I started playing beta yesterday for the first time and while I don't like the game that much, the community did get a lot better after level 10. The conversations were more mature and people actually started to help each other.
Didn't I and another say that we thought the Rift community was one of the worst we have ever encountered here on these forums? Yes...we did. What were we met with? People telling us that we we haters and trolls. I'll say it again, Rift's community is one of the worst I have ever encountered in any game and that includes WoW.
Because the community of a game that is essentially free to play is indicative of what it will resemble on release, when the same kids causing the trouble can't/won't buy the game.
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Someone here has already given the answer and it goes a bit like this:
The game is in OPEN beta, thus: free to troll.
Want an example? This happened to me yesterday:
Troll: "Is this game F2P?"
Player: "No"
Troll: "Not worth it then"
It went somewhere down those lines. And no, the troll's answer might seem acceptable, but then it evolved, but i don't care for writting the extended version. I don't dislike the game, but i don't die for it either, the community seems neutral to me so far, but i am used to dota's community... In ANY game there will ALWAYS be a troll. Its a pre-requisite of the internet: There MUST be trolls, and there shall ALWAYS be trolls. I don't really think a game should be judged on it's open beta community, but in its retail community (if it is a P2P, as Rift is)
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so your gonna base a game off the community in open beta where alot of wow players are trying the game pretty much for the sole purpose of turning people away from the game by being asshats. rift has a great community as long as you leave wow out of it, i admit im kind of an ass when people keep comparing this game or that game to wow, im sick of it, im tired of hearing the words blizzard, world or warcraft, im sick of people thinking warcraft was the first mmo, im sick of everyone bashing every game because it might be a little bit like wow but most of the community problems now are wow fanbois are scared their precious is gonna get hurt and bashing the game for no reason.
im getting close to that 40 mark myself and i understand not wanting to put up with little punk ass people that i know i would beat the crap out of in real life if they talked to me like that, which is why i turn off general chat or hell generally i ignore the chat altogether, make it as small as i can, im on vent with guidies anyway and those are the only ones i care to talk to, but seriously never base a game off a open beta community, open beta brings the worse scum of humanity into a game, you know the people we ought to just shoot on sight cause they are not worth the air they breathe type of people.
Stuff like irony or sarcasm, mockery and the like you will hear rarely from me. When someone says something to me, I always take it seriously. It's how I function.
Rarely? But still participate in it?
Hmm...
I'm not sure why you get irritated over people who do it more than you in a game when it looks like you still do it anyways by your own admission.
I agree with what several others have said. With Rift being in a state of not having to pay for the game to play it you are going to have the trashiest of trash playing it. I have been in beta for a long time now and the community was fine up until the mass "giveaway" of the VIP keys. The people that actually want to play the game have been more than helpful and decent. It is the bored vagrants that are causing all the grief as they do with every game in “open beta.”
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Originally posted by Elikal
I am done with Rift. I really wanted to like the game, it looks great, Trion is putting great effort into it, but today is really the last nail in the coffin.
I know people say WOW has a bad community, and going into it's dungeon browser really shows you the scum of humanity. But this... no matter what little you ask or critizise, I haven't EVER seen such an amount of hate, harrasment, flaming and attack than in the Rift chat channels. Why is it so difficult to just discuss different opinions WITHOUT 30 people jumping at my throat? I just don't want to spent my limited lifetime in an environment with such amounts of hate and agression around me.
This is the age of Post-WoW.. Which is basically the mmo equivalent of Post-Apocolyptica.. You have little factions everywhere and all people want to do is fight.. It's like Mad Max online..
Didn't I and another say that we thought the Rift community was one of the worst we have ever encountered here on these forums? Yes...we did. What were we met with? People telling us that we we haters and trolls. I'll say it again, Rift's community is one of the worst I have ever encountered in any game and that includes WoW.
Because the community of a game that is essentially free to play is indicative of what it will resemble on release, when the same kids causing the trouble can't/won't buy the game.
Teala has chosen to respond to bad replies from what I've noticed, and to ignore insightful/intelligent posts. While this is entertaining, choosing to focus on such is likely to worsen your discussion... and your point of view on a community.
Didn't I and another say that we thought the Rift community was one of the worst we have ever encountered here on these forums? Yes...we did. What were we met with? People telling us that we we haters and trolls. I'll say it again, Rift's community is one of the worst I have ever encountered in any game and that includes WoW.
