Even though I remember the race from WC3, I think if the MOP expansion came after BC, it would of been fine. This really isn't going to bring me back to WOW, I think after 5 1/2 yrs, I really am done with it. The pet battle system was the biggest turn off for me.
It's funny the games questing is very casual, and cata heroic dungeons do offer some challange...it's until you get into raiding, that's when it's hardcore. TOR for me changes that easily with different Z@#% types. I don't like my MMO's too easy and then really hard, I like it a bit medium with a hard kick. LOL @ all the people I saw getting owned from questing in TOR was hilarious.
I'm going to be right at home playing SWTOR, it was fantastic during my beta run and I know this series will be a great adventure. Even with GW2 on my radar as well, I'm still more excited about TOR for any upcoming MMO.
Blizzard you still sold me on the D3 CE (pre-ordered) and SC HoS, you know you still enjoy my money. You just haven't sold me to come back to WOW.
Wildstar (2013) & Elder Scroll Online (2013)
Playing: Diablo 3, WOW, Far Cry 3 & X-Com.
Enjoyed: WOW 5 1/2 yrs, LOTRO 3yrs, GW 1/2yr, DFO 1yr, EVE Online 3yrs, and Huxley (Beta).
Failed to impress: GW2 3months, Tera Online 6 months (best combat system in any MMO I've played) STO 1/4yr, Aion 1/2yr, AoC 1yr, CO, Fallen Earth, DDO, EQ2 1/2yr, WAR 1/2yr, Lineage 2 and FF XI 1/2yr, FF XIV.
i like how sw: tor fanboies think they have some hell of a mmorpg comeing up
but hinking this will kill wow or w/e is a joke..i mean rly who rly cares at this point..but imo i think they "wow" will get alot more subs or even balance out the people leaveing wow with the hoards of incomeing kiddies joining that they will certainly promote to
wow has been going for sooo long and yet when someone asks or talks about the best mmo's out there..wow is the furthest on my mind nor any theampark for that matter
Even though I remember the race from WC3, I think if the MOP expansion came after BC, it would of been fine. This really isn't going to bring me back to WOW, I think after 5 1/2 yrs, I really am done with it. The pet battle system was the biggest turn off for me.
It's funny the games questing is very casual, and cata heroic dungeons do offer some challange...it's until you get into raiding, that's when it's hardcore. TOR for me changes that easily with different Z@#% types. I don't like my MMO's too easy and then really hard, I like it a bit medium with a hard kick. LOL @ all the people I saw getting owned from questing in TOR was hilarious.
I'm going to be right at home playing SWTOR, it was fantastic during my beta run and I know this series will be a great adventure. Even with GW2 on my radar as well, I'm still more excited about TOR for any upcoming MMO.
Blizzard you still sold me on the D3 CE (pre-ordered) and SC HoS, you know you still enjoy my money. You just haven't sold me to come back to WOW.
Wildstar (2013) & Elder Scroll Online (2013)
Playing: Diablo 3, WOW, Far Cry 3 & X-Com.
Enjoyed: WOW 5 1/2 yrs, LOTRO 3yrs, GW 1/2yr, DFO 1yr, EVE Online 3yrs, and Huxley (Beta).
Failed to impress: GW2 3months, Tera Online 6 months (best combat system in any MMO I've played) STO 1/4yr, Aion 1/2yr, AoC 1yr, CO, Fallen Earth, DDO, EQ2 1/2yr, WAR 1/2yr, Lineage 2 and FF XI 1/2yr, FF XIV.
I really don't think this will have the effect people seem to be assuming. I mean many games have released over the last few years, if games can't pull people away from WOW I don't see why an addition to the game would, it's not like people have to buy or play the expac and new race.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
The new game would have to be new in more ways than just story and skin. It would have to be like WoW was to all other games of it's era. Right now, there isn't much reason for vet WoW players to drop WoW for ToR, since it offers nearly the same thing (from the info we have).
