[/quote] What i dont get is why any of these people give a rats arse if someone buys 40 lvls(if they Could) who cares .. thats there problem .. And peolple actually do as accounts are sold everyday with max lvl toons ..... so Why do they care ,how does it really effect them.. It doesnt ... They just want something to whine about ..... Now if they were sellin Sov or Warlord gear and RR lvls that would be fdiffernet and i could see people complaining about it .. but the stuff they are selling is meaningless.. [/b][/quote]
Meaningless? PvP RvR centric games with speed buffs and realm ranks to buy in the cash shop is not meaningless. THe gap between a new level 40 and an 80 is simply intoleraable atm. Just wait till level 100s smoke greenhorn 40s in two gcd without getting scratched. I will not spend the cash or be around to see it. Give us more options at the higher ranks not demi-god ezmode mindless grinding of new players.
This is only for people who say "well this doesn't affect me."
There are many ways it will affect you, but I'll just go over the most important.
So this becomes successful, and the execs are now brainstorming how to make even more money. One guys asks, how do we "encourage" more people to buy levels?.............what if, we make it harder to level........brilliant!
Boom, they tweak the exp curve, and if they are smart, they'll do it starting at mid-level. They don't even have to tell you.
Since they have already stooped to charging you for NOT playing the game, the only thing that would stop them from doing the above is out of the goodness of their hearts.
I certainly DO NOT blame them for this - it's their job to maximise profits. You players, on the other hand, get what you deserve (well, not really, that idea itself is stupid). You lessen the choices for the rest of us.
I doubt they let you buy 40 of these and just skip the whole thing. Subtlety is the name of the game in setting up a cash shop. But then it is EA. Still don't know why anyone would pay $400 to get all toons to 40 though. Now if they offered a $400 "bribe the GM" ticket that would allow you to name the person you wanted banned from the game forever... well, that might be worth it.
What makes me ill about all this is that they really have improved the game considerably. It is 100% better than it was at release. It is actually a game worth playing now. But this? This is a bad sign. Going free to play and selling double exp (or rp) pills would have been a better idea. Make it faster for those who want to pay but don't just let them skip past.
And if you are going to go to a free to play model then do it. Don't double dip. Don't try to fuck over your long time customers by expecting them to pay a subscription to play a free to play game. Free to play works because it starts off FREE. It gets new people in and then those who want to pay for convenience can pay for it.
Ultimately, buying a level is not a big deal, a bad sign, but not a big deal in itself. If they start selling medallions or crests or what ever they call them now then it will be over. Buying gear is bad mmmmmkay.
[/quote] What i dont get is why any of these people give a rats arse if someone buys 40 lvls(if they Could) who cares .. thats there problem .. And peolple actually do as accounts are sold everyday with max lvl toons ..... so Why do they care ,how does it really effect them.. It doesnt ... They just want something to whine about ..... Now if they were sellin Sov or Warlord gear and RR lvls that would be fdiffernet and i could see people complaining about it .. but the stuff they are selling is meaningless.. [/b][/quote]
Meaningless? PvP RvR centric games with speed buffs and realm ranks to buy in the cash shop is not meaningless. THe gap between a new level 40 and an 80 is simply intoleraable atm. Just wait till level 100s smoke greenhorn 40s in two gcd without getting scratched. I will not spend the cash or be around to see it. Give us more options at the higher ranks not demi-god ezmode mindless grinding of new players.
Thereare no RR to buy in the cash shop .. Stop yer lies .. There is however , a package to give you the ability to go from 80-100 ..for 15.00 this in leu of no EXP cost .. Orginally there would have been a 30-40 $ cost for the RVR pack that is about to launch .. And if you read the notes it is subsatntial . And encompassin all tiers with many new RvR mechanics .. So instead of 30-40$ you are paying 15.00 .. Unless you want vanity junk then that is your problem .....
The rest is junk ..
Run speed is 3% meh .. i really dont care .. the chance of this having effect in the lakes is minimal . as Most imes you are on your Mount or fightin .. Unless of course you are needing it to run away .. And anyone who plays this game knows how effective that is as the pursuers mount up and will run you down anyhow.. 3% run speed is almost worthless ., You do realize that you can get 6% Run Speed Tali in keeps to attach to yer boots now for months and that has made 0 differenece in game...