Because the community of a game that is essentially free to play is indicative of what it will resemble on release, when the same kids causing the trouble can't/won't buy the game.
Teala has chosen to respond to bad replies from what I've noticed, and to ignore insightful/intelligent posts. While this is entertaining, choosing to focus on such is likely to worsen your discussion... and your point of view on a community.
Right. I am responsible for the actions of others. I am responsible for the bad community that infest Rift. Did you know that I actually received death threats from the so-called fans of Rift in my e-mail here at MMORPG.com because of what I wrote on my blog. First time I have ever had someone threaten to hunt me down and slit my throat, or as one player said in their e-mail, "I'll run you off the road and make it look like an accident you little &#^#. " I know I should take threats like that with a grain of salt because it is probably just some person PO'd, but in this day and age of the Internet, threats like that can actually be followed through with. So you can go right on defending the games community all you want, I have had my experience with them and it was enough for me.
Right. I am responsible for the actions of others. I am responsible for the bad community that infest Rift. Did you know that I actually received death threats from the so-called fans of Rift in my e-mail here at MMORPG.com because of what I wrote on my blog. First time I have ever had someone threaten to hunt me down and slit my throat, or as one player said in their e-mail, "I'll run you off the road and make it look like an accident you little &#^#. " I know I should take threats like that with a grain of salt because it is probably just some person PO'd, but in this day and age of the Internet, threats like that can actually be followed through with. So you can go right on defending the games community all you want, I have had my experience with them and it was enough for me.
There is a line between name calling and death threads. Name calling should be taken with a grain of salt. Threats shouldn't be tolerated (ugh did you really get stuff like that in your PMs? ). If it gets that wrong, it becomes criminal offense in most countries. Yes, even if it's the Internet.
Back to what I was trying to say, it is perfectly reasonable to rant about something in a public discussion such as this one. There is nothing wrong with that. You may expect posters that agree or disagree, and you may expect bad posts and good posts. A bad post is when someone gets into fallacious attacks or arguments, name calling and such. Now if someone posts a rant, gets mixed reactions, but only chooses to reply to bad replies, that someone is driving the discussion toward bad replies.
This is what I see very often in public communities:
OP: I don't like this because of that.
Poster1: I don't understand why you don't like that.
Poster2: You don't like that because you are <name calling>.
OP: Poster2, you are <name calling>.
Poster2: So you admit you are <name calling>?
OP: Quit being a troll poster 2.
Poster3: I agree with OP, but I would like to add this.
Poster2: OP is <name calling>.
OP: Poster2 is <name calling>.
Poster4: /popcorn
OP: This community is full of #!&%
So OP decided to reply to Poster2, and has chosen to ignore Poster1 and Poster3. Such thread had some potential despite it being started from a rant, but it became a flame war.
I think a LOT of the rude open beta community is going to be there for launch. I have a hard time believing that a majority of thses players are just here for the free week.
Even if they are here only for the open beta, and will go away come launch......are we seriously overestimating how many people will be playing this game?
Another example of the rift communtiy. On my warrior pve'ing, i cant count how many times ive been near death, with multiple mobs on me, and a cleric running around me in circles bunny hopping as i die. Just because i knew wha tthe response was going to be, i sent him a tell "couldnt spare a heal?" and the response, what can be repeated of it, basically called me a noob that needs to go back to wow, involving several swears and my mother in the uncensord version...... really
But yeah, if your on the line about this game, dont care about it not being next-gen or anything unique, stay away from this beta, the community will turn you.
Didn't I and another say that we thought the Rift community was one of the worst we have ever encountered here on these forums? Yes...we did. What were we met with? People telling us that we we haters and trolls. I'll say it again, Rift's community is one of the worst I have ever encountered in any game and that includes WoW.
Because the community of a game that is essentially free to play is indicative of what it will resemble on release, when the same kids causing the trouble can't/won't buy the game.
Teala has chosen to respond to bad replies from what I've noticed, and to ignore insightful/intelligent posts. While this is entertaining, choosing to focus on such is likely to worsen your discussion... and your point of view on a community.
