Seems fine to me. They are low level characters going through a low level area.
It's no more "boring" than any other mmo.
It's not touted as an fps game.
And it does not look like WoW in space. Not at all.
I think people buy into hype way to much and would advise them to actually play GW2 and Tera and SWToR before they make judtgments.
I remember seeing all the info for the original GW and I thought it look horrible. Which was not the case when playing it.
Also, I believe being in the driver's seat for a game is a completely different experience than watching a video of someone else playing.
+1 for the common sense post.
For the rest, it's all a matter of taste. We're all humans with different tastes and preferences in what gives us (gaming) enjoyment, so what is fun to one person isn't fun for the next. That's why it's a good thing to have more choice in quality AAA MMO's, something every true MMO gamer that loves MMO's in general would want.
Originally posted by Cyberdeck7
It truely amazes me how many strawmen that gamers who are eating Marketing Hype like cookies will throw out when their rose colored glasses are smudged by people commenting on facts. It's no big surprise - that's all you have. - marketing hype. There could be a couple of professional voices in the game with the rest being devs' trying to disguise their voices on multiple NPCs for all you truely know.
There's actually quite a lot of facts known, so I don't really see your point. As for the professional voices, that's just a silly notion. unless you can bring up proof of it, it's just 100% speculation, in which case I'm going for the amount of known voice actors and actresses that have been announced and recognised in video footage.
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums: Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
Wouldnt a star wars game with 2011 technology have to START development this year? These things take upwards of 5-6 years now. Wasnt that one of Duke Nukem's problems? they were constantly changing technology and engines as new things were released?
I think you may be confusing graphics with game engine. Games coming out now using the Unreal Engine 3 do not look like games from 2009. Graphics /= Game mechanics.
Here is the game design process: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_development#Development_process - Graphics and modeling fall into the programming category at the end of the process just before level and sound design. The end result is games developed on a game engine released in 2009 look better than this game that's about to be released, in probably Christmas 2012 if you're lucky, and yes I am aware of the release date they're hinting at now.
Additionally, you knew exactly what I meant, The game looks like it was built in 2003. Those games took a few years too, so would you be satisified if I said it looked technology from 2000 instead of 2006?
It truely amazes me how many strawmen that gamers who are eating Marketing Hype like cookies will throw out when their rose colored glasses are smudged by people commenting on facts. It's no big surprise - that's all you have. - marketing hype. There could be a couple of professional voices in the game with the rest being devs' trying to disguise their voices on multiple NPCs for all you truely know.
Note - there are many people on both sides that can state their opinions maturely, however the majority seem to fall with the people who are only commenting on what they have actually witnessed.
Ok does anyone else see the irony here?
I don't uderstand - did you miss the "could be" or the "for all you truely know"? Do you know the definition of irony? If you read the thread title, this thread is about the video posted at the top -actual in-game footage. Has anyone actually heard anything other than 5 or 6 voices in the game yet? I haven't.
You state people are commenting on facts, then in the very next sentence you give a statement that is not factual.
How is my statement not factual? - have people heard all of the voices used in game? Do you know for a fact that some arent' just done by the devs. I'll point out again "could be" and "all you truly know" Unless the OP is in the beta and has gone through the game in it's entirety, that statement is completely true.
All main characters and main plot points are done by voice actors. Have you ever played a BioWare game?
Also, in Beta, many times developers provide placeholder work while they wait to implement the voice actors. That being said, this is not an issue in SWTOR. All voice work is professionally done, even if not every line is spoken by a well-known voice actor.
Lol, whoever thinks this looks better than GW2 should be locked up. I mean, these people shouldn't walk freely in a civil society.
Yet another reason for the TOR community to lose respect for people excited/hyped for Guild Wars 2. Please don't make stupid comments like this. You're making the rest of us look bad.
True. I intend to purchase GW2, but when I see statements like that 'people shouldn't walk freely in a civil society', persons like that lose all credibility to me, since apparently their enthusiasm for something as simple as a game has turned them extremely biased and fanatical in their judgements.