I suspect that loads of people will buy and play this game for 6-8 months and then make the decision to stop playing one or the other. As stated before, ToR doesn't have the potential to take even a quarter of the subs from WoW unless the actual gameplay is 10x more compelling than we are being led to believe.
Yes, I believe ToR will be a great game but Rift is also a great game. RIFT would have been 20x more successful if WoW wasn't around. There simply wasn't enough of a difference between RIFT and WoW to draw people from WoW.
It's pretty much the same thing when comparing Eve Online to Perpetuum. Perpetuum is essentially an Eve Lite.
The threads like this are started by ignorant people who don't know anything more than their own emotional sways instead of using logic to form opinions.
Competition normally makes for better products. So when WOW and SWTOR compete we should get a better MMO right? Well not if both games are total turkeys to start with. Both are utterly unoriginal interms of game play and style, they have the same old shitty EQ style combat, same old quest and level system (yawn).
So normally competition makes for better products but not in this case.
Competition normally makes for better products. So when WOW and SWTOR compete we should get a better MMO right? Well not if both games are total turkeys to start with. Both are utterly unoriginal interms of game play and style, they have the same old shitty EQ style combat, same old quest and level system (yawn).
So normally competition makes for better products but not in this case.
Such a shame.
Neither are like EQ combat, AC2 ? Maybe, EQ? No.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
See and thats whats wrong with the so called "new age of MMOGs (most of them aren't RPGS anymore):
Why do people care so much about another game? Wow has been cursed since Chilton, the weasel Ghostcrawler and Activision took over everyone who played UO knew this.
Please don't use casual = prefering easymode, braindead gameplay. The ones claiming they're casual are just a bunch of lazy former FPS kids wanting everything on a silver table. Since Blizzards new owner turns everything into crap for the lowest of the lowest comon denominator this had to be expected.
People who are fed up with the WoW game mechanics won't massively float over to ToR simple for the fact that its basically the same just even more linear with VO. Instead we'll see more competition and smaller communities again which is a great thing and heres hoping everyone will get and enjoy the perfect game for his playstyle.
Finally we can put the term "WoW killer" to bed everyone knew its gonna be only from inside and Ghostcrawler has done a heck of a job at that hes even so good I will never ever consider a blizzard game again till they're partnered with Activision and guys like Bashiok, Ghostcrawler, Chilton or Zaryhm are having something to say there.
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play." "Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
Being an active subsciber of WoW since it was released this is the first time the expansion news left a bad taste in my mouth. Now this is not for the pandas or the monk class or the asian themed areas. even though thats not my favorite. for me its the lack of what is offered.
Let me explain my view on this, Blizzard makes alot of money from WoW subscriptions and client sells. So basically every year they make enough money to produce an entire new game. So one would figure that every expansion that comes out would be bigger and better. But since cata this has not happened.
5 more levels?? in cata average players blew through the pve contant in no more then a week and a half. starting a new toon you would by pass many zones, though some of the new quests in the old world were done very well but no point since you out lvled many of them.
What about those who like alts, there are already 10 classes and 10 character slots per server. are they going to add a new character slot. Im hoping but i doubt it
What about making heirlooms truely bind on account and can be used on any server without haveing to spend money on character transfers.
I remember before cata blizz said they were going to revamp fishing to make it more fun, and that never happened.
And sadly, I am now in the beleif that the next WoW killer will be from Blizzard. Just didnt expect it to be WoW itself.
So heres hoping that over the next few months Blizz will actually offer more then less
i like how sw: tor fanboies think they have some hell of a mmorpg comeing up
but hinking this will kill wow or w/e is a joke..i mean rly who rly cares at this point..but imo i think they "wow" will get alot more subs or even balance out the people leaveing wow with the hoards of incomeing kiddies joining that they will certainly promote to
wow has been going for sooo long and yet when someone asks or talks about the best mmo's out there..wow is the furthest on my mind nor any theampark for that matter
Its not that Star Wars will kill WoW its Blizzard that have just killed WoW . If you seriously think WoW will get a lot more subs because of this expansion you are pretty delusional .