Right. I am responsible for the actions of others. I am responsible for the bad community that infest Rift. Did you know that I actually received death threats from the so-called fans of Rift in my e-mail here at MMORPG.com because of what I wrote on my blog. First time I have ever had someone threaten to hunt me down and slit my throat, or as one player said in their e-mail, "I'll run you off the road and make it look like an accident you little &#^#. " I know I should take threats like that with a grain of salt because it is probably just some person PO'd, but in this day and age of the Internet, threats like that can actually be followed through with. So you can go right on defending the games community all you want, I have had my experience with them and it was enough for me.
um, and you reported these people and sought to press charges?
Death threats are not something to be taken lightly.
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Pretty much cancelling my pre-order today. I really wanted to like RIFT but there is no spark when I'm playing, and no desire to log in when I'm not. I tried really hard to play yesterday and give it a chance but, I'm just not seeing or feeling it. I've decided to stick with EQ2 as long as I can at this point. I enjoy the game, it has a ton of content and I'm having fun there. Hopefully I can stick it out there until something else comes along. :
Didn't I and another say that we thought the Rift community was one of the worst we have ever encountered here on these forums? Yes...we did. What were we met with? People telling us that we we haters and trolls. I'll say it again, Rift's community is one of the worst I have ever encountered in any game and that includes WoW.
Because the community of a game that is essentially free to play is indicative of what it will resemble on release, when the same kids causing the trouble can't/won't buy the game.
Teala has chosen to respond to bad replies from what I've noticed, and to ignore insightful/intelligent posts. While this is entertaining, choosing to focus on such is likely to worsen your discussion... and your point of view on a community.
Right. I am responsible for the actions of others. I am responsible for the bad community that infest Rift. Did you know that I actually received death threats from the so-called fans of Rift in my e-mail here at MMORPG.com because of what I wrote on my blog. First time I have ever had someone threaten to hunt me down and slit my throat, or as one player said in their e-mail, "I'll run you off the road and make it look like an accident you little &#^#. " I know I should take threats like that with a grain of salt because it is probably just some person PO'd, but in this day and age of the Internet, threats like that can actually be followed through with. So you can go right on defending the games community all you want, I have had my experience with them and it was enough for me.
um, and you reported these people and sought to press charges?
Death threats are not something to be taken lightly.
I didnt recieve death threats, but my Rift forum account had TONS of private email spam from people VERY angry about me pointing out issues with the game during beta, and on the beta forums. I would just post what i found, and leave, no response no egging on anyone, and i would return the next day, with a decent amount of hate mail. MOst were not too bad, just asking me how much blizzard pays me to troll ect....
I think i even got a few private messages from fans loyal to Rift, over my class balance issue posts, on this site.
I really hope, for all the people preorderd with 6months of time purchased up front, that this community settles down and starts acting normal.
one more thing to stray me from rift, im chilling on single player till gw2 comes around.
I know that since the casuals influx into mmos we have to turn off LFG, but then it feels like a single player game... wich defeats the purpouse... =/
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That is my poem for you. It doesn't rhyme or otherwise seem like a poem. It makes about as little sense as a poem as your using the dbags in a free beta to determine the gaming community for the released game.
The pre-launch week will give you a mostly favorable (probably too favorable) look at the eventual community for RIFT. A few weeks after the official launch a somewhat reasonable amount of people will be settling in and it will be a more honest group to evaluate. After a couple/few months - that is probably going to be a good time to look at the community and see the tone.
I am done with Rift. I really wanted to like the game, it looks great, Trion is putting great effort into it, but today is really the last nail in the coffin.
I know people say WOW has a bad community, and going into it's dungeon browser really shows you the scum of humanity. But this... no matter what little you ask or critizise, I haven't EVER seen such an amount of hate, harrasment, flaming and attack than in the Rift chat channels. Why is it so difficult to just discuss different opinions WITHOUT 30 people jumping at my throat? I just don't want to spent my limited lifetime in an environment with such amounts of hate and agression around me.
It just is the last straw on many issues. Boring "Kill 10 Goblin" quests all over, difficulty & respawn rates, recent rise of bugs and issues... but more than all this the community looks terrible to me. I was just saying my Ranger/Marksman was constantly dying in some places, and the sheer amount of mockery, hate and whatnot was just... depressing.
You know, I didnt want to say this, but I had my 40th birthday today, I feel it's like "ok I am officially not young anymore" and having more days behind me than ahead of me, I made one decision today: I WONT stay in places with mean and inpolite people. I am mortal, my time is limited and life is too precious to waste it in places with unfriendly people. So while in past years I was more willing to "fight over things", debate all over and taking all bad manners, I decided from today I will avoid such places.
