The problems of FF XIV do not lie in it's "code". It's the gamedesign that needs to be replaced. Yes i said, "replaced" because a few tweaks won't cut it. I predicted it months ago and it seems to happen now: They pretty much have to start from scratch and they know it. Firing the whole team responsible is the final proof.
Well seeing as how the game is still online and being updated today (literraly today, todays the dec version update) without any of this "starting from scratch" stuff tells me that they aren't doing that at all.
And the whole team was not fired, the original director was demoted to LEAD GAME DESIGNER.
yes, enjoy all of the fun new "content"...hahaha - you must have extremely low standards at this point.
not the point, what im saying is that theres nothing to suggest that their going to and start from scratch and replace the whole design.
Yes, replacing the entire core team is no indication that they are trying to "redirect" the game towards being fun. /sarcasm off
Thats a myth, how can you say the repalced the entire core team when the new Lead Game designer is one of the guys from that very core old team that was allegedly "replaced"? that statement is a lie.
"I will Turn your name into a synonym for weakness"
Did I even say anything at all about code documentation? No, I didnt, what are you rambling on about? Try to think clearly and make some reasonable points. Clearly there is more to all of this than programming, stop obsessing over 1 single example.
Anyone with experience and some common sense knows its a large time investment to come in and take over an entire project that has MANY different elements, not only programming. Regarless of the degree of diffuculty, its simply a very time consuming task getting yourself familiar with what is going on and learning all the important details involved.
So please dont tell me that I have no clue, I was simply proposing some thoughts for your consideration - it was not my intent to make your head spin off your shoulders, however amusing.
SE has already achieved the hardest part of piecing together a piece of working software. I would agree with your assessment if the game was still in early development, but it is not. The game just needs a few missing elements and tweaks to it's existing game mechanics. However, if you believe that this should be wow with a final fantasy theme, then I guess it would look like a monumental task.
Thats a myth, how can you say the repalced the entire core team when the new Lead Game designer is one of the guys on the old team? that statement is a lie.
Director/Producer = new guy.
Co-Director = ex-character animation director
Lead Game Designer = ex-director, his job didn't change much if at all.
Lead Programmer = worked on both XI and XIV from 2005 to 2010 while continuing on XI mainly for 3 months before the switch.
Lead Artist = ex-FFXI artist
Lead UI designer, technical advisor and producer/director are the only completely new personnel in the team, however all have directed other games in the past.
Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
Yup, I play games to have fun, and guess what *SHOCK HORROR* I actually, you know, have fun in this game!!
i know whowuddathunkit!!
It seems that either you dont have fun, or you just dont play?
If you dont have fun then mayhap its worth looking for another game to get your 'Fun factor' from?
Why do you think game has no monthly sub and lost majority of its player base? 'i am sure because they all went to greener pastures to look for 'fun factor'.
Sources indicating Lost Playerbase?
and i like how you edited the F2P outta the statement again before I could chastise you Spoiling Mah Fun
Really? under what rock are you living for all this time? are you telling me game has not lost half of its player base? wow..so according to you there are 200K or more active players right now?
as a 34 year old gamer, who works 40 hours a week while living with my partner, i dont actually spend a massive amount of time playing the game, i log on at weekends (when partner is at work and I ahve time) and then run a load of leves, do some behests at camps and then do some crafting etc)
I dont belong in a LS, have no problem getting PUG to run levels etc so cant say I have noticed a drop in population
The problems of FF XIV do not lie in it's "code". It's the gamedesign that needs to be replaced. Yes i said, "replaced" because a few tweaks won't cut it. I predicted it months ago and it seems to happen now: They pretty much have to start from scratch and they know it. Firing the whole team responsible is the final proof.
Well seeing as how the game is still online and being updated today (literraly today, todays the dec version update) without any of this "starting from scratch" stuff tells me that they aren't doing that at all.
And the whole team was not fired, the original director was demoted to LEAD GAME DESIGNER.
yes, enjoy all of the fun new "content"...hahaha - you must have extremely low standards at this point.
not the point, what im saying is that theres nothing to suggest that their going to and start from scratch and replace the whole design.