The problem is that it wont appeal to thier mature players because it reinforces the idea that the game is becomeing increasingly aimed at a younger demographic and it wont appeal to the 12 year olds that people are always going on about because they will feel Kung Fu Pandas and Pokemon are even too young for them and aimed at even younger children . I now know of 5 people from my former guild that have left over this and a lot more are extremly unhappy about it .
Warcraft will survive this of course but they have just alienated a huge part of thier player base just at a time a new polished game from a highly respected development is released and not to mention its the biggest franchise ever . Its pretty obvious whats about to happen as long a StarWars is as good as the beta reviews make it out to be .
Its not that Star Wars will kill WoW its Blizzard that have just killed WoW . If you seriously think WoW will get a lot more subs because of this expansion you are pretty delusional .
The problem is that it wont appeal to thier mature players because it reinforces the idea that the game is becomeing increasingly aimed at a younger demographic and it wont appeal to the 12 year olds that people are always going on about because they will feel Kung Fu Pandas and Pokemon are even too young for them and aimed at even younger children . I now know of 5 people from my former guild that have left over this and a lot more are extremly unhappy about it .
Warcraft will survive this of course but they have just alienated a huge part of thier player base just at a time a new polished game from a highly respected development is released and not to mention its the biggest franchise ever . Its pretty obvious whats about to happen as long a StarWars is as good as the beta reviews make it out to be .
We are talking about a game where the following is a playable race.
Talking cow, Space goat (with tentacles!), Werewolf, 2 different elf races.
How is a talking Panda gonna be different?
WoW always had that 'Blizzard' humor and I don't think that's changing anytime soon.
What was more interesting was the total evasive 'Where were the multiple Cata raid tier' questions. Either the team was pulled to Titan or MoP. I think it was MoP since the CEO of Blizz is on record of saying 'we want faster expansions', 'key to retaining our sub numbers is a quicker content schedule' etc.
Gdemami - Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.
While I will switch to tor when it comes out, I doubt they will be able to achieve the polish, the sophistication, and the skill cap that WoW has. Just like i've done with every mmo released after 2005 - I expect myself to wind up with WoW again.
But hell, prove me wrong
WoW is amazing but one can only take so much for so long...
Loads of players have wanted Pandarens to be playable since vanilla. I suspect this will be a positive thing for the game overall.
This is why they are suprised by this, not knowing any history behind Panderen.
Pandaren popularity grew from Warcraft 3 Expac and was long rumored to be the next race in BC.
Amazes me how some folks can be such dumbasses.
I remember when Panderans were an April Fools joke.
They were a joke then, they are still a joke now. WoW has also now been lowered to their level as a joke.
Claiming ignorance is a stupid defence, I'm sure there are many, many people who know the history behind Pandarans, like me, who still think they are stupid, sad, and childish.
This is just the last nail in the coffin for WoW and it will be TOR standing over the rotting corpse. Just look at how all you WoW fans feel the need to come into the TOR forum, a forum you've never been to before to defend WoW as much as you possibly can. TOR has you shaking in your boots, TOR will murder your favourite game and the Kung Fu Panda expansion will help.
You all know TOR is going to blow WoW out of the water. You hear your friends, family, and co-workers talking about it, you see the scads and scads of positive previews on the web, you see the rampant forum activity while WoW's forums lie empty, you hear the stories of the sheer number of pre-orders for TOR (estimated at over 3 million now.) You log into WoW and feel the cold wind of death blow across that game, and you know, deep inside your heart, that the source of that wind is Star Wars: The Old Republic.
Panda-men are childish, but Cow-men (Tauren) are not?
*boggle*
This expansion is not out of place at all. And the fact is it has more content than previous expansions.
And for me personally as a 37 year old man, I love the hell out of WoW's light-hearted approach.
Well there minotaurs in ancient mythology I don't seam to remember Pandas in it though.
( also the Worgen resemble were wolves )
Big difference.
