Name 1 MMO where you can build houses, towns, castles, ships, farms & non carebear PVP for territorial control.
I'll wait.
And the most important, it's not another generic wow clone with nothing but quests, instanced raids and instanced battlegrounds at endgame.
How much does that really matter when the combat engine performance is terrible? That sounds like a fine game if you put the right game engine around it, but from what I just watched, this is not it.
It matters a lot because this game offers far more than combat. Newcomers to the mmo scene are really at a disadvantage here. They can't think past combat and fail to see a bigger picture than their win/loss ratio.
I'm a MUDD player, so it has absolutely nothing to do with being a "newcomer". It has everything to do with the combat engine being a hunk of crap. The fact that your acting the apologist just confirms that.
If you want to build a game based things other than combat, then have at it. But don't include "Non carebear PvP for territorial control, instanced raids, and battlegrounds" in the list of features. You need a good combat system for that, this game doesn't have one. And from what I just saw, combat is part and parcel in this game.
SWTOR have an awful outdated combat system for a game launching in 2012, SWTOR have an awful end-game, SWTOR is an awful instanced game.
I bet I've spent more time in WoW, SWTOR and most themepark games than you. But I have also spent a lot of time in sandbox and player driven games, I prefer the latter.
I have been dreaming of a game with the mix of bost themepark-esque content and sandbox, ArcheAge seems to be that game, ArcheAge does not require you to get to the end-game to unlock itself.
ArcheAge have a better combat system than SWTOR. Look at SWTOR videos, it looks horrible but when you play it, it feels entirely different, ArcheAge combat system has more depth than SWTOR which is basically a copy of WoW spells/abilities.
Maybe you should try ArcheAge before you bash it, same goes for those who praises it to high heaven like me, but it's a better MMORPG than SWTOR, I wouldnt call SWTOR a MMORPG at all though.
And some lying SOB said that SWTOR housed 400 people in the same sharded zone, that's complete BS. Most SWTOR servers feels like ghost towns. It's just basically idling in your respective fleet, doing dailies at belsavis/ilum or running in instances, there is zero immersion and after leveling your first character doing mission feels like a tedious choir where you just spam your space key.
I forgot to mention the annoying delay in warzones and how the game cant handle more than 20 people in the same area without becoming a chopfest, this is on ultra rigs.
The "leveling zones" are seperate from eachother faction wise so playing on a high pop PvP server you will rarely cross paths with players from the other faction.
SWTOR, WOW, RIFT and what not are clear indications of what the masses want to play, and that's fine with me, it will keep the kind of people I do not enjoy gaming with occupied with their rage kid attitudes and e-penis contests.
What a MUDD player is I do not know. I used to play MUD games though, and the general audience of MUD games appreciate games with depth and freedom.
It seems like your biggest quarrel with this game is that it's Korean and by that definition it must be a Lineage 2 grindfest. That sounds lovely to me since I love grinding as well as sandbox and themepark play. ArcheAge seems to be a pretty solid game.
ArcheAge have a better combat system than SWTOR. Look at SWTOR videos, it looks horrible but when you play it, it feels entirely different, ArcheAge combat system has more depth than SWTOR which is basically a copy of WoW spells/abilities.
So you are saying SWTOR look horrible but plays great? I don't get it?
Maybe you should try ArcheAge before you bash it, same goes for those who praises it to high heaven like me, but it's a better MMORPG than SWTOR, I wouldnt call SWTOR a MMORPG at all though.
This is like double-contradiction. So you say people should try it first, then you make a judgement on ArcheAge being better than SWTOR?
I forgot to mention the annoying delay in warzones and how the game cant handle more than 20 people in the same area without becoming a chopfest, this is on ultra rigs.
Dunno, I have much better fps than playing in Rift
It seems like your biggest quarrel with this game is that it's Korean and by that definition it must be a Lineage 2 grindfest. That sounds lovely to me since I love grinding as well as sandbox and themepark play. ArcheAge seems to be a pretty solid game.
Agree, Just because it is korean doesn't mean it will end up the same as the others.
The video is promising, but aren't people hyping it way to much already? It doesn't even have target release yet?
Or does it? Pls prove me wrong :P
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW? As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
ArcheAge have a better combat system than SWTOR. Look at SWTOR videos, it looks horrible but when you play it, it feels entirely different, ArcheAge combat system has more depth than SWTOR which is basically a copy of WoW spells/abilities.