Yes, replacing the entire core team is no indication that they are trying to "redirect" the game towards being fun. /sarcasm off
Thats a myth, how can you say the repalced the entire core team when the new Lead Game designer is one of the guys from that very core old team that was allegedly "replaced"? that statement is a lie.
"Allegedly replace" - Perhaps you dont follow the news on the lodestone. Here is a direct quote from the lodestone:
"After thorough deliberation on how to meet those expectations, it was decided that the most viable step was to approach improvements under new leadership and with a restructured team"
Did I even say anything at all about code documentation? No, I didnt, what are you rambling on about? Try to think clearly and make some reasonable points. Clearly there is more to all of this than programming, stop obsessing over 1 single example.
Anyone with experience and some common sense knows its a large time investment to come in and take over an entire project that has MANY different elements, not only programming. Regarless of the degree of diffuculty, its simply a very time consuming task getting yourself familiar with what is going on and learning all the important details involved.
So please dont tell me that I have no clue, I was simply proposing some thoughts for your consideration - it was not my intent to make your head spin off your shoulders, however amusing.
SE has already achieved the hardest part of piecing together a piece of working software. I would agree with your assessment if the game was still in early development, but it is not. The game just needs a few missing elements and tweaks to it's existing game mechanics. However, if you believe that this should be wow with a final fantasy theme, then I guess it would look like a monumental task.
A few missing elements and "tweaks" ? Are you joking? This game clealy needs more than just a few tweaks or they wouldnt have replace all those people. Have you even played this game? Have you read the reviews and comments from the player base?? And addidionally, have you actually played a fun game so you have something to compare it to? What a joke.
The problems of FF XIV do not lie in it's "code". It's the gamedesign that needs to be replaced. Yes i said, "replaced" because a few tweaks won't cut it. I predicted it months ago and it seems to happen now: They pretty much have to start from scratch and they know it. Firing the whole team responsible is the final proof.
Well seeing as how the game is still online and being updated today (literraly today, todays the dec version update) without any of this "starting from scratch" stuff tells me that they aren't doing that at all.
And the whole team was not fired, the original director was demoted to LEAD GAME DESIGNER.
yes, enjoy all of the fun new "content"...hahaha - you must have extremely low standards at this point.
not the point, what im saying is that theres nothing to suggest that their going to and start from scratch and replace the whole design.
Yes, replacing the entire core team is no indication that they are trying to "redirect" the game towards being fun. /sarcasm off
Thats a myth, how can you say the repalced the entire core team when the new Lead Game designer is one of the guys from that very core old team that was allegedly "replaced"? that statement is a lie.
"Allegedly replace" - Perhaps you dont follow the news on the lodestone. Here is a direct quote from the lodestone:
"After thorough deliberation on how to meet those expectations, it was decided that the most viable step was to approach improvements under new leadership and with a restructured team"
What lines, it tells you right there on the leadstone what the new positions are, and the lead game designer was already there before as director, yeah, a lot of the team was replaced, but to say that they fired the entire team is in fact a myth, because its not true.
"I will Turn your name into a synonym for weakness"
The problems of FF XIV do not lie in it's "code". It's the gamedesign that needs to be replaced. Yes i said, "replaced" because a few tweaks won't cut it. I predicted it months ago and it seems to happen now: They pretty much have to start from scratch and they know it. Firing the whole team responsible is the final proof.
Well seeing as how the game is still online and being updated today (literraly today, todays the dec version update) without any of this "starting from scratch" stuff tells me that they aren't doing that at all.
And the whole team was not fired, the original director was demoted to LEAD GAME DESIGNER.
yes, enjoy all of the fun new "content"...hahaha - you must have extremely low standards at this point.
not the point, what im saying is that theres nothing to suggest that their going to and start from scratch and replace the whole design.
Yes, replacing the entire core team is no indication that they are trying to "redirect" the game towards being fun. /sarcasm off
Thats a myth, how can you say the repalced the entire core team when the new Lead Game designer is one of the guys from that very core old team that was allegedly "replaced"? that statement is a lie.