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums: Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
That video looked fine to me. It is only the first few levels, watching anyone play ANY mmorpg in the last decade in the first few levels isn't ever fun. I like the combat, it will be familiar and seems to have more animation and fluid feel to it than even WoW. I'm excited to play it. This combined with GW2, thanks to no sub and I'll be a happy mmorpg camper for the next so many years.
What is it with the GW2 fabnatics? Is there not enough hype for their game so they feel the need to talk it up here? I don't care about GW2. And I thought the SWG fans were fanatics. And for the record, I'm glad that I won't be seeing any of you in game. The less morons in game who don't even understand the difference between fact and opinion the better.
Some people still coming out and bashing TOR, how predictable. Boring is just a point of view and nothing more. Let's see, i watched the GW2 pvp video yesterday and i thought it looked boring as hell. I didn't see anything new that some people claim that game has and brings and i almost fell asleep because it looked liked every other fantasy mmo that has come out before.
When will people understand that you don't have to like or even comment on things that you find not to your taste. I personally don't like GW2. As anyone can see, i really want to dive into TOR, cause i am a SW nerd from top to bottom. I'm also interested in the Secret World and a few other games coming down the line. Does that mean i am on the GW2 forum or any of those others bashing certain aspects of the game and inflating TOR, no i'm not.
So, it still comes down to this. You either like TOR or you don't. Why waste time bashing something that you don't like, when you could be invovled in a much deeper discussion about gameplay mechanics and systems on a game that you do like.
setting is no reason to group things together, because Star wars is fantasy also.
You're right. I was just being nice and didn't want to say that GW2 looks like ever other game, ( WOW, DAOC, RIFT, AOC) that is set in a similar fantasy setting.
but it really is not, you are not looking past the skin, there are many changes and it is much diffrent. the simularities are pretty minimal is the setting to be honest. and then gameplay is also something i find it hard to belive is the same as any game on your list.
by what i am hearing you are judging the book by its cover, and by nothing else.
when in accuality TOR is more like those other games THAN gw2.
See, that's the thing. i was just explaining my opinion, not bashing any of those games while trying to make TOR be more than what it is. Some here could care less about this game, yet they come into a forum specifically designated for fans of this game, and bash and start crap for no other reason but to inflate and promote another game they are interested in.
Just reread my origional thread. You like TOR, play it. You don't, move on to the game that you do like and get involved in their discussions.
whoa there rodeo star, dont get bucked off yet. i have not even said that you were bashign anything i just said you have not even broken the skin of the apple before commenting on how it tastes like something else.
See that's the thing. I'm not sticking or grabbing into any other basket to see how those other games taste. If i do want to get into what another game has, i surely am not gonna bash and try to inflate some other game in the process, unlike what some do here on this site. To explain what i meant in my earlier post. GW2 is set in a time, where bows, magic and swords are being used. That puts it into the fantasy setting like the other games i mentioned. You know, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck. The topic of this thread is that TOR looks boring and all i said was that boring is a point of veiw, nothing more.
not good enough. so everything with swords bows and magic is fatasy?
lightsabers(or vibroswords/swords)= swords.
force= magic sure theres no bows but not all fantasy games have bows.
GW2 does have guns so...
blasters = guns.
TOR is a fantasy thats been paited a slightly diffrent hue, still fantasy just with new names and loosk for a few things.
Its cool to hate on ToR because its by a big corporate developer and you have to love GW because its from a plucky indie upstart that doesnt have a bigger market share or corporate presence in its native land than Blizzard.... oh wait....
Its cool to hate on ToR because its by a big corporate developer and you have to love GW because its from a plucky indie upstart that doesnt have a bigger market share or corporate presence in its native land than Blizzard.... oh wait....
This is the day I have been waiting for and dreamed of. The day GW2 fans think they can attack SWToR the same way they attacked the Rift.
Wouldnt a star wars game with 2011 technology have to START development this year? These things take upwards of 5-6 years now. Wasnt that one of Duke Nukem's problems? they were constantly changing technology and engines as new things were released?
I think you may be confusing graphics with game engine. Games coming out now using the Unreal Engine 3 do not look like games from 2009. Graphics /= Game mechanics.