Maybe you think about this one time.
Well, I have to admit that I'm 43 soon to be *cough* 44 and it's true that from this vantage point things really are different.
However, I came to the realization that keeping poisonous people in one's life was a bad thing at 30. Since then I've significantly lowered the drama in my life and my stress.
Still, I'm not sure you are going to find anything different in any other beta for a game.
I think the community will be better judged a little after launch.
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I generally do not go about making comments in public channels . I cannot understand how you are all this sensitive. I am 50 + housewife who plays video games and I don't understand how you have all grown up that you can have this much of a problem with people being rude. Where do you all live that you do not encounter hostility when you criticize what other people like. Then you act like it is rare. Well it must be nice where you live.
Generally be prepared to accept hostility your life will be much better if you get thicker skin. I pugged my way to 60 in WoW ...been abused like mad as a priest in WoW and I did not give up this easily. If you think games in the coming months will miraculously get a better community you will be in for a shock. Learn to deal and also take the fact that your attempts at putting down what others like will have consequences. If you cannot handle that then perhaps you should stop making comments in public channels. What you expected to have an intelligent conversation with mild mannered individuals that commisurate with your point of view ?
Of course you are thinking why can't I make innocuous statements that are thinly veiled criticisms well you can as long as you are prepared for the consequences. If others take offense that is what you have to accept because for every action there is a reaction and often the reaction is an overeaction. I used to play Everquest a millenia ago and got into some bad fights but now I hardly bother any more. Simply not worth it.
I respect your decision of not wanting to waste what is left of your life on this but I will not let a poor community destroy whatever game I might like because then I might not have any more games to play. I avoid participating in public channels unless I am in a bad mood and itching for a fight . Generally I read them and talk to individuals who are interesting and more sane than the other rabid dogs.I have made friends like that.
My feelings ang thoughts are the same as this posters. I've been a healer in most games i play and also recieved more then my fair share of abuse in WoW. I have played 2 betas and have found each group or pug to be a delight. I've had pleasurable comments and have given them out. I had such a nice group one of the folks didnt have a mount yet, i offered to get one for them, its beta money doesnt mean to much atm, but the point is there are those of us willing to be mature and good natured towards others. You just have to be patient enough to figure out who the scum is and who the diamonds are.
Didn't I and another say that we thought the Rift community was one of the worst we have ever encountered here on these forums? Yes...we did. What were we met with? People telling us that we we haters and trolls. I'll say it again, Rift's community is one of the worst I have ever encountered in any game and that includes WoW.
What exactly are you doing here may I ask? You hate the game, but I see you constantly flaming
the game and trying to make people quit.
I thought the mods on this site had cracked down on these types of threads. It is beyond obvious
these guys are taking advantage of an open beta.
Trion already took action by kicking the free loading trash out of there official forums by
making it pre-orders only to post.
This WoW trash in /5 if they try it during launch are going to get insta banned.
While the WoW speak is annoying, Instant banning them for it seems kind of harsh, pretty much throws freedom of speech right out the window.
Believing that Trion is going to boot people for chatting about WoW is nothing more than wishful thinking. They're going to be scrambling fast and hard to keep as many subs as they can once the game launches. People talking in chat about WoW (or SWTOR or GW2) are going to be very low priority on their List of Important Things. There's a reason why they're sowing bags of lemming chow like grass seed in the form of marketing.
Also, the official forums are reserved for pre-orders. The beta forums are still open and will remain so until the end of Beta 7.
"Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II "People love groups. Its a fallacy that people want to play solo all the time." - Scott Hartsman, Executive Producer, Rift
It´s funny how apparently every single rude person on the net is a "WoW player" regardless of if that person has actually played WoW or not.
I can see myself in 10 years still hearing about "WoW players" in derogatory form to label any douche to be found in our virtual reality mmo that we will be enjoying by then.
Didn't I and another say that we thought the Rift community was one of the worst we have ever encountered here on these forums? Yes...we did. What were we met with? People telling us that we we haters and trolls. I'll say it again, Rift's community is one of the worst I have ever encountered in any game and that includes WoW.
What exactly are you doing here may I ask? You hate the game, but I see you constantly flaming
the game and trying to make people quit.
In this case, he is merely voicing his opinion. He has every right to do so.
I thought the mods on this site had cracked down on these types of threads. It is beyond obvious
these guys are taking advantage of an open beta.
