How difficult is it to set up a Paypal account with your debit card? takes few seconds. All that time you spent typing this you could be subbed by now. They won't charge you anything till end of the month so what is the issue?
What bothers me is I have 30 days of game time on my account....
Why am i forced to sign up for a sub today when i dont need it? Maybe i'll be bored with the game in 30 days and wont want to play it anymore and then i'll just have to cancel this sub.
But the main thing that gets me is the fucking wait time.... Ive been sitting on the site now for near 45 mins in the "waiting room" so i can put my sub informatin in on an account that has 30 days of game time available in it so i can use my vacation i took to play the game....
Instead im wasting it writing this forum post and sitting in the waiting room on the swtor website.
There is no reason I should be forced to have an active subscription today if i still have gametime on my account.
¨indeed, I also have a vacation and not allot of free time, this is my vacation, to stare at a terrible blue swtor site and watch as my IP is blocked in a loop, been here for near 5 hours now, with in the frame of law they have it 100% ofc, but ethical no, its disgusting and wrong.
If you stay at a Hotel, you pay when you leave, if the Hotel messed up, you get discount, if they fucked up royal, you pay nothing, if they fucked up the booking and have no room for you, Hotel is forced to find an equal or better place and pay the traveling cost to get there.
Where is my equal or better place to stay now ? I'm standing infront of the Hotel, that I pre forked cash into and payed full price for the stay now the Hotel staff have an angry mob out site in the freezing cold and they dont give a shit and will not offer guests to stay at another equal or better place, -they'll just let you sleep out site in the bitter frost and die for all they care, Oops not until they get your credit card info so they can charge your frozen corpse thrown in the dumpster 30 day's later.
This MMO industry is terrible vs Hotel/Restaurant industry
I guess its for the fact the MMO industry is only a few years old and most of the cliantel are kids who do not know any better.
been in the Hotel Industry now for 15 years, its the little mistakes that separate soon to be hostels and respectful Hotels who price top dollar and 100% of the time offer what is expected of them, if we make one tiniest of mistakes you'll get a free night, free food, free stay or we will simply drive you to an equal or better hotel at our cost, then we will humbly ask forgiveness and back track with the tail between our legs.
but this MMO industry is in its infacny much like its cliantel who accepts to be shit on and been made to look like a fool and we pay actual money for this.
Having to enter the credit card info wasn't a problem for me, but they also stipulated I had to crate up the wife and mail her to the Bioware Austin offices.
OK they DIDN'T actually say that, but hey my cunning ruse got her out of my hair for the holidays.
To the OP, adding your credit card info when you create your account is standard operating proceedure for any MMO. They didn't have you do this until the 20th because they gave preoders a grace period. Its been that way for over ten years. Why this comes as a shock to you I do not understand.
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
Are you new to MMO's? It's been standard practice in every game since EQ and UO has required that the player set up some sort of payment method in advance.
If you look at my profile and date joined you might conclude that I have been playing MMO's for a long time. It's kind of ignorant to keep pointing that it's common practice and that everyone complaining has the IQ of a cucumber. It's not common practice.
I have been part of MMO's as a consumer since I got broadband Internet, which is in 2000.
I bought the game checking that gamecards will be a valid payment option. Now instead of pointing out how inexperienced I am, and everyone else complaining as well... tell me why am I forced to buy a gamecard now to use my free month?
THAT is not common practice as well, and it will not hold up in a court of law.
Seriously it seems that the MMo playerbase gets dumber and dumber with every new game that releases....well or maybe just the ppls posting here......
I'm sorry englihs is my 3rd language, its not my problem you have such a silly spelling system.
I'm sorry I'm shitting on your glorious wow in space.
Please continue to tab target - global cooldown for another 7 years.
Rofl, you truly have no clue why he said that, but needless to say this response here proves you have zero argument, and yes flailing around trying to put someone down with info that has zero basis in reality and is all in your head is having no argument.
Originally posted by AzzkickaMaybe i'll be bored with the game in 30 days and wont want to play it anymore and then i'll just have to cancel this sub.
Oh no! then youll have to go to a webpage and push a button! oh teh humanity! really how lazy can you be?
