LMAO what a bunch of sorry arse Drama Queens we have here .. ITS ONE FRAAKIN LVL .. do you understand how insignifigant this is ... There are quests in game that take 15 minutes that will give 1 lvl also did you come QQin here for that also ... Get a grip and go change your stained panties........
No wonder the MMO industry(communities) suffers when we have people waiting to pounce and whine for any reason and most dont even read the notes they just react ... wahhhhhh lmao
LMAO what a bunch of sorry arse Drama Queens we have here .. ITS ONE FRAAKIN LVL .. do you understand how insignifigant this is ... There are quests in game that take 15 minutes that will give 1 lvl also did you come QQin here for that also ... Get a grip and go change your stained panties........
No wonder the MMO industry(communities) suffers when we have people waiting to pounce and whine for any reason and most dont even read the notes they just react ... wahhhhhh lmao
Grow up .
It's not just about selling one level. It's about what will happen down the road now that levels are sold. Will someone sell level packs in the future? Maybe a pack of 5 or a pack of 10.
If you don't see this as a negative sign, then you aren't playing the right genre. It's the same as selling a pack of 50 kills in an FPS... except that in that FPS, you are reuired to kill to progress further.
It isn't bad now, but eventually someone will push this concept further.
Specialized Training Pack – $9.99 USD, all characters on an account will recieve one War Tract that will allow them to immediately advance one full level when used
Hey, at least it will keep the servers on longer. For a mini expansion the game really doesn't seem to be getting a lot of attention.
This is really sad, as one player stated why not make the levels fun instead of just trying to milk those few who are willing to give the game a chance. I'm really not one of the people who think of EA as the devil (in fact I like lot's of EA games) but this really does make me look at them in a whole new light......
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
Who the hell is gripping about lvl's, its about getting punched in the face in broad daylight and not having to even settle the dispute. Plus its about how all this looks and what Mythic seems to be representing at the moment.
Not only are they asking players for subs, they are indicating that they are so desparate now that they have to try something so stupid just to earn a dime. HERE IS A HINT, YOUR GAME ISN"T EVEN PROFITABLE ON ITS OWN!!!
What makes them think including a store would improve the matter rather then alienate their already dwindling loyal supporters.
To hell with all this praises about how MYTHIC is making a smart choice, these people can choke on their false hope. I have already seen TR and HGL go down in flames, th latest would be the crappy game which is APB. THey can praise their move or even sing a song about it, but that doesn't stop a game from shutting down if there is no money in it.
LMAO what a bunch of sorry arse Drama Queens we have here .. ITS ONE FRAAKIN LVL .. do you understand how insignifigant this is ... There are quests in game that take 15 minutes that will give 1 lvl also did you come QQin here for that also ... Get a grip and go change your stained panties........
No wonder the MMO industry(communities) suffers when we have people waiting to pounce and whine for any reason and most dont even read the notes they just react ... wahhhhhh lmao
Grow up .
It's not just about selling one level. It's about what will happen down the road now that levels are sold. Will someone sell level packs in the future? Maybe a pack of 5 or a pack of 10.
If you don't see this as a negative sign, then you aren't playing the right genre. It's the same as selling a pack of 50 kills in an FPS... except that in that FPS, you are reuired to kill to progress further.
It isn't bad now, but eventually someone will push this concept further.
I'm amazed that some people can't see where this kind of BS leads to. You'd think that with a change this ridiculous, everyone would be letting them have it. Cash shops in sub games is beyond a joke, but this is the most pathetic thing I've ever encountered in the genre.
Grow up?
Open your eyes!!!
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
Wait, i think i know what MYTHICS's new target market is, DUMBASS NAIVE KIDS WHO PRAISES BAD BUSINESS DECISION MOVES. LOL
I have already seen enough false hope from the APB forum. Kids yelling and screaming about how selfish people are for judging a game. Well kids, not hard to see what happen afterwards does it.
I think one thing people are missing, keep missing, or willfully ignoring, is you can only buy one. You can't go 1-40 buying levels. You can buy it once, raise your level once. From what I read, it's once per account. And you can't use any more on any other characters. You can buy another, but your account cannot use it.
