It is odd that standing before the gates of a massively played realm based RvR zone like Lake Wintergrasp with its dynamic landscapes and destructable towers and fortresses, you dream about a game that's not even published.
That sounds pretty normal to me, if he didn't like the game I doubt he will like it after CATA (that also is unpublished yet) either.
As for the new game he might or might not like it, but he knows he doesn't like Wow and that is fine because taste matters and you just can't assume that everyone likes exactly the same things as you do.
I don't think no expansion can get a player to like a game he did not like before, except maybe a total revamp like the NGE and that always pisses off more players than it makes happy.
The people who like Wow will hopefully like it more or at least longer but the ones that totally burnt out or dislike it from the start wont play it again, at least not for long. Everybody can't like the same game.
If you quit end of BC you dodged a bullet. With the exception of Ulduar, Wrath at 80 was boring. Levelling zones and storylines were good though. Just depends what you want from the game though.
Cata will be good and no doubt worth the box price and if you loved BC you probably won't notice too much the dumbing down since they're ramping up the difficulty again from the teletubbie level of Wrath.
Will I come back? No. The game doesn't reward my level of play and caters to casuals - and 12 million of those can't be wrong. But within two months it'll be back to the pointless heroic LFD grind.
This will make me sound like a fanboy, but haters gonna hate. I've learned from these forums that no matter how rational and civil the discussion there will eventually be WoW hate. For the type of MMO that WoW is, there is no better game on the market; nothing even comes close. I would say it's well worth a trip back to Azeroth. What do you have to lose? I think you'll find it a refreshing experience.
Not sure what you want to show with these youtube links, but it looks shite.
It's the RvR zone of Lake Wintergrasp with a 240 player limit on holding the zone to get a Raid, vendor and realm awards. Each night it is fought over. After 2 years the zone is now complete free of lag and heavely played on my server.
The footage is just that: a compressed video of in real in game footage (origional sounds and all) showing the real time destruction of the zone by the opposing forces.
I think lots of you "hate guys" should first play the content before commenting.
Apparently some of you hype even games that don't exist. It is about time you follow the industry trend setter first, before commenting on things you never saw (level 72) and then make conclusions.
I think it is about time some people discover WOW.
I played this last July and leveled my Priest to 76, then resubbed last week and got to 80. I'm working on my Tier 10 gear before Cata comes out, then I will probably not play much in November. I'm looking forward to playing a Worgen Hunter when Cata comes out.
Wotlk was a really fun expansion, but it feels a little strange playing now as everyone knows the content and expects you to as well. I never played wotlk before my priest. I did play TBC a little with a rogue a few years ago.
On / off resubber. I am considering Cataclysm but only because I don't want to play anything else right at this moment. If Guild Wars 2 or SW:TOR was suddenly and surprisingly released or even, heaven forbid, Incarna (finally!!!!) for EVE Online I would consider playing those instead.
I think it is about time some people discover WOW.
I don't think WG is perhaps the best selling point for WoW though ; )
It's the zone I like most, certainly if you want to hold on to the Keep with your guildies.
I just pointed this little RvR out to the 2 guys above in this thread that keep pushing unpublished games through the roof and then come in downgrading WOW without even knowing what can be played these days.
Changing zones ownership, destructable landscape already offered and played in a published game. N o need for me to drool over "paper" games.
Now I will try those other games too, but first I wait till I can actually play them before bashing/trashing existent ones without decent experience.
Nah, I retired from WoW after killing Illidan with my guild, and I promised myself I wouldn't return.
"For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast, And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed: And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill, And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!" ~Lord George Gordon Byron
I think it is about time some people discover WOW.
I don't think WG is perhaps the best selling point for WoW though ; )
It's the zone I like most, certainly if you want to hold on to the Keep with your guildies.
I just pointed this little RvR out to the 2 guys above in this thread that keep pushing unpublished games through the roof and then come in downgrading WOW without even knowing what can be played these days.
Changing zones ownership, destructable landscape already offered and played in a published game. N o need for me to drool over "paper" games.
Now I will try those other games too, but first I wait till I can actually play them before bashing/trashing existent ones without decent experience.
Wait, WOW added looting of your opponents, meaningful penalties for dying, keeps that you personally build with your own blood sweat and tears, and defend against all comers.
No? Oh, nevermind then. As mentioned, WOW is many things, but it isn't everything that players are looking for.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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It's the zone I like most, certainly if you want to hold on to the Keep with your guildies.
I just pointed this little RvR out to the 2 guys above in this thread that keep pushing unpublished games through the roof and then come in downgrading WOW without even knowing what can be played these days.
Changing zones ownership, destructable landscape already offered and played in a published game. N o need for me to drool over "paper" games.
Now I will try those other games too, but first I wait till I can actually play them before bashing/trashing existent ones without decent experience.
