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I usually don't write reviews, I typically don't comment on games that I don't like, I'm not a fanboy of this genre or that genre, if it's fun it's fun. But after trying out RIFT, I have one thing to say. It Blows. Hard.
It's the same 'ol situation, same 'ol ball and chain.
Kill 5 of this, collect 5 of that. I mean seriously is there nothing new or interesting that these devs can conceive of? Within the first 20 minutes I was bored, but figured I'd give the game a go. I managed to get my dude up to lvl 17 and uninstalled it.
As for the gameplay, it kinda felt like WoW on meth, if that makes sense. And not to mention that the entire game is basically on rails. I mean if I want an on rails experience, I'll go play a one person RPG that at least has a story and compelling quests.
Crap, utter crap. But if you like to kill 1000's of mobs for l00t, like doing collection quests, and enjoy repetitive game play with perty grafx, this is the game for you.
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Care to elaborate how things should be so as to not be conceived as "crap"?
A lot of people like to complain and say "oh, it's just this... and that... same old same old", but they never mention what game isn't or give examples of what would make it better.
Honestly, I cant actually remember what level I reached, but I basically reached the end of that starter zone.
While there are always surprises to be had, truth is when you have played as many games for as many years as I have, you can get a pretty good sense of what a new game will be like in the first couple of hours.
If I had not played this formula many times before, I am sure i would have enjoyed it fine. But from EQ to WOW to WH etc etc... this really does not change much. Chronicles of Spellborn - now there was an original approach to gameplay, which, sadly, sank without a trace, because everyone was so busy playing this formula. Ah well...
Sorry dude, I have played way too many hours of this style of game not to recognize exactly the same thing when I see it. RIFT obviously has some nice qualities - it's clearly a professional production from the get go - but the new fresh thing? C'mon.
Seriously, the idea that I have to sink a dozen hours into a game to decide if I like it? Give me a break. Two hours is plenty to get a flavour and make a decision.
what games arent crap.
here's just a few . lotro, eve, aoc, ddo, uo, fallen earth, dakfall, vindictus (for what it does), ryzom, gobal agenda. Are all different and are all unique and offer something unique to the player, rift, is poop.
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Darkfall,
Never done any quests in that game...
It seems you are all board of the same old same old lvl to what ever is max lvl then raid ect ect ect.
And its a sad fact that GW2 and TOR will be crappy TAB Target hold your hand same old same old. They will both have a slight twist on the quests but its gona feel like you've been there done that.
There are MMO's out there that arnt like this you know.
The biggest problem is there are too many rifts. The community is all over them now, but wait a month or 2. No one will give a shit at all. It s too bad, I really wanted to like this game, but not in it s state as a typical, boring fed ex quest mill, with a twist of annoyance.
so you classify a polished game as AAA mmo, what if a game comes along that is polish and greatly innovative? AAAA? :P
I agree with Rifts being boring after a while, from a RPG standpoint, Rifts hold no momumental changes to the storyline, yeah it is invasion from some random demon called Regulos, but it is also a side event, when you are bored with quest, the fact that a game called Rift with a Dynamic Event system called Rifts which isn't the privotal point of the story (lol story)
Yes a lot of people level'd with finishing Rifts, but they are mainly because of burnout from boring quest, no one goes into the game and go "I'm going to complete all the Rifts till endgame" (goodluck grinding)
Rifts is a great idea, but it's just isn't polished (thats right) and thought out enough, it isn't integrated and implemented into the game correctly, or in a better word, thoughtfully. A lone great idea isn't enough, integration is a vital part of success for a game, just like sport or anything else, having a great forehand won't win you games, but to be able to set up for your great forehand will.
ps: to all people cancelling their pre-order:
it is understandable that you don't want to play the game, a huge part of the game is the same old same old, but in reality, it really is the better options out there (if you are staying in the mmo genre that is :P)
hope you all have fun .
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
I just hit lvl 21 and got totally bored too. I am so tired of pointless killquests with a bad story and no challenge.. please, GW2, bring us some change. Make your dynamic event system truely dynamic! Don't let me kill rats. Don't even let me read stupid questlogs which give me totally stupid reasons for doing what I have to do.
I really hope GW2 delivers more on the dynamic part and makes the world seem alive and breathing. Let the events have a bigger influence on the game world than just not being able to turn in the 20th killquest you did that day.