Heres a hint, this is how pretty much every mmo does it, please, PLEASe spend money on a lawyer for this so we can laugh our asses off when you reaslise you have no case.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling" Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
I swear to god, if you do not read it or choose to ignore its advice, I will put bees in your socks! Don't doubt me!
Point 3 could just as well be about online forums. Which makes your post kind of ironic (and mine but don't tell anyone! and I don't wear socks atm so you can forget about your threat too )
I swear to god, if you do not read it or choose to ignore its advice, I will put bees in your socks! Don't doubt me!
Point 3 could just as well be about online forums. Which makes your post kind of ironic (and mine but don't tell anyone! and I don't wear socks atm so you can forget about your threat too )
The funniest thing about that list is the pic for the dont feed the trolls isnt even a troll, its a goblin.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling" Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
There's plenty of precedent, anyway. Hotel rooms, for example.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Nearly every MMO does this, so you have to accept it! Accept the truth! You don't want to complain! Complain might lead to change and change is BAD! All MMO companies chose this practice which clearly makes this a result of a democratic procress! Those companies outnumber you, little complaining bad person! And being against this means you are being against democracy! So be a good citizen and accept our truth! And we will accept your payment details! For free!
Are you new to MMO's? It's been standard practice in every game since EQ and UO has required that the player set up some sort of payment method in advance.
If you look at my profile and date joined you might conclude that I have been playing MMO's for a long time. It's kind of ignorant to keep pointing that it's common practice and that everyone complaining has the IQ of a cucumber. It's not common practice.
I have been part of MMO's as a consumer since I got broadband Internet, which is in 2000.
I bought the game checking that gamecards will be a valid payment option. Now instead of pointing out how inexperienced I am, and everyone else complaining as well... tell me why am I forced to buy a gamecard now to use my free month?
THAT is not common practice as well, and it will not hold up in a court of law.
Well use some of that intelligence your have inside that knoggin and buy a prepaid credit card or open a paypal account. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY A PREPAID GAME CARD. There are other options.
Nearly every MMO does this, so you have to accept it! Accept the truth! You don't want to complain! Complain might lead to change and change is BAD! All MMO companies chose this practice which clearly makes this a result of a democratic procress! Those companies outnumber you, little complaining bad person! And being against this means you are being against democracy! So be a good citizen and accept our truth! And we will accept your payment details! For free!
I dont know what the fuck you just said, but I love you.
Are you new to MMO's? It's been standard practice in every game since EQ and UO has required that the player set up some sort of payment method in advance.
If you look at my profile and date joined you might conclude that I have been playing MMO's for a long time. It's kind of ignorant to keep pointing that it's common practice and that everyone complaining has the IQ of a cucumber. It's not common practice.
I have been part of MMO's as a consumer since I got broadband Internet, which is in 2000.
I bought the game checking that gamecards will be a valid payment option. Now instead of pointing out how inexperienced I am, and everyone else complaining as well... tell me why am I forced to buy a gamecard now to use my free month?
THAT is not common practice as well, and it will not hold up in a court of law.
In my experience it is common practice.
I started playing MMO's when DAoC was released. I had to enter CC info and set up a sub then. I have had to do the same for AoC, WoW, Warhammer, EQ2, CoH and a few others over the years.
While I cant tell you "WHY" they make you do it, I can tell you that it is the standard. I do not agree that it should be this way, but it is. And if you want to play then you have to abide by their rules. If not dont play the game.
And dont buy a gamecard. If nothing else go to your local drug store, target, walmart ect and buy a prepaid visa. That way if you do cancel after the 30 days you can use the visa to buy other stuff with, unlike a game card where its only use is for the game.
Just to be clear, you get the first 30 days for free, right? Like you paid the 60 bucks, you get 30 days free with that, and if you want, you can cancel before the 30 days are up and never once have to pay 15 dollars in subscription fees. Is all of this correct? If so then this is a pretty small problem - just cancel your subscription before the 30 days are up. Problem solved.
Are you new to MMO's? It's been standard practice in every game since EQ and UO has required that the player set up some sort of payment method in advance.
If you look at my profile and date joined you might conclude that I have been playing MMO's for a long time. It's kind of ignorant to keep pointing that it's common practice and that everyone complaining has the IQ of a cucumber. It's not common practice.