Wait, WOW added looting of your opponents, meaningful penalties for dying, keeps that you personally build with your own blood sweat and tears, and defend against all comers.
No? Oh, nevermind then. As mentioned, WOW is many things, but it isn't everything that players are looking for.
Of course Wow is not everything that players are looking for. Far from it even.
But it offers more than the "published" alternatives .these last 6 years showed that the "unpublished" alternatives simply did not deliver.
Vets are playing WOW by lack of any other decent alternative.
If you don't like the fact you are a spaceship in endless space and will never see something trivial like a tree... what are the alternatives?
Single focused games with a lot less polish, world and much less choices.
Of course the next announced game will certainly remedy this. We all know that.
In the meantime ...I play such zones instead of whining and dreaming up nice things in the sky.
Even with nothing else to play I will not be returning to WoW. Leveling up in WoW was very fun with certain classes. Other classes it was a chore. Also, there is nothing for me to do once maxed. I hate raiding, and lacked the gear(and arena team) to be competitive in PvP at level 80.
I may reactivate my sub every once in a while, create a new character and see the "new old world" and everything, but I'm pretty darn sure I'm not going to buy the expansion itself. Being able to fly around (since I no longer have the time/patience to raid) is, frankly, not worth $40 IMO.
Comparing the revenue WoW is generating for Blizzard with the level of innovative content being funneled back into the game has made me completely distrust the company. They should be able to do it so much better with those kind of funds assuming there is a genuine interest and ability within the company to expand the game universe.
Vets are playing WOW by lack of any other decent alternative.
If you don't like the fact you are a spaceship in endless space and will never see something trivial like a tree... what are the alternatives?
More then half of the "vets" in this thread already dont agree with that "fact"
Dont post your opinion as fact
For me even Pacman now is a better alternative then WoW
Also you didnt answer yet where i bash and what games i push through the roof.
I think you just answered your own question ))
My opinion IS fact (not in this thread of course) but by the simple "fact" more than 12.000.000 active subscriptions show it and ... yes EVE has 350K too. Don't even try to negate the subs because the Q results are there to prove the revenue.
Looking at my guild most players played WOW already longer than 4 years. With each new "game" published some try them with me.
They always come back. And ... a lot didn't even try anymore after War.
We realised the competition simply lacks the funds and resources to come up with anything decent. And frankly it didn't exactly go better in 2009 and 2010 compared to these disasters of 2008.
Lol rather playing Pacman then WoW is bashing WoW? man you got issues....
anyway still one question to answer, what games do i hype up? you said it in more then 1 post so you must be sure about it.
Btw wanted to ask before, Zorn is that you??
The hype up part was for Loke666. He's playing GW2 since 2005 I believe.
My avatar's name in game is Acrono, not Zorn (I play on EU servers, so I think we didn't meet in game). Although I am quite known within the community of Wow and used to play early on at US servers.
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Obviously im not missing anything as i never looked back...
Besides why do you even quote an opinion, its mine opinion not yours
Hence why i quit at 72
That sounds pretty normal to me, if he didn't like the game I doubt he will like it after CATA (that also is unpublished yet) either.
As for the new game he might or might not like it, but he knows he doesn't like Wow and that is fine because taste matters and you just can't assume that everyone likes exactly the same things as you do.
I don't think no expansion can get a player to like a game he did not like before, except maybe a total revamp like the NGE and that always pisses off more players than it makes happy.
The people who like Wow will hopefully like it more or at least longer but the ones that totally burnt out or dislike it from the start wont play it again, at least not for long. Everybody can't like the same game.
Just like I said ...And missing the same dynamic landscape changing RvR based content you hype up about in an even unpublished game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS1cHllkDYI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvqOn_AR5ac
You simply didn't look.
Not sure what you want to show with these youtube links, but it looks shite.
If you quit end of BC you dodged a bullet. With the exception of Ulduar, Wrath at 80 was boring. Levelling zones and storylines were good though. Just depends what you want from the game though.
Cata will be good and no doubt worth the box price and if you loved BC you probably won't notice too much the dumbing down since they're ramping up the difficulty again from the teletubbie level of Wrath.
Will I come back? No. The game doesn't reward my level of play and caters to casuals - and 12 million of those can't be wrong. But within two months it'll be back to the pointless heroic LFD grind.
This will make me sound like a fanboy, but haters gonna hate. I've learned from these forums that no matter how rational and civil the discussion there will eventually be WoW hate. For the type of MMO that WoW is, there is no better game on the market; nothing even comes close. I would say it's well worth a trip back to Azeroth. What do you have to lose? I think you'll find it a refreshing experience.
It's the RvR zone of Lake Wintergrasp with a 240 player limit on holding the zone to get a Raid, vendor and realm awards. Each night it is fought over. After 2 years the zone is now complete free of lag and heavely played on my server.
