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It means you are making too much sense for the internet to handle. It's a good thing.
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Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
+1. LOL
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
There are those who have a fetish for getting slapped in the face who do not get that in swtor either. It's a big slap in the face to them. But they actually kind of like it.
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https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
Use the democratic process. Write to your senator and demand that gays be allowed in Star Wars.
What? What has that to do with anything I wrote? I made a statement about something in the game, and explained it because some people dont get it, or if they just dont care about it, then whatever. The percentages or profit calculations or talks about minority groups and all that has nothing to do with the fact that this game has less content for gays, just as it would have less content for the straight people if the romancing options were only gay.
I really dont care if this game has romancing with NPC's at all or no, and to be honest, romancing at all is pretty much useless from a financial standpoint, it's a nice feature for (non gay) roleplayers, but I doubt there's many people who will buy this game based on that, maybe a couple, and right now a couple of gays will not buy it because of the romancing stuff so yeah, +-0?
Wait can you also add bondage lovers that like to dress as babies as well to that petition pls, I may alt that.
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Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
Better pray your senator is not Jar Jar Binks though.. you might be the indrect cause of the creation of a cloned gay army.
stunning fashion will usher through the galaxy, in the name of good taste and stunning hot pants.
How can I judge? It's role playing!!!
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https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
I've seen some of the outfits. I don't think you have to worry.
tier 1 nappies with particle effects around the safety pin, awsome.
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Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
.......what? You're kidding right?
How is a senator supposed to do anything about what a video game company chooses to not include in their game? I think any senator that even opened the letter would die laughing in his chair.
Write Bioware or Lucas Arts. Or both.
Gays in Star Wars aren't "iconic" nor "Star Warsy" enough to render them viable options in game.
Two things:
1) Dragon Age, a Bioware game series, had gay romance. There's no way that the company is biased against gay romance based on the history of their stories.
2) If you're going to take a stand on the intentional limitations of this game, you're going to be busy, I'm sure, taking a stand on all forms of entertainment that make that same choice. Movies, TV shows, Comic Books, Commercials, Novels, and any form of interactive media, all of which you'll find have intentionally made their romances between men and women. After all, they had the option to make it all about a same sex relationship, but they didn't, right? I don't envy how quickly your schedule book is going to fill up with protests.
So while I respect where a lot of you are coming from, you really need to get over it and leave Britney alone...
Shit, I meant Bioware.
heehee.... well i thought the comic was funny. but seriously, you can always pick and choose the people you hang out with, and if you don't like anyone else, well that's what group/guild channels and the ignore functions are for. and the setting of the comic could just as easily have been any old forum. it's the internet that does it to them, not mmos.
Can you take potions to boost your romance powers in the game?
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Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
I'll lay my opinion flat out here, I agree with the human nature of this, what El originally posted I can understand somewhat, he's sick of being excluded which i'm sure he deals with a lot. I think it's sad there are people who are against things like this.
I think it's sad people have to hide who they are, that does piss me off. Now when it comes to things like this being in a videogame, I think that's a decision best left to the developer. That basically goes with anything they want to add or don't want to. It's their vision.
Now do I think politcal or ideological reasoning is behind them not adding this feature? No I honestly don't. I think it's more a matter of the IP and that they felt it was something they could ignore given the IP. For two reasons, it not being an important factor in Star Wars, B it not being within the scope they were aiming for (budget). I don't think much more than these two lines of reasoning were behind making the decision. Unless of course they felt it wasn't something that would be handled well by Immature players.
To SB fans, please stop making our demographic look bad.Stop invading threads that have nothing to do with sandboxes.
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It . . . was . . . a . . . JOKE!
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
medicine or drugs?
they are the same damn thing.
I play games just like you
ROFL I thought they announced som ething like one toon per account or that they were doing away with PvP with a post like this. If this post is truely about the same sex relations thing lemme sum this up for you simply...
This was produced at Bioware Austin... TEXAS aka bible beater capitol of the country. If they had included same sex relations then an army of toofless hillbillys woulda burned down the buildings and hung the staff.
Try rolling as your opposite sex, make your charactor as butch/feminine as possible, and pretend to your hearts content.
As someone who can get pretty caught up in hobbies I understand where Eli is coming from. I understand the desire and need to vent and express the frustration at feeling ignored or betrayed. But it shouldn't be a surprise and we shouldn't take it too hard that SW:TOR went the way it did with this decision.
I'm not straight, I expected them to keep up with their habit of including SGR options for gay gamers and was looking forward to seeing if I liked the stories the left for us to explore in that regard. I was disappointed when that didn't happen, but it's really their loss, not ours.
They spent some arbitrary amount of money crafting and designing and voicing all of the story for opposite-gender relationships which will be available in the game. A lot of people will appreciate it. I won't. They spent time and effort on something I have no interest in exploring and that means it was less useful than something that everyone would have enjoyed. I don't necessarily think that there should be no sexual content in the games, but I don't think there must be either. Maybe the tell a really good straight romance story. Good.