Ive played EVE Online and the PvE content is the same as everyone elses. only difference between EVE Online and say SWG is that EVE Online only has 1 server. The major downside to EVE Online is that it takes real world time to train 1 skill. The higher the skill level the longer it takes to learn. I quit cause i didnt want to wait 6 weeks to learn 1 skill point. Xyson is taking an already used idea(AD&D 2.5e already used this idea and it was removed in 3.0). Quit trying to fake yourself that there are MMO's with Original Ideas out there cause there arent. the Video Game Industry has long worked under the old adage, "The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese."
"Possibly we humans can exist without actually having to fight. But many of us have chosen to fight. For what reason? To protect something? Protect what? Ourselves? The future? If we kill people to protect ourselves and this future, then what sort of future is it, and what will we have become? There is no future for those who have died. And what of those who did the killing? Is happiness to be found in a future that is grasped with blood stained hands? Is that the truth?"
I'm 29 years old I guess that qualifies me for an adult.
I just found Eve to be boring, some people may like it, I didn't but if it's your thing then go play it. I'm not here to prevent people from playing a game they enjoy.
As far as the ATI/AMD issues, I just bought a new card ATI 6850 so I feel your pain. That is the major problem I have with this game , aswell.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
I would play swg over EVE any day , even in its current state.
I actually liked swg, for the most part.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
Out of the games you mentioned that I have played.
Global Agenda was garbage IMO, Fallen Earth was bland and boring, Vindictus was a shit instanced game. Was fun for the first 5 minute battle but then the true game rears its ugly head and you see it for what it is. A co-op pile of shit.
AoC I actually liked it, but then again I didn't like it enough to sub the game. Graphics were pretty, Tortage was nice, but then when you see how empty the rest of the game is you start to wander if it is worth buying.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
Beta 6
I try hard to find fun....but nothing keep me in, sorry for all fans.
got Aion(ized) once, will never get one more boring game again.
go play LOTRO at least it free.
Best of luck to all who loves Rift, it not bad, it just nothing new / much.
try before buy, even if it's a game to avoid bad surprises.
Worst surprises for me: Aion, GW2
I hav'nt got as far in as the OP only mid 20s at the moment . But so far I'm loving it . If I were to do rift after rift I would burn out but theres quests , instances , world pvp and warfronts (battlegrounds) so its not just about grinding rifts . The game is pretty generic and is a mish mash of whats gone before but its also well put together and a lot of fun . The thing is I think the OP may be burnt out by mmos so its going to take a lot to impress him . I too have seen it all before in fantasy mmos but i m quite aware that its going to take a long long time for there to be the next great leap forward and RIFT is proberbly about as good as its going to get for quite a while to come so if you don't like this then maybe its time to give up on the fantasy mmo genre for a while . Maybe try EvE or Pirates of the burning sea or look for games with a totally different angle . Given the mediocre run of fantasy based mmo games we've seen in the last half a decade or so this proberbly isn't saying much but RIFT is the best one with a strong pvp element I've seen since WoW was released , Whether the endgame will bair up is another matter . But I think Trion are pretty clued up so perhaps it will . I gather theres been well over a million pre-orders now so they are getting something right .
I was bored with this game after the 3rd rift event. I have yet to log into this round of beta testing.
There is nothing new, it just the same old stuff.
As to the person who said go play lotro its free, yea it might be but its just as boring.
I did not pre order the game I saw the light in the 4th beta.
Kyleran posted two replies that caught my attention.
It happens a lot of consumers like those design choices. Let's simplify it to Theme Park and Sandbox. There are companies working on new titles of both styles. However, Theme Park being much more popular than Sandbox, they are being released at a much higher rate.
I believe the view on a website such as mmorpg.com is a bit skewed against theme park games, as I feel like a lot of players are coming here in quest of a new MMORPG that would replace their current game. Hence why this long quest for new, innovative, next gen game is important. Though when a company is scouting the market for a new business opportunity, money doesn't lie. :P
There is nothing much to debate ihere. A lot of posters in this single thread already made up their mind (negative or positive), and despite those discussion in many, many different threads, they are still posting the same opinion in every Rift thread as if those previous discussion never existed.
Also, there isn't much to talk about with 'same old', 'I'm bored to tears', 'a Disney DVD sounded more interesting'... Somewhat boring I might add. Note that it would be the same if the topic was 'Rift is so good I preordered 2 CE copies'.
