look at the timing. at first it was just sony and that was its own thing. but things have really ramped up after the 31st of last month.
hey, if that means they can line them against the wall and shoot them.. then it gets my vote..
The people involved should be punished harshly, I don't care if they are a minor or an adult. They broke the law, a slap on the hand because the parents child hacked a company is not enough. Fine the parents a few thousand and send the brat to prison for a few months to a few years and lets see how he/she likes it.
I don't care if they think they are some "virtual crusaders" going against "evil companies" for the good of everyone. Freakin idiots.
As to your post, I did not know that it is now considered an act of war if someone hacks. But it does make sense, hopefully the CIA or other security agencies stop these freaks from hacking companies.
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Should just make some new laws making penalties for doing these types of attacks more stringent.
Maybe a 5~10K$ fine?
I know if I had kids and ended up having to pay 10K dollars because they were dicking around on the internet doing DDoS on some random stupid company... they'd lose their computer pretty fast.
I'm pretty sure 5 - 10 years in prison would be a better deterrent.
Thats disproportional for the crime and you know it.
Maybe if every punishment was disporportionally larger than the crime and we actually made criminals serve their time, then they would stop and think before making a dumb choice.
The reason why people commit retarded crimes is that they think they will never get caught. Hacking a game is pretty retarded. And by the way, in the medieval times you got your arm cut off for stealing. That is as disproportional as it can be, however there were still people who were stealing.
Hmm, maybe they should chop the hands off of the people who hack?
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Call me a consiracy nut if you will, but if you look outside the realm of gaming these hacks are no different than the cyberwarfare hacks on Lockheed Martin and its subsidiaries this past weekend. It is possible, all be it slim, that the same people making attacks on these government data farms are hitting the game companies too. This is because it's a good test of Western based companies digital security. Companies like sony, CCP, and so on do everything online, so they have good firewalls and security in place, great testing grounds for working up to hitting bigger fish. I am sure I will be proven wrong in time, but for now I think it is all a little suspicious.
Should just make some new laws making penalties for doing these types of attacks more stringent.
Maybe a 5~10K$ fine?
I know if I had kids and ended up having to pay 10K dollars because they were dicking around on the internet doing DDoS on some random stupid company... they'd lose their computer pretty fast.
I'm pretty sure 5 - 10 years in prison would be a better deterrent.
Thats disproportional for the crime and you know it.
Maybe if every punishment was disporportionally larger than the crime and we actually made criminals serve their time, then they would stop and think before making a dumb choice.
The reason why people commit retarded crimes is that they think they will never get caught. Hacking a game is pretty retarded. And by the way, in the medieval times you got your arm cut off for stealing. That is as disproportional as it can be, however there were still people who were stealing.
Hmm, maybe they should chop the hands off of the people who hack?
This would probably get my vote, especially when it involves theft of PI or other finanical information.
This is not a petty crime, its right up with armed robbery and 10-20-Life (which is prevalent in my state) would be definitely applicable.
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I'm wondering if we'll here that they "deserved it" like we read so many people say about sony. Somehow I doubt it.
Sony did diserve it. CCP did not diserve it.
apperantly they did... seems they had weaknesses in their security too... and being the... third.. fourth victim you would have thought they be able to plug what ever hole these guys used...?
Should just make some new laws making penalties for doing these types of attacks more stringent.
Maybe a 5~10K$ fine?
I know if I had kids and ended up having to pay 10K dollars because they were dicking around on the internet doing DDoS on some random stupid company... they'd lose their computer pretty fast.
I'm pretty sure 5 - 10 years in prison would be a better deterrent.
Thats disproportional for the crime and you know it.
Maybe if every punishment was disporportionally larger than the crime and we actually made criminals serve their time, then they would stop and think before making a dumb choice.
The reason why people commit retarded crimes is that they think they will never get caught. Hacking a game is pretty retarded. And by the way, in the medieval times you got your arm cut off for stealing. That is as disproportional as it can be, however there were still people who were stealing.
Hmm, maybe they should chop the hands off of the people who hack?
In the parts of the world where hacking is about the only voice of freedom and information thanks to a totalitarian government, when said totalitarian government catches hackers, they do exactly that, or lock them away without trial, sometimes followed by a first class hanging.