Again, an opinion thread. Are you a communist by any chance?
And frankly, everyone is taking advantage of an open beta. We'd like to know what we're getting into before pulling out our wallets. Well, everyone except you?
Trion already took action by kicking the free loading trash out of there official forums by
making it pre-orders only to post.
Sigh.
This WoW trash in /5 if they try it during launch are going to get insta banned.
Sorry to hear your frustration, but I can understand it. The very anonymous nature of the internet has bred a culture of smart-asses, cynics, and those that will just mess with people because they can with little to no recourse. It's a sad reality of the current state of the Net. Not to mention the online gaming world has evolved to a much larger and younger crowd in many ways, which doesn't help.
That being said, I think the open beta stage is the WORST time to judge a community as it is the peak time when anyone and everyone will show up to a game to try it out or even to just hate on it because they are bored and immature (See above paragraph). Not that RIFT doesn't have its faults, because it does, but Trion as a company IMO deserves some time to flesh out their vision of a game that so far they have done very well with. Their customer service and willingness to listen and make changes with reasonable scope shows that they care about not just making a game they want, but one that a lot (Not all, you can never satisfy everyone of course) of people enjoy for one reason or another.
All I can say, is everyone has their priorities and limits of what makes or breaks their choices to play a game, so I won't sit here and tell you what you SHOULD do, because that would only be my opinion. Instead I'll just say, think about why you want to play, why you don't want to play, and if you can mitigate/remove any/all of the negatives that influence your decision. Can you block out those in the community that will be negative? Can you play the game and have fun enough in other ways that the questing won't drag you down? Etc.. Only you know the answer. Good luck, whatever you do. It IS supposed to be entertainment, so make sure the fun, and/or whatever drives you in a game are present, otherwise why are you playing?
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I started playing beta yesterday for the first time and while I don't like the game that much, the community did get a lot better after level 10. The conversations were more mature and people actually started to help each other.
Eat me!
Because the community of a game that is essentially free to play is indicative of what it will resemble on release, when the same kids causing the trouble can't/won't buy the game.
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Someone here has already given the answer and it goes a bit like this:
The game is in OPEN beta, thus: free to troll.
Want an example? This happened to me yesterday:
Troll: "Is this game F2P?"
Player: "No"
Troll: "Not worth it then"
It went somewhere down those lines. And no, the troll's answer might seem acceptable, but then it evolved, but i don't care for writting the extended version. I don't dislike the game, but i don't die for it either, the community seems neutral to me so far, but i am used to dota's community... In ANY game there will ALWAYS be a troll. Its a pre-requisite of the internet: There MUST be trolls, and there shall ALWAYS be trolls. I don't really think a game should be judged on it's open beta community, but in its retail community (if it is a P2P, as Rift is)
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so your gonna base a game off the community in open beta where alot of wow players are trying the game pretty much for the sole purpose of turning people away from the game by being asshats. rift has a great community as long as you leave wow out of it, i admit im kind of an ass when people keep comparing this game or that game to wow, im sick of it, im tired of hearing the words blizzard, world or warcraft, im sick of people thinking warcraft was the first mmo, im sick of everyone bashing every game because it might be a little bit like wow but most of the community problems now are wow fanbois are scared their precious is gonna get hurt and bashing the game for no reason.
im getting close to that 40 mark myself and i understand not wanting to put up with little punk ass people that i know i would beat the crap out of in real life if they talked to me like that, which is why i turn off general chat or hell generally i ignore the chat altogether, make it as small as i can, im on vent with guidies anyway and those are the only ones i care to talk to, but seriously never base a game off a open beta community, open beta brings the worse scum of humanity into a game, you know the people we ought to just shoot on sight cause they are not worth the air they breathe type of people.
Rarely? But still participate in it?
Hmm...
I'm not sure why you get irritated over people who do it more than you in a game when it looks like you still do it anyways by your own admission.
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I agree with what several others have said. With Rift being in a state of not having to pay for the game to play it you are going to have the trashiest of trash playing it. I have been in beta for a long time now and the community was fine up until the mass "giveaway" of the VIP keys. The people that actually want to play the game have been more than helpful and decent. It is the bored vagrants that are causing all the grief as they do with every game in “open beta.”
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Originally posted by Elikal
I am done with Rift. I really wanted to like the game, it looks great, Trion is putting great effort into it, but today is really the last nail in the coffin.
