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Rift sales numbers in Week 1

WertheWerthe Member Posts: 236
in Rift

 


Week
Americas
Japan
EMEAA
Worldwide
Running Total

1
106,760
N/A
20,406
127,166
127,166

Ten Week Totals:
106,760
0
20,406
127,166
 

Lifetime Totals:
106,760
0
20,406
127,166

 

http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/49494/rift/

 

Btw, this leads me to another thing. mmogawd and I made little bet about Rift Sales in the first week. Contents of this little agreement of hours can be seen here:

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/4039735#4039735

 

BUT, in the the spirit of good forum relations, mmogawd, i relieve you from your obligation.

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  • QazzQazz Member Posts: 577

    Trion hasn't released sales numbers yet.  So where did that site get it's data?

    Here's what the quoted website says:

    "Well unfortunately if we were to release detailed information at this stage on exactly where we get our data from then everyone would jump on the bandwagon and competitors would likely get their cheque books out and try to block anyone from providing us with any more data. Suffice to say (and this is where I do have to simply ask people for trust) that we do get data from a number of small retailers."

  • WertheWerthe Member Posts: 236

    Originally posted by Qazz

    Trion hasn't released sales numbers yet.  So where did that site get it's data?

    Here's what the quoted website says:

    "Well unfortunately if we were to release detailed information at this stage on exactly where we get our data from then everyone would jump on the bandwagon and competitors would likely get their cheque books out and try to block anyone from providing us with any more data. Suffice to say (and this is where I do have to simply ask people for trust) that we do get data from a number of small retailers."

     

    Damage control it all you wan't. They are always close to official sales numbers.

  • majypoomajypoo Member Posts: 52

    VG are usually pretty accurate with their sales.

  • AceOfSpade90AceOfSpade90 Member Posts: 88

    Sorry, didn't kept my attention spawn when you said those numbers.

    They don't make any sence.

    Server populations were on TOP with queues, always, in the beggining - 4000 people queues...

    Pardon me... but when I get my calculator and do some math with real numbers.

    Number of servers * Server Cap * Queues... at the same time, around 200.000 players at the SAME time. It doesn't mean EVERY guy that bought it was always present, so multiply 200.000 players with a random number that you think is fair. 200.000 players already bashed those statistics anyway... and we are talking about first week. Are you sure that is first week? I think it is probably more like "2nd or 3rd week". Or Trion bought a dozens of bots to log into the game with players to make numbers or those guys failed.... but like the 2nd poster says: Their numbers aren't accurate in no way, just a deduction of the information they got.

     

    Edit: Did a fail there... I said 2nd or 3rd week but we are on the 2nd week yet.... funny stuff. Tee hee.

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  • WarsaurusWarsaurus Member Posts: 37

    By those numbers, then with 99 servers, Rift only has aproxx: 1,282 players per server.  Considering que's reached over 4000 for some servers,(On day 1 headstart it may have been worse, and on multiple servers.) I find this hard to believe

    And only several servers have low population.  The numbers seem a little low to me personally from that. And from playing, there was no lack of people, anywhere. Even at higher zones.

  • majypoomajypoo Member Posts: 52

    There were 4000+ ques because at the time there was only a few servers for EU/US hence why there are 100+ now. Don't you remember the mass panic because Trion didn't have enough servers on launch?

  • QazzQazz Member Posts: 577

    Originally posted by Werthe

    Originally posted by Qazz

    Trion hasn't released sales numbers yet.  So where did that site get it's data?

    Here's what the quoted website says:

    "Well unfortunately if we were to release detailed information at this stage on exactly where we get our data from then everyone would jump on the bandwagon and competitors would likely get their cheque books out and try to block anyone from providing us with any more data. Suffice to say (and this is where I do have to simply ask people for trust) that we do get data from a number of small retailers."

     

    Damage control it all you wan't. They are always close to official sales numbers.

    How could they even be close on digital sales? "We're not telling" ROFL.  Trion was selling direct from their website and nobody knows how much they've sold yet.

    All those people can do is a wild guess since there haven't been any sales numbers released whatsoever.  That's a fact.  Haters gonna hate.

  • WarsaurusWarsaurus Member Posts: 37

    This is true, there were 27 servers at launch i believe. So, assuming those que numbers, (Let's go with 3000 because some had less) and we have to add at least 1000 for the people playing on the servers, there was (4,000*27 = 108,000)

    108,000 players. On day one. Are you saying that only 19,000 people bought Rift after it launched? That is not really a number I can believe. Considering even on this site, it's been the most 'visited' game, for 2 weeks running.

  • frestonfreston Member UncommonPosts: 503

    Nearly everyone in my serve goes around in a turtle. That means preordering, and most probably, a digital download.

  • ThanosxpThanosxp Member UncommonPosts: 177

    Originally posted by freston

    Nearly everyone in my serve goes around in a turtle. That means preordering, and most probably, a digital download.

    Yeah, prolly that isn't counting the preorders. Hope so...It's a good game with good developers. More power/sales to them.

