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So.... the way they protray Castani women (Not human) tells you how the feel about human women... But the way they actually portrey human women tells you absolutely nothing?
sounds to me like the probem here is with your own perseptions, not their portrayals.
They portray human women in a similar fashion based on the other videos I've seen.
Really, it's just childish - artistically directed for hormone crazed humans. Not to take anything away from gameplay or whatever the fans of this action rpg like.
Don't worry, you're not.
A video was just shown that they don't? They portray human female normally and if you wanna pick a human female sorcerer which means caster with light clothing them I'm terribly sorry but it will look just like that, a caster with light clothing.
There's nothing to be sorry about here.
http://video.mmosite.com/default.php?controller=resource&action=play&id=14200
I imagine watching her run the other way causes a few tents to be raised.
Point???
This is the naked version of human female, the thing that happens when you remove everything out of your equipment, have you not played other MMOs?
And if it's not, you'd probably have to struggle to make her look like that, would you?
I'm derailing this thread.
http://i.imgur.com/Uo04e.gif
No, it's not the naked version. And no, I doubt I would struggle to make her look like that.
It's just immature art direction aimed at the teenage audience.
Absolutely not, classic pregiudice. People don't pay 50$ for the client + 15$ month for see an ass, they will get bored fast because is not a life simulation, don't think? The main focus of the game is the fantastic art style and landscape, the action fps system and pvp, only retard and insecure people think different.
Now seems you are one of them because the only thing you focus in this game is a stupid video with some jokes in or maybe you are one of these trolls bored coz you are sick to wait 2011 for your next west mmorpg.
In the end haters like you are a nonfactor, a true minority, after all people who dislike korean games will never play korean games aniway, no matter how good they are because they have pregiudice, ugly anime art, sexism, bad armour design, and grindfest. We already know this and we don't care, so give us a favour and go to play your innovative GW2, this game will surely fit better your tastes.
PS: Before you back to GW2 or Wow you can increase your forum count blaming Blade & Soul too, another big sexist game, graphic and art made by Hyung-tae Kim, a known women hater like all asians. /sarcasm off
It doesn't bother me in any particular way and at least they are honest of why they put this in
But I do find it over the top in this case and the walk is just plain ridiculous looking imo...
It's not really a mark of good taste, but just throwing it in your face, which doesn't very much appeal to me.
I prefer sexyness to be displayed subtly and suggestively instead of just flat out having a bunch of women with G-strings and naked breasts, although I can't deny there is some attraction to that of course.
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You see that *IS* part of the problem. We've had MUCH more than enough "working on the next generation" as it is. I'm old enough to remember when much of this started back in the 60's. I also remember seeing parts of entire generations of males grow up under its influence. The results have not tended to be good. FAR too many females claimed that they wanted "caring, sensistive" males as partners and mates. Only to find that the results of this indoctrination program produced broken males, who didn't match their ideal concept. Many of these ended up discarded, and pretty much left to work out their various "issues", while the ideologues set to work on the next generation.
Contrary to somes ideological beliefs, males and females have different biology and thus perceptions and typical behavior patterns. The attempts to "normalize" male behavior in the public "educational" system through the use of drugs and coercion has resulted in *major* problems for parts of entire generations. I have always held the belief that male children should be taught by male teachers, and female children should be taught by female teachers. Males tend to understand what is typical male behavior, and can use command tone and posture to maintain order. The best male(and some female) teachers understand and apply this.
As for "Objectification", its a rather complex field, with little real agreement among the various camps about core processes and the results. Given that we are dealing with individual perceptions as well as belief systems, thats hardly surprising. What is known is that humans inherently objectivify as a part of their data processing system. That this would extend to such a basic area as sex should be no surprise. BOTH sexes tend to objectify the other. But the results of one side being granted official "victim" status are too complex and detailed to go into at this juncture. But in the over all scheme of things that video is really trivial, and to many of us a subject of humor, rather than offense.
I remember how controversial Tomb Raider was. Now it's the norm. I'm personally waiting for when nudety isn't taboo anymore. We really need to get over religiously motivated bans, and teach some damn self control. That's what the US population has a real problem with. Relying on the government or religion to do everything for them, and having no self control because of it. Why do you think suicide cults pop up every now and them? Lambs to the slaughter.