"Allegedly replace" - Perhaps you dont follow the news on the lodestone. Here is a direct quote from the lodestone:
"After thorough deliberation on how to meet those expectations, it was decided that the most viable step was to approach improvements under new leadership and with a restructured team"
What lines, it tells you right there on the leadstone what the new positions are, and the lead game designer was already there before as director, yeah, a lot of the team was replaced, but to say that they fired the entire team is in fact a myth, because its not true.
Sir, you are grasping for straws, I said the core team as you even quoted above. Here is another direct quote from that same page that you didnt read apparently ( I underlined and bolded the important part so that you dont miss it) :
"These members will make up the development team's new core-a core dedicated to ensuring we achieve a level of enjoyability that will more than satisfy our customers."
The problems of FF XIV do not lie in it's "code". It's the gamedesign that needs to be replaced. Yes i said, "replaced" because a few tweaks won't cut it. I predicted it months ago and it seems to happen now: They pretty much have to start from scratch and they know it. Firing the whole team responsible is the final proof.
Well seeing as how the game is still online and being updated today (literraly today, todays the dec version update) without any of this "starting from scratch" stuff tells me that they aren't doing that at all.
And the whole team was not fired, the original director was demoted to LEAD GAME DESIGNER.
yes, enjoy all of the fun new "content"...hahaha - you must have extremely low standards at this point.
not the point, what im saying is that theres nothing to suggest that their going to and start from scratch and replace the whole design.
Yes, replacing the entire core team is no indication that they are trying to "redirect" the game towards being fun. /sarcasm off
Thats a myth, how can you say the repalced the entire core team when the new Lead Game designer is one of the guys from that very core old team that was allegedly "replaced"? that statement is a lie.
"Allegedly replace" - Perhaps you dont follow the news on the lodestone. Here is a direct quote from the lodestone:
"After thorough deliberation on how to meet those expectations, it was decided that the most viable step was to approach improvements under new leadership and with a restructured team"
What lines, it tells you right there on the leadstone what the new positions are, and the lead game designer was already there before as director, yeah, a lot of the team was replaced, but to say that they fired the entire team is in fact a myth, because its not true.
Sir, you are grasping for straws, I said the core team as you even quoted above. Here is another direct quote from that same page that you didnt read apparently ( I underlined and bolded the important part so that you dont miss it) :
"These members will make up the development team's new core-a core dedicated to ensuring we achieve a level of enjoyability that will more than satisfy our customers."
This new core includes a guy that was the previous director in an important position (lead game designer), thats not a straw, its a fact. They did not replaced the whole team, saying so is lying (cause its not true).
"I will Turn your name into a synonym for weakness"
The problems of FF XIV do not lie in it's "code". It's the gamedesign that needs to be replaced. Yes i said, "replaced" because a few tweaks won't cut it. I predicted it months ago and it seems to happen now: They pretty much have to start from scratch and they know it. Firing the whole team responsible is the final proof.
Well seeing as how the game is still online and being updated today (literraly today, todays the dec version update) without any of this "starting from scratch" stuff tells me that they aren't doing that at all.
And the whole team was not fired, the original director was demoted to LEAD GAME DESIGNER.
yes, enjoy all of the fun new "content"...hahaha - you must have extremely low standards at this point.
not the point, what im saying is that theres nothing to suggest that their going to and start from scratch and replace the whole design.
Yes, replacing the entire core team is no indication that they are trying to "redirect" the game towards being fun. /sarcasm off
Thats a myth, how can you say the repalced the entire core team when the new Lead Game designer is one of the guys from that very core old team that was allegedly "replaced"? that statement is a lie.
"Allegedly replace" - Perhaps you dont follow the news on the lodestone. Here is a direct quote from the lodestone:
"After thorough deliberation on how to meet those expectations, it was decided that the most viable step was to approach improvements under new leadership and with a restructured team"
What lines, it tells you right there on the leadstone what the new positions are, and the lead game designer was already there before as director, yeah, a lot of the team was replaced, but to say that they fired the entire team is in fact a myth, because its not true.