    =p

  • CammyCammy Member Posts: 864

    A) It doesn't matter - the game is thriving very well and the only people who are complaining are the ones on the forums

    B) This is likely boxed sales and it's probably very accurate. However, it likely doesn't account for digital (like myself and many others) have purchased, therefore has no reflection of the actual population. 

    Hell - you can get it direct from Trion's website - which many people have done. There's no way to know how many they've sold from there until they publish it. 

    That said, for box sales (See B), its probably dead on.... and actually - that's a huge number when you consider how many pre-orders and online sales they made. 

  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690

    Those numbers seem to be considerably low considering they they had a ton of queue times for many servers at one point. I could see maybe 500k but not 127k like they are suggesting.

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  • WertheWerthe Member Posts: 236

    Originally posted by Sukiyaki

    Originally posted by Werthe

    Originally posted by Qazz

    Trion hasn't released sales numbers yet.  So where did that site get it's data?

    Here's what the quoted website says:

    "Well unfortunately if we were to release detailed information at this stage on exactly where we get our data from then everyone would jump on the bandwagon and competitors would likely get their cheque books out and try to block anyone from providing us with any more data. Suffice to say (and this is where I do have to simply ask people for trust) that we do get data from a number of small retailers."

     

    Damage control it all you wan't. They are always close to official sales numbers.

    If frequent inaccurancies of +40% and higher from official sales numbers means "close to official" or "accurate" to you, you have to tell that, because using your own definitions far off  from the general consesus can bring up missunderstandings.

     

    Ok then. Instead of 127k, Trion sold 177800 copies.

  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240

    Originally posted by Cammy

    A) It doesn't matter - the game is thriving very well and the only people who are complaining are the ones on the forums

    B) This is likely boxed sales and it's probably very accurate. However, it likely doesn't account for digital (like myself and many others) have purchased, therefore has no reflection of the actual population. 

    Hell - you can get it direct from Trion's website - which many people have done. There's no way to know how many they've sold from there until they publish it. 

    That said, for box sales (See B), its probably dead on.... and actually - that's a huge number when you consider how many pre-orders and online sales they made. 

    A very large amount of preorders went through the Trion site. A lot of Gamestop customers also canceled their Gamestop preorders and went through Steam/D2D/Trion due to Gamestop botching the whole Preorder code thing. Same really for Amazon.com because they weren't sending out codes on time and people paniced. And a lot of Vgchartz info is based on figures from Gamestop and other smaller brick and mortar retailers - digital sales are never really figured in.

    So yeah, for box sales the numbers might be spot on, but in this day and age who really buys retail boxes anymore?

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  • DeathofsageDeathofsage Member UncommonPosts: 1,102

    Originally posted by SaintViktor

    Those numbers seem to be considerably low considering they they had a ton of queue times for many servers at one point. I could see maybe 500k but not 127k like they are suggesting.

    Have they published a number for what signifies a server as full?

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  • WertheWerthe Member Posts: 236

    Originally posted by Sukiyaki

    Originally posted by Werthe

    Originally posted by Sukiyaki

    Originally posted by Werthe

    Originally posted by Qazz

    Trion hasn't released sales numbers yet.  So where did that site get it's data?

    Here's what the quoted website says:

    "Well unfortunately if we were to release detailed information at this stage on exactly where we get our data from then everyone would jump on the bandwagon and competitors would likely get their cheque books out and try to block anyone from providing us with any more data. Suffice to say (and this is where I do have to simply ask people for trust) that we do get data from a number of small retailers."

     

    Damage control it all you wan't. They are always close to official sales numbers.

    If frequent inaccurancies of +40% and higher from official sales numbers means "close to official" or "accurate" to you, you have to tell that, because using your own definitions far off  from the general consesus can bring up missunderstandings.

     

    Ok then. Instead of 127k, Trion sold 177800 copies.

    Said whom? Reknown innaracurate charts? Or the ignorant hater?

    I just added 40%. And dont shoot the messenger. It's not my fault the sales are dissapointing.

  • WertheWerthe Member Posts: 236

    Originally posted by Sukiyaki

    Originally posted by Werthe

    Originally posted by Sukiyaki

    Originally posted by Werthe

    Originally posted by Sukiyaki

    Originally posted by Werthe

    Originally posted by Qazz

    Trion hasn't released sales numbers yet.  So where did that site get it's data?

    Here's what the quoted website says:

    "Well unfortunately if we were to release detailed information at this stage on exactly where we get our data from then everyone would jump on the bandwagon and competitors would likely get their cheque books out and try to block anyone from providing us with any more data. Suffice to say (and this is where I do have to simply ask people for trust) that we do get data from a number of small retailers."

     

    Damage control it all you wan't. They are always close to official sales numbers.

    If frequent inaccurancies of +40% and higher from official sales numbers means "close to official" or "accurate" to you, you have to tell that, because using your own definitions far off  from the general consesus can bring up missunderstandings.

     

    Ok then. Instead of 127k, Trion sold 177800 copies.

    Said whom? Reknown innaracurate charts? Or the ignorant hater?

    I just added 40%. And dont shoot the messenger. It's not my fault the sales are dissapointing.