It's not just about selling one level. It's about what will happen down the road now that levels are sold. Will someone sell level packs in the future? Maybe a pack of 5 or a pack of 10.
If you don't see this as a negative sign, then you aren't playing the right genre. It's the same as selling a pack of 50 kills in an FPS... except that in that FPS, you are reuired to kill to progress further.
It isn't bad now, but eventually someone will push this concept further.
I don't buy in game items, and i'm pretty much against any type of cash shop in my MMO..
But in a nutshell, they won't sell them if people don't buy them.
I started in UO, and it started with some guys selling some gold and items in game, then it moved on to people selling placed castles on ebay for upwards of 1000 dollars..
Jump up a few years and here we are buying a level.
These "cash shops", you aren't going to stop them, and someone (EA) is always going to push the envelope and see how far it goes, and what they can sell/what people buy. It won't stop until the customers decide they are paying more money than the amount of fun they are having.
People are buying it, or, they wouldn't be selling it. Honestly, I don't blame the companies for trying to make money, I blame my fellow gamers. I may be wrong, or right here, but thats what it has come to.
The comment about playing in the wrong genre" you gave, sadly, it may be you and I in the wrong genre'.
LMAO what a bunch of sorry arse Drama Queens we have here .. ITS ONE FRAAKIN LVL .. do you understand how insignifigant this is ... There are quests in game that take 15 minutes that will give 1 lvl also did you come QQin here for that also ... Get a grip and go change your stained panties........
No wonder the MMO industry(communities) suffers when we have people waiting to pounce and whine for any reason and most dont even read the notes they just react ... wahhhhhh lmao
Grow up .
Dear sir, i must agree with you
Everyone is QQ for a level...in other game you can CHANGE THE FRAKKED FACTION if you pay...and here everyone QQ for a single level...
It was not one level yesterday they put that restriction in later perhaps on hind sight they knew it would be a bad crap storm if they did not.
It is the principle of selling levels. I cannot understand how people can just explain this away and not see where this is leading. Pity really that we are so lax in what we accept .Thank heavens I had the sense to dump this game early and not fund this corrupt concept being pushed. Although when they started charging accounts which were closed I went into panic mode and cursed the day I ever played this game.
True that........ pay us so that you don't have to see our mistakes and bad decisions. Skip to the good part and play that instead. Hold on, WHY DON"T I PAY A GUY TO LVL THE TOON FOR ME INSTEAD OF FEEDING MYTHIC MONEY THEY DON"T DESERVE.
Plus its cheaper. Problem solve. Figure that out MYTHIC.
If people support this kinda business model, MYTHIC ain't gona stop. Even actually paying for it proves to MYTHIC that there really are still idiots out the to mine their pockets.
It was not one level yesterday they put that restriction in later perhaps on hind sight they knew it would be a bad crap storm if they did not.
It is the principle of selling levels. I cannot understand how people can just explain this away and not see where this is leading. Pity really that we are so lax in what we accept .Thank heavens I had the sense to dump this game early and not fund this corrupt concept being pushed. Although when they started charging accounts which were closed I went into panic mode and cursed the day I ever played this game.
Way too much complacency around here. This should be a no brainer.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
LMAO what a bunch of sorry arse Drama Queens we have here .. ITS ONE FRAAKIN LVL .. do you understand how insignifigant this is ... There are quests in game that take 15 minutes that will give 1 lvl also did you come QQin here for that also ... Get a grip and go change your stained panties........
No wonder the MMO industry(communities) suffers when we have people waiting to pounce and whine for any reason and most dont even read the notes they just react ... wahhhhhh lmao
Grow up .
Dear sir, i must agree with you
Everyone is QQ for a level...in other game you can CHANGE THE FRAKKED FACTION if you pay...and here everyone QQ for a single level...
Yea , many other games have far more drastic RMT .. Wars is really pretty suttle
I think one thing people are missing, keep missing, or willfully ignoring, is you can only buy one. You can't go 1-40 buying levels. You can buy it once, raise your level once. From what I read, it's once per account. And you can't use any more on any other characters. You can buy another, but your account cannot use it.