I have been part of MMO's as a consumer since I got broadband Internet, which is in 2000.
I bought the game checking that gamecards will be a valid payment option. Now instead of pointing out how inexperienced I am, and everyone else complaining as well... tell me why am I forced to buy a gamecard now to use my free month?
THAT is not common practice as well, and it will not hold up in a court of law.
While I cant tell you "WHY" they make you do it, I can tell you that it is the standard. I do not agree that it should be this way, but it is. And if you want to play then you have to abide by their rules. If not dont play the game.
heres one just off the top of my head, reduces bots/goldsellers.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling" Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
I think this is the first time I've really paid attention to forums like these during the release of a big property game like this. Is it always this hilarious?
I seriously encourage everyone to sue, sue, sue. A fool and his money...
Just to be clear, you get the first 30 days for free, right? Like you paid the 60 bucks, you get 30 days free with that, and if you want, you can cancel before the 30 days are up and never once have to pay 15 dollars in subscription fees. Is all of this correct? If so then this is a pretty small problem - just cancel your subscription before the 30 days are up. Problem solved.
No you dont get your first 30 days for free. The only reason they can claim that is because nowhere is mentioned what you actually paid for. (They mainly state what you didnt pay for, like apparently those 30 days)
What you do know is that you can't get those 'free' 30 days without paying (yeah I know, right? sounds so weird) and you can't use them without entering payment details. Even if it means you have to add a GTC key because that is the only payment option available to you for whatever reason.
Nowadays the meaning of the word 'free' is just as clear as the meaning of the word 'sandbox'.
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How difficult is it to set up a Paypal account with your debit card? takes few seconds. All that time you spent typing this you could be subbed by now. They won't charge you anything till end of the month so what is the issue?
¨indeed, I also have a vacation and not allot of free time, this is my vacation, to stare at a terrible blue swtor site and watch as my IP is blocked in a loop, been here for near 5 hours now, with in the frame of law they have it 100% ofc, but ethical no, its disgusting and wrong.
If you stay at a Hotel, you pay when you leave, if the Hotel messed up, you get discount, if they fucked up royal, you pay nothing, if they fucked up the booking and have no room for you, Hotel is forced to find an equal or better place and pay the traveling cost to get there.
Where is my equal or better place to stay now ? I'm standing infront of the Hotel, that I pre forked cash into and payed full price for the stay now the Hotel staff have an angry mob out site in the freezing cold and they dont give a shit and will not offer guests to stay at another equal or better place, -they'll just let you sleep out site in the bitter frost and die for all they care, Oops not until they get your credit card info so they can charge your frozen corpse thrown in the dumpster 30 day's later.
This MMO industry is terrible vs Hotel/Restaurant industry
I guess its for the fact the MMO industry is only a few years old and most of the cliantel are kids who do not know any better.
been in the Hotel Industry now for 15 years, its the little mistakes that separate soon to be hostels and respectful Hotels who price top dollar and 100% of the time offer what is expected of them, if we make one tiniest of mistakes you'll get a free night, free food, free stay or we will simply drive you to an equal or better hotel at our cost, then we will humbly ask forgiveness and back track with the tail between our legs.
but this MMO industry is in its infacny much like its cliantel who accepts to be shit on and been made to look like a fool and we pay actual money for this.
Having to enter the credit card info wasn't a problem for me, but they also stipulated I had to crate up the wife and mail her to the Bioware Austin offices.
OK they DIDN'T actually say that, but hey my cunning ruse got her out of my hair for the holidays.
To the OP, adding your credit card info when you create your account is standard operating proceedure for any MMO. They didn't have you do this until the 20th because they gave preoders a grace period. Its been that way for over ten years. Why this comes as a shock to you I do not understand.
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
The people qq about this must be the people who have only played F2P, they should do a little investigation before they start their whining.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
Is it April already?
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
Before ANYONE else replies to this thread, you MUST read #4 of this article: http://www.cracked.com/article_18861_5-internet-life-lessons-parents-need-to-start-teaching-kids.html
I swear to god, if you do not read it or choose to ignore its advice, I will put bees in your socks! Don't doubt me!