On the scale of being thrill seeking gangstas that live on the dangerous side of the law, the guys that pull this kind of crap are Vanilla Ice.
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
Should just make some new laws making penalties for doing these types of attacks more stringent.
Maybe a 5~10K$ fine?
I know if I had kids and ended up having to pay 10K dollars because they were dicking around on the internet doing DDoS on some random stupid company... they'd lose their computer pretty fast.
I'm pretty sure 5 - 10 years in prison would be a better deterrent.
Thats disproportional for the crime and you know it.
Maybe if every punishment was disporportionally larger than the crime and we actually made criminals serve their time, then they would stop and think before making a dumb choice.
The reason why people commit retarded crimes is that they think they will never get caught. Hacking a game is pretty retarded. And by the way, in the medieval times you got your arm cut off for stealing. That is as disproportional as it can be, however there were still people who were stealing.
Hmm, maybe they should chop the hands off of the people who hack?
This would probably get my vote, especially when it involves theft of PI or other finanical information.
This is not a petty crime, its right up with armed robbery and 10-20-Life (which is prevalent in my state) would be definitely applicable.
No it's not a petty crime at all. What if one of these companys went under and tens of thousands of people more are unemployed. These people are just screwing around probably for their own entertainment, but you get my vote with 10-20 years in prison. At least at the scale these people are doing it.
Everyone is so up in arms over this "hacking". If it's a legitimate hack and data is damaged and/or stolen, I believe it should be considered a serious crime. Malicious destruction of property or theft (possibly grand theft if the data is considered worth a large sum) is not cool by any means.
Simply accessing a system with no malicious intent is akin to trespassing. Still not particularly cool, but if there is no harm intended, at least it highlights a weakness in the current system. Probably should still be punishable to a much lesser degree.
A DDoS attack on the other hand should not be punishable by law. It's rough equivalent is a sit-in, which used to be fairly common within the US. They were used as a means to protest. A bunch of people sitting in front of a building essentially "denied service" of that building. A DDoS is the same concept. Many simultaneous connections used to deny access to a server. Of course, there needs to be some sort of distinction between doing it as a means of protest and doing it for the "lulz". Then again, if people staged in a sit-in within the US in modern times, they would probably be tear gassed.
Should just make some new laws making penalties for doing these types of attacks more stringent.
Maybe a 5~10K$ fine?
I know if I had kids and ended up having to pay 10K dollars because they were dicking around on the internet doing DDoS on some random stupid company... they'd lose their computer pretty fast.
I'm pretty sure 5 - 10 years in prison would be a better deterrent.
Thats disproportional for the crime and you know it.
Maybe if every punishment was disporportionally larger than the crime and we actually made criminals serve their time, then they would stop and think before making a dumb choice.
The reason why people commit retarded crimes is that they think they will never get caught. Hacking a game is pretty retarded. And by the way, in the medieval times you got your arm cut off for stealing. That is as disproportional as it can be, however there were still people who were stealing.
Hmm, maybe they should chop the hands off of the people who hack?
This would probably get my vote, especially when it involves theft of PI or other finanical information.
This is not a petty crime, its right up with armed robbery and 10-20-Life (which is prevalent in my state) would be definitely applicable.
No it's not a petty crime at all. What if one of these companys went under and tens of thousands of people more are unemployed. These people are just screwing around probably for their own entertainment, but you get my vote with 10-20 years in prison. At least at the scale these people are doing it.
steal of data happens well before internet dude, and if a company go under by a simple data thief the "hack" was not the cause,also its better they start to take security serious not like oh its will never happen here or its impossible (like I know some IT techs love to say), thing is half of people here don't even know what is talking about he thinks he knows, hence why people get hacked and accidents happens
ok having helped clarify why these responses are so frequent now i want to talk about something else.
the reponse some of you have had.
sitting there in your chair ragenerding because you cant play a video game. talking about chopping off people's hands, executing them, taking their lives from them. simply because it inconvienienced you.
ok firstly, nobody posting in this thread is important. nobody in your rl lives thinks youre important, nobody on the internet does either. you cant play a game right now deal with it. people do not deserve to have their lives taken away from them for something like this.
