No it wasnt, it only shows you never played mmos back in the day quit pretendinf. Even trials required a CC.
I think i was 15-16 when i started playing UO third dawn, and I bought the game twice because i didn't have a CC and i couldn't find any time cards. I was still able to play for my free month both times without any sort of payment information.
If you want to keep on playing, is one step, subscribing at day 1.
If you don't want to keep on playing after the free (or prepayed when you buy the game if you want) period ends, it's 2 steps, subscribing and unsubscriging. If you forget to unsubscribe, they charge you.
But of course anything your favorite company does is ok.
ofcourse they will charge because you set a recurring subscribtion. Forgeting to cancel and then blaming company is just convenient. How about cancel it moment your account gets activated? i do it all the time and if i forget i can only blame myself for beign care less. Do you even have a real argument here?
I'm sorry englihs is my 3rd language, its not my problem you have such a silly spelling system.
I'm sorry I'm shitting on your glorious wow in space.
Please continue to tab target - global cooldown for another 7 years.
I want to give you the credit you deserve. You seem fluent in, not just 3 languages, but four. You have skill in Coprophagic. The rest of us simply call it Oral Diarehea. Well done! BTW - they are working on a new pill that improves the memory and speed of neuronic connections, possbly a great help for treatment of Alzheimers and senile memory. Just hold on - things will get better! Merry Christmas!
After all the hoopes these bastards make you jump, the final insult is this, after pre buying and then buying the physical copy, they shit on us by forcing us to give them our credit card information, cus thats the only thing on there mind, to suck as much money from our poor sobs as possible.
Any one familiar with business law please tell me if there is a solid foundation for this ?
its like buying food at a restaurant : forking out cash even before you get in there, then paying full price before you get to enjoy the low quality of this steaming turd of a game.
while the dish is ready in the kitchen, suddenly you need to give them your credit card so they can charge you at a later date, -should you make the mistake of walking to there direction.
I for one had little repsect for this game in beta, buying this turd just to play with friends, for the love of god bring out GW2 or any next gen MMO.
This game is near ready for Beta and its officially, people have been mentioning bugs like the UI for months and nothing happens, -this tub of shit will loose 50% of the players in 6 months.
You must be new to MMOs as this is what EVERY SINGLE MMO EVER does.
I'm sorry englihs is my 3rd language, its not my problem you have such a silly spelling system.
I'm sorry I'm shitting on your glorious wow in space.
Please continue to tab target - global cooldown for another 7 years.
I love how these people that say they hated the game in beta still buy it. Then claim they were forced to buy it or forced to do this or that. Real simple-don't buy it. I think they are just mad that their favorite game to bash is out now and successful, so they are having to reach to continue bashing it. It must be worth the $60 to them to have some more ammunition in their quest to bash.
I'm sorry englihs is my 3rd language, its not my problem you have such a silly spelling system.
I'm sorry I'm shitting on your glorious wow in space.
Please continue to tab target - global cooldown for another 7 years.
I love how these people that say they hated the game in beta still buy it. Then claim they were forced to buy it or forced to do this or that. Real simple-don't buy it. I think they are just mad that their favorite game to bash is out now and successful, so they are having to reach to continue bashing it. It must be worth the $60 to them to have some more ammunition in their quest to bash.
I don't understand why people who didn't care much for SWTOR in the beta bought it knowing they only want to play for one month. That's a ridiculous waste of $60.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
you are buying a P2P game.... and complaing about having to enter info to support the P2P model you are agreeing to when installing the game..... wow.... just wow... do you go to mcdonalds and complain that you have to pay money to buy a hamburger and fries before you can eat them??
or you have to pay the phone company to have an active phone to call people?? OR how about putting gas in your car... do you complain about having to drive to the gas station and pay for gas to drive your car???
i mean really.. this game you buy the physical copy (that price pays for the marketing and production of the physical copy as well as make them profit) then you pay a sub WHICH YOU AGREE TO DO... when you click "i agree" to the TOS/EULA....
if you dont like it... DONT buy the game and dont pay the sub for it... not really rocket science @_@";
you arent greating a nutron bomb from a potato and copper wire here....
if you disagree with paying money for the game (entering your credit details for later billing) then dont install the game and dont make an account to play it... >>"
I think us, Europeans, should write a letter to our MEPs and force them to write a directive that forbids companies ask CC info in prior to allowing prebought game time.