So you are saying SWTOR look horrible but plays great? I don't get it?
Maybe you should try ArcheAge before you bash it, same goes for those who praises it to high heaven like me, but it's a better MMORPG than SWTOR, I wouldnt call SWTOR a MMORPG at all though.
This is like double-contradiction. So you say people should try it first, then you make a judgement on ArcheAge being better than SWTOR?
I forgot to mention the annoying delay in warzones and how the game cant handle more than 20 people in the same area without becoming a chopfest, this is on ultra rigs.
Dunno, I have much better fps than playing in Rift
It seems like your biggest quarrel with this game is that it's Korean and by that definition it must be a Lineage 2 grindfest. That sounds lovely to me since I love grinding as well as sandbox and themepark play. ArcheAge seems to be a pretty solid game.
Agree, Just because it is korean doesn't mean it will end up the same as the others.
The video is promising, but aren't people hyping it way to much already? It doesn't even have target release yet?
ArcheAge have a better combat system than SWTOR. Look at SWTOR videos, it looks horrible but when you play it, it feels entirely different, ArcheAge combat system has more depth than SWTOR which is basically a copy of WoW spells/abilities.
So you are saying SWTOR look horrible but plays great? I don't get it?
Maybe you should try ArcheAge before you bash it, same goes for those who praises it to high heaven like me, but it's a better MMORPG than SWTOR, I wouldnt call SWTOR a MMORPG at all though.
This is like double-contradiction. So you say people should try it first, then you make a judgement on ArcheAge being better than SWTOR?
I forgot to mention the annoying delay in warzones and how the game cant handle more than 20 people in the same area without becoming a chopfest, this is on ultra rigs.
Dunno, I have much better fps than playing in Rift
It seems like your biggest quarrel with this game is that it's Korean and by that definition it must be a Lineage 2 grindfest. That sounds lovely to me since I love grinding as well as sandbox and themepark play. ArcheAge seems to be a pretty solid game.
Agree, Just because it is korean doesn't mean it will end up the same as the others.
The video is promising, but aren't people hyping it way to much already? It doesn't even have target release yet?
Or does it? Pls prove me wrong :P
Same thing could be said about GW2
this.
but it could also be said about any mmo that releases. One thing is for sure people have a feirce passion for their MMO's.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore) Now Playing: N/A Worst MMO: FFXIV Favorite MMO: FFXI
ArcheAge have a better combat system than SWTOR. Look at SWTOR videos, it looks horrible but when you play it, it feels entirely different, ArcheAge combat system has more depth than SWTOR which is basically a copy of WoW spells/abilities.
So you are saying SWTOR look horrible but plays great? I don't get it?
Maybe you should try ArcheAge before you bash it, same goes for those who praises it to high heaven like me, but it's a better MMORPG than SWTOR, I wouldnt call SWTOR a MMORPG at all though.
This is like double-contradiction. So you say people should try it first, then you make a judgement on ArcheAge being better than SWTOR?
I forgot to mention the annoying delay in warzones and how the game cant handle more than 20 people in the same area without becoming a chopfest, this is on ultra rigs.
Dunno, I have much better fps than playing in Rift
It seems like your biggest quarrel with this game is that it's Korean and by that definition it must be a Lineage 2 grindfest. That sounds lovely to me since I love grinding as well as sandbox and themepark play. ArcheAge seems to be a pretty solid game.
Agree, Just because it is korean doesn't mean it will end up the same as the others.
The video is promising, but aren't people hyping it way to much already? It doesn't even have target release yet?
Or does it? Pls prove me wrong :P
Same thing could be said about GW2
Why are we mentioning GW2 in a ArcheAge thread?
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW? As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
ArcheAge have a better combat system than SWTOR. Look at SWTOR videos, it looks horrible but when you play it, it feels entirely different, ArcheAge combat system has more depth than SWTOR which is basically a copy of WoW spells/abilities.
So you are saying SWTOR look horrible but plays great? I don't get it?
Maybe you should try ArcheAge before you bash it, same goes for those who praises it to high heaven like me, but it's a better MMORPG than SWTOR, I wouldnt call SWTOR a MMORPG at all though.
This is like double-contradiction. So you say people should try it first, then you make a judgement on ArcheAge being better than SWTOR?