the real reason this whole thing is even possible is the outsourcing of our it administration on a global scale.
when british it people were taking care of british it, american it people were taking care of american it, and so so on and so forth. these attacks werent nearly as easy to do.
but when we started outsourcing it security to firms out of india and china, all of a sudden, it seemed like every firewall was made out of wet notebook paper. this isnt a coincidence. most "level 2" it techs you speak to are complete morons that only know how to spam words into a database and wait for a response. they have no real idea how the internet, nor a computer works. all in the name of "cheaper labor"
if these companies had hired real it people and security experts in the first place, none of this would have happened.
lastly if they had their own people and they still got hacked, thats what they get for hiring idiots. its easy to stay away from shit like this. make sure you patch every security patch, test the security of your network on a constant basis, and fix security holes you find on a day to day, ongoing basis.
if the internet is your business, you should treat it as such. rather than scratch your head and cry like a baby when your network gets hacked because you didnt spend what you needed to spend in order to take care of it.
Games i'm playing right now...
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Nah OP, I made a serious comment on your other thread. I have the feeling LulzSec won't do anything more serious than DDoS attacks which, while definitely inconvenient, are pretty low on the danger level.
It depends on the outcome and reasons for the hacking, but I believe in harsh punishment. If the end result is harm for individuals and business then serious actions need to take place. 5 years in prison is nothing for the potential amount of damages. Millions of people affected, possible jobs lost. I don't think those individuals realize how many lives they are harming. Perhaps they think they are just sticking it to the "the man."
Someone said, just ban them from the internet. And how exactly would you do that? Assign a government agent to monitor them 24/7 wasting tax dollars? What's to stop them from going to an internet cafe, a friends house, or even a library?
No there needs to be serious actions taken. Serious time in jail and major fines that they can't possibly pay off in the next 10 years. If companies were forced to layoff people then the amount of yearly salary for those layoffs should be their fine. Hacking should not be cool or fun. These actions are the same as a robbing a company and their consumers.
As for the person that said public caning...sure...bring it on.
ok having helped clarify why these responses are so frequent now i want to talk about something else.
the reponse some of you have had.
sitting there in your chair ragenerding because you cant play a video game. talking about chopping off people's hands, executing them, taking their lives from them. simply because it inconvienienced you.
ok firstly, nobody posting in this thread is important. nobody in your rl lives thinks youre important, nobody on the internet does either. you cant play a game right now deal with it. people do not deserve to have their lives taken away from them for something like this.
the real reason this whole thing is even possible is the outsourcing of our it administration on a global scale.
when british it people were taking care of british it, american it people were taking care of american it, and so so on and so forth. these attacks werent nearly as easy to do.
but when we started outsourcing it security to firms out of india and china, all of a sudden, it seemed like every firewall was made out of wet notebook paper. this isnt a coincidence. most "level 2" it techs you speak to are complete morons that only know how to spam words into a database and wait for a response. they have no real idea how the internet, nor a computer works. all in the name of "cheaper labor"
if these companies had hired real it people and security experts in the first place, none of this would have happened.
lastly if they had their own people and they still got hacked, thats what they get for hiring idiots. its easy to stay away from shit like this. make sure you patch every security patch, test the security of your network on a constant basis, and fix security holes you find on a day to day, ongoing basis.
if the internet is your business, you should treat it as such. rather than scratch your head and cry like a baby when your network gets hacked because you didnt spend what you needed to spend in order to take care of it.
I was in the middle of building my manufacturing colony when this happened, I'm mad bro!
Seriusly, and all joking aside. I think we need to randomly execute people on a rgular basis; especially kids. I believe this is the only way for me to play my internet spaceship game on a cuntinueous, uninterupted basis.
It's not about a "video game," and a protest blocking a street isn't really a good metaphor. You should never tell anyone to kill themselves. Please "check yourself before you wreck yourself." :-)
As I said in my other post, it all depends on the outcome. A denial of service is simply that, denied service. How long does it occur? 24 hours, 72 hours? How many consumers are affected? How much potential money did the business lose because of the actions. Yes, it is a crime worthy of punishment. Is it a repeated offense?