It's the principle. Once you start doing this there is no way of knowing if they wont increase the number of levels you can buy or extend it to allow you to buy RR levels, gear etc.
Not only are they asking players for subs, they are indicating that they are so desparate now that they have to try something so stupid just to earn a dime. HERE IS A HINT, YOUR GAME ISN"T EVEN PROFITABLE ON ITS OWN!!!
With bigger companies like EA is not about being profitable it about making the target and projected profit. Might be that WAR is pretty profitable, but still far under what they want or they simply saw an profitable opertunity and went for it. Let's face it, there is a market for this stuff and people will buy it.
Can you really blame campanies then for doing so? It cost them hardly anything to do as it will be automated. So maximum profit for a minimal investment. Most people would take that deal, there are not there to protect MMO's for this type of stuff they are there to make money and loads of it.
I do not see the problem with 1 level pack, hell would not even see the problem with 10 or 40 level pack. Those people who buy it are missing out on content. There loss and not mine.
Now that Bioware is involved, maybe they are just testing the water on what people are ready to pay for to set Sw:ToR cash shop accordingly. Just my 2 copper...
Not only are they asking players for subs, they are indicating that they are so desparate now that they have to try something so stupid just to earn a dime. HERE IS A HINT, YOUR GAME ISN"T EVEN PROFITABLE ON ITS OWN!!!
With bigger companies like EA is not about being profitable it about making the target and projected profit. Might be that WAR is pretty profitable, but still far under what they want or they simply saw an profitable opertunity and went for it. Let's face it, there is a market for this stuff and people will buy it.
Can you really blame campanies then for doing so? It cost them hardly anything to do as it will be automated. So maximum profit for a minimal investment. Most people would take that deal, there are not there to protect MMO's for this type of stuff they are there to make money and loads of it.
I do not see the problem with 1 level pack, hell would not even see the problem with 10 or 40 level pack. Those people who buy it are missing out on content. There loss and not mine.
What i dont get is why any of these people give a rats arse if someone buys 40 lvls(if they Could) who cares .. thats there problem .. And peolple actually do as accounts are sold everyday with max lvl toons ..... so Why do they care ,how does it really effect them.. It doesnt ... They just want something to whine about ..... Now if they were sellin Sov or Warlord gear and RR lvls that would be fdiffernet and i could see people complaining about it .. but the stuff they are selling is meaningless..
It was not one level yesterday they put that restriction in later perhaps on hind sight they knew it would be a bad crap storm if they did not.
It is the principle of selling levels. I cannot understand how people can just explain this away and not see where this is leading. Pity really that we are so lax in what we accept .Thank heavens I had the sense to dump this game early and not fund this corrupt concept being pushed. Although when they started charging accounts which were closed I went into panic mode and cursed the day I ever played this game.
What a pile of contradictions you are ;P
Yeah...it certainly is game-breaking to get to 40 a little quicker - but you'd know that wouldn't you. As for where this is leading, perhaps you should enlighten us oh mighty Kreskin? You don't know that though, do you.
Would I buy it? Heck no. Do I fault someone for buying an already available in-game item? So they can get into end-game a little quicker? Again - heck no. This whining cesspool really makes me chuckle.
Cash shops go with F2P. No brainer there. How many times must MYTHIC be tossed the phail pie before they realize it. If SWTOR is anything like this, count me out for the pre-orders until i see the real deal.
WE ARE WORRIED THAT BY MAKING THIS DECISION, MYTHIC IS WILL SCREW THEMSELVES OVER AND THAT WILL BE THE END OF THE GAME!!!
Bad decisions means chasing away a portion of their players, and we know by common sense that servers are not free and employees are not free either. How will they keep they game up if this decision chases away a good amount of players?
Will the PRAISE SHOUTING KIDS fund MYTHIC after that? Hell no.
Cash shops go with F2P. No brainer there. How many times must MYTHIC be tossed the phail pie before they realize it. If SWTOR is anything like this, count me out for the pre-orders until i see the real deal.
Cash shops go with F2P. Is no longer true .. as a matter a fact most P2P have 1 form or another of Cash shop in them right now...
No brainer there...