It would actually go through, like they forced MS to make a different version of Windows to EU
Before you start disemboweling foam from your mouth, this isn't an against SW:TOR post.
"According to European Commission Regulation No. 1277/88, if a cucumber bends more than 10 millimeters per 10 centimeters (0.4 inches per 4 inches) in length, it cannot be categorized as "class one" and may therefore only be sold as a second-rate cucumber."
This is no joke, there are tons of such ridiculous regulations.... I heartily hope EU will burn with upcoming fall of EUR.
While your holding your breath over that, we really should make something out of the supposed power of many.
Didn't check whether you're an european smartass or from somewhere else on the universe, but US is already filled with ridiculous legistlation such as you posted (which by the way has been cancelled since).
What is wrong with this is, is that they encouraged you to enter your registration code before early access ended so you would get seamless play and prevent any loss/delay to items that came with it.
If they wanted you to pay / enter payment details then it should be all done at the one time. Now people who have entered their game registration code and waiting to get their time cards, are now losing the 30 days that came with the game as can no longer play. Fortunately I did not register my game. I was going to, but never got around to it, then the site was down for miantenance. Came to do later and then saw all these posts, so now I just need to wait for my time cards to arrive, which I do not see getting before the New Year now.
I do not remember doing this with LOTRO. I bought a LT sub but it was within a month after release, and did not need to enter payment details.
If it was not for the hacking going around atm, seemingly just targetting MMO companies, I would provide details without hesitation.
I have not come across this procedure for ages. WOW and SWG recently were not asking for card details if you had a game registration code.
Originally posted by superniceguy Now people who have entered their game registration code and waiting to get their time cards, are now losing the 30 days that came with the game as can no longer play.
Is this related to 2 days grace period and subsequent account suspension?
Are you sure your 30 days period start with account creation and not setting up payment method actually?
While it's not a huge issue for me, today I received a lovely email from Trion basically informing me that the information I put in to play Rift for my 'free month' has been stolen by hackers. Name, CC info including expiry date and security code, dob, address...
I never even subscribed to Rift after the free month
Originally posted by DeeMarie today I received a lovely email from Trion basically informing me that the information I put in to play Rift for my 'free month' has been stolen by hackers. Name, CC info including expiry date and security code, dob, address...
No name, no security code, no full credit card number.
Originally posted by Trion Worlds Support The database in question contained information including user names, encrypted passwords, dates of birth, email addresses, billing addresses, and the first and last four digits and expiration dates of customer credit cards.
There is no evidence, and we have no reason to believe, that full credit card information was accessed or compromised in any way.
I'm sorry englihs is my 3rd language, its not my problem you have such a silly spelling system.
I'm sorry I'm shitting on your glorious wow in space.
Please continue to tab target - global cooldown for another 7 years.
Grats on your third language some of the people around here are still working on their first and they poke fun at people working on their third.........
First of all, no one is forcing you to spend another subscription fee on top of what you have paid already. You only need to setup subscription plan and then you can cancel the subscription immediately if you wish. You will be not charged.
If you have no creditcard they do. Did not even found a 30 day card and had to by a 60 day card. That part in my opinion is just odd. Just because it on the box and comon practice does not make it less strage to me :P
I'm sorry englihs is my 3rd language, its not my problem you have such a silly spelling system.
I'm sorry I'm shitting on your glorious wow in space.
Please continue to tab target - global cooldown for another 7 years.
Grats on your third language some of the people around here are still working on their first and they poke fun at people working on their third.........
Well to be fair.. when you're trolling people tend to pick apart whatever you wrote.... it's not like he was being nice lol.
First of all, no one is forcing you to spend another subscription fee on top of what you have paid already. You only need to setup subscription plan and then you can cancel the subscription immediately if you wish. You will be not charged.
If you have no creditcard they do. Did not even found a 30 day card and had to by a 60 day card. That part in my opinion is just odd. Just because it on the box and comon practice does not make it less strage to me :P
I fully agree, it's a VERY strange practice, common or not...
Originally posted by Coman If you have no creditcard they do.
It was your choice not to use a standard payment method - CC. You have to bear the consequences of your choice. You are not forced into anything.