Sir, you are grasping for straws, I said the core team as you even quoted above. Here is another direct quote from that same page that you didnt read apparently ( I underlined and bolded the important part so that you dont miss it) :
"These members will make up the development team's new core-a core dedicated to ensuring we achieve a level of enjoyability that will more than satisfy our customers."
This new core includes a guy that was the previous director in an important position (lead game designer), thats not a straw, its a fact. They did not replaced the whole team, saying so is lying (cause its not true).
Again, i didnt say whole team, I said core team, which is exactly what it says on the lodestone. How dense are you? You even quoted my replies above and you are still saying the wrong thing. /done with you
The problems of FF XIV do not lie in it's "code". It's the gamedesign that needs to be replaced. Yes i said, "replaced" because a few tweaks won't cut it. I predicted it months ago and it seems to happen now: They pretty much have to start from scratch and they know it. Firing the whole team responsible is the final proof.
Well seeing as how the game is still online and being updated today (literraly today, todays the dec version update) without any of this "starting from scratch" stuff tells me that they aren't doing that at all.
And the whole team was not fired, the original director was demoted to LEAD GAME DESIGNER.
yes, enjoy all of the fun new "content"...hahaha - you must have extremely low standards at this point.
not the point, what im saying is that theres nothing to suggest that their going to and start from scratch and replace the whole design.
Yes, replacing the entire core team is no indication that they are trying to "redirect" the game towards being fun. /sarcasm off
Thats a myth, how can you say the repalced the entire core team when the new Lead Game designer is one of the guys from that very core old team that was allegedly "replaced"? that statement is a lie.
"Allegedly replace" - Perhaps you dont follow the news on the lodestone. Here is a direct quote from the lodestone:
"After thorough deliberation on how to meet those expectations, it was decided that the most viable step was to approach improvements under new leadership and with a restructured team"
What lines, it tells you right there on the leadstone what the new positions are, and the lead game designer was already there before as director, yeah, a lot of the team was replaced, but to say that they fired the entire team is in fact a myth, because its not true.
Sir, you are grasping for straws, I said the core team as you even quoted above. Here is another direct quote from that same page that you didnt read apparently ( I underlined and bolded the important part so that you dont miss it) :
"These members will make up the development team's new core-a core dedicated to ensuring we achieve a level of enjoyability that will more than satisfy our customers."
This new core includes a guy that was the previous director in an important position (lead game designer), thats not a straw, its a fact. They did not replaced the whole team, saying so is lying (cause its not true).
Again, i didnt say whole team, I said core team, which is exactly what it says on the lodestone. How dense are you?
And its not true, you cannot say that they replaced the whole core team when it didnt happen. I see the core team and theres this guy that was already there before, that means it was not replaced entirely. Only in mythland is that true.
"I will Turn your name into a synonym for weakness"
I am a member of 4 linkshell and guess what? even they hardly chat to eachother. Outside of linkshell the community is dead anyways. i sometimes wonder if its only Besaid which sucks so much. For a role playing server its awfuly dead.
I am a member of 4 linkshell and guess what? even they hardly chat to eachother. Outside of linkshell the community is dead anyways. i sometimes wonder if its only Besaid which sucks so much. For a role playing server its awfuly dead.
You have 4 Ls & they hardly talk. Are you surprised? I'll tell you why; even the people that are logged in aren't really playing/there.
If SE was to boot afk'ers after 15-30 mins, the pop would drop to half of its already low numbers.
Even then, the remainning would mostly be OCD "drone" crafters...
Well, I think it's more that the 'Forever Unhappy Gang' has found a new favorite subject to tear to pieces - Rift - as starving wolves, so that means that they're pouring less of their misery and boredom with MMO's on the FFXIV forum
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums: Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
Well, I think it's more that the 'Forever Unhappy Gang' has found a new favorite subject to tear to pieces - Rift - as starving wolves, so that means that they're pouring less of their misery and boredom with MMO's on the FFXIV forum
Rift isn't even on my radar, but I'm willing to put a lifetime supply of fish tacos on the line that says that Rift will blow FFXIV out the water in not only quality, but also in paid subscription numbers.