Agreed.
Not sure why people keep bringing up "Cow-men/Tauren". Minotaurs derive from Greek Mythology and they are not exactly "childish".
I think some will defend anything (and I mean anything) that Blizzy doles out. We actually have people in this very thread defending the introduction of panda bears as a playable race proclaiming how they were in the lore back in the RTS classic WC3 (like that's supposed to be some sort of justification, lmao).
Yup, it's confirmed. Doesn't matter what they throw in their game we will always have those that will be there to protect everything and anything that this company produces. Sounds like a fucking religion to me.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
Loads of players have wanted Pandarens to be playable since vanilla. I suspect this will be a positive thing for the game overall.
This is why they are suprised by this, not knowing any history behind Panderen.
Pandaren popularity grew from Warcraft 3 Expac and was long rumored to be the next race in BC.
Amazes me how some folks can be such dumbasses.
I remember when Panderans were an April Fools joke.
They were a joke then, they are still a joke now. WoW has also now been lowered to their level as a joke.
Claiming ignorance is a stupid defence, I'm sure there are many, many people who know the history behind Pandarans, like me, who still think they are stupid, sad, and childish.
This is just the last nail in the coffin for WoW and it will be TOR standing over the rotting corpse. Just look at how all you WoW fans feel the need to come into the TOR forum, a forum you've never been to before to defend WoW as much as you possibly can. TOR has you shaking in your boots, TOR will murder your favourite game and the Kung Fu Panda expansion will help.
You all know TOR is going to blow WoW out of the water. You hear your friends, family, and co-workers talking about it, you see the scads and scads of positive previews on the web, you see the rampant forum activity while WoW's forums lie empty, you hear the stories of the sheer number of pre-orders for TOR (estimated at over 3 million now.) You log into WoW and feel the cold wind of death blow across that game, and you know, deep inside your heart, that the source of that wind is Star Wars: The Old Republic.
And the many who have and still want Panderans as playible race since Vanilla.
Of course there are features of any game that people can say is stupid, sad, or childish, but you can't ingore the fact there are many who have wanted this.
Something that was suppose to be a fucking JOKE!
Even Blizzard was shock by the overwhelming reponse of Warcraft fans, so in turn they added them into the Lore.
They weren't thinking hey you know guys Xondar123 think's its stupid, sad, and chikdish lets not make it anymore.
I just watched the video for the new WoW expansion...and it's seriously lame.
Burning Crusade was awesome because there was a great evil to destroy.
Wrath of the Lich King was awesome because there was an even greater evil to destroy.
Cataclysm, same thing, the world is ripped apart a huge pissed-off dragon is randomly killing people. Good stuff
Pandaria we get to sit around in monkville and let our pets fight each other...woohoo. There is no great evil, there is no impossible challenge to overcome. So why the hell would I play it? I left that game shortly after Cataclysm, but I can say the last place you would ever find my orc warrior is in Pandaria hanging out with Jack Black.
A lot of people are saying they have been wanting to see this race in the game for a while; but what race have they NOT wanted to see honestly? They say they were around before Kung-Fu Panda, but the problem is it's HORRIBLE timing. The first thing everyone thinks about when they see a Pandaran is Kung-Fu Panda, whether you don't want to or not, you will because it's been in popular culture lately.
New talent changes...that happens in every patch. New level cap...who cares. Nothing interesting in this expansion thus far. I think it's total crap for Blizzard, and even though I don't play WoW anymore, I'm disappointed at Blizzard. But who knows, this expansion could be eluding to the all mighty "Titan" they've mentioned so who knows.
Anyone still playing wow needs their head checked. how can you play the same game for so long without thinking to yourself "i've done this before".
Aaaaaand, a lot of folks will be thinking the same thing when they try SW:TOR.
There won't be any mass exodus from WoW to SW:TOR like so many of you think. Not everyone is a Star Wars fan, and not everyone enjoys the sci-fi setting.
People still playing WoW are comfortable there; they feel safe; they feel secure.