I wonder whos idea was that it would be sexy to look at the naked ass of what seems to be a retarded girl running around?
Ummmm well i dont know if your a female or a male. If your a female then i suppose that you can feel uncomfortable but understand, that is called male humor okay. Thats just any straight guy joking that doesnt have a stick up his ass. Now if you are a guy well pass your man card to the front plz and go whatch some soaps on Tv cuz you sir fail. Do you have a problem with playboy to? Or maybe basically all anime offends you, oh and lets not forget if you ever go to have sex the girl is going to be NAKED so that will just disgust you. They are panties man gimmie a break.
I am a female gamer and in my fifties. I also read manga and manwha and have watched a lot of Korean dramas. Their culture is different and you cannot really get upset about these things if you have read manga and are familiar with the Japanese and Korean cultures you would understand this better.
Also guys will be guys why get upset about these comments. Looks like you lead a sheltered life. When guys get together the group talk always end up like this .Unless you have never been around a group of guys or they are all behaving most men when they get together joke like this. Besides if they let their guard down around you and are comfortable they will be talking like this. If you never come across this then most of them were just behaving properly but trust me most guys talk like this.
Maybe you didn't read the thread or something. I'm guessing you read that one line and responded.
Believe it or not, many view the objectification of women as "classic prejudice." Actually, the objectification of women is likely the most "classic prejudice" in all of history. The fact that it is still so acceptable and normal for so many people only shows how unsuccessful civilized society has been at educating people about the potential long term pitfalls of blatant objectification of women.
You say, " only retard and insecure people think different."
This game already seems to be attracting exactly the type of audience I was referring to.
We already know which audience it targets. The fact that you and a few others discuss this insignificant feature to death in no way means that the game will be made up of horny teenagers and adults. People find it acceptable for the sole reason that they don't connect 2 pixels with the real world or the society of it, some others should do the same as well.
Wow, this thread has doubled in size since I last checked it! Skim-reading over some of the replies there seems to be a fair bit of interesting and mature discussion going on, by MMORPG.com standards. I'm glad to have sparked off such rich debate!
Always read the small print.
I'll just say this one more time for emphasis:
I'm saying that this game is targeted towards an audience that finds that kind of sexualized artwork acceptable and normal and that I think that I will not have very much in common with that crowd.
And I also think that there are a lot of people that might also think that way based on what I've seen in this video.
Do you understand that your opinion is not the only one yet?
Still fighting over that video and what it means for society? Why don't we talk about how the males costanics have portrayed as rock stars (the sexually orientated ones) and how this is somehow displays hatred toward the male gender.
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Good point. The objectification of males is becoming popular as well.
First of all, those guys in the video were obviously joking anyone who can't see this by now is a complete idiot. Secondly, I have a friend that despises this kind of art and has never ever seen any anime in his life, he absolutely hates it and yet he will be playing this game for the fun factor. He obviously won't be rolling a female tho. The only thing you won't be having in common with some people is that you won't find this art acceptable, do you have everything in common with the people you are together everyday? Most certainly not. And again, many people who don't necessarily like this artwork will still play it. Actually, you sound like you seperate the world in 2 kinds: those who find this artwork acceptable and those who don't. "eeew, I can never be friends with these people, where did they come from?"...lol...just lol.
Male Castanic...
If I had a leapord print, feather trimmed, what ever that abomination is called, I'd probably wear it too.
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So, just what IS this " civilized" society you speak of? A real civilized society would not use its educational system, as an indoctrination tool to suit the whims of various ideologues. Objectification is what humans do. It is part of their internal processing system. The fact that such extends to such a basic area as sex is hardly a surprise. Both sides objectifiy the other. What needs to be learned(which takes time and experience) is to go beyond the surface. This is not going to be from some heavy handed "working on the next generation" nor from indoctrination at the hands of an ideologue dominated state.
I consider that video (and that art style) to be a source of humor. It demonstrates that the young adult Dev's and their target audience have not yet moved beyond the surface. But to take offense at that is much akin to cursing water at room temperature for being wet. Human males(in even the most repressive, oppressive regime) have through out history demonstrated a fascination with the female form. Lets let each individual couple work out their own education(believe me, women are more than capable of this... ^^) and leave collectvist abstracts like "society" to the ideologues.
I have to be totally honest, I find this...to be a bit...over too manly for my tastes