And you may as well punch you SWToR ticket now , as i guarantee it will have some form of cash shop .. But you will play anyway wont you .. we wont telll lol
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LMAO what a bunch of sorry arse Drama Queens we have here .. ITS ONE FRAAKIN LVL .. do you understand how insignifigant this is ... There are quests in game that take 15 minutes that will give 1 lvl also did you come QQin here for that also ... Get a grip and go change your stained panties........
No wonder the MMO industry(communities) suffers when we have people waiting to pounce and whine for any reason and most dont even read the notes they just react ... wahhhhhh lmao
Grow up .
It's not just about selling one level. It's about what will happen down the road now that levels are sold. Will someone sell level packs in the future? Maybe a pack of 5 or a pack of 10.
If you don't see this as a negative sign, then you aren't playing the right genre. It's the same as selling a pack of 50 kills in an FPS... except that in that FPS, you are reuired to kill to progress further.
It isn't bad now, but eventually someone will push this concept further.
This is really sad, as one player stated why not make the levels fun instead of just trying to milk those few who are willing to give the game a chance. I'm really not one of the people who think of EA as the devil (in fact I like lot's of EA games) but this really does make me look at them in a whole new light......
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
Who the hell is gripping about lvl's, its about getting punched in the face in broad daylight and not having to even settle the dispute. Plus its about how all this looks and what Mythic seems to be representing at the moment.
Not only are they asking players for subs, they are indicating that they are so desparate now that they have to try something so stupid just to earn a dime. HERE IS A HINT, YOUR GAME ISN"T EVEN PROFITABLE ON ITS OWN!!!
What makes them think including a store would improve the matter rather then alienate their already dwindling loyal supporters.
To hell with all this praises about how MYTHIC is making a smart choice, these people can choke on their false hope. I have already seen TR and HGL go down in flames, th latest would be the crappy game which is APB. THey can praise their move or even sing a song about it, but that doesn't stop a game from shutting down if there is no money in it.
I'm amazed that some people can't see where this kind of BS leads to. You'd think that with a change this ridiculous, everyone would be letting them have it. Cash shops in sub games is beyond a joke, but this is the most pathetic thing I've ever encountered in the genre.
Grow up?
Open your eyes!!!
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
Sigh.
I must agree with most of the posters. This is not a good thing for Mythic to do.
Also the name of the program 'Account Entitlements' ..is poor
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Awned: World of Warcraft (Lothar)
Torren: Warhammer Online (Praag)
Wait, i think i know what MYTHICS's new target market is, DUMBASS NAIVE KIDS WHO PRAISES BAD BUSINESS DECISION MOVES. LOL
I have already seen enough false hope from the APB forum. Kids yelling and screaming about how selfish people are for judging a game. Well kids, not hard to see what happen afterwards does it.
And that's what I think some people might not realize, it IS a slippery slope.
I'm sure no one in the long run really cares about 10.00 for one level. But would we see this type of thing several years ago?
People would think you were nuts. "pay 10 dollars for a level pfffttt".
Of course some people could point to xp potions being the same thing in a way but I don't think those are acceptable either.
My opinion is that if the game company is charging to essentially skip over something in their game then that thing isn't worth being in the game.
I mean, imagine skipping over a movie? "for an extra 5 dollars you can see a movie and skip 30 minutes of it!"
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Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
In War by purchasing 1 lvl what are you skipping over ... 0, nothing , nada ..............
I think one thing people are missing, keep missing, or willfully ignoring, is you can only buy one. You can't go 1-40 buying levels. You can buy it once, raise your level once. From what I read, it's once per account. And you can't use any more on any other characters. You can buy another, but your account cannot use it.
I don't buy in game items, and i'm pretty much against any type of cash shop in my MMO..
But in a nutshell, they won't sell them if people don't buy them.
I started in UO, and it started with some guys selling some gold and items in game, then it moved on to people selling placed castles on ebay for upwards of 1000 dollars..
Jump up a few years and here we are buying a level.
These "cash shops", you aren't going to stop them, and someone (EA) is always going to push the envelope and see how far it goes, and what they can sell/what people buy. It won't stop until the customers decide they are paying more money than the amount of fun they are having.
