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Faith in Trion - Too Many Servers

DragonElderDragonElder Member CommonPosts: 62

I personally thought they had launched too many servers but i just checked the server status and they are perfectly implemented.
Majority of the servers are medium some some high some full and very few low.
So yeah.. Trion are the new mmo geniuses.
Nicely played.

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  • GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035

    Time passes.

    Active players trickle out.

    Most servers die out, some remain heavy because of advertising them as active in forums.

    They merge.

    Names get taken, people bitch.

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  • RiftFanRiftFan Member Posts: 239

    Originally posted by GTwander

    Time passes.

    Active players trickle out.

    Most servers die out, some remain heavy because of advertising them as active in forums.

    They merge.

    Names get taken, people bitch.

    They do that when the game sucks. I am having to make decisions of whether or not to sleep or play Rift and I am a casual lol.

  • Anthony3187Anthony3187 Member UncommonPosts: 32

    Just checked the Rift server status. In North America there's only 3-4 Low Population servers out of 58. Way to go Trion! =)

  • GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035

    Originally posted by RiftFan

    They do that when the game sucks.

    They do that regardless of the circumstances.

    You simply can't speak for the hordes of people that are playing it on a whim that will eventually walk, which is a HUGE deficit, for ANY game.

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  • mmogawdmmogawd Member Posts: 732

    Trion has shown again and again that they know what they're doing.  I've been very impressed by them.  I won't be playing Rift, too much going on with work and going to school full time, but I'm glad to see how smart they are being with things.  I'm VERY excited to see them succeed and then move on to their SyFy project!

  • DragonElderDragonElder Member CommonPosts: 62

    I feel that Rift is primarily played by working, casual adults. It explains the low server status during the day and high peaks during the evening.
    I almost feel that Rift is geared towards the WORKING, casual adult vs mommys credit card high schoolers.
    Makes sense!

  • mmogawdmmogawd Member Posts: 732

    Originally posted by GTwander

    Originally posted by RiftFan



    They do that when the game sucks.

    They do that regardless of the circumstances.

    You simply can't speak for the hordes of people that are playing it on a whim that will eventually walk, which is a HUGE deficit, for ANY game.

    Just like YOU simply can't speak for the hordes of people who are not yet playing it, that are waiting for free trials, that will hear about it from friends and decide to try it out.

  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,430

     

    Its a rather simple fomula.  

    1ST you add as many servers as you can becuase of the rush of ppl they are going to have to handle.

    2ND you will have a sustancial decline in subs and the servers will be reduced to accomadate.

    3RD  rinse, wipe, the server status will depend on players (sometimes they get large influxes of ppl fo r                                                       some reason or other (New  feature, God Fix Patch, etc) or those very same reasons can lead to                                                       further decline in subs.

         

    Translation 1... Best game ever, gotta get it, gotta get it.  Woot I got it (large server amount)

                           WoW clone, WoW clone, game sucks, they lied            (servers decline)

                           They they just added ffa PVP, I am so there                      ( Servers increase)  

                                                                                                                              or

                                                                                                                       (Servers declined)                                        

     Translation 3..  i can't think of anything clever at the moment, pls help

     

    And just to be clear, new games, espc AAA games have a rather normal curve when it comes to this topic

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,098

    Originally posted by DragonElder

    I feel that Rift is primarily played by working, casual adults. It explains the low server status during the day and high peaks during the evening.

    I almost feel that Rift is geared towards the WORKING, casual adult vs mommys credit card high schoolers.

    Makes sense!

    So they guys who lead my guild (65 active members during primetime online) are between 20-25 and several are online from 12-18 hours a day. 

    Yep....mostly casual players.

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  • jpnolejpnole Member UncommonPosts: 1,698

    Originally posted by RiftFan

    Originally posted by GTwander

    Time passes.

    Active players trickle out.

    Most servers die out, some remain heavy because of advertising them as active in forums.

    They merge.

    Names get taken, people bitch.

    They do that when the game sucks. I am having to make decisions of whether or not to sleep or play Rift and I am a casual lol.

    Heck when I have time to game I dread having to stop to go to the bathroom or even shower! Time on the can is time away from Telara - Rift rocks!

  • SnarkRitterSnarkRitter Member Posts: 316

    There's a difference between a realist and a pessimist, a realist don't look at a currently successful problem free games and then say that it will fail, a pessimist does. Also weren't you among the people that say FF XIV will stand on it's feet again and become successful like FF XI? So much for being a realist then.....