Here is the game design process: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_development#Development_process - Graphics and modeling fall into the programming category at the end of the process just before level and sound design. The end result is games developed on a game engine released in 2009 look better than this game that's about to be released, in probably Christmas 2012 if you're lucky, and yes I am aware of the release date they're hinting at now.
Additionally, you knew exactly what I meant, The game looks like it was built in 2003. Those games took a few years too, so would you be satisified if I said it looked technology from 2000 instead of 2006?
It truely amazes me how many strawmen that gamers who are eating Marketing Hype like cookies will throw out when their rose colored glasses are smudged by people commenting on facts. It's no big surprise - that's all you have. - marketing hype. There could be a couple of professional voices in the game with the rest being devs' trying to disguise their voices on multiple NPCs for all you truely know.
Note - there are many people on both sides that can state their opinions maturely, however the majority seem to fall with the people who are only commenting on what they have actually witnessed.
Ok does anyone else see the irony here?
I don't uderstand - did you miss the "could be" or the "for all you truely know"? Do you know the definition of irony? If you read the thread title, this thread is about the video posted at the top -actual in-game footage. Has anyone actually heard anything other than 5 or 6 voices in the game yet? I haven't.
Stylized graphics does not mean the graphics aren't current or comparable to other current MMOs.
Animations look nice, but textures. I had honestly expected a lot more. They are less than mediocre IMO.
Textures look great to me. I'm hoping my pc can run it at max settings @ about 60 fps. The game reminds me of a little more realistic looking Clone Wars. And double bonus, Clone Wars Season 4 premieres September 14th!
The statement is your opinion that is not based on fact, I believe there is a list of voice actors that have lent their voices to the game and it is quite extensive.
Its cool to hate on ToR because its by a big corporate developer and you have to love GW because its from a plucky indie upstart that doesnt have a bigger market share or corporate presence in its native land than Blizzard.... oh wait....
ANet was and is not indy.
they are attached to one of the wealiest companies in the gaming world.
no one has picked fun at who made it, they picked fun at the things they have seen.
Anet has a proven track record, and Biowares track record is slowly slipping,but thats not what people care about.
we care about what we see. we dont care what we are told, we need proof.
GW2 has offered us proof of what they are doing as they go, though videos and game tiriles with the contect they usually just announced for people to play.
now unlike TOR, GW2 has been getting better reveiws of the previews because it simply is good and does what they have said.
TOR on the otherhand, doe snot get as good reveiws simply because it may be along the tried and true path. but people are getting a tad... bored of that
Stylized graphics does not mean the graphics aren't current or comparable to other current MMOs.
Animations look nice, but textures. I had honestly expected a lot more. They are less than mediocre IMO.
Textures look great to me. I'm hoping my pc can run it at max settings @ about 60 fps. The game reminds me of a little more realistic looking Clone Wars. And double bonus, Clone Wars Season 4 premieres September 14th!
dont worry it will, depending on how they optimize it, the game has quite.. simple effects, nothing flashy. the textures do not looki to be complex enough to cause any problems and it seems to have simple lighting techniques
The statement is your opinion that is not based on fact, I believe there is a list of voice actors that have lent their voices to the game and it is quite extensive.
That link pretty much proves my point - how many of the voice actors are big names or even recognizable?
Your "point" was that there were probably only 5-6 voice actors and the rest were Bioware staff trying to cover up their voice pretending to be multiple people.
You were proven wrong. Very wrong. Get over it?
Most people who know everyone in Hollywood would not know who Steve Blum is, but everyone who knows video game voice acting (or quality anime) will.
Anet has a proven track record, and Biowares track record is slowly slipping,but thats not what people care about.
Their track record consists of 1 game they made, BW's track record consists of a huge pile of games over 10+ years, many of which are huge hits and respected in the gaming world. I like ANet and their devs, but a bit of objective perspective goes a long way.
we care about what we see. we dont care what we are told, we need proof.
GW2 has offered us proof of what they are doing as they go, though videos and game tiriles with the contect they usually just announced for people to play.
I don't see your point, there's enough 'proof' around for SWTOR as for GW2.
now unlike TOR, GW2 has been getting better reveiws of the previews because it simply is good and does what they have said.