My prediction is that the next items on to go on the list will be the ability to purchase more bank vault space, a line at a time. And you know they will eventually sell double exp/rp boosters that last for and hour or two, probably with a 20 hr cooldown. Probably the only reason they skipped these two this time is because they are smaller items and would be better off as single use on one toon type things and they simply don't have a way to deliver them yet. Ideally you would want to sell them from directly in the game. This is why I think we will slowly see that games converted from P2P over to F2P turn into a clusterf---.
I did not lie. Terminology may be wrong. If you do not purchase the $15 "pvp thingy" to enable 80-100 you will get smoked? Is that true? If you do not purchase the $10 "speedy pet thingy" you will be 3% slower? Is that true? You can believe that you are better than most intelectually and it is inconsequential but you will still be 3% slower. Sorry for teh mix up of terminology and probably grammar and of course spelling - Im an american after all.
The more I think about this the more I think they absolutely should offer this sort of thing, maybe even several levels. But once you use your freebie level on a character, it should also give you a little demon pet, that cannot be turned off ever, that follows you around laughing at your character, calling him a loser and a fail noob.
I did not lie. Terminology may be wrong. If you do not purchase the $15 "pvp thingy" to enable 80-100 you will get smoked? Is that true? If you do not purchase the $10 "speedy pet thingy" you will be 3% slower? Is that true? You can believe that you are better than most intelectually and it is inconsequential but you will still be 3% slower. Sorry for teh mix up of terminology and probably grammar and of course spelling - Im an american after all.
Dont know about the pet thing. But when Carrie was talking about the adding of RR 80-100 she mentioned that they were tooning it so that the difference in power at those levels would be much smaller and that it would be much faster to get to 80 in the first place. This was specificaly so that people could continue to progress but those who were slow would still be able to participate well.
I would expect that RR100 will have an obvious advantage if fought 1 on 1 but I doubt they will smoke and 80. My guess is that gear will be a much more important factor. Also, you don't run around alone. You play on a team and as such you should stick with your team. Run solo and you will get smoked by the group that didn't, even if you are the superior realm rank.
Originally posted by VikingGamer Originally posted by Hersaint I did not lie. Terminology may be wrong. If you do not purchase the $15 "pvp thingy" to enable 80-100 you will get smoked? Is that true? If you do not purchase the $10 "speedy pet thingy" you will be 3% slower? Is that true? You can believe that you are better than most intelectually and it is inconsequential but you will still be 3% slower. Sorry for teh mix up of terminology and probably grammar and of course spelling - Im an american after all.
Dont know about the pet thing. But when Carrie was talking about the adding of RR 80-100 she mentioned that they were tooning it so that the difference in power at those levels would be much smaller and that it would be much faster to get to 80 in the first place. This was specificaly so that people could continue to progress but those who were slow would still be able to participate well. I would expect that RR100 will have an obvious advantage if fought 1 on 1 but I doubt they will smoke and 80. My guess is that gear will be a much more important factor. Thanks for the info. Hope it comes to be reality.
So, what are we going to call this lovely new abomination?
P2L (pay to level)?
P2NP (pay to not play)?
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
I did not lie. Terminology may be wrong. If you do not purchase the $15 "pvp thingy" to enable 80-100 you will get smoked? Is that true? If you do not purchase the $10 "speedy pet thingy" you will be 3% slower? Is that true? You can believe that you are better than most intelectually and it is inconsequential but you will still be 3% slower. Sorry for teh mix up of terminology and probably grammar and of course spelling - Im an american after all.
Dont know about the pet thing. But when Carrie was talking about the adding of RR 80-100 she mentioned that they were tooning it so that the difference in power at those levels would be much smaller and that it would be much faster to get to 80 in the first place. This was specificaly so that people could continue to progress but those who were slow would still be able to participate well.
I would expect that RR100 will have an obvious advantage if fought 1 on 1 but I doubt they will smoke and 80. My guess is that gear will be a much more important factor. Also, you don't run around alone. You play on a team and as such you should stick with your team. Run solo and you will get smoked by the group that didn't, even if you are the superior realm rank.