    So you just added 40% to the inaccurate charts. Now say. How do you know the chart is just innaccurate by 40%?

     

    Yeah, you said that the inaccurancies are often 40% ( wthitout a source btw) so i added 40% just to satisfy your itch. And secondly, i dont have to proove or know anything. I sent a link from a reputable source. If you don't like what you've read, complain to them.

  • KothosesKothoses Member UncommonPosts: 931

    Now I am no Rift fanboy, I bailed during Beta due to boredom and have not bought it.  However I will say that the site named has a reputation for "reasonable relative accuracy" but that this reputation comes from the days when Digital distribution meant "validated on steam".  Since steam doesnt give exact release figures, since Direct2drive doesnt and since the site its self doesnt its safe to say that we do not yet know how many copies have been sold, and that this is at best, an educated guess.

  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910

    Originally posted by Qazz

    Originally posted by Werthe

    Originally posted by Qazz

    Trion hasn't released sales numbers yet.  So where did that site get it's data?
    Here's what the quoted website says:
    "Well unfortunately if we were to release detailed information at this stage on exactly where we get our data from then everyone would jump on the bandwagon and competitors would likely get their cheque books out and try to block anyone from providing us with any more data. Suffice to say (and this is where I do have to simply ask people for trust) that we do get data from a number of small retailers."
     
    Damage control it all you wan't. They are always close to official sales numbers.
    How could they even be close on digital sales? "We're not telling" ROFL.  Trion was selling direct from their website and nobody knows how much they've sold yet.
    All those people can do is a wild guess since there haven't been any sales numbers released whatsoever.  That's a fact.  Haters gonna hate.

    Most of the people I know bought directly from Trion. I'm one of the weirdos that likes Steam and got it there. I don't think anyone else even purchased from EB Games or anything like that. So out of 16 people, 1 didn't get the game from Trion.

    Steam pretty consistently shows 10k to 14k people playing at any given time. Not sure about D2D or anywhere else.

    * edit *
    XFire shows about 4,900 average per day with an upward trend. I don't know what any of that means. I would be happy seeing some actual sales numbers or something from Trion. VGChartz is usually pretty accurate, but I'd like to see sales from the multitude of sources for Rift, rather than the small retailers.

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  • sacredfoolsacredfool Member UncommonPosts: 849

    The site had 3.2 mil Cata sales on it's charts when in reality the sales were 4.7 million.

     

    Now, that is a 1.5 million of sales diffence FOR AN ESTABLISHED game. For a game that is unestablished, and that has no records of previous sales to base the data on, the disparity is probably way way more then those 50%, especially that it seems Rift was distributed mainly digitally. 

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  • WertheWerthe Member Posts: 236

    Originally posted by Sukiyaki

    So you assumed since I said "40% and higher" its definitely just 40? Shure you are just a messenger and not trying to put more value on these charts than they have?

    They are only reputable to be far off from the official numbers and inaccurate. Thats it. Why keep insisting on them?

     

    They are more reputable than you, so i'll stick with them.

  • Tyvolus1Tyvolus1 Member Posts: 815

    As of right now, on Amazons OFFICIAL SITE,   -- RIFT Collectors edition is #1 for PC games sold by digital download.  The regular edition download of RIFT is #3.

    The boxed versions are #42 and #47 respectively.

    Not bad at all considering the robust sales Amazon enjoys.  And going by what Amazon is reporting the VAST MAJORITY are buying in digital.

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  • solarinesolarine Member Posts: 1,203

    Originally posted by Werthe

    Originally posted by Sukiyaki

    So you assumed since I said "40% and higher" its definitely just 40? Shure you are just a messenger and not trying to put more value on these charts than they have?

    They are only reputable to be far off from the official numbers and inaccurate. Thats it. Why keep insisting on them?

     

    They are more reputable than you, so i'll stick with them.

     

    True as that may be, nobody is more reputable than simple math. :)

  • WertheWerthe Member Posts: 236

    Originally posted by solarine

    Originally posted by Werthe

    Originally posted by Sukiyaki

    So you assumed since I said "40% and higher" its definitely just 40? Shure you are just a messenger and not trying to put more value on these charts than they have?

    They are only reputable to be far off from the official numbers and inaccurate. Thats it. Why keep insisting on them?

     

    They are more reputable than you, so i'll stick with them.

     

    True as that may be, nobody is more reputable than simple math. :)

     

    But i don't see simple math making any statements about Rift sales.

  • Alexandru987Alexandru987 Member Posts: 14

    Hello,

     

    Just wanted to say i got this game 2 days ago... basically becouse i had friends play it and they all said it`s good. So far i do agree with them, it`s so polished i would have never guessed it just released and the combat is fluid. 

     

    Also pvp queue is quite fast (from instant during the day to 5 minutes at 4am - GMT +2)

     

    There is little to hate about this game... rifts are also fun so far, i`d say a very good first impression.

     

    Also the price, 9 euro/month is a good deal, and they only charge me after 30 days so i can cancel the 6 months sub if i don`t like it untill then. 

    Servers are pretty much high pop with 1-2 medium and 1-2 low... 

    Anyway, it`s just my opinion... 

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