TOR on the otherhand, doe snot get as good reveiws simply because it may be along the tried and true path. but people are getting a tad... bored of that
That's only if you look at purely negative stuff. But the reality is that the large majority of the player reports and reviews have been positive to enthusiastic about their ingame experiences.
You make it sound as if all MMO gamers have grown bored of traditional themepark gameplay, but the stark reality is that millions upon millions of MMO gamers are playing exactly that kind of MMO's, and have been doing so for years. You might be bored of it, some other MMO gamers too, but that doesn't make it 'people', so start to realise if you find something this or that, that not everyone has the same taste as you in their gaming fun.
Originally posted by cloud8521
dont worry it will, depending on how they optimize it, the game has quite.. simple effects, nothing flashy. the textures do not looki to be complex enough to cause any problems and it seems to have simple lighting techniques
In fact, their lighting techniques are pretty complex and elaborate, as their presentations on the Game Developers Conference showed.
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums: Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
Its cool to hate on ToR because its by a big corporate developer and you have to love GW because its from a plucky indie upstart that doesnt have a bigger market share or corporate presence in its native land than Blizzard.... oh wait....
ANet was and is not indy.
they are attached to one of the wealiest companies in the gaming world.
no one has picked fun at who made it, they picked fun at the things they have seen.
Anet has a proven track record, and Biowares track record is slowly slipping,but thats not what people care about.
we care about what we see. we dont care what we are told, we need proof.
GW2 has offered us proof of what they are doing as they go, though videos and game tiriles with the contect they usually just announced for people to play.
now unlike TOR, GW2 has been getting better reveiws of the previews because it simply is good and does what they have said.
TOR on the otherhand, doe snot get as good reveiws simply because it may be along the tried and true path. but people are getting a tad... bored of that
All your opinion.
The original Guild Wars was the worst attempt at an mmo I have ever attempted to play. Bioware has yet to release a game where I felt I wasted my money.
Bioware has a better and bigger reputation than Arenanet. Until Guild Wars 2 releases that won't change.
TOR has gotten plenty of great reviews, that you have obviously chosen to ignore.
You love Guild Wars 2 and are upset because SWTOR is overshadowing it. So much so that you run to the SWTOR forum to attack. Don't you think your taking this too personal?
You make it sound as if all MMO gamers have grown bored of traditional themepark gameplay, but the stark reality is that millions upon millions of MMO gamers are playing exactly that kind of MMO's, and have been doing so for years. You might be bored of it, some other MMO gamers too, but that doesn't make it 'people', so start to realise if you find something this or that, that not everyone has the same taste as you in their gaming fun.
Come on Maverick, I think we all know that "people" really means "those who share my opinion, which is obviously everyone."
The statement is your opinion that is not based on fact, I believe there is a list of voice actors that have lent their voices to the game and it is quite extensive.
That link pretty much proves my point - how many of the voice actors are big names or even recognizable?
Your "point" was that there were probably only 5-6 voice actors and the rest were Bioware staff trying to cover up their voice pretending to be multiple people.
You were proven wrong. Very wrong. Get over it?
Most people who know everyone in Hollywood would not know who Steve Blum is, but everyone who knows video game voice acting (or quality anime) will.
Wish they got mark hamill to do some of the voicing. He's still probably my favorite joker. It would have also been thematically appropriate.
This thread has gotten pretty ridiculous. We went from the OPs opinion that the video looked boring to tossing insults towards people because they like different things. How did GW2 get involved? I'll check out both games, but seriously GW2 isn't even on my radar.
Maybe we all deserve a form instead of an open box to type in. Obviously we can't handle civil discussion.
Can we try using this format for the debate:
I think it looks boring because OR I think it looks exciting because
Reason 1
example
Reason 2
example
Reason 3
example
and refrain from
you are an idiot because you like
I am all-knowing because
insult 1
You are a moron because
insult 2
self - aggrandizing statement 1
is ridiculous because
Strawman
something I'm repeating because someone else said it
Is this possible?
How about those who are in favor of this type of format, example 1, simply ignore posts that are similar to example 2?