If I had to put money on it, I'd bet a good majority of those still playing WoW are going to hang around until Titan.
Blizzard has a massive built-in fanbase. They will play just about anything Blizzard shovels out to them.
That's true, but a lot of people also don't like Warcraft and the medieval setting. I know I never played the old Warcraft games, and it took me a long time to decide to play Warcraft, but I did like it and enjoyed it. I quit because it was too much work building yourself up to a top raiding guild, and pvp at that. I have always liked sci-fi games and I did quit WoW a few times and go play other games like Tabula Rasa. If it's a good game, word will get out and people will play it.
Panda-men are childish, but Cow-men (Tauren) are not?
*boggle*
This expansion is not out of place at all. And the fact is it has more content than previous expansions.
And for me personally as a 37 year old man, I love the hell out of WoW's light-hearted approach.
Well there minotaurs in ancient mythology I don't seam to remember Pandas in it though.
( also the Worgen resemble were wolves )
Big difference.
Agreed.
Not sure why people keep bringing up "Cow-men/Tauren". Minotaurs derive from Greek Mythology and they are not exactly "childish".
I think some will defend anything (and I mean anything) that Blizzy doles out. We actually have people in this very thread defending the introduction of panda bears as a playable race proclaiming how they were in the lore back in the RTS classic WC3 (like that's supposed to be some sort of justification, lmao).
Yup, it's confirmed. Doesn't matter what they throw in their game we will always have those that will be there to protect everything and anything that this company produces. Sounds like a fucking religion to me.
There are lots of things in ancient lore that looks childesh for example cutsey gnomes and hobbits for another example even though not directly related to WOW. But does that make LOTRO childish? it is a matter of perception and taste. You just took one example to make your point and ignored the rest.
It has nothign to do with religion but you do lack a very basic understanding that while some will hate Pandarians other will love it. Welcome to real life where tastes differ.
True words were never spoken; the players will kill it. Which I believe will happen, eventually, who knows when; but it will.
The thing is now, people are getting tired of playing that game, and growing out of it. WoW raised the bar and a lot of shit games came out after it, trying to repeat it's success. But now, years later, we have a game company doing the EXACT thing Blizzard did. They have a huge following (BIoware is bar far one of the best RPG game developers in existence beside Square), and they are making their first MMO, and they aren't going to screw it up because LA is involved for one. SWTOR is a different game than WoW, it's more in line with what an MMORPG should be: a game within a game within a game. MMO's have evolved and both SWTOR and The Secret World will be testaments of that. WoW is falling behind in terms of innovation.
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Even though I remember the race from WC3, I think if the MOP expansion came after BC, it would of been fine. This really isn't going to bring me back to WOW, I think after 5 1/2 yrs, I really am done with it. The pet battle system was the biggest turn off for me.
It's funny the games questing is very casual, and cata heroic dungeons do offer some challange...it's until you get into raiding, that's when it's hardcore. TOR for me changes that easily with different Z@#% types. I don't like my MMO's too easy and then really hard, I like it a bit medium with a hard kick. LOL @ all the people I saw getting owned from questing in TOR was hilarious.
I'm going to be right at home playing SWTOR, it was fantastic during my beta run and I know this series will be a great adventure. Even with GW2 on my radar as well, I'm still more excited about TOR for any upcoming MMO.
Blizzard you still sold me on the D3 CE (pre-ordered) and SC HoS, you know you still enjoy my money. You just haven't sold me to come back to WOW.
Wildstar (2013) & Elder Scroll Online (2013)
Playing: Diablo 3, WOW, Far Cry 3 & X-Com.
Enjoyed: WOW 5 1/2 yrs, LOTRO 3yrs, GW 1/2yr, DFO 1yr, EVE Online 3yrs, and Huxley (Beta).