What if someone set fires to your favorite department store's door. You couldn't go in the store, but the store itself was fine. Maybe it was closed for a few days to repair the doors. You think everything is fine, but on the business side of things money was lost. The store has a goal to meet and most likely they didnt meet their monthly goal. If it happens again someone may lose their job, and the store could eventually close. Maybe as a consumer that was your only day you could go shopping. Now you've lost time that had planned.
Some of you that think in small pictures need to getter a larger grasp of life. Things like a denial of service can ruin a company and it's consumers.
ok having helped clarify why these responses are so frequent now i want to talk about something else.
the reponse some of you have had.
sitting there in your chair ragenerding because you cant play a video game. talking about chopping off people's hands, executing them, taking their lives from them. simply because it inconvienienced you.
ok firstly, nobody posting in this thread is important. nobody in your rl lives thinks youre important, nobody on the internet does either. you cant play a game right now deal with it. people do not deserve to have their lives taken away from them for something like this.
the real reason this whole thing is even possible is the outsourcing of our it administration on a global scale.
when british it people were taking care of british it, american it people were taking care of american it, and so so on and so forth. these attacks werent nearly as easy to do.
but when we started outsourcing it security to firms out of india and china, all of a sudden, it seemed like every firewall was made out of wet notebook paper. this isnt a coincidence. most "level 2" it techs you speak to are complete morons that only know how to spam words into a database and wait for a response. they have no real idea how the internet, nor a computer works. all in the name of "cheaper labor"
if these companies had hired real it people and security experts in the first place, none of this would have happened.
lastly if they had their own people and they still got hacked, thats what they get for hiring idiots. its easy to stay away from shit like this. make sure you patch every security patch, test the security of your network on a constant basis, and fix security holes you find on a day to day, ongoing basis.
if the internet is your business, you should treat it as such. rather than scratch your head and cry like a baby when your network gets hacked because you didnt spend what you needed to spend in order to take care of it.
I think you are in serious danger of missing the point entirely
Yes ok, some of the hacks have just been games and is not the most important thing in the world.
However both the US senate and the IMF have been hit by hacks..
Point is this kind of rubbish should be stamped out NOW, before it hits more critical systems, and does more than just knock out a game for a while...
why wait until the fire has engulfed the whole forest to try and put it out, kill it while it is still relatively small and harmless
Should just make some new laws making penalties for doing these types of attacks more stringent.
Maybe a 5~10K$ fine?
I know if I had kids and ended up having to pay 10K dollars because they were dicking around on the internet doing DDoS on some random stupid company... they'd lose their computer pretty fast.
I'm pretty sure 5 - 10 years in prison would be a better deterrent.
Thats disproportional for the crime and you know it.
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I'm surprised it took 7 posts for someone to say something along these lines.
The people involved should be punished harshly, I don't care if they are a minor or an adult. They broke the law, a slap on the hand because the parents child hacked a company is not enough. Fine the parents a few thousand and send the brat to prison for a few months to a few years and lets see how he/she likes it.
I don't care if they think they are some "virtual crusaders" going against "evil companies" for the good of everyone. Freakin idiots.
As to your post, I did not know that it is now considered an act of war if someone hacks. But it does make sense, hopefully the CIA or other security agencies stop these freaks from hacking companies.
Games playing: Lotro,Fallen Earth,Star Trek Online.
Games playing casually: CoX,Guild Wars,FFXIV,Champions Online,DDO.
Games Played: WoW,DR,L2,RoM,FFXI,Earthrise,EQ2,DAoC,WAR,Rift,Alganon,EVE,G&H Rome Rising.
Waiting for: Guild Wars 2 and Star Wars: The Old Republic.
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Hmm, maybe they should chop the hands off of the people who hack?
Games playing: Lotro,Fallen Earth,Star Trek Online.
Games playing casually: CoX,Guild Wars,FFXIV,Champions Online,DDO.
Games Played: WoW,DR,L2,RoM,FFXI,Earthrise,EQ2,DAoC,WAR,Rift,Alganon,EVE,G&H Rome Rising.
Waiting for: Guild Wars 2 and Star Wars: The Old Republic.
PC Specs: Intel i7 990x 3.5ghz, 6gb ddr3 Ram,EVGA GTX 570 SC FTW,EVGA x58 Classified 4-way SLI MB, 2TB HDD 7200rpm, 60GB Intel SSD: OS Drive, Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, Westinghouse 21 in. 1680x1050.