They're also significantly changing gear levels - making decent gear accessible earlier (and some of it for gold instead of the normal bag/turn in only rewards) Of course a new level 40 is going to get smoked by a RR100 player. Most times they're going to get smoked by a RR 60 player. It's no different than in any other PVP game.
As for the 3% pet speed increase - that's a non-issue. As someone stated earlier - you're usually either mounted, or fighting. If you're running - chances are you've already lost. Adding to the fact that there are a LOT of slows in this game - meaning that 3% might get you 1 step further before that WE finally takes you down
What is the fuss? This is EQ X. Why even bother mkaing posts about this kind of originality gameplay void?
Now you can pay to level? Woopy doo da.
Go play a real game where you have to have player skill.
As much as I detect a trolling tone here, the underlying point is very valid. Situations like this (when people are willing to pay to skip portions of the game) are only possible because there's something wrong with the standard way.
And that's what I think some people might not realize, it IS a slippery slope.
I'm sure no one in the long run really cares about 10.00 for one level. But would we see this type of thing several years ago?
People would think you were nuts. "pay 10 dollars for a level pfffttt".
Of course some people could point to xp potions being the same thing in a way but I don't think those are acceptable either.
My opinion is that if the game company is charging to essentially skip over something in their game then that thing isn't worth being in the game.
I mean, imagine skipping over a movie? "for an extra 5 dollars you can see a movie and skip 30 minutes of it!"
In War by purchasing 1 lvl what are you skipping over ... 0, nothing , nada ..............
Schorchien,
The issue is not one level in warhammer. No one cares about one level in warhammer. Well, I'm sure someone does but I don't see that as being the issue at hand. The issue is that as soon as companies see that people are willing to pay for one level, why not two? Why not three? Why not other in-game things?
I'm not saying they "will" do it but show that people are willing to pay for something and companies will rush to fill the void.
Now, that's not a value judgemnent on people buying this or other things. Personally I don't care what people do with their money provided it's legal and moral.
but It is an observation that selling one level was something that was never even thought of as possible or desirable and an observation that if one company is willing to sell somehthing like this then why not more? And if they do then how will our games be balanced in regards to paying for services. Will there be servers that have full service payment options where you can just buy anything and then a server that won't? Is this just a fluke? Will we see more of this in greater quantities?
Will we see more games with these options?
It's something to take note of.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
One thing people need to remember is that the War Tract has been ingame since day one. It's not something new that Mythic only just came up with in order to make a quick buck. Now, using it to skip an extra level in pve is suddenly bad? Why exactly? Frankly, I'm of the opinion that they spent FAR too much time on the PVE portion of this game anyways. Anything to get past that and into the RVR portion could be construed as a good thing.
One thing people need to remember is that the War Tract has been ingame since day one. It's not something new that Mythic only just came up with in order to make a quick buck. Now, using it to skip an extra level in pve is suddenly bad? Why exactly? Frankly, I'm of the opinion that they spent FAR too much time on the PVE portion of this game anyways. Anything to get past that and into the RVR portion could be construed as a good thing.
Um yeah, it's something old they just came up with in order to make a quick buck... why else do you think they put it up for sale?
One thing people need to remember is that the War Tract has been ingame since day one. It's not something new that Mythic only just came up with in order to make a quick buck. Now, using it to skip an extra level in pve is suddenly bad? Why exactly? Frankly, I'm of the opinion that they spent FAR too much time on the PVE portion of this game anyways. Anything to get past that and into the RVR portion could be construed as a good thing.
Well in that case, if the pve portion is to be skipped they shouldn't subject people to it and then offering to let them bypass it for a fee. It could be my opinion but "in my opinion" everything in a game should be something that is either fun or necessary. If something is worth buying out of then it's not worth having there except to make people buy out of it.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
Well in that case, if the pve portion is to be skipped they shouldn't subject people to it and then offering to let them bypass it for a fee. It could be my opinion but "in my opinion" everything in a game should be something that is either fun or necessary. If something is worth buying out of then it's not worth having there except to make people buy out of it.
I'm uncertain as to how this basic logic is eluding some.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
One thing people need to remember is that the War Tract has been ingame since day one. It's not something new that Mythic only just came up with in order to make a quick buck. Now, using it to skip an extra level in pve is suddenly bad? Why exactly? Frankly, I'm of the opinion that they spent FAR too much time on the PVE portion of this game anyways. Anything to get past that and into the RVR portion could be construed as a good thing.