FFXIV has been beaten to a mushy pulp by critics and lovers of the FF franchise not because they are part of the "Forever Unhappy Gang," but because the game is a huge steaming pile of antfarms.
Well, I think it's more that the 'Forever Unhappy Gang' has found a new favorite subject to tear to pieces - Rift - as starving wolves, so that means that they're pouring less of their misery and boredom with MMO's on the FFXIV forum
Rift isn't even on my radar, but I'm willing to put a lifetime supply of fish tacos on the line that says that Rift will blow FFXIV out the water in not only quality, but also in paid subscription numbers.
FFXIV has been beaten to a mushy pulp by critics and lovers of the FF franchise not because they are part of the "Forever Unhappy Gang," but because the game is a huge steaming pile of antfarms.
Amen.
Rift is a good game and FFXIV is a bad game..it is just that simple. The day Trion's main guy gets sacked, it goes free on monthly basis and critics and reviewers give it the lowest scores in history of MMOS (even though it is impossible to beat FFXIV in low scores) we can say Rift is truely awful.
Cyphers! Why didn't you tell me that the Forever Unhappy Gang decided to move on to greener pastures! I've been wanting to join that gang for the longest!
*Gets pitchfork + torch + hairspray*
Ok so the new target is Rift... I will need to warm up.
Rift is such a bad game because it rhymes with lift and thrift!
*Runs off into the sunset hoping to find the Forever Unhappy Gang*
And scene...
Bows
I would like to thank Why So Serious™ for helping me realize my dream performing in a Broadway musical!
Cyphers! Why didn't you tell me that the Forever Unhappy Gang decided to move on to greener pastures! I've been wanting to join that gang for the longest!
*Gets pitchfork + torch + hairspray*
Ok so the new target is Rift... I will need to warm up.
Rift is such a bad game because it rhymes with lift and thrift!
*Runs off into the sunset hoping to find the Forever Unhappy Gang*
And scene...
Bows
I would like to thank Why So Serious™ for helping me realize my dream performing in a Broadway musical!
Comments
Thats a myth, how can you say the repalced the entire core team when the new Lead Game designer is one of the guys from that very core old team that was allegedly "replaced"? that statement is a lie.
"I will Turn your name into a synonym for weakness"
SE has already achieved the hardest part of piecing together a piece of working software. I would agree with your assessment if the game was still in early development, but it is not. The game just needs a few missing elements and tweaks to it's existing game mechanics. However, if you believe that this should be wow with a final fantasy theme, then I guess it would look like a monumental task.
Director/Producer = new guy.
Co-Director = ex-character animation director
Lead Game Designer = ex-director, his job didn't change much if at all.
Lead Programmer = worked on both XI and XIV from 2005 to 2010 while continuing on XI mainly for 3 months before the switch.
Lead Artist = ex-FFXI artist
Lead UI designer, technical advisor and producer/director are the only completely new personnel in the team, however all have directed other games in the past.
as a 34 year old gamer, who works 40 hours a week while living with my partner, i dont actually spend a massive amount of time playing the game, i log on at weekends (when partner is at work and I ahve time) and then run a load of leves, do some behests at camps and then do some crafting etc)
I dont belong in a LS, have no problem getting PUG to run levels etc so cant say I have noticed a drop in population
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ab/Norsefire-logo.png
"Allegedly replace" - Perhaps you dont follow the news on the lodestone. Here is a direct quote from the lodestone:
"After thorough deliberation on how to meet those expectations, it was decided that the most viable step was to approach improvements under new leadership and with a restructured team"
Learn how to read between the lines.
Full details about the new team are here: http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=c499e4c5df4f3f0fde1fb47a28574cb9c3991c9f
A few missing elements and "tweaks" ? Are you joking? This game clealy needs more than just a few tweaks or they wouldnt have replace all those people. Have you even played this game? Have you read the reviews and comments from the player base?? And addidionally, have you actually played a fun game so you have something to compare it to? What a joke.