According to info on eurgamer.net it's just DDOS attack, which would mean that the security wasn't breached:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-14-eve-online-minecraft-hacked
EDIT: Based on EVE online twitter feed, I think eurgamer.net is wrong and it's something worse /EDIT
This kind of stuff happens and is done "because they can". They have the knowledge for it and test it against what they percive as chalenges.
For all i know they could be thinking they're "testing the security".
That person is going to be caught and is going to have to face consequences of their actions.
Isntead of bitching because i can't play EvE i'm going to go and bitch because i'm getting pwned by the zerg.
Existence is a paradox. It just is.
Call me a consiracy nut if you will, but if you look outside the realm of gaming these hacks are no different than the cyberwarfare hacks on Lockheed Martin and its subsidiaries this past weekend. It is possible, all be it slim, that the same people making attacks on these government data farms are hitting the game companies too. This is because it's a good test of Western based companies digital security. Companies like sony, CCP, and so on do everything online, so they have good firewalls and security in place, great testing grounds for working up to hitting bigger fish. I am sure I will be proven wrong in time, but for now I think it is all a little suspicious.
This would probably get my vote, especially when it involves theft of PI or other finanical information.
This is not a petty crime, its right up with armed robbery and 10-20-Life (which is prevalent in my state) would be definitely applicable.
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apperantly they did... seems they had weaknesses in their security too... and being the... third.. fourth victim you would have thought they be able to plug what ever hole these guys used...?
This have been a good conversation
In the parts of the world where hacking is about the only voice of freedom and information thanks to a totalitarian government, when said totalitarian government catches hackers, they do exactly that, or lock them away without trial, sometimes followed by a first class hanging.
On the scale of being thrill seeking gangstas that live on the dangerous side of the law, the guys that pull this kind of crap are Vanilla Ice.
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
No it's not a petty crime at all. What if one of these companys went under and tens of thousands of people more are unemployed. These people are just screwing around probably for their own entertainment, but you get my vote with 10-20 years in prison. At least at the scale these people are doing it.
Everyone is so up in arms over this "hacking". If it's a legitimate hack and data is damaged and/or stolen, I believe it should be considered a serious crime. Malicious destruction of property or theft (possibly grand theft if the data is considered worth a large sum) is not cool by any means.
Simply accessing a system with no malicious intent is akin to trespassing. Still not particularly cool, but if there is no harm intended, at least it highlights a weakness in the current system. Probably should still be punishable to a much lesser degree.
A DDoS attack on the other hand should not be punishable by law. It's rough equivalent is a sit-in, which used to be fairly common within the US. They were used as a means to protest. A bunch of people sitting in front of a building essentially "denied service" of that building. A DDoS is the same concept. Many simultaneous connections used to deny access to a server. Of course, there needs to be some sort of distinction between doing it as a means of protest and doing it for the "lulz". Then again, if people staged in a sit-in within the US in modern times, they would probably be tear gassed.
Hiding behind 239 proxies, into your mmorpg
lol
But yeah, this is starting to be a trend, it needs to stop at some point
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Wonder when they will hit Blizzard and hold all their accounts hostage?
steal of data happens well before internet dude, and if a company go under by a simple data thief the "hack" was not the cause,also its better they start to take security serious not like oh its will never happen here or its impossible (like I know some IT techs love to say), thing is half of people here don't even know what is talking about he thinks he knows, hence why people get hacked and accidents happens
ok having helped clarify why these responses are so frequent now i want to talk about something else.
the reponse some of you have had.
sitting there in your chair ragenerding because you cant play a video game. talking about chopping off people's hands, executing them, taking their lives from them. simply because it inconvienienced you.
ok firstly, nobody posting in this thread is important. nobody in your rl lives thinks youre important, nobody on the internet does either. you cant play a game right now deal with it. people do not deserve to have their lives taken away from them for something like this.
the real reason this whole thing is even possible is the outsourcing of our it administration on a global scale.
when british it people were taking care of british it, american it people were taking care of american it, and so so on and so forth. these attacks werent nearly as easy to do.