When I think back on their other games, Bioware's romantic relationships were actually pretty boring, straight or otherwise. I mean, it was cool at first that games were including those stories, especially with the queer community in mind on occasion. But for every companion that you could become intimate with, I found them to be less interesting as a character, and sometimes because of it. Maybe that's just because I'd rather not hook up with my slightly unstable and supremely traumatized mercenary companions/coworkers.
Bioware writes a pretty good epic adventure, and I'm looking forward to this game. I don't really think that they could write a relationship or even a gay character that I would feel does justice to the relationships I've had in life, so why demand a pale imitation? Maybe they will write something good in for an expansion, maybe not. What I want from this game is good gameplay and good story, I don't want a harlequin romance star wars experience. Seriously go back and look, the previous relationships they have constructed just aren't worth the work and anger, and their loss is not worth mourning.
TL;DR: Bioware's romance stories aren't worth the cost of their games. Let's buy them for what's good in them or ignore them for what's bad in them, and not do either for what's not in the game at all.
It's pretty obvious people aren't really reading anything in context.
One of my complaints says that: because BW has very anti-discriminatory dev posts and they have had same gendered romance in previous games, it begs to question why it was intentionally not included in this game (point one seems to I don't know, pretend I never said that).
I'm going to summarize a post in the SWTOR forums I made:
"I can think of a lot of reasons that are non discriminatory why BioWare doesn't include same gendered romance: budget, time, other projects, workload, conventions, etc.
I can think of a lot of reasons that are discriminatory why BioWare doesn't include same gendered romance: investment risk, profit risk (by offending prejudicial customers and critics), rating issues, etc.
The fact is because of their anti discriminatory policies and their precedent of same gendered romance in other games, I can *interpret* the most likely reason they don't offer it in this game are because of the discriminatory reasons. If you can't understand that and consider it extremely reasonable, I don't know how to help you see the cause more clearly. The truth is, I understand their business decision. I also think it's wrong and profit-oriented"
That summarizes my opinion and my resoning.
And I don't even know where to begin commenting on how 2 offers no argument, no reasoning, nothing directly associated with my post. It just exemplifies people's willingness to post unconstructive and indirect things for the sake of arguing. Good luck with that.
The thing is no one is saying they dont want gay players. They just dont have the option of gay romance in game at this time.
I think people need to remember its at this time bioware has stated it may be added in the future after launch.
Its a video game with companion character romance and its the only one who even does that. I have pointed out and i will again even if they have gay option the odds u make all the right choices to actually romance that character are probably no where near 100 pct probably less then 50 pct
Im willing to bet it was just a story decision and had nothing to do with biowares veiws on gays or anything like that. Its not a political statement.
U can still roleplay a gay relationship or character in game with other players if u want. So i dont see the issue.
Ill admit im not gay but this is getting way out of hand. Its really a great show of how this political correct country we live in and give everyone a trophy for playing world makes people feel entitled to have whatever they want in there video games.
Its ridiculous. Dont play tor if u dont want to fine but come on this is nto that big a deal to anyone who isnt over sensitive.
Its a video game with video game choices this isnt real life and despite what bioware has done in past with gay companion characters maybe they just didnt think any of the ones they created for tor at launch are gay. Its not a knock on gay people or the unvierse at large.l
Its just the companion characters which number like 40 for the whole game in general. Lets face it heterosexuals outnumber homesexuals by a huge margin in real life. Given everone an equal number of romance while maybe politically correct may not have been where they wanted to go with story at the start.
Thats what no ones geting here they forget this game has story implications and if the characters they created as companions arent gay then u cant have gay romance with them
Look, it is weak that there are no same sex options, but FFS, no one is saying "we don't want you in our game".
Why not just play and enjoy the aspects of the game that ARE there??
I mean, I don't avoid games just because they don't allow my character to worship Satan. I don't think to myself "they don't want my kind". I just realise that it's not important to the game play, and enjoy the game.
Its their game and they have the right to include or NOT to include gay romance. They chose not to include gay romance. Whats the big deal? What? Every damn thing has to have gay stuff in it nowadays?
They chose not to include gay romance, like they chose not to include jewish or muslim people or people with cancer and so on and so forth. I really do not see the reason why gay people should be catered to. You are minority. Thats the fact. Why is Obama the president? Because the majority voted for him. Do we have to please minorities and have both McCain and Obama as presidents, because minorities feel "offended"? According to gay people (on this forum) YES. Thats just bullshit.
I dont want gay romance in my game. It just looks disgusting to me. So why should my views be ignored? Why should they add gay romance to the game and please gay people, but not people like me? How are you any better than I am? I know Im not better than gay people, we all are on equal ground in this respect, but I belong to the majority and thats just how democracy works. You cater to the majority.
Legit homophobia.