Well in that case, if the pve portion is to be skipped they shouldn't subject people to it and then offering to let them bypass it for a fee. It could be my opinion but "in my opinion" everything in a game should be something that is either fun or necessary. If something is worth buying out of then it's not worth having there except to make people buy out of it.
I don't uderstand why so many people still get their panties in a bunch when they continue to add things to these cash shops that players have been doing underhandedly under the noses of these companies for over 10 years now anyway. Pretty much spitting in the face of all their hard work by completely ignoring the EULA and doing what they want for years.
So what? Now that companies are trying to make an extra buck off the urges of a very small percentage of players that would do this anyway by paying for some smuck in a basement to crack game codes, build a bot and release his creation onto me and my favorite farming spot but instead joe shmoe can click a button and buy a level, thus leaving me to continue doing what I was doing. And now what...I'm suppose to feel like my way of playing is threatened ? Meh. Who care?
Hmmm I take that back...obviously some people do care:
Hackers
Bot makers
Gold sellers
Players with a false sense of online camaraderie that won't invite joe shmoe to his guild or help him level are worried about what he does.
I've fought the good fight about my outrage over 10 years ago when players were scooping up max characters, items and buying levels from other players in AC, DAoC and EQ. Back then greed and convenience of players cracked the lid to Pandora's box. Now companies have decided to finish the job and open it all the way and players are mad? Sweet irony!
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
I don't uderstand why so many people still get their panties in a bunch when they continue to add things to these cash shops that players have been doing underhandedly under the noses of these companies for over 10 years now anyway. Pretty much spitting in the face of all their hard work by completely ignoring the EULA and doing what they want for years.
So what? Now that companies are trying to make an extra buck off the urges of a very small percentage of players that would do this anyway by paying for some smuck in a basement to crack game codes, build a bot and release his creation onto me and my favorite farming spot but instead joe shmoe can click a button and buy a level, thus leaving me to continue doing what I was doing. And now what...I'm suppose to feel like my way of playing is threatened ? Meh. Who care?
Hmmm I take that back...obviously some people do care:
Hackers
Bot makers
Gold sellers
Players with a false sense of online camaraderie that won't invite joe shmoe to his guild or help him level are worried about what he does.
I've fought the good fight about my outrage over 10 years ago when players were scooping up max characters, items and buying levels from other players in AC, DAoC and EQ. Back then greed and convenience of players cracked the lid to Pandora's box. Now companies have decided to finish the job and open it all the way and players are mad? Sweet irony!
well said...
As I pointed out earlier, people have buying this same stuff since the days of UO, and game companies (obviously) can't stop it.. Now, instead of someone else collecting the money, the game developers get it.
I don't do it myself, but really, this changes very little, other than where the money is going from what i can tell.
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Yeah.... we know how APB faired out. But seriously, unless your WOW, don't expect huge returns.
[/quote] What i dont get is why any of these people give a rats arse if someone buys 40 lvls(if they Could) who cares .. thats there problem .. And peolple actually do as accounts are sold everyday with max lvl toons ..... so Why do they care ,how does it really effect them.. It doesnt ... They just want something to whine about ..... Now if they were sellin Sov or Warlord gear and RR lvls that would be fdiffernet and i could see people complaining about it .. but the stuff they are selling is meaningless.. [/b][/quote]
Meaningless? PvP RvR centric games with speed buffs and realm ranks to buy in the cash shop is not meaningless. THe gap between a new level 40 and an 80 is simply intoleraable atm. Just wait till level 100s smoke greenhorn 40s in two gcd without getting scratched. I will not spend the cash or be around to see it. Give us more options at the higher ranks not demi-god ezmode mindless grinding of new players.
This is only for people who say "well this doesn't affect me."
There are many ways it will affect you, but I'll just go over the most important.
So this becomes successful, and the execs are now brainstorming how to make even more money. One guys asks, how do we "encourage" more people to buy levels?.............what if, we make it harder to level........brilliant!
Boom, they tweak the exp curve, and if they are smart, they'll do it starting at mid-level. They don't even have to tell you.