    Never changes? WoW, LOTRO, EVE would like to have a word with you.

    Knowing you from FF XIV board can I safely say that you're just butthurt ;)

  • QazzQazz Member Posts: 577

    Originally posted by GTwander

    Time passes.

    Active players trickle out.

    Most servers die out, some remain heavy because of advertising them as active in forums.

    They merge.

    Names get taken, people bitch.

    That's only true if the game ends up sucking or is below expectations.  RIFT was basically a try before you buy so most folks know what they're signing up for.  Sure some will leave,  but I don't anticipate any empty servers.

  • DragonElderDragonElder Member CommonPosts: 62

    The retention power of the game is the reasons to visit low level zones. Example: Meridian is located in low level zone, that is the main center for pvp merchants, vendors, highest level trainres.

    Unlike most games, this causes high level players to mingle with the noobs and gives a feeling of being populated.

  • GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035

    Originally posted by SnarkRitter

    Never changes? WoW, LOTRO, EVE would like to have a word with you.

    All three had the same problem with roughly 40% of the people that jumped in on the launch phase staying past it.

    WoW is a fluke in general, don't relate it to any other MMO because it just doesn't work. That's a game that has popped millions of MMO-gamer cherries, and no other game is going to find that many hymens ever again.

    LotRO did OK, then had to reinvent the wheel by going (somewhat) F2P

    Eve struggled for years and then hit a stride in 2006, 3 years after what can be considered an easily failed launch.

     

    Launch-phase retention issues NEVER change. All three had it, all three got over it in time. *TIME*, and quite a bit of it had to pass for some of them to do it.

     

    ~and no, I never said anything about FFXIV beyond that whole discussion on it needing the ability to jump, which I still think is a retarded claim. It's not getting back on it's feet, that much is obvious. Nice try though.

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  • stv182stv182 Member Posts: 46

    Originally posted by GTwander

    Originally posted by SnarkRitter

    Never changes? WoW, LOTRO, EVE would like to have a word with you.

    WoW is a fluke in general, don't relate it to any other MMO because it just doesn't work. That's a game that has popped millions of MMO-gamer cherries, and no other game is going to find that many hymens ever again.

     

    Naive statement. What is the basis for which you so boldly claim that what happened with WOW can never happen again. Just because that the majority of the games that came out since WOW were crap means that WOW will never be matched?

    Whether Rift is the next great game or not remains to be seen but there will be plenty of games that come along that are exremely successful and improve upon WOW in due time. Rift has done everytihng right so far. It has launched really strong right out of the gate. This is something most games failed to do. It did not try to reinvent the wheel but rather improve upon it. These guys are doing everything right and have a really good shot at continuing to grow.

     
  • marinridermarinrider Member UncommonPosts: 1,556

    You can not say they did a good job just yet considering its only day 2 or 3 of post launch,  Free month doesnt end until beginning of april, when that happens then you can look and see if the servers are balanced or not...

  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910


    Originally posted by marinrider
    You can not say they did a good job just yet considering its only day 2 or 3 of post launch,  Free month doesnt end until beginning of april, when that happens then you can look and see if the servers are balanced or not...


    Why can't you say they did a good job? They picked a number out of the hat and it turned out to be very close to exactly how many servers they needed for launch.

    I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247

    Originally posted by DragonElder

    I personally thought they had launched too many servers but i just checked the server status and they are perfectly implemented.

    Majority of the servers are medium some some high some full and very few low.

    So yeah.. Trion are the new mmo geniuses.

    Nicely played.

     No one doubts they are a reasonable amount for this week or even next week. The concern is three months from now.

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  • RiftFanRiftFan Member Posts: 239

    Originally posted by marinrider

    You can not say they did a good job just yet considering its only day 2 or 3 of post launch,  Free month doesnt end until beginning of april, when that happens then you can look and see if the servers are balanced or not...

    So this is where the topic has shifted. Your logic IS people dropped 60-80$ to play a game for one month? Does this at all sound logical?

    This is like a buying a new car just to stop driving it because you need to put gas in it. I can understand not driving it because it keeps breaking down, but if it is running smooth and you enjoy why would you get rid of it?

    Where is the game breaking qq on the forums? Outside of Saboteur and Mana drain qq nothing is screaming broken game to me yet.