I forgot to mention the annoying delay in warzones and how the game cant handle more than 20 people in the same area without becoming a chopfest, this is on ultra rigs.
Dunno, I have much better fps than playing in Rift
It seems like your biggest quarrel with this game is that it's Korean and by that definition it must be a Lineage 2 grindfest. That sounds lovely to me since I love grinding as well as sandbox and themepark play. ArcheAge seems to be a pretty solid game.
Agree, Just because it is korean doesn't mean it will end up the same as the others.
The video is promising, but aren't people hyping it way to much already? It doesn't even have target release yet?
ArcheAge have a better combat system than SWTOR. Look at SWTOR videos, it looks horrible but when you play it, it feels entirely different, ArcheAge combat system has more depth than SWTOR which is basically a copy of WoW spells/abilities.
So you are saying SWTOR look horrible but plays great? I don't get it?
Maybe you should try ArcheAge before you bash it, same goes for those who praises it to high heaven like me, but it's a better MMORPG than SWTOR, I wouldnt call SWTOR a MMORPG at all though.
This is like double-contradiction. So you say people should try it first, then you make a judgement on ArcheAge being better than SWTOR?
I forgot to mention the annoying delay in warzones and how the game cant handle more than 20 people in the same area without becoming a chopfest, this is on ultra rigs.
Dunno, I have much better fps than playing in Rift
It seems like your biggest quarrel with this game is that it's Korean and by that definition it must be a Lineage 2 grindfest. That sounds lovely to me since I love grinding as well as sandbox and themepark play. ArcheAge seems to be a pretty solid game.
Agree, Just because it is korean doesn't mean it will end up the same as the others.
The video is promising, but aren't people hyping it way to much already? It doesn't even have target release yet?
Or does it? Pls prove me wrong :P
Same thing could be said about GW2
Why are we mentioning GW2 in a ArcheAge thread?
was proving a point.
Didn't seem much of a point relating to ArcheAge..........
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW? As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
ArcheAge have a better combat system than SWTOR. Look at SWTOR videos, it looks horrible but when you play it, it feels entirely different, ArcheAge combat system has more depth than SWTOR which is basically a copy of WoW spells/abilities.
So you are saying SWTOR look horrible but plays great? I don't get it?
Maybe you should try ArcheAge before you bash it, same goes for those who praises it to high heaven like me, but it's a better MMORPG than SWTOR, I wouldnt call SWTOR a MMORPG at all though.
This is like double-contradiction. So you say people should try it first, then you make a judgement on ArcheAge being better than SWTOR?
I forgot to mention the annoying delay in warzones and how the game cant handle more than 20 people in the same area without becoming a chopfest, this is on ultra rigs.
Dunno, I have much better fps than playing in Rift
It seems like your biggest quarrel with this game is that it's Korean and by that definition it must be a Lineage 2 grindfest. That sounds lovely to me since I love grinding as well as sandbox and themepark play. ArcheAge seems to be a pretty solid game.
Agree, Just because it is korean doesn't mean it will end up the same as the others.
The video is promising, but aren't people hyping it way to much already? It doesn't even have target release yet?
Or does it? Pls prove me wrong :P
Same thing could be said about GW2
Why are we mentioning GW2 in a ArcheAge thread?
was proving a point.
Didn't seem much of a point relating to ArcheAge..........
You said "Arent people hyping it way to much?" so i said... " Same thing could be said about GW2" The point being about people hyping a game to much. Thats how it relates to AA. The hype. So there you go.
Does GW2 have a reliese date yet? no
Does AA have a reliese date yet? no
Are people hyping these 2 games? yes
So my statment about the same could be said about GW2 is......... ill let you finish the sentence.
if you dont know ill give you a hint. it begins with an R and ends with a ELEVANT.
I don't know much about the game, but from the videos I've seen, I probably won't be playing it. The art style reminds me of every F2P game I've ever played.
I'm not saying it's a bad game, I'm just saying the artstyle is generic and unappealing.
Please i hope this dude isnt serious every freaking F2P looks like a cheap lineage 2 or even more outdated game copy. You dare to say that has f2p artwork... plz stay free scrub.
I don't know much about the game, but from the videos I've seen, I probably won't be playing it. The art style reminds me of every F2P game I've ever played.
I'm not saying it's a bad game, I'm just saying the artstyle is generic and unappealing.