Yes, I have admitted several times and even stress myself that the process of subscribing and immediate canceling isn't intuitive. The information could probably be provided more clearly and easier to find.
First of all, no one is forcing you to spend another subscription fee on top of what you have paid already. You only need to setup subscription plan and then you can cancel the subscription immediately if you wish. You will be not charged.
If you have no creditcard they do. Did not even found a 30 day card and had to by a 60 day card. That part in my opinion is just odd. Just because it on the box and comon practice does not make it less strage to me :P
I fully agree, it's a VERY strange practice, common or not...
It was common practice few years ago, but it it is no more common anymore. All the mainstream games don't need your cc info to have you play the game for the 1r month, they don't need your cc info for trial, when they renew old account for veteran come back days or whatever. They used to ask them though. They don't anymore for the large majority if not for all of them. Why did Bioware/EA put back this practice into this game is something i just can't explain, or wish not to explain, i'll let everyone decide what are the reason. Omission, lack of experience, greediness, i don't know, i don't care either i won't play this game. But when i see fan boys flooding and pretending it is today the most common practice, its plain false. It used to be back then, like 5 to 10 years ago. It is not anymore, check any of the few last gen mmo and check by yourself.
Are you new to MMO's? It's been standard practice in every game since EQ and UO has required that the player set up some sort of payment method in advance.
If you look at my profile and date joined you might conclude that I have been playing MMO's for a long time. It's kind of ignorant to keep pointing that it's common practice and that everyone complaining has the IQ of a cucumber. It's not common practice.
I have been part of MMO's as a consumer since I got broadband Internet, which is in 2000.
I bought the game checking that gamecards will be a valid payment option. Now instead of pointing out how inexperienced I am, and everyone else complaining as well... tell me why am I forced to buy a gamecard now to use my free month?
THAT is not common practice as well, and it will not hold up in a court of law.
lol it will not hold up in court? Yes it will hold up in a court of law, you sir are wrong.
LOL did u even read the EULA? And yes it IS standard practice since my first MMO UO.
Wait I get it this post must be a joke, cause I cannot believe someone is complaining about this.
today I received a lovely email from Trion basically informing me that the information I put in to play Rift for my 'free month' has been stolen by hackers. Name, CC info including expiry date and security code, dob, address...
No name, no security code, no full credit card number.
Originally posted by Trion Worlds Support
The database in question contained information including user names, encrypted passwords, dates of birth, email addresses, billing addresses, and the first and last four digits and expiration dates of customer credit cards.
There is no evidence, and we have no reason to believe, that full credit card information was accessed or compromised in any way.
I wish you didn't expose trolls that fast. Baiting is the best form of sports
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I think i was 15-16 when i started playing UO third dawn, and I bought the game twice because i didn't have a CC and i couldn't find any time cards. I was still able to play for my free month both times without any sort of payment information.
Yes maybe you are right actually.
An honest review of SW:TOR 6/10 (Danny Wojcicki)
I want to give you the credit you deserve. You seem fluent in, not just 3 languages, but four. You have skill in Coprophagic. The rest of us simply call it Oral Diarehea. Well done! BTW - they are working on a new pill that improves the memory and speed of neuronic connections, possbly a great help for treatment of Alzheimers and senile memory. Just hold on - things will get better! Merry Christmas!
You must be new to MMOs as this is what EVERY SINGLE MMO EVER does.
I love how these people that say they hated the game in beta still buy it. Then claim they were forced to buy it or forced to do this or that. Real simple-don't buy it. I think they are just mad that their favorite game to bash is out now and successful, so they are having to reach to continue bashing it. It must be worth the $60 to them to have some more ammunition in their quest to bash.
I don't understand why people who didn't care much for SWTOR in the beta bought it knowing they only want to play for one month. That's a ridiculous waste of $60.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
~Albert Einstein
I am simply amazed at the people complaining about having to sub up front,
there is only one service out of the many i have ever been able to pay for after i used the service,
and that is at a restaurant.
All other services require a payment up front that includes Cable TV, Satellite TV, Internet Phone, and cell phone service
along with groceries, rent, i can go on but you get the picture.
feel lucky that they don't apply 1 to 2 year contracts on MMO's like they require on cell phones.
this is for America however and i have no clue how it works in other country's but
i cant imagine it being much different.