The footage is just that: a compressed video of in real in game footage (origional sounds and all) showing the real time destruction of the zone by the opposing forces.
I think lots of you "hate guys" should first play the content before commenting.
Apparently some of you hype even games that don't exist. It is about time you follow the industry trend setter first, before commenting on things you never saw (level 72) and then make conclusions.
I think it is about time some people discover WOW.
i see i did the correct thing after all, thanks for clearing that up.
saved me alot of stress and anger in wintergrasp then
I don't think WG is perhaps the best selling point for WoW though ; )
I played this last July and leveled my Priest to 76, then resubbed last week and got to 80. I'm working on my Tier 10 gear before Cata comes out, then I will probably not play much in November. I'm looking forward to playing a Worgen Hunter when Cata comes out.
Wotlk was a really fun expansion, but it feels a little strange playing now as everyone knows the content and expects you to as well. I never played wotlk before my priest. I did play TBC a little with a rogue a few years ago.
On / off resubber. I am considering Cataclysm but only because I don't want to play anything else right at this moment. If Guild Wars 2 or SW:TOR was suddenly and surprisingly released or even, heaven forbid, Incarna (finally!!!!) for EVE Online I would consider playing those instead.
It's the zone I like most, certainly if you want to hold on to the Keep with your guildies.
I just pointed this little RvR out to the 2 guys above in this thread that keep pushing unpublished games through the roof and then come in downgrading WOW without even knowing what can be played these days.
Changing zones ownership, destructable landscape already offered and played in a published game. N o need for me to drool over "paper" games.
Now I will try those other games too, but first I wait till I can actually play them before bashing/trashing existent ones without decent experience.
What im i pushing through the roof mate?
Also wonder where i bash and thrash btw
Nah, I retired from WoW after killing Illidan with my guild, and I promised myself I wouldn't return.
"For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast,
And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed:
And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill,
And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!"
~Lord George Gordon Byron
Wait, WOW added looting of your opponents, meaningful penalties for dying, keeps that you personally build with your own blood sweat and tears, and defend against all comers.
No? Oh, nevermind then. As mentioned, WOW is many things, but it isn't everything that players are looking for.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Of course Wow is not everything that players are looking for. Far from it even.
But it offers more than the "published" alternatives .these last 6 years showed that the "unpublished" alternatives simply did not deliver.
Vets are playing WOW by lack of any other decent alternative.
If you don't like the fact you are a spaceship in endless space and will never see something trivial like a tree... what are the alternatives?
Single focused games with a lot less polish, world and much less choices.
Of course the next announced game will certainly remedy this. We all know that.
In the meantime ...I play such zones instead of whining and dreaming up nice things in the sky.
Even with nothing else to play I will not be returning to WoW. Leveling up in WoW was very fun with certain classes. Other classes it was a chore. Also, there is nothing for me to do once maxed. I hate raiding, and lacked the gear(and arena team) to be competitive in PvP at level 80.
I may reactivate my sub every once in a while, create a new character and see the "new old world" and everything, but I'm pretty darn sure I'm not going to buy the expansion itself. Being able to fly around (since I no longer have the time/patience to raid) is, frankly, not worth $40 IMO.
More then half of the "vets" in this thread already dont agree with that "fact"
Dont post your opinion as fact
For me even Pacman now is a better alternative then WoW
Also you didnt answer yet where i bash and what games i push through the roof.
To answer the OP: No.
Comparing the revenue WoW is generating for Blizzard with the level of innovative content being funneled back into the game has made me completely distrust the company. They should be able to do it so much better with those kind of funds assuming there is a genuine interest and ability within the company to expand the game universe.
I think you just answered your own question
))
My opinion IS fact (not in this thread of course) but by the simple "fact" more than 12.000.000 active subscriptions show it and ... yes EVE has 350K too. Don't even try to negate the subs because the Q results are there to prove the revenue.
Looking at my guild most players played WOW already longer than 4 years. With each new "game" published some try them with me.
They always come back. And ... a lot didn't even try anymore after War.
We realised the competition simply lacks the funds and resources to come up with anything decent. And frankly it didn't exactly go better in 2009 and 2010 compared to these disasters of 2008.
Lol rather playing Pacman then WoW is bashing WoW? man you got issues....
anyway still one question to answer, what games do i hype up? you said it in more then 1 post so you must be sure about it.
Btw wanted to ask before, Zorn is that you??
The hype up part was for Loke666. He's playing GW2 since 2005 I believe.
My avatar's name in game is Acrono, not Zorn (I play on EU servers, so I think we didn't meet in game). Although I am quite known within the community of Wow and used to play early on at US servers.
Zorndorf used to post here in exactly the same way you do so was just wondering