Since they have already stooped to charging you for NOT playing the game, the only thing that would stop them from doing the above is out of the goodness of their hearts.
I certainly DO NOT blame them for this - it's their job to maximise profits. You players, on the other hand, get what you deserve (well, not really, that idea itself is stupid). You lessen the choices for the rest of us.
I doubt they let you buy 40 of these and just skip the whole thing. Subtlety is the name of the game in setting up a cash shop. But then it is EA. Still don't know why anyone would pay $400 to get all toons to 40 though. Now if they offered a $400 "bribe the GM" ticket that would allow you to name the person you wanted banned from the game forever... well, that might be worth it.
What makes me ill about all this is that they really have improved the game considerably. It is 100% better than it was at release. It is actually a game worth playing now. But this? This is a bad sign. Going free to play and selling double exp (or rp) pills would have been a better idea. Make it faster for those who want to pay but don't just let them skip past.
And if you are going to go to a free to play model then do it. Don't double dip. Don't try to fuck over your long time customers by expecting them to pay a subscription to play a free to play game. Free to play works because it starts off FREE. It gets new people in and then those who want to pay for convenience can pay for it.
Ultimately, buying a level is not a big deal, a bad sign, but not a big deal in itself. If they start selling medallions or crests or what ever they call them now then it will be over. Buying gear is bad mmmmmkay.
All die, so die well.
Thereare no RR to buy in the cash shop .. Stop yer lies .. There is however , a package to give you the ability to go from 80-100 ..for 15.00 this in leu of no EXP cost .. Orginally there would have been a 30-40 $ cost for the RVR pack that is about to launch .. And if you read the notes it is subsatntial . And encompassin all tiers with many new RvR mechanics .. So instead of 30-40$ you are paying 15.00 .. Unless you want vanity junk then that is your problem .....
The rest is junk ..
Run speed is 3% meh .. i really dont care .. the chance of this having effect in the lakes is minimal . as Most imes you are on your Mount or fightin .. Unless of course you are needing it to run away .. And anyone who plays this game knows how effective that is as the pursuers mount up and will run you down anyhow.. 3% run speed is almost worthless ., You do realize that you can get 6% Run Speed Tali in keeps to attach to yer boots now for months and that has made 0 differenece in game...
My prediction is that the next items on to go on the list will be the ability to purchase more bank vault space, a line at a time. And you know they will eventually sell double exp/rp boosters that last for and hour or two, probably with a 20 hr cooldown. Probably the only reason they skipped these two this time is because they are smaller items and would be better off as single use on one toon type things and they simply don't have a way to deliver them yet. Ideally you would want to sell them from directly in the game. This is why I think we will slowly see that games converted from P2P over to F2P turn into a clusterf---.
That is my prediction. You heard it here first.
All die, so die well.
I did not lie. Terminology may be wrong. If you do not purchase the $15 "pvp thingy" to enable 80-100 you will get smoked? Is that true? If you do not purchase the $10 "speedy pet thingy" you will be 3% slower? Is that true? You can believe that you are better than most intelectually and it is inconsequential but you will still be 3% slower. Sorry for teh mix up of terminology and probably grammar and of course spelling - Im an american after all.
The more I think about this the more I think they absolutely should offer this sort of thing, maybe even several levels. But once you use your freebie level on a character, it should also give you a little demon pet, that cannot be turned off ever, that follows you around laughing at your character, calling him a loser and a fail noob.
All die, so die well.
Dont know about the pet thing. But when Carrie was talking about the adding of RR 80-100 she mentioned that they were tooning it so that the difference in power at those levels would be much smaller and that it would be much faster to get to 80 in the first place. This was specificaly so that people could continue to progress but those who were slow would still be able to participate well.
I would expect that RR100 will have an obvious advantage if fought 1 on 1 but I doubt they will smoke and 80. My guess is that gear will be a much more important factor. Also, you don't run around alone. You play on a team and as such you should stick with your team. Run solo and you will get smoked by the group that didn't, even if you are the superior realm rank.
All die, so die well.
I would expect that RR100 will have an obvious advantage if fought 1 on 1 but I doubt they will smoke and 80. My guess is that gear will be a much more important factor.
Thanks for the info. Hope it comes to be reality.