If you look at my profile and date joined you might conclude that I have been playing MMO's for a long time. It's kind of ignorant to keep pointing that it's common practice and that everyone complaining has the IQ of a cucumber. It's not common practice.
I have been part of MMO's as a consumer since I got broadband Internet, which is in 2000.
I bought the game checking that gamecards will be a valid payment option. Now instead of pointing out how inexperienced I am, and everyone else complaining as well... tell me why am I forced to buy a gamecard now to use my free month?
THAT is not common practice as well, and it will not hold up in a court of law.
Yep, its always really pAthetic when a company has so much buisness they cant handle it.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
Why do we have to sign up to a subscription? I havn't. I received my code and put it onto my account and I'm still playing, am I about to be cut off?
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The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
Rofl, you truly have no clue why he said that, but needless to say this response here proves you have zero argument, and yes flailing around trying to put someone down with info that has zero basis in reality and is all in your head is having no argument.
Oh no! then youll have to go to a webpage and push a button! oh teh humanity! really how lazy can you be?
Heres a hint, this is how pretty much every mmo does it, please, PLEASe spend money on a lawyer for this so we can laugh our asses off when you reaslise you have no case.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
Point 3 could just as well be about online forums. Which makes your post kind of ironic
(and mine but don't tell anyone! and I don't wear socks atm so you can forget about your threat too 
)
The funniest thing about that list is the pic for the dont feed the trolls isnt even a troll, its a goblin.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
There's plenty of precedent, anyway. Hotel rooms, for example.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
These are GREAT problems for Bioware to be having right now.
Nearly every MMO does this, so you have to accept it! Accept the truth! You don't want to complain! Complain might lead to change and change is BAD! All MMO companies chose this practice which clearly makes this a result of a democratic procress! Those companies outnumber you, little complaining bad person! And being against this means you are being against democracy! So be a good citizen and accept our truth! And we will accept your payment details! For free!
Well use some of that intelligence your have inside that knoggin and buy a prepaid credit card or open a paypal account. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY A PREPAID GAME CARD. There are other options.
ps. it wouldnt even make it into court
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
I dont know what the fuck you just said, but I love you.
In my experience it is common practice.
I started playing MMO's when DAoC was released. I had to enter CC info and set up a sub then. I have had to do the same for AoC, WoW, Warhammer, EQ2, CoH and a few others over the years.
While I cant tell you "WHY" they make you do it, I can tell you that it is the standard. I do not agree that it should be this way, but it is. And if you want to play then you have to abide by their rules. If not dont play the game.
And dont buy a gamecard. If nothing else go to your local drug store, target, walmart ect and buy a prepaid visa. That way if you do cancel after the 30 days you can use the visa to buy other stuff with, unlike a game card where its only use is for the game.
Just my 2cp
I just ordered a time code off Origin.
Easy, done.
Course I did it on the 20th before the rush.
No wait, no queues.
Sad violin playing during one of the biggest MMO launches ever from a companies freshman MMO effort.
To be expected there are some issues.
Welcome to the genre!
Just to be clear, you get the first 30 days for free, right? Like you paid the 60 bucks, you get 30 days free with that, and if you want, you can cancel before the 30 days are up and never once have to pay 15 dollars in subscription fees. Is all of this correct? If so then this is a pretty small problem - just cancel your subscription before the 30 days are up. Problem solved.
heres one just off the top of my head, reduces bots/goldsellers.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
I haven't seen a single gold seller spam message yet.
Then again, I generally keep the general tab hidden.
Saturday night was brutal for lvling services spam, played last night and didnt see any spam, Hopefully it was bioware who took care of this.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
I think this is the first time I've really paid attention to forums like these during the release of a big property game like this. Is it always this hilarious?
I seriously encourage everyone to sue, sue, sue. A fool and his money...
No you dont get your first 30 days for free. The only reason they can claim that is because nowhere is mentioned what you actually paid for. (They mainly state what you didnt pay for, like apparently those 30 days)
What you do know is that you can't get those 'free' 30 days without paying (yeah I know, right? sounds so weird) and you can't use them without entering payment details. Even if it means you have to add a GTC key because that is the only payment option available to you for whatever reason.
Nowadays the meaning of the word 'free' is just as clear as the meaning of the word 'sandbox'.