Edit: and how about refraining from coloring text? No one's opinion is any more important than anyone elses; making your own stand out is kind of self-inflating.
How about those who are in favor of this type of format, example 1, simply ignore posts that are similar to example 2?
Life isn't as fun without a little bit of drama.
Tearing apart forum trolls with my own brand of sharp tongue trolling is a fun way to pass the time waiting for this stupid hard drive to finish formatting (at work) and until my 2:30 meeting...
Besides, I have the advantage.
I know I am right like 90% of the time because I'm a genius.
It's just a fact.
Even when I'm not right, I'm still less wrong then most people even when they are mostly right.
well, in the end, what is boring and exciting are completely subjective, its impossible to prove one or the other. I find EvE terribly boring, but alot of people really enjoy it. I enjoyed wow for a very long time, many others did not.
What bioware or any company does and how they make their game merely changes the proportions of different people who would find it interesting (hell some people enjoyed Too Human /shudder). The trick and the challenge is to optimize for the type of person who is a member of the group that has the largest population of potential and willing players.
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+1 for the common sense post.
For the rest, it's all a matter of taste. We're all humans with different tastes and preferences in what gives us (gaming) enjoyment, so what is fun to one person isn't fun for the next. That's why it's a good thing to have more choice in quality AAA MMO's, something every true MMO gamer that loves MMO's in general would want.
There's actually quite a lot of facts known, so I don't really see your point. As for the professional voices, that's just a silly notion. unless you can bring up proof of it, it's just 100% speculation, in which case I'm going for the amount of known voice actors and actresses that have been announced and recognised in video footage.
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
All main characters and main plot points are done by voice actors. Have you ever played a BioWare game?
Also, in Beta, many times developers provide placeholder work while they wait to implement the voice actors. That being said, this is not an issue in SWTOR. All voice work is professionally done, even if not every line is spoken by a well-known voice actor.
True. I intend to purchase GW2, but when I see statements like that 'people shouldn't walk freely in a civil society', persons like that lose all credibility to me, since apparently their enthusiasm for something as simple as a game has turned them extremely biased and fanatical in their judgements.
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
That video looked fine to me. It is only the first few levels, watching anyone play ANY mmorpg in the last decade in the first few levels isn't ever fun. I like the combat, it will be familiar and seems to have more animation and fluid feel to it than even WoW. I'm excited to play it. This combined with GW2, thanks to no sub and I'll be a happy mmorpg camper for the next so many years.
Currently Playing: World of Warcraft
not good enough. so everything with swords bows and magic is fatasy?
lightsabers(or vibroswords/swords)= swords.
force= magic sure theres no bows but not all fantasy games have bows.
GW2 does have guns so...
blasters = guns.
TOR is a fantasy thats been paited a slightly diffrent hue, still fantasy just with new names and loosk for a few things.
Did you guys not get the memo?
Its cool to hate on ToR because its by a big corporate developer and you have to love GW because its from a plucky indie upstart that doesnt have a bigger market share or corporate presence in its native land than Blizzard.... oh wait....
This is the day I have been waiting for and dreamed of. The day GW2 fans think they can attack SWToR the same way they attacked the Rift.
/popcorn
http://keenandgraev.com/forums/index.php?topic=3807.0
895+5 or 6
The following statement is false
The previous statement is true
Oh yes the weekly, "I was bored watching other people play a game" post! Yippeee...
To SB fans, please stop making our demographic look bad.Stop invading threads that have nothing to do with sandboxes.
SW:TOR Graphics Evolution and Comparison
SW:TOR Compare MMO Quests, Combat and More...
Textures look great to me. I'm hoping my pc can run it at max settings @ about 60 fps. The game reminds me of a little more realistic looking Clone Wars. And double bonus, Clone Wars Season 4 premieres September 14th!
That link pretty much proves my point - how many of the voice actors are big names or even recognizable?
ANet was and is not indy.
they are attached to one of the wealiest companies in the gaming world.
no one has picked fun at who made it, they picked fun at the things they have seen.
Anet has a proven track record, and Biowares track record is slowly slipping,but thats not what people care about.
we care about what we see. we dont care what we are told, we need proof.