People are buying it, or, they wouldn't be selling it. Honestly, I don't blame the companies for trying to make money, I blame my fellow gamers. I may be wrong, or right here, but thats what it has come to.
The comment about playing in the wrong genre" you gave, sadly, it may be you and I in the wrong genre'.
Dear sir, i must agree with you
Everyone is QQ for a level...in other game you can CHANGE THE FRAKKED FACTION if you pay...and here everyone QQ for a single level...
It was not one level yesterday they put that restriction in later perhaps on hind sight they knew it would be a bad crap storm if they did not.
It is the principle of selling levels. I cannot understand how people can just explain this away and not see where this is leading. Pity really that we are so lax in what we accept .Thank heavens I had the sense to dump this game early and not fund this corrupt concept being pushed. Although when they started charging accounts which were closed I went into panic mode and cursed the day I ever played this game.
True that........ pay us so that you don't have to see our mistakes and bad decisions. Skip to the good part and play that instead. Hold on, WHY DON"T I PAY A GUY TO LVL THE TOON FOR ME INSTEAD OF FEEDING MYTHIC MONEY THEY DON"T DESERVE.
Plus its cheaper. Problem solve. Figure that out MYTHIC.
If people support this kinda business model, MYTHIC ain't gona stop. Even actually paying for it proves to MYTHIC that there really are still idiots out the to mine their pockets.
Way too much complacency around here. This should be a no brainer.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
Yea , many other games have far more drastic RMT .. Wars is really pretty suttle
It's the principle. Once you start doing this there is no way of knowing if they wont increase the number of levels you can buy or extend it to allow you to buy RR levels, gear etc.
Like someone else said, it is a slippery slope...
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LMAO,pathetic
With bigger companies like EA is not about being profitable it about making the target and projected profit. Might be that WAR is pretty profitable, but still far under what they want or they simply saw an profitable opertunity and went for it. Let's face it, there is a market for this stuff and people will buy it.
Can you really blame campanies then for doing so? It cost them hardly anything to do as it will be automated. So maximum profit for a minimal investment. Most people would take that deal, there are not there to protect MMO's for this type of stuff they are there to make money and loads of it.
I do not see the problem with 1 level pack, hell would not even see the problem with 10 or 40 level pack. Those people who buy it are missing out on content. There loss and not mine.
Now that Bioware is involved, maybe they are just testing the water on what people are ready to pay for to set Sw:ToR cash shop accordingly. Just my 2 copper...
What i dont get is why any of these people give a rats arse if someone buys 40 lvls(if they Could) who cares .. thats there problem .. And peolple actually do as accounts are sold everyday with max lvl toons ..... so Why do they care ,how does it really effect them.. It doesnt ... They just want something to whine about ..... Now if they were sellin Sov or Warlord gear and RR lvls that would be fdiffernet and i could see people complaining about it .. but the stuff they are selling is meaningless..
What a pile of contradictions you are ;P
Yeah...it certainly is game-breaking to get to 40 a little quicker - but you'd know that wouldn't you. As for where this is leading, perhaps you should enlighten us oh mighty Kreskin? You don't know that though, do you.
Would I buy it? Heck no. Do I fault someone for buying an already available in-game item? So they can get into end-game a little quicker? Again - heck no. This whining cesspool really makes me chuckle.
Cash shops go with F2P. No brainer there. How many times must MYTHIC be tossed the phail pie before they realize it. If SWTOR is anything like this, count me out for the pre-orders until i see the real deal.
WE DON"T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT WHO BUYS WHAT!!!!
WE ARE WORRIED THAT BY MAKING THIS DECISION, MYTHIC IS WILL SCREW THEMSELVES OVER AND THAT WILL BE THE END OF THE GAME!!!
Bad decisions means chasing away a portion of their players, and we know by common sense that servers are not free and employees are not free either. How will they keep they game up if this decision chases away a good amount of players?
Will the PRAISE SHOUTING KIDS fund MYTHIC after that? Hell no.
Cash shops go with F2P. Is no longer true .. as a matter a fact most P2P have 1 form or another of Cash shop in them right now...
No brainer there...
And you may as well punch you SWToR ticket now , as i guarantee it will have some form of cash shop .. But you will play anyway wont you .. we wont telll lol