Please i hope this dude isnt serious every freaking F2P looks like a cheap lineage 2 or even more outdated game copy. You dare to say that has f2p artwork... plz stay free scrub.
Are you implying that L2s art is bad? In that case I would like to say you are the scrub.
Sandbox MMORPGs that are not very well-known but definitely worth a look:
Ryzom, Haven and Hearth, Xsyon, The Repopulation, UO private shards, Mortal Online, Darkfall 1 remakes (New Dawn or Rise of Agon), RPG MO, Project Gorgon, EQ: Sanctuary (custom server)
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SWTOR have an awful outdated combat system for a game launching in 2012, SWTOR have an awful end-game, SWTOR is an awful instanced game.
I bet I've spent more time in WoW, SWTOR and most themepark games than you. But I have also spent a lot of time in sandbox and player driven games, I prefer the latter.
I have been dreaming of a game with the mix of bost themepark-esque content and sandbox, ArcheAge seems to be that game, ArcheAge does not require you to get to the end-game to unlock itself.
ArcheAge have a better combat system than SWTOR. Look at SWTOR videos, it looks horrible but when you play it, it feels entirely different, ArcheAge combat system has more depth than SWTOR which is basically a copy of WoW spells/abilities.
Maybe you should try ArcheAge before you bash it, same goes for those who praises it to high heaven like me, but it's a better MMORPG than SWTOR, I wouldnt call SWTOR a MMORPG at all though.
And some lying SOB said that SWTOR housed 400 people in the same sharded zone, that's complete BS. Most SWTOR servers feels like ghost towns. It's just basically idling in your respective fleet, doing dailies at belsavis/ilum or running in instances, there is zero immersion and after leveling your first character doing mission feels like a tedious choir where you just spam your space key.
I forgot to mention the annoying delay in warzones and how the game cant handle more than 20 people in the same area without becoming a chopfest, this is on ultra rigs.
The "leveling zones" are seperate from eachother faction wise so playing on a high pop PvP server you will rarely cross paths with players from the other faction.
SWTOR, WOW, RIFT and what not are clear indications of what the masses want to play, and that's fine with me, it will keep the kind of people I do not enjoy gaming with occupied with their rage kid attitudes and e-penis contests.
What a MUDD player is I do not know. I used to play MUD games though, and the general audience of MUD games appreciate games with depth and freedom.
It seems like your biggest quarrel with this game is that it's Korean and by that definition it must be a Lineage 2 grindfest. That sounds lovely to me since I love grinding as well as sandbox and themepark play. ArcheAge seems to be a pretty solid game.
The video is promising, but aren't people hyping it way to much already? It doesn't even have target release yet?
Or does it? Pls prove me wrong :P
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
Same thing could be said about GW2
this.
but it could also be said about any mmo that releases. One thing is for sure people have a feirce passion for their MMO's.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
Why are we mentioning GW2 in a ArcheAge thread?
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
was proving a point.
Thank you.
We need a NA/EU beta immediately. lol
Didn't seem much of a point relating to ArcheAge..........
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
You said "Arent people hyping it way to much?" so i said... " Same thing could be said about GW2" The point being about people hyping a game to much. Thats how it relates to AA. The hype. So there you go.
Does GW2 have a reliese date yet? no
Does AA have a reliese date yet? no
Are people hyping these 2 games? yes
So my statment about the same could be said about GW2 is......... ill let you finish the sentence.
if you dont know ill give you a hint. it begins with an R and ends with a ELEVANT.
hyping is hoping. ; P
Imo people are desperate for a new sandbox and will believe in most things they hear nowadays.
Please i hope this dude isnt serious every freaking F2P looks like a cheap lineage 2 or even more outdated game copy. You dare to say that has f2p artwork... plz stay free scrub.
Are you implying that L2s art is bad? In that case I would like to say you are the scrub.
Greetings everyone, I'm posting today to announce that the first siege battle happened yesterday in ArcheAge.
So the CBT4 testers have been very busy lately, and after creating the first castle (and another video) (on the North Continent), they declared the first siege battle. Have a look! Some pre-battle, during the siege, more siege battle (hd).
Have fun!
Ryzom, Haven and Hearth, Xsyon, The Repopulation, UO private shards, Mortal Online, Darkfall 1 remakes (New Dawn or Rise of Agon), RPG MO, Project Gorgon, EQ: Sanctuary (custom server)