but when we started outsourcing it security to firms out of india and china, all of a sudden, it seemed like every firewall was made out of wet notebook paper. this isnt a coincidence. most "level 2" it techs you speak to are complete morons that only know how to spam words into a database and wait for a response. they have no real idea how the internet, nor a computer works. all in the name of "cheaper labor"
if these companies had hired real it people and security experts in the first place, none of this would have happened.
lastly if they had their own people and they still got hacked, thats what they get for hiring idiots. its easy to stay away from shit like this. make sure you patch every security patch, test the security of your network on a constant basis, and fix security holes you find on a day to day, ongoing basis.
if the internet is your business, you should treat it as such. rather than scratch your head and cry like a baby when your network gets hacked because you didnt spend what you needed to spend in order to take care of it.
Games i'm playing right now...
"In short, I thought NGE was a very bad idea" - Raph Koster talking about NGE on his blog at raphkoster.com
Gideon, you're a psyker. Seek them out, fry their minds, turn them inside out. Send them to an eternity of torture and pain in the Warp.
Nah OP, I made a serious comment on your other thread. I have the feeling LulzSec won't do anything more serious than DDoS attacks which, while definitely inconvenient, are pretty low on the danger level.
It depends on the outcome and reasons for the hacking, but I believe in harsh punishment. If the end result is harm for individuals and business then serious actions need to take place. 5 years in prison is nothing for the potential amount of damages. Millions of people affected, possible jobs lost. I don't think those individuals realize how many lives they are harming. Perhaps they think they are just sticking it to the "the man."
Someone said, just ban them from the internet. And how exactly would you do that? Assign a government agent to monitor them 24/7 wasting tax dollars? What's to stop them from going to an internet cafe, a friends house, or even a library?
No there needs to be serious actions taken. Serious time in jail and major fines that they can't possibly pay off in the next 10 years. If companies were forced to layoff people then the amount of yearly salary for those layoffs should be their fine. Hacking should not be cool or fun. These actions are the same as a robbing a company and their consumers.
As for the person that said public caning...sure...bring it on.
I bet you have Uber Micro.
I was in the middle of building my manufacturing colony when this happened, I'm mad bro!
Seriusly, and all joking aside. I think we need to randomly execute people on a rgular basis; especially kids. I believe this is the only way for me to play my internet spaceship game on a cuntinueous, uninterupted basis.
It's not about a "video game," and a protest blocking a street isn't really a good metaphor. You should never tell anyone to kill themselves. Please "check yourself before you wreck yourself." :-)
As I said in my other post, it all depends on the outcome. A denial of service is simply that, denied service. How long does it occur? 24 hours, 72 hours? How many consumers are affected? How much potential money did the business lose because of the actions. Yes, it is a crime worthy of punishment. Is it a repeated offense?
What if someone set fires to your favorite department store's door. You couldn't go in the store, but the store itself was fine. Maybe it was closed for a few days to repair the doors. You think everything is fine, but on the business side of things money was lost. The store has a goal to meet and most likely they didnt meet their monthly goal. If it happens again someone may lose their job, and the store could eventually close. Maybe as a consumer that was your only day you could go shopping. Now you've lost time that had planned.
Some of you that think in small pictures need to getter a larger grasp of life. Things like a denial of service can ruin a company and it's consumers.
Not entirely true,
it could be argued that by making DUST514 a ps3 exclusive, CCP are seen to be joining the side of and supporting Sony
shhh... you might wake the trolls
I think you are in serious danger of missing the point entirely
Yes ok, some of the hacks have just been games and is not the most important thing in the world.
However both the US senate and the IMF have been hit by hacks..
Point is this kind of rubbish should be stamped out NOW, before it hits more critical systems, and does more than just knock out a game for a while...
why wait until the fire has engulfed the whole forest to try and put it out, kill it while it is still relatively small and harmless
shhh... you might wake the trolls
Further hits also on the UKs National Health Service websites and databases..
Can you seriously still say its just about games?
NHS... IMF... and the US senate?
How long before someone calls themselves skynet and hacks military systems and start world war 3?
shhh... you might wake the trolls
epic games hacked also read that on rock papper shotgun yesterday
Heres your teeth back!
yea, should be life no parole.
Currently bored with MMO's.