I know people say WOW has a bad community, and going into it's dungeon browser really shows you the scum of humanity. But this... no matter what little you ask or critizise, I haven't EVER seen such an amount of hate, harrasment, flaming and attack than in the Rift chat channels. Why is it so difficult to just discuss different opinions WITHOUT 30 people jumping at my throat? I just don't want to spent my limited lifetime in an environment with such amounts of hate and agression around me.
This is the age of Post-WoW.. Which is basically the mmo equivalent of Post-Apocolyptica.. You have little factions everywhere and all people want to do is fight.. It's like Mad Max online..
Teala has chosen to respond to bad replies from what I've noticed, and to ignore insightful/intelligent posts. While this is entertaining, choosing to focus on such is likely to worsen your discussion... and your point of view on a community.
Right. I am responsible for the actions of others. I am responsible for the bad community that infest Rift. Did you know that I actually received death threats from the so-called fans of Rift in my e-mail here at MMORPG.com because of what I wrote on my blog. First time I have ever had someone threaten to hunt me down and slit my throat, or as one player said in their e-mail, "I'll run you off the road and make it look like an accident you little &#^#. " I know I should take threats like that with a grain of salt because it is probably just some person PO'd, but in this day and age of the Internet, threats like that can actually be followed through with. So you can go right on defending the games community all you want, I have had my experience with them and it was enough for me.
There is a line between name calling and death threads. Name calling should be taken with a grain of salt. Threats shouldn't be tolerated (ugh did you really get stuff like that in your PMs?
). If it gets that wrong, it becomes criminal offense in most countries. Yes, even if it's the Internet.
Back to what I was trying to say, it is perfectly reasonable to rant about something in a public discussion such as this one. There is nothing wrong with that. You may expect posters that agree or disagree, and you may expect bad posts and good posts. A bad post is when someone gets into fallacious attacks or arguments, name calling and such. Now if someone posts a rant, gets mixed reactions, but only chooses to reply to bad replies, that someone is driving the discussion toward bad replies.
This is what I see very often in public communities:
OP: I don't like this because of that.
Poster1: I don't understand why you don't like that.
Poster2: You don't like that because you are <name calling>.
OP: Poster2, you are <name calling>.
Poster2: So you admit you are <name calling>?
OP: Quit being a troll poster 2.
Poster3: I agree with OP, but I would like to add this.
Poster2: OP is <name calling>.
OP: Poster2 is <name calling>.
Poster4: /popcorn
OP: This community is full of #!&%
So OP decided to reply to Poster2, and has chosen to ignore Poster1 and Poster3. Such thread had some potential despite it being started from a rant, but it became a flame war.
I think a LOT of the rude open beta community is going to be there for launch. I have a hard time believing that a majority of thses players are just here for the free week.
Even if they are here only for the open beta, and will go away come launch......are we seriously overestimating how many people will be playing this game?
Another example of the rift communtiy. On my warrior pve'ing, i cant count how many times ive been near death, with multiple mobs on me, and a cleric running around me in circles bunny hopping as i die. Just because i knew wha tthe response was going to be, i sent him a tell "couldnt spare a heal?" and the response, what can be repeated of it, basically called me a noob that needs to go back to wow, involving several swears and my mother in the uncensord version...... really
But yeah, if your on the line about this game, dont care about it not being next-gen or anything unique, stay away from this beta, the community will turn you.
um, and you reported these people and sought to press charges?
Death threats are not something to be taken lightly.
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Pretty much cancelling my pre-order today. I really wanted to like RIFT but there is no spark when I'm playing, and no desire to log in when I'm not. I tried really hard to play yesterday and give it a chance but, I'm just not seeing or feeling it. I've decided to stick with EQ2 as long as I can at this point. I enjoy the game, it has a ton of content and I'm having fun there. Hopefully I can stick it out there until something else comes along. :
I didnt recieve death threats, but my Rift forum account had TONS of private email spam from people VERY angry about me pointing out issues with the game during beta, and on the beta forums. I would just post what i found, and leave, no response no egging on anyone, and i would return the next day, with a decent amount of hate mail. MOst were not too bad, just asking me how much blizzard pays me to troll ect....
I think i even got a few private messages from fans loyal to Rift, over my class balance issue posts, on this site.