What lines, it tells you right there on the leadstone what the new positions are, and the lead game designer was already there before as director, yeah, a lot of the team was replaced, but to say that they fired the entire team is in fact a myth, because its not true.
"I will Turn your name into a synonym for weakness"
Sir, you are grasping for straws, I said the core team as you even quoted above. Here is another direct quote from that same page that you didnt read apparently ( I underlined and bolded the important part so that you dont miss it) :
"These members will make up the development team's new core-a core dedicated to ensuring we achieve a level of enjoyability that will more than satisfy our customers."
This new core includes a guy that was the previous director in an important position (lead game designer), thats not a straw, its a fact. They did not replaced the whole team, saying so is lying (cause its not true).
"I will Turn your name into a synonym for weakness"
Again, i didnt say whole team, I said core team, which is exactly what it says on the lodestone. How dense are you? You even quoted my replies above and you are still saying the wrong thing. /done with you
And its not true, you cannot say that they replaced the whole core team when it didnt happen. I see the core team and theres this guy that was already there before, that means it was not replaced entirely. Only in mythland is that true.
"I will Turn your name into a synonym for weakness"
how do you know if it not true prove it ^_^. unless you work with them so if its true or not no one knows :P
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Icons over the head of npc's wont mean anything really cause you only use aethere for quests.
Would just be nice to see who sales what and which NPCs repair gear.
Global chat won't fix the games dead population. Fixing the game will hopefully do that.
No matter what ,dead or thriving, I would hate to have global chat. Global chat won't solve any problems , it'll just start them... lots of them.
Well if they did it, im sure it'd be optional , still Id rather they put their time and effort into fixing actual problems.
I love snails.
I love every kinda snail.
I just want to hug them all, but I cant.
Cant hug every snail.
I am a member of 4 linkshell and guess what? even they hardly chat to eachother. Outside of linkshell the community is dead anyways. i sometimes wonder if its only Besaid which sucks so much. For a role playing server its awfuly dead.
Bite Me
You have 4 Ls & they hardly talk. Are you surprised? I'll tell you why; even the people that are logged in aren't really playing/there.
If SE was to boot afk'ers after 15-30 mins, the pop would drop to half of its already low numbers.
Even then, the remainning would mostly be OCD "drone" crafters...
Lets get back on topic guys. Thanks.
its dead Jim
(both the topic and the game)
LOL!!!
Guild Wars 2's 50 minutes game play video:
http://n4g.com/news/592585/guild-wars-2-50-minutes-of-pure-gameplay
Everything We Know about GW2:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/287180/page/1
Well, I think it's more that the 'Forever Unhappy Gang' has found a new favorite subject to tear to pieces - Rift - as starving wolves, so that means that they're pouring less of their misery and boredom with MMO's on the FFXIV forum
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
Rift isn't even on my radar, but I'm willing to put a lifetime supply of fish tacos on the line that says that Rift will blow FFXIV out the water in not only quality, but also in paid subscription numbers.
FFXIV has been beaten to a mushy pulp by critics and lovers of the FF franchise not because they are part of the "Forever Unhappy Gang," but because the game is a huge steaming pile of antfarms.
Amen.
Rift is a good game and FFXIV is a bad game..it is just that simple. The day Trion's main guy gets sacked, it goes free on monthly basis and critics and reviewers give it the lowest scores in history of MMOS (even though it is impossible to beat FFXIV in low scores) we can say Rift is truely awful.
Bite Me
*Puts down "How to join a gang in 2010 101"*
*Sips on some delicious Emperor's White Tea*
*Looks at Cyphers with the squinty eyed look*
Cyphers! Why didn't you tell me that the Forever Unhappy Gang decided to move on to greener pastures! I've been wanting to join that gang for the longest!
*Gets pitchfork + torch + hairspray*
Ok so the new target is Rift... I will need to warm up.
Rift is such a bad game because it rhymes with lift and thrift!
*Runs off into the sunset hoping to find the Forever Unhappy Gang*
And scene...
Bows
I would like to thank Why So Serious™ for helping me realize my dream performing in a Broadway musical!
bravo..bravo... /claps.
Autograph please ;p
Bite Me