game fun if other falls at the same time.
Afterall, what kind of issue is whether wow is or isn't for those who will enjoy tor/gw2 and have nothing to do with former.
This again? *yawn*
While I hope for the success of Guild wars 2 due to the pricing model and a general liking of Arenanet, calling something a "wow killer" is the surest way to disappointment.
Hype means absolutely nothing.
Just look at the 'Released' section. Wow is nowhere in sight yet its holds the largest market share in the MMO industry.
Better to be crazy, provided you know what sane is...
Hype mean something, it means that the game will be noticed from launch and that it will sell fine the first month.
Wow was hyped before launch as well, because Blizzard made it and they were famous for Diablo, Starcraft and Warcraft 3.
If someone else than Blizzard would have done it the game would probably have sold less or at least taken longer to become big.
A month after launch starts the true trials of course and you see if the game can keep the subsbut initial high sales + a good game means everything in MMOs.
Hype without a good game only helps you to get in some money for a month, like AoC and WAR. A good game with no hype will take a long time to get big.
So hype matters but it is just part of what makes a game big. But you can't really expect Wow to be hyped 7 years after launch, I am surprised that the first GW is still so high on that list as well.
You are right.
I was only saying that big hype does not automatically imply success. Jumping to such conclusions that the most hyped game will be a wow killer is a bit rash.
Better to be crazy, provided you know what sane is...
It takes a lot for someone to leave WoW they've often invested a lot of time in the game and have friends there . A lot of people actually grow up with the game for instance I knew someone in the guild I was in that started when she was 14 and only left when she had her first baby at the age of 19 . I gave up playing full time a couple of years ago but since then I've played a couple of months every year mostly to do the battlegrounds . The impression I get is that many people arn't happy with the way that the game has gone and are just waiting for a game to come out to take over from it . But for every one of those theres two younger players that love it. Given that its now a game aimed for the greater part at younger and extremely casual gamers I can understand this . I've been saying for many years now that I doubt there will be any one wowkiller but there will be a succession of games that will eventually reduce the numbers of people playing WoW considerably and at that point WoW will most likly get a boost again because the developers will make it free to play ( a process we've seen begin recently ) . Also you have to take the specs required to play a new game compared to an older one . Most people don't have high end gaming rigs and one of the reasons I don't play RIFT which is an ok game if that my pc strugges with it on the lowest settings and with a core duo 3.4 ghz processor ,4 gb ram and an nvidea 9800 1 gb card while my pc is'nt top wack its still capable of playing games such as Age of Conan at medium-high and LOTRO on high to ultra high so a lot depends on what GW2 will require spec wise . I also believe its buy to play isn't it ? I've always felt that to be in direct competition with WoW a game would have to be sub based . Having said that I do think GW2 will be very big . I just hope I can run it well enough to enjoy it .
Does it even NEED to kill WoW? I mean by the time GW2 is released Blizzard will have shot Warcraft in the foot so many times it will have bled out.
It is best for the industry the MMO throne remains an dusty empty seat never to be filled.
What those of you that havent been playing MMOs since Meridian don't understand is that most people, for whatever reason, love their first MMO .. much like a republican wont vote for a democrat even if the republican killed their mom. One game will not come along and "steal" all of wow's subs. It just wont happen. It will be a long slow and painful death that will continue to make Blizzard rich for at least another 10 years I would guess. There are still people playing UO I think ... Please stop with these threads already .. you just look dim.
LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity.
I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already
GW 2 will kill WoW. It's the best MMORPG ever to come out. I played it and this game is brimming with contents. It has P2P level of polish and content although its a B2P game. B2P is the future. WoW just lost all of its 11 mil subs and they moved to GW2 because its so good and casuals love it. *facepalm*
Atleast wait before the game comes out. I am sure you will be dissapointed with this. Its a B2P...so don't expect P2P type big worlds or P2P contents. Areanet is a business, they are not going to take loss for your satisfaction. They have to pay their employees and at the same time keep up with competition. Get ready to buy expansions every 4 months that will last you another 1 month.
I am just curious what do GW offer as end game? crafting? instances? open world bosses? pvp? I know its a themepark game so no sandbox features here.
Currently Playing: SSFIV AE, SFxTekken, SWTOR, WoW. Waiting for: GW2, Resident Evil 6.
To say something that you know most will not agree with is almost like trolling. lol look how many fell for this. Sorry but the days of MMOs are fading. No one is taking MMOs to a new lvl. Lol guys you fell for the "WOW KILLER".. just look how many pages went by before the OP posted and then look what he said..
this does not even make sence to call it a wow killer by the hype rating it has on mmorpg.com.
remember what Aions rating was on here when it still was in development? nuff said
No. No it's not. It is not going to come out and suddenly have all 11.wtfever WoW players playing it. Someone says a phrase every now and then when they totally fed up with hearing "X is gonna be the WoW killer!," yet when they say it you can hear the hopelessness in the pixels of their reply (yes hear. "Do you hear that, Fezzik? That is the sound of ultimate suffering."): "the only thing that will kill WoW, is WoW." In summation: MMOS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!!! GOODNIGHT!!!
How is the hype meter calculated anyways?
Blizzard made the official "WoW Killer".
It's called Cataclysm. Over 7 million dead, and many more dying every day.
I want meaningless stats with zero relationship to actual success in past history for my life too!
You stay sassy!
sadly reality disagrees, Cataclysm just meant its become even harder for other games to compete with WoW.. it was far from being a failure.. GW2 however.. has yet to prove it has anything to offer beyond hype.. but its not alone in that department..
That is a good question. Since SWTOR anounced pre-sales the greatest increase in chatter is with that game across the internet but it's rating hasn't moved at all.
It is a useless stat anyway. A games success will be measured by player retention and increase in sales after launch. This is based entirely on the gameplay itself.
It is better for all of us to have many successful games but sadly this is often not the case.
You stay sassy!
Not sure how reality disagrees? Subs for WOW went DOWN after cataclysm, not up.
link please
R.I.P World of Warcraft!
I am not sure, Blizzard have actually for the first time ever admited that they lost players so things isn't as peachy in Wow land as it could be. On the other hand could it be a lot worse than half a million players down.
Wow and most of the other larger MMOs are ageing fast and someone will take over sooner or later. It makes sense.
GW2 wont be a Wow killer, I don't think any game can be that but Wow will loose players to newer games, anyone who think the same computer game can be on top forever isn't thinking straight.
Of course it might well be that Blizzard continue to have the largest MMO in the future as well but in that case we are talking about Titan (or Wow 2), not Wow.
As time goes by newer games will take bigger chunks out of Wow and unlike Aion will Wow at least feel GW2. Those games have some things in common, for starters are both ideas of Jeff Strain.
Wow will be the biggest Western MMO 2012 as well, and if next expansion is really great it might still be until 2014. But time will catch up to it eventually just like it have done to all other computer games. Unlike books do games not age that well.
GW2 is B2P. They're really not in competition. This is like saying, Deux Ex: Rev is going to kill WoW.
no one said it was a failure, but...
http://wow.joystiq.com/2011/05/09/world-of-warcraft-dips-to-a-mere-11-4-million-subscribers/#continued
Even though I'm looking forward to GW2 quite a bit more than TOR, I have to agree. TOR is really the only game that has any kind of a chance of "dethroning" or "crippling" WoW, aside from Titan at least, anytime in the near future.