Failed to impress: GW2 3months, Tera Online 6 months (best combat system in any MMO I've played) STO 1/4yr, Aion 1/2yr, AoC 1yr, CO, Fallen Earth, DDO, EQ2 1/2yr, WAR 1/2yr, Lineage 2 and FF XI 1/2yr, FF XIV.
i like how sw: tor fanboies think they have some hell of a mmorpg comeing up
but hinking this will kill wow or w/e is a joke..i mean rly who rly cares at this point..but imo i think they "wow" will get alot more subs or even balance out the people leaveing wow with the hoards of incomeing kiddies joining that they will certainly promote to
wow has been going for sooo long and yet when someone asks or talks about the best mmo's out there..wow is the furthest on my mind nor any theampark for that matter
Panda-men are childish, but Cow-men (Tauren) are not?
*boggle*
This expansion is not out of place at all. And the fact is it has more content than previous expansions.
And for me personally as a 37 year old man, I love the hell out of WoW's light-hearted approach.
Wildstar (2013) & Elder Scroll Online (2013)
Playing: Diablo 3, WOW, Far Cry 3 & X-Com.
Enjoyed: WOW 5 1/2 yrs, LOTRO 3yrs, GW 1/2yr, DFO 1yr, EVE Online 3yrs, and Huxley (Beta).
Failed to impress: GW2 3months, Tera Online 6 months (best combat system in any MMO I've played) STO 1/4yr, Aion 1/2yr, AoC 1yr, CO, Fallen Earth, DDO, EQ2 1/2yr, WAR 1/2yr, Lineage 2 and FF XI 1/2yr, FF XIV.
I really don't think this will have the effect people seem to be assuming. I mean many games have released over the last few years, if games can't pull people away from WOW I don't see why an addition to the game would, it's not like people have to buy or play the expac and new race.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
The new game would have to be new in more ways than just story and skin. It would have to be like WoW was to all other games of it's era. Right now, there isn't much reason for vet WoW players to drop WoW for ToR, since it offers nearly the same thing (from the info we have).
I suspect that loads of people will buy and play this game for 6-8 months and then make the decision to stop playing one or the other. As stated before, ToR doesn't have the potential to take even a quarter of the subs from WoW unless the actual gameplay is 10x more compelling than we are being led to believe.
Yes, I believe ToR will be a great game but Rift is also a great game. RIFT would have been 20x more successful if WoW wasn't around. There simply wasn't enough of a difference between RIFT and WoW to draw people from WoW.
It's pretty much the same thing when comparing Eve Online to Perpetuum. Perpetuum is essentially an Eve Lite.
The threads like this are started by ignorant people who don't know anything more than their own emotional sways instead of using logic to form opinions.
Competition normally makes for better products. So when WOW and SWTOR compete we should get a better MMO right? Well not if both games are total turkeys to start with. Both are utterly unoriginal interms of game play and style, they have the same old shitty EQ style combat, same old quest and level system (yawn).
So normally competition makes for better products but not in this case.
Such a shame.
Neither are like EQ combat, AC2 ? Maybe, EQ? No.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
See and thats whats wrong with the so called "new age of MMOGs (most of them aren't RPGS anymore):
Why do people care so much about another game? Wow has been cursed since Chilton, the weasel Ghostcrawler and Activision took over everyone who played UO knew this.
Please don't use casual = prefering easymode, braindead gameplay. The ones claiming they're casual are just a bunch of lazy former FPS kids wanting everything on a silver table. Since Blizzards new owner turns everything into crap for the lowest of the lowest comon denominator this had to be expected.
People who are fed up with the WoW game mechanics won't massively float over to ToR simple for the fact that its basically the same just even more linear with VO. Instead we'll see more competition and smaller communities again which is a great thing and heres hoping everyone will get and enjoy the perfect game for his playstyle.
Finally we can put the term "WoW killer" to bed everyone knew its gonna be only from inside and Ghostcrawler has done a heck of a job at that hes even so good I will never ever consider a blizzard game again till they're partnered with Activision and guys like Bashiok, Ghostcrawler, Chilton or Zaryhm are having something to say there.
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play."
"Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
Being an active subsciber of WoW since it was released this is the first time the expansion news left a bad taste in my mouth. Now this is not for the pandas or the monk class or the asian themed areas. even though thats not my favorite. for me its the lack of what is offered.
Let me explain my view on this, Blizzard makes alot of money from WoW subscriptions and client sells. So basically every year they make enough money to produce an entire new game. So one would figure that every expansion that comes out would be bigger and better. But since cata this has not happened.
5 more levels?? in cata average players blew through the pve contant in no more then a week and a half. starting a new toon you would by pass many zones, though some of the new quests in the old world were done very well but no point since you out lvled many of them.
What about those who like alts, there are already 10 classes and 10 character slots per server. are they going to add a new character slot. Im hoping but i doubt it
What about making heirlooms truely bind on account and can be used on any server without haveing to spend money on character transfers.
I remember before cata blizz said they were going to revamp fishing to make it more fun, and that never happened.
And sadly, I am now in the beleif that the next WoW killer will be from Blizzard. Just didnt expect it to be WoW itself.
So heres hoping that over the next few months Blizz will actually offer more then less
Well there minotaurs in ancient mythology I don't seam to remember Pandas in it though.
( also the Worgen resemble were wolves )
Big difference.
Its not that Star Wars will kill WoW its Blizzard that have just killed WoW . If you seriously think WoW will get a lot more subs because of this expansion you are pretty delusional .
The problem is that it wont appeal to thier mature players because it reinforces the idea that the game is becomeing increasingly aimed at a younger demographic and it wont appeal to the 12 year olds that people are always going on about because they will feel Kung Fu Pandas and Pokemon are even too young for them and aimed at even younger children . I now know of 5 people from my former guild that have left over this and a lot more are extremly unhappy about it .
Warcraft will survive this of course but they have just alienated a huge part of thier player base just at a time a new polished game from a highly respected development is released and not to mention its the biggest franchise ever . Its pretty obvious whats about to happen as long a StarWars is as good as the beta reviews make it out to be .
We are talking about a game where the following is a playable race.
Talking cow, Space goat (with tentacles!), Werewolf, 2 different elf races.
How is a talking Panda gonna be different?
WoW always had that 'Blizzard' humor and I don't think that's changing anytime soon.
What was more interesting was the total evasive 'Where were the multiple Cata raid tier' questions. Either the team was pulled to Titan or MoP. I think it was MoP since the CEO of Blizz is on record of saying 'we want faster expansions', 'key to retaining our sub numbers is a quicker content schedule' etc.
Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.
While I will switch to tor when it comes out, I doubt they will be able to achieve the polish, the sophistication, and the skill cap that WoW has. Just like i've done with every mmo released after 2005 - I expect myself to wind up with WoW again.
But hell, prove me wrong
WoW is amazing but one can only take so much for so long...
I remember when Panderans were an April Fools joke.
They were a joke then, they are still a joke now. WoW has also now been lowered to their level as a joke.
Claiming ignorance is a stupid defence, I'm sure there are many, many people who know the history behind Pandarans, like me, who still think they are stupid, sad, and childish.
This is just the last nail in the coffin for WoW and it will be TOR standing over the rotting corpse. Just look at how all you WoW fans feel the need to come into the TOR forum, a forum you've never been to before to defend WoW as much as you possibly can. TOR has you shaking in your boots, TOR will murder your favourite game and the Kung Fu Panda expansion will help.
You all know TOR is going to blow WoW out of the water. You hear your friends, family, and co-workers talking about it, you see the scads and scads of positive previews on the web, you see the rampant forum activity while WoW's forums lie empty, you hear the stories of the sheer number of pre-orders for TOR (estimated at over 3 million now.) You log into WoW and feel the cold wind of death blow across that game, and you know, deep inside your heart, that the source of that wind is Star Wars: The Old Republic.
Agreed.
Not sure why people keep bringing up "Cow-men/Tauren". Minotaurs derive from Greek Mythology and they are not exactly "childish".
