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and so the cat is out of the bag! EA has done it again! [High Rez Textures Thread]
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Such drama over a minor detail.
Let me ask you this? Since when did any game company feel the need to explain every decision they make to you? are you on some board that I'm not aware of? Did Blizard contact every player before making Pandas the next race? Or before changing classes around? Or before balancing classes for that matter? Did Conan consult me when they decided to go free to play?
What exactly do you think your owed? They make the game. They make the decisions. No one makes you play it, that's your choice. You don't like it, don't play it PERIOD.
You feel like you were lied to, quit. That's your right.
To use your car analogy. It would matter to you I am betting if you are supposed to get 35 miles to a gallon of gasoline. You buy the car and get 20. Right?
If the game is unable to play High-res textures then it's the engine or infastructure of the game that is entirely at fault. If that is the case it was in beta and the engine was found to be unable to handle it - thats fine with me to remove it.
But honestly, to me the graphics are the LEAST of SWTOR problems.
It was removed in beta before the game went live. Why everyone is up at arms about this is beyond me. The game is fail on plenty of levels and the fact they removed a feature during beta isn't really among them.
It wouldn't be the MMORPG.com forums without a lot of drama over minor details. This is just par for the course.
EA & BW's reputation took a massive hit today, no other way to say it. I know personally, they are on my skeptic list the next product they release.
On the lighter side best post i saw was re: this issue
Your playerbase has discovered that your game engine is ignoring the high texture option. Do you:
Fess up, explain that the pressure of the impending release date caused your team to have to cut a few corners, and this got missed.
Acknowledge the issue and agree that the textures should be fixed, and promise to do so in an upcoming patch.
[Force Persuade] [Dark Side] Rename “Medium” to High, and pretend like removing high res textures has always been the plan. Move along! Move along!
I think Bioware has just achieved Dark II!
Thats cool bro... you didnt know much and where pleasently suprised... your a casual player... awesome man.... so awesome.
BUT.... the outraged ones here are the ones that did follow the game and did play in the beta because.... its star wars... come on man.... you dont like star wars?
So for this major change to happen right in front of our faces with no warning especially when, like i said before, a lot of us where on the fence about buying it and did a lot of research and played in the beta just to decide... this is a low blow. If I would have known... i wouldn't have bought...
{mod edit}
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
Na they need to memorize the SOE mantra, "Working as intended".
Perhaps, but no one I know came to me and said... "hey, I'm buying TOR because they have HIGH REZ TEXTURES". Never heard that... not once, from anyone other then the OP and a bunch of folks that, judging from their past, are just jumping on the bandwagon and trashing the game.
My point was, for most people, which is clear from this thread, it is a NON ISSUE.
This is obviously a big deal for some of you or is it just the drama mamas that are making this an issue. Honestly the game is looking great to me. I guess I am easy to please.I am enjoying the voice overs and the stories and you guys can go on crying about this insignificant stuff while I get back to playing.
Damn so the most popular games are Aion,Rift,SWTOR,WOW,AOC,PERFECT WORLD,ARGO,DIGIMON ONLINE,SWG,and I can go on and on.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
Don't think I was deceived in any way on the graphics. Really don't think it's some conspiracy theory either. A decision was made to increase performance for the majority of TOR gamers at the expense of those who have the horsepower to have not been effective.
Those who don't like it and care so much can go edit their .ini files and force their gfx card settings until the high-res textures are patched back in.
Didn't even notice the graphics were different between the open world and cinematic stuff to be honest.
Guess I am enjoying playing the game enough to not really care about such details.
Never been a gfx whore though. I prefer solid game play.
Apparently I am "wrong" about my opinion on the game play being solid?
Now I see the point of those who are attacking me... right... I suppose next they'll say I'm a noob.. a noob who has been playing since UO back in '99. Now THAT was a game where game play > graphics. 2D for Christ's sake. Hated EQ and it's terrible 3D garbage graphics. Prefered my 2D sprites at the time lol
Back to the point, I think anyone who feels cheated by the gfx changes needs to get over it. You don't like it, don't play. Seriously it's that simple.
Devs don't tell us all the decisions they make during production. That is on purpose. Try and imagine if they did. Dear God, no one would play these games.
Anything that happens during beta/production is subject to change. Anything that happens in the LIVE game is subject to change.
MMORPG 101.
Welcome to the genre kids!
Don't you know? People on message boards MUST be kept up to date on every corporate decision, no matter how trivial or mundane, even if they don't play the game they're whining about.
Also, every minor crisis and/or issue related to an MMO MUST be turned into armchair lawyer fodder, wtih so-called experts throwing around terms like fraud and deceptive trade practices like they know what the hell they're talking about. It's tradition around here.
Pretty soon the free month will be gone, and some (not all of course) will die down.
These are not the textures you are looking for.
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I was the one that told Conan he should make his game F2P.
Mabye you didnt hear anyone say that
But I bet you did hear alot of people saying... "im not sure about buying this game, but i guess I will, the story looks interesting and the graphics look pretty good and its star wars so i guess Ill toss down 60 to play"
Im sure alot of people including myself would have changed their minds if we knew the "pretty good" graphics where going to turn into shit graphics shortly after launch
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
Also the hypocrisy on this thread is staggering
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
Lol XD
Zing!
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Epic... Just Epic!
This is currently the highest setting available ( the current Medium they now change to the new High setting):
http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/7371/swtor2012011110050596.jpg
http://h9.abload.de/img/swtortexturesteav5.jpg
You call this a minor detail?? Even friggin' WoW has higher resolution armor on player characters for crying out loud! A 7 year old game that was flamed to death about their bad graphics!
Umm aren't they just removing the "medium" option and the "high" graphics option after the patch will look exactly the same as the "high" option now?
And at a later date they'll patch back in the ultra or whatever textures...
Or you can just edit your files or some such?
Still trying to figure out why this is an issue...
Not like I'm going to log in the day of the patch and my graphic are going to change. They're just changing the labels of the options.
This has nothing to do with the topic, but 'drama mamas', lol! Never heard that term used before ^_^
Gotta remember that one for future use, usually a lot of 'drama mamas' around on forums :PAs for the OP topic, I guess some people are majorly upset, some are just jumping on the bandwagon, and for some it isn't an issue. To me, I see it as a storm in a teacup, but I see most of the things people get upset about regarding games in that light, especially after reading the newspaper or having watched a news program; in the grander scheme of real life I even find it sort of embarassing, the things people get upset or emotional about with games compared to what's really important. But that's me :-/
LMAO! PERFECT!
No no no... they removed the high settings and renamed medium to high.... thats why its an issue ... the high setting are GONE after the patch
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
Again -- all my graphics are maxed out and I'm getting anywhere from 95-110 FPS when I play with no lag, and on a mid-range PC that cost me less than $1000.
What's the problem again? Oh, right. That the game doesn't look like Skyrim. Carry on.