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Now back to the main topic, one thing to mention is I'd be interested to know if playing in a group would have changed your point of view. I think being in guilds/group of friends is likely to have a major impact on your point of view in the case of Rift, where rifts, invasions, warfronts, dungeons and possibly most of the end game is GvE or GvG. That is if the alpha of a group isn't a negative Nancy who hates everything new ;-)
From a personal experience, every MMO I played alone, by myself and I didn't get involved in guilds, I never played more than a month. I just lose interest and move on to a different game. Games I played with guilds, I played forever (except WotLK which was horribad IMHO).
Im a 22 rogue in gloamwood, im bored to death nuff said.
You are correct about not much discussion going on here and it's mostly the same in any thread on any game here.You always get the same thing a couple of handfulls of negative posters shoting things at a couple of handfulls of postive people who shout back.Neither realyl listnes to the other or cares,but it sure cna be entertaining for the rest of us to watch 8)
This community among others is horrible in the way they offer no constructive criticism.
Maybe someday the next generation out of the box mmo will appear but for now it is what it is.
There were hundreds of posts for beta keys to play rift and now there are hundreds of posts crying and bashing the game.
Here's a thought, make your own mmo and see how well your game stands up to the unruly mob.
Who ever said Rift was re-inventing the rpg wheel? Do us all a favor and don't play rift that way the players who appreciate the
game and understand the value of what rift has to offer can enjoy it all that more.
Too many flamers and trolls ruin these forums.
At least the game devs are listening to feedback and have made tons of changes so far, not to all of our liking.
Even if they do release the game as is, that's what updates and patches are for.
Rome wasn't made in a day but this community sure feels like the angry mob.
Yeah people are pissed because the game was spouted as old school and hardcore and next gen. I logged in again tonight and wanted to try another class. I had to do the damn tutorial area again for the 4th time. My eyes were already bleeding. No alternate starting areas??? The saddest thing is that I will play it for a bit because there is nothing else going right now, but I already now my time will be limitied.
Under your philosophy, no one can critcize anything if they can't make it. I assure you, there are toasters I don't care for and some I do. I don't really know how to throw one together myself though. It's silly regardless of what you compare to. Rift is rather polished, which is a nice change from an industry that peddles garbage with a promise to clean it up later. However, Rift is rather boring and Rifts and invasions are too common place to call them special. There will be a number of people who like the game. Good for them because they will probably enjoy it from day one. Other companies might want to take note that is is still possible to sell a relatively clean game from the get go and not hide behind a bunch of excuses.
parrotpholk-Because we all know the miracle patch fairy shows up the night before release and sprinkles magic dust on the server to make it allllll better.
Hmm do you also go to Toaster lover forums and constantly repeat your opinions of a certain Toaster in any thread remotely related like many people do for games in these forums?I'm tlaking aobut both sides of the coin here not jsut positive or negative opinions.
Why can't innovative sandbox mmo's launch as polished as Theme parks? Is it the risk involved in making the sandbox or niche mmo that decides its cost? These are obvious questions, but pertain vividly to this genre.
I'll answer your question when you ask one that makes sense. I played the stress test today, which actually went very well compared to other stress tests I have played through before. I am talking about Rifts not some "other" game. I've been playing Rift for a number of weeks too, so I certainly know enough about this game to be talking about this game.
parrotpholk-Because we all know the miracle patch fairy shows up the night before release and sprinkles magic dust on the server to make it allllll better.
Don't feel bad. Be thankful you didn't come from Dark age of Camelot. We had 3 factions where you could level to 50 in each one as a complete country without ever stepping foot into a battlefield - though they were there andnon instanced to boot - imagine that. We had so many classes and races, and Mythic became (imho) such a threat that they were bought out - half fired - and cast aside on life support with ZERO hope of a new server for a fresh start - or any mention of Dark Age of Camelot 2 - just so Failhammer...I'm sorry, I meant "Warhammer" could have a shot at another 2 faction market niche. /YAWN
The point is, the bar was raised so high in that title - and that game released in 2001 with arguably the least buggy release in the industry's history. And now what do we have? An endless supply of no faction or 2 faction mmorpgs with a little eye candy and very little if any depth.
So yeah, while Rifts is a pretty looking mmorpg, why in God's name should we leave anything else (Im in DC Heroes atm for example because I have given up on the fantasy medieval genre).
/My 2 cents - PS Hand in there, you never know. A sandbox mmorpg with a lot of money behind a personal investment might occur - I still have hope. Till then? Get out your Xbox 36-/PS3 in my opinion.