GW2 has offered us proof of what they are doing as they go, though videos and game tiriles with the contect they usually just announced for people to play.
now unlike TOR, GW2 has been getting better reveiws of the previews because it simply is good and does what they have said.
TOR on the otherhand, doe snot get as good reveiws simply because it may be along the tried and true path. but people are getting a tad... bored of that
dont worry it will, depending on how they optimize it, the game has quite.. simple effects, nothing flashy. the textures do not looki to be complex enough to cause any problems and it seems to have simple lighting techniques
Your "point" was that there were probably only 5-6 voice actors and the rest were Bioware staff trying to cover up their voice pretending to be multiple people.
You were proven wrong. Very wrong. Get over it?
Most people who know everyone in Hollywood would not know who Steve Blum is, but everyone who knows video game voice acting (or quality anime) will.
That's only if you look at purely negative stuff. But the reality is that the large majority of the player reports and reviews have been positive to enthusiastic about their ingame experiences.
You make it sound as if all MMO gamers have grown bored of traditional themepark gameplay, but the stark reality is that millions upon millions of MMO gamers are playing exactly that kind of MMO's, and have been doing so for years. You might be bored of it, some other MMO gamers too, but that doesn't make it 'people', so start to realise if you find something this or that, that not everyone has the same taste as you in their gaming fun.
In fact, their lighting techniques are pretty complex and elaborate, as their presentations on the Game Developers Conference showed.
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
All your opinion.
The original Guild Wars was the worst attempt at an mmo I have ever attempted to play. Bioware has yet to release a game where I felt I wasted my money.
Bioware has a better and bigger reputation than Arenanet. Until Guild Wars 2 releases that won't change.
TOR has gotten plenty of great reviews, that you have obviously chosen to ignore.
You love Guild Wars 2 and are upset because SWTOR is overshadowing it. So much so that you run to the SWTOR forum to attack. Don't you think your taking this too personal?
Come on Maverick, I think we all know that "people" really means "those who share my opinion, which is obviously everyone."
At least on MMORPG.com it does
Wish they got mark hamill to do some of the voicing. He's still probably my favorite joker. It would have also been thematically appropriate.
Doesn't look any worse then this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx0QnKgQ1CI&feature=related
i guess i'm not sure what you really look to get out of the video. its 25min of up to level 3 not much going on there.
This thread has gotten pretty ridiculous. We went from the OPs opinion that the video looked boring to tossing insults towards people because they like different things. How did GW2 get involved? I'll check out both games, but seriously GW2 isn't even on my radar.
Maybe we all deserve a form instead of an open box to type in. Obviously we can't handle civil discussion.
Can we try using this format for the debate:
I think it looks boring because OR I think it looks exciting because
Reason 1
example
Reason 2
example
Reason 3
example
and refrain from
you are an idiot because you like
I am all-knowing because
insult 1
You are a moron because
insult 2
self - aggrandizing statement 1
is ridiculous because
Strawman
something I'm repeating because someone else said it
Is this possible?
How about those who are in favor of this type of format, example 1, simply ignore posts that are similar to example 2?
Edit: and how about refraining from coloring text? No one's opinion is any more important than anyone elses; making your own stand out is kind of self-inflating.
Life isn't as fun without a little bit of drama.
Tearing apart forum trolls with my own brand of sharp tongue trolling is a fun way to pass the time waiting for this stupid hard drive to finish formatting (at work) and until my 2:30 meeting...
Besides, I have the advantage.
I know I am right like 90% of the time because I'm a genius.
It's just a fact.
Even when I'm not right, I'm still less wrong then most people even when they are mostly right.
well, in the end, what is boring and exciting are completely subjective, its impossible to prove one or the other. I find EvE terribly boring, but alot of people really enjoy it. I enjoyed wow for a very long time, many others did not.
What bioware or any company does and how they make their game merely changes the proportions of different people who would find it interesting (hell some people enjoyed Too Human /shudder). The trick and the challenge is to optimize for the type of person who is a member of the group that has the largest population of potential and willing players.
Currently Playing: World of Warcraft