So, what are we going to call this lovely new abomination?
P2L (pay to level)?
P2NP (pay to not play)?
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
Scorchien had a good idea - L2P (Learn to Pay)
What is the fuss? This is EQ X. Why even bother mkaing posts about this kind of originality gameplay void?
Now you can pay to level? Woopy doo da.
Go play a real game where you have to have player skill.
They're also significantly changing gear levels - making decent gear accessible earlier (and some of it for gold instead of the normal bag/turn in only rewards) Of course a new level 40 is going to get smoked by a RR100 player. Most times they're going to get smoked by a RR 60 player. It's no different than in any other PVP game.
As for the 3% pet speed increase - that's a non-issue. As someone stated earlier - you're usually either mounted, or fighting. If you're running - chances are you've already lost. Adding to the fact that there are a LOT of slows in this game - meaning that 3% might get you 1 step further before that WE finally takes you down
As much as I detect a trolling tone here, the underlying point is very valid. Situations like this (when people are willing to pay to skip portions of the game) are only possible because there's something wrong with the standard way.
Schorchien,
The issue is not one level in warhammer. No one cares about one level in warhammer. Well, I'm sure someone does but I don't see that as being the issue at hand. The issue is that as soon as companies see that people are willing to pay for one level, why not two? Why not three? Why not other in-game things?
I'm not saying they "will" do it but show that people are willing to pay for something and companies will rush to fill the void.
Now, that's not a value judgemnent on people buying this or other things. Personally I don't care what people do with their money provided it's legal and moral.
but It is an observation that selling one level was something that was never even thought of as possible or desirable and an observation that if one company is willing to sell somehthing like this then why not more? And if they do then how will our games be balanced in regards to paying for services. Will there be servers that have full service payment options where you can just buy anything and then a server that won't? Is this just a fluke? Will we see more of this in greater quantities?
Will we see more games with these options?
It's something to take note of.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
One thing people need to remember is that the War Tract has been ingame since day one. It's not something new that Mythic only just came up with in order to make a quick buck. Now, using it to skip an extra level in pve is suddenly bad? Why exactly? Frankly, I'm of the opinion that they spent FAR too much time on the PVE portion of this game anyways. Anything to get past that and into the RVR portion could be construed as a good thing.
Truly pathetic. Glad I left that train wreck 3 weeks after launch.
Um yeah, it's something old they just came up with in order to make a quick buck... why else do you think they put it up for sale?
Well in that case, if the pve portion is to be skipped they shouldn't subject people to it and then offering to let them bypass it for a fee. It could be my opinion but "in my opinion" everything in a game should be something that is either fun or necessary. If something is worth buying out of then it's not worth having there except to make people buy out of it.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
I'm uncertain as to how this basic logic is eluding some.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
I'd like to believe EA is behind all of this but at this point I don't really care anymore. It's a good thing I cancelled my subscription.
Well said.
I don't uderstand why so many people still get their panties in a bunch when they continue to add things to these cash shops that players have been doing underhandedly under the noses of these companies for over 10 years now anyway. Pretty much spitting in the face of all their hard work by completely ignoring the EULA and doing what they want for years.
So what? Now that companies are trying to make an extra buck off the urges of a very small percentage of players that would do this anyway by paying for some smuck in a basement to crack game codes, build a bot and release his creation onto me and my favorite farming spot but instead joe shmoe can click a button and buy a level, thus leaving me to continue doing what I was doing. And now what...I'm suppose to feel like my way of playing is threatened ? Meh. Who care?
Hmmm I take that back...obviously some people do care:
Hackers
Bot makers
Gold sellers
Players with a false sense of online camaraderie that won't invite joe shmoe to his guild or help him level are worried about what he does.
I've fought the good fight about my outrage over 10 years ago when players were scooping up max characters, items and buying levels from other players in AC, DAoC and EQ. Back then greed and convenience of players cracked the lid to Pandora's box. Now companies have decided to finish the job and open it all the way and players are mad? Sweet irony!
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
well said...
As I pointed out earlier, people have buying this same stuff since the days of UO, and game companies (obviously) can't stop it.. Now, instead of someone else collecting the money, the game developers get it.
I don't do it myself, but really, this changes very little, other than where the money is going from what i can tell.