  • spookydomspookydom Member UncommonPosts: 1,782

    Originally posted by RiftFan

    Originally posted by marinrider

    You can not say they did a good job just yet considering its only day 2 or 3 of post launch,  Free month doesnt end until beginning of april, when that happens then you can look and see if the servers are balanced or not...

    So this is where the topic has shifted. Your logic IS people dropped 60-80$ to play a game for one month? Does this at all sound logical? (Edit)

    Logical or not it happens. It happens a lot. Not here to bash Rifts, It's a decent game. All I am saying is it has happened with every major mmo release in the last five years. If you don't belive it will happen with Rifts you are deluding yourself. Rifts is a good game, but it is a long way from the second coming.

  • RiftFanRiftFan Member Posts: 239

    Correct and it happened for a reason. Go pull up any article that list atleast 10 reason Aion or WAR failed. Right at this moment I am having trouble figuring how Rift could fail.

    I listed a few things. Security is a bit light, I think you can get to end game to fast but I accept this is the state of American MMO's.

    Only thing I see trashing Trion right now is if they just stop trying. They would have to just start breaking promises and not release any content and just ignore any balance issues that may come up. They just have to stop.

  • KanethKaneth Member RarePosts: 2,286

    Originally posted by stv182

    Originally posted by GTwander


    Originally posted by SnarkRitter

    Never changes? WoW, LOTRO, EVE would like to have a word with you.

    WoW is a fluke in general, don't relate it to any other MMO because it just doesn't work. That's a game that has popped millions of MMO-gamer cherries, and no other game is going to find that many hymens ever again.

     

    Naive statement. What is the basis for which you so boldly claim that what happened with WOW can never happen again. Just because that the majority of the games that came out since WOW were crap means that WOW will never be matched?

    Whether Rift is the next great game or not remains to be seen but there will be plenty of games that come along that are exremely successful and improve upon WOW in due time. Rift has done everytihng right so far. It has launched really strong right out of the gate. This is something most games failed to do. It did not try to reinvent the wheel but rather improve upon it. These guys are doing everything right and have a really good shot at continuing to grow.

     

    I agree, it's a fairly naive statment to make that a WoW like event will never happen again. I will concede that it will most likely be a rare event, and that it could even be a once in a generation type of thing, but never underestimate the masses.

    There are still untapped millions out there. People who wouldn't play a mmo unless a specific setting happens (much like WoW), tons of new gamers maturing and breaking into the mmo market, and lots of other situations.

  • MykellMykell Member UncommonPosts: 780

    Originally posted by RiftFan

    Originally posted by marinrider

    You can not say they did a good job just yet considering its only day 2 or 3 of post launch,  Free month doesnt end until beginning of april, when that happens then you can look and see if the servers are balanced or not...

    So this is where the topic has shifted. Your logic IS people dropped 60-80$ to play a game for one month? Does this at all sound logical?

    This is like a buying a new car just to stop driving it because you need to put gas in it. I can understand not driving it because it keeps breaking down, but if it is running smooth and you enjoy why would you get rid of it?

    Where is the game breaking qq on the forums? Outside of Saboteur and Mana drain qq nothing is screaming broken game to me yet.

    Actually i have a friend who bought Rift and he only expects 4 weeks of entertainment. Just because its not logical to you doesn't mean its impossible.

  • RiftFanRiftFan Member Posts: 239

    Originally posted by Mykell

     

    Actually i have a friend who bought Rift and he only expects 4 weeks of entertainment. Just because its not logical to you doesn't mean its impossible.

    Is this just under the assumption Trion is not going to release new content? This might a surprise but they have been in post game raid content since Beta 5. We should have a double digit boss raid pretty soon. The other raid Hammerknell is sitting in Moonshade if you want to go look at it. That is within 60 days accrding to Trion.

    Like I said Trion would literally have to stop.

  • VotanVotan Member UncommonPosts: 291

    I am with the crowd of they have done eveything correct so far.   I was a little stunned at the amount of servers they added  March 1st but they all filled up.

     

    Who knows what the future hold but if they did not add all those servers we would be looking at 6 hour queues on most servers and that would have not been good for attracting and retaining players if they can not even log into the game.  I do not have 2-4 hours to sit in a queue nor the time to stand around with 1000 players trying to kill the same mob for a quest.

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