I really hope, for all the people preorderd with 6months of time purchased up front, that this community settles down and starts acting normal.
one more thing to stray me from rift, im chilling on single player till gw2 comes around.
I know that since the casuals influx into mmos we have to turn off LFG, but then it feels like a single player game... wich defeats the purpouse... =/
now: GW2 (11 80s).
Dark Souls 2.
future: Mount&Blade 2 BannerLord.
"Bro, do your even fractal?"
Recommends: Guild Wars 2, Dark Souls, Mount&Blade: Warband, Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning.
OP
This your first Beta?
RIFT isn't out yet.
You are TESTING a game. A FREE and OPEN Beta.
That is my poem for you. It doesn't rhyme or otherwise seem like a poem. It makes about as little sense as a poem as your using the dbags in a free beta to determine the gaming community for the released game.
The pre-launch week will give you a mostly favorable (probably too favorable) look at the eventual community for RIFT. A few weeks after the official launch a somewhat reasonable amount of people will be settling in and it will be a more honest group to evaluate. After a couple/few months - that is probably going to be a good time to look at the community and see the tone.
Someone please make a good MMO.
Well, I have to admit that I'm 43 soon to be *cough* 44 and it's true that from this vantage point things really are different.
However, I came to the realization that keeping poisonous people in one's life was a bad thing at 30. Since then I've significantly lowered the drama in my life and my stress.
Still, I'm not sure you are going to find anything different in any other beta for a game.
I think the community will be better judged a little after launch.
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Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
My feelings ang thoughts are the same as this posters. I've been a healer in most games i play and also recieved more then my fair share of abuse in WoW. I have played 2 betas and have found each group or pug to be a delight. I've had pleasurable comments and have given them out. I had such a nice group one of the folks didnt have a mount yet, i offered to get one for them, its beta money doesnt mean to much atm, but the point is there are those of us willing to be mature and good natured towards others. You just have to be patient enough to figure out who the scum is and who the diamonds are.
While the WoW speak is annoying, Instant banning them for it seems kind of harsh, pretty much throws freedom of speech right out the window.
Believing that Trion is going to boot people for chatting about WoW is nothing more than wishful thinking. They're going to be scrambling fast and hard to keep as many subs as they can once the game launches. People talking in chat about WoW (or SWTOR or GW2) are going to be very low priority on their List of Important Things. There's a reason why they're sowing bags of lemming chow like grass seed in the form of marketing.
Also, the official forums are reserved for pre-orders. The beta forums are still open and will remain so until the end of Beta 7.
"Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II
"People love groups. Its a fallacy that people want to play solo all the time." - Scott Hartsman, Executive Producer, Rift
It´s funny how apparently every single rude person on the net is a "WoW player" regardless of if that person has actually played WoW or not.
I can see myself in 10 years still hearing about "WoW players" in derogatory form to label any douche to be found in our virtual reality mmo that we will be enjoying by then.
Seriously...
Rawr.
I am sorry you do not agree with me. Teala already made her opinion very known on how she
feels about Rift in her blog. {mod edit}
Sorry to hear your frustration, but I can understand it. The very anonymous nature of the internet has bred a culture of smart-asses, cynics, and those that will just mess with people because they can with little to no recourse. It's a sad reality of the current state of the Net. Not to mention the online gaming world has evolved to a much larger and younger crowd in many ways, which doesn't help.
That being said, I think the open beta stage is the WORST time to judge a community as it is the peak time when anyone and everyone will show up to a game to try it out or even to just hate on it because they are bored and immature (See above paragraph). Not that RIFT doesn't have its faults, because it does, but Trion as a company IMO deserves some time to flesh out their vision of a game that so far they have done very well with. Their customer service and willingness to listen and make changes with reasonable scope shows that they care about not just making a game they want, but one that a lot (Not all, you can never satisfy everyone of course) of people enjoy for one reason or another.
All I can say, is everyone has their priorities and limits of what makes or breaks their choices to play a game, so I won't sit here and tell you what you SHOULD do, because that would only be my opinion. Instead I'll just say, think about why you want to play, why you don't want to play, and if you can mitigate/remove any/all of the negatives that influence your decision. Can you block out those in the community that will be negative? Can you play the game and have fun enough in other ways that the questing won't drag you down? Etc.. Only you know the answer. Good luck, whatever you do. It IS supposed to be entertainment, so make sure the fun, and/or whatever drives you in a game are present, otherwise why are you playing?