I think some will defend anything (and I mean anything) that Blizzy doles out. We actually have people in this very thread defending the introduction of panda bears as a playable race proclaiming how they were in the lore back in the RTS classic WC3 (like that's supposed to be some sort of justification, lmao).
Yup, it's confirmed. Doesn't matter what they throw in their game we will always have those that will be there to protect everything and anything that this company produces. Sounds like a fucking religion to me.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
What I think is downright hilarious is how can someone claim to be "elite" or "hardcore" when this expansion comes out? LOL.
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And the many who have and still want Panderans as playible race since Vanilla.
Of course there are features of any game that people can say is stupid, sad, or childish, but you can't ingore the fact there are many who have wanted this.
Something that was suppose to be a fucking JOKE!
Even Blizzard was shock by the overwhelming reponse of Warcraft fans, so in turn they added them into the Lore.
They weren't thinking hey you know guys Xondar123 think's its stupid, sad, and chikdish lets not make it anymore.
Any word on what kind of mounts the Panda bears will get? I have a Panda engineer with a chopper pictured in my mind.
Really? This game sucks and Im not having fun? Im going to unsub right now. Thanks for the tip.
Fucking nice clip!
I'm just waiting for someone to say they are elite in arenas when MOP goes live. LOL.
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Topic title is RIGHT ON.
I just watched the video for the new WoW expansion...and it's seriously lame.
Burning Crusade was awesome because there was a great evil to destroy.
Wrath of the Lich King was awesome because there was an even greater evil to destroy.
Cataclysm, same thing, the world is ripped apart a huge pissed-off dragon is randomly killing people. Good stuff
Pandaria we get to sit around in monkville and let our pets fight each other...woohoo. There is no great evil, there is no impossible challenge to overcome. So why the hell would I play it? I left that game shortly after Cataclysm, but I can say the last place you would ever find my orc warrior is in Pandaria hanging out with Jack Black.
A lot of people are saying they have been wanting to see this race in the game for a while; but what race have they NOT wanted to see honestly? They say they were around before Kung-Fu Panda, but the problem is it's HORRIBLE timing. The first thing everyone thinks about when they see a Pandaran is Kung-Fu Panda, whether you don't want to or not, you will because it's been in popular culture lately.
New talent changes...that happens in every patch. New level cap...who cares. Nothing interesting in this expansion thus far. I think it's total crap for Blizzard, and even though I don't play WoW anymore, I'm disappointed at Blizzard. But who knows, this expansion could be eluding to the all mighty "Titan" they've mentioned so who knows.
That's true, but a lot of people also don't like Warcraft and the medieval setting. I know I never played the old Warcraft games, and it took me a long time to decide to play Warcraft, but I did like it and enjoyed it. I quit because it was too much work building yourself up to a top raiding guild, and pvp at that. I have always liked sci-fi games and I did quit WoW a few times and go play other games like Tabula Rasa. If it's a good game, word will get out and people will play it.
There are lots of things in ancient lore that looks childesh for example cutsey gnomes and hobbits for another example even though not directly related to WOW. But does that make LOTRO childish? it is a matter of perception and taste. You just took one example to make your point and ignored the rest.
It has nothign to do with religion but you do lack a very basic understanding that while some will hate Pandarians other will love it. Welcome to real life where tastes differ.
True words were never spoken; the players will kill it. Which I believe will happen, eventually, who knows when; but it will.
The thing is now, people are getting tired of playing that game, and growing out of it. WoW raised the bar and a lot of shit games came out after it, trying to repeat it's success. But now, years later, we have a game company doing the EXACT thing Blizzard did. They have a huge following (BIoware is bar far one of the best RPG game developers in existence beside Square), and they are making their first MMO, and they aren't going to screw it up because LA is involved for one. SWTOR is a different game than WoW, it's more in line with what an MMORPG should be: a game within a game within a game. MMO's have evolved and both SWTOR and The Secret World will be testaments of that. WoW is falling behind in terms of innovation.