There is no law, stop crying get a bank account and join the real world. If your tinfoil hat is strong go get a prepaid credit card.
you are buying a P2P game.... and complaing about having to enter info to support the P2P model you are agreeing to when installing the game..... wow.... just wow... do you go to mcdonalds and complain that you have to pay money to buy a hamburger and fries before you can eat them??
or you have to pay the phone company to have an active phone to call people?? OR how about putting gas in your car... do you complain about having to drive to the gas station and pay for gas to drive your car???
i mean really.. this game you buy the physical copy (that price pays for the marketing and production of the physical copy as well as make them profit) then you pay a sub WHICH YOU AGREE TO DO... when you click "i agree" to the TOS/EULA....
if you dont like it... DONT buy the game and dont pay the sub for it... not really rocket science @_@";
you arent greating a nutron bomb from a potato and copper wire here....
if you disagree with paying money for the game (entering your credit details for later billing) then dont install the game and dont make an account to play it... >>"
While your holding your breath over that, we really should make something out of the supposed power of many.
Didn't check whether you're an european smartass or from somewhere else on the universe, but US is already filled with ridiculous legistlation such as you posted (which by the way has been cancelled since).
What is wrong with this is, is that they encouraged you to enter your registration code before early access ended so you would get seamless play and prevent any loss/delay to items that came with it.
If they wanted you to pay / enter payment details then it should be all done at the one time. Now people who have entered their game registration code and waiting to get their time cards, are now losing the 30 days that came with the game as can no longer play. Fortunately I did not register my game. I was going to, but never got around to it, then the site was down for miantenance. Came to do later and then saw all these posts, so now I just need to wait for my time cards to arrive, which I do not see getting before the New Year now.
I do not remember doing this with LOTRO. I bought a LT sub but it was within a month after release, and did not need to enter payment details.
If it was not for the hacking going around atm, seemingly just targetting MMO companies, I would provide details without hesitation.
I have not come across this procedure for ages. WOW and SWG recently were not asking for card details if you had a game registration code.
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Is this related to 2 days grace period and subsequent account suspension?
Are you sure your 30 days period start with account creation and not setting up payment method actually?
While it's not a huge issue for me, today I received a lovely email from Trion basically informing me that the information I put in to play Rift for my 'free month' has been stolen by hackers. Name, CC info including expiry date and security code, dob, address...
I never even subscribed to Rift after the free month
No name, no security code, no full credit card number.
Grats on your third language some of the people around here are still working on their first and they poke fun at people working on their third.........
If you have no creditcard they do. Did not even found a 30 day card and had to by a 60 day card. That part in my opinion is just odd. Just because it on the box and comon practice does not make it less strage to me :P
Well to be fair.. when you're trolling people tend to pick apart whatever you wrote.... it's not like he was being nice lol.
I fully agree, it's a VERY strange practice, common or not...
It was your choice not to use a standard payment method - CC. You have to bear the consequences of your choice. You are not forced into anything.
Yes, I have admitted several times and even stress myself that the process of subscribing and immediate canceling isn't intuitive. The information could probably be provided more clearly and easier to find.
Only input credit card details if you want hackers to steal your info and ruin your credit history
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It was common practice few years ago, but it it is no more common anymore. All the mainstream games don't need your cc info to have you play the game for the 1r month, they don't need your cc info for trial, when they renew old account for veteran come back days or whatever. They used to ask them though. They don't anymore for the large majority if not for all of them. Why did Bioware/EA put back this practice into this game is something i just can't explain, or wish not to explain, i'll let everyone decide what are the reason. Omission, lack of experience, greediness, i don't know, i don't care either i won't play this game. But when i see fan boys flooding and pretending it is today the most common practice, its plain false. It used to be back then, like 5 to 10 years ago. It is not anymore, check any of the few last gen mmo and check by yourself.
lol it will not hold up in court? Yes it will hold up in a court of law, you sir are wrong.
LOL did u even read the EULA? And yes it IS standard practice since my first MMO UO.
Wait I get it this post must be a joke, cause I cannot believe someone is complaining about this.
Only input credit card details if you want convenient shopping, 24/7 service, fast delivery, better prices, more variety, etc.
I liked one of your previous posts but this is just silly...