I read the reviews on game review sites and they seem to give this game high ratings. But when I come here it's all doom and gloom. Should I even try this game or is it really that bad?
This site is full of people that only like games taht aren't out yet or games that were released 12 years ago.
The best I can tell you, if you have played and liked Bioware single player RPGs, and a multiplayer version of one of those sounds fun, you will probably like TOR. If you are expecting SWG2, you won't like it.
LOL! True.
Yea,people still play Chess and its like 1500 years old,man that must be terrible!
Apples and Oranges. If Chess was in the same arena, peeps would bash it as predictable. The games from 12 years ago had a lower bar to reach, and also benefitted from being forerunners. The fond memory filter also makes those games stand out as precious worlds where everything you wanted to do was available and fun.
Worst case scenario is you pay for the box and get at least 1 month of enjoy ment from leveling up
No that wouldnt be the worst case. Thats a Better Case Senario
Worst case would be that he pays $60 and finds out he hates it and has wasted his money
Tried: EQ2 - AC - EU - HZ - TR - MxO - TTO - WURM - SL - VG:SoH - PotBS - PS - AoC - WAR - DDO - SWTOR Played: UO - EQ1 - AO - DAoC - NC - CoH/CoV - SWG - WoW - EVE - AA - LotRO - DFO - STO - FE - MO - RIFT Playing: Skyrim Following: The Repopulation I want a Virtual World, not just a Game. ITS TOO HARD! - Matt Firor (ZeniMax)
It's not bad. Pros are interactive dialogues and that you tend to group a lot more than you do in other theme park MMOs. Cons are that in terms of gameplay there really isn't much new to see here, plus there's a certain lack of immersion in the world(s). And I'm not sure how much grouping you can do while leveling anymore since the population has dropped significantly (by my guess, at least).
I enjoyed the game for most of the free month, but started getting a bit bored by the end. Decided I didn't want to renew my sub after that. It was really fun in the beginning because of the dialogues and the fact that it was so easy to find people to group with to do the veritable ton of leveling group content.
I read the reviews on game review sites and they seem to give this game high ratings. But when I come here it's all doom and gloom. Should I even try this game or is it really that bad?
This site is full of people that only like games taht aren't out yet or games that were released 12 years ago.
The best I can tell you, if you have played and liked Bioware single player RPGs, and a multiplayer version of one of those sounds fun, you will probably like TOR. If you are expecting SWG2, you won't like it.
LOL! True.
Yea,people still play Chess and its like 1500 years old,man that must be terrible!
Apples and Oranges. If Chess was in the same arena, peeps would bash it as predictable. The games from 12 years ago had a lower bar to reach, and also benefitted from being forerunners. The fond memory filter also makes those games stand out as precious worlds where everything you wanted to do was available and fun.
Yes exactly. They would say just like that "Maan that Chess was so good game 12 years ago and now it sucks because Queen doesnt look so good anymore"
I read the reviews on game review sites and they seem to give this game high ratings. But when I come here it's all doom and gloom. Should I even try this game or is it really that bad?
This site is full of people that only like games taht aren't out yet or games that were released 12 years ago.
The best I can tell you, if you have played and liked Bioware single player RPGs, and a multiplayer version of one of those sounds fun, you will probably like TOR. If you are expecting SWG2, you won't like it.
LOL! True.
Yea,people still play Chess and its like 1500 years old,man that must be terrible!
Apples and Oranges. If Chess was in the same arena, peeps would bash it as predictable. The games from 12 years ago had a lower bar to reach, and also benefitted from being forerunners. The fond memory filter also makes those games stand out as precious worlds where everything you wanted to do was available and fun.
Yes exactly. They would say just like that "Maan that Chess was so good game 12 years ago and now it sucks because Queen doesnt look so good anymore"
lol. I missed your emphasis the first time. well played, Checkmate.
It's not bad. Pros are interactive dialogues and that you tend to group a lot more than you do in other theme park MMOs. Cons are that in terms of gameplay there really isn't much new to see here, plus there's a certain lack of immersion in the world(s). And I'm not sure how much grouping you can do while leveling anymore since the population has dropped significantly (by my guess, at least).
I enjoyed the game for most of the free month, but started getting a bit bored by the end. Decided I didn't want to renew my sub after that. It was really fun in the beginning because of the dialogues and the fact that it was so easy to find people to group with to do the veritable ton of leveling group content.
Group alot more? Please tell me how this game tend to make you group alot more. The main feature of this game are class story-lines which can all be done solo at your own pace.
Flash points and heroic quests are done in groups but they are completely optional. I have done only a handful and I can progress the game, and do most storylines, just fine without them
That's a matter of opinion. Mine happens to be yes, it's a bad game.
There has only been one other MMO that i couldn't bear to get at least one toon to level cap before quitting, and that was Aion. SWTOR is unbearablly boring, mundane and repetitive.
This site is full of people that only like games taht aren't out yet or games that were released 12 years ago.
The best I can tell you, if you have played and liked Bioware single player RPGs, and a multiplayer version of one of those sounds fun, you will probably like TOR. If you are expecting SWG2, you won't like it.
It's not a bad game. I mostly enjoyed my time with it, and don't regret the purchase overall. If you do buy it don't get the 'digital deluxe' or w/e its called, it's a waste of an extra $20.
Only real reason I quit was lack of stuff to do at cap, and in protest of the day 1 ME3 DLC. I won't support business practices like that. Sigh, I could be playing ME3 right now...
This site is full of people that only like games taht aren't out yet or games that were released 12 years ago.
The best I can tell you, if you have played and liked Bioware single player RPGs, and a multiplayer version of one of those sounds fun, you will probably like TOR. If you are expecting SWG2, you won't like it.
Bingo! We have a winner!
+1
I agree - the stories are interesting to play through once, but once your done with them, not a lot else. It's difficult to find groups for group content (most of the planets you are on have less than a dozen other people on them at the same time, and the odds of them being at the same stage for the group content is low), so it's basically a single player game with other people running around in it.
For me, it was worth the box cost for the regular version, and maybe a month or two of sub time beyond that just to see the stories play out that I'm interested in. But once I'm done with that, unless things change significantly, I probably won't stay subbed.
I read the reviews on game review sites and they seem to give this game high ratings. But when I come here it's all doom and gloom. Should I even try this game or is it really that bad?
The last place you should be asking that question is on here.
It's a fun game for a while but I became quickly bored after I hit 50 on my second character. I hit battle master on my Juggernaut and realized what I had been doing was pointless, so out of pure boredom I leveled an Assassin (even more pointless) to 50 but quit days later.
I read the reviews on game review sites and they seem to give this game high ratings. But when I come here it's all doom and gloom. Should I even try this game or is it really that bad?
Ask yourself this. Who has an invested interest in giving good/bad reviews for this game and who has no stake in it?
I read the reviews on game review sites and they seem to give this game high ratings. But when I come here it's all doom and gloom. Should I even try this game or is it really that bad?
Ask yourself this. Who has an invested interest in giving good/bad reviews for this game and who has no stake in it?
Ask yourself the same thing. No one here has a stake in TOR, its something they play or don't play, that's it.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
2) you've burnt yourself out playing wow-styled games for the last 7 years and want a change
3) you are fooled into thinking space is big and you have any kind of true choice in the course of the game
4) you like having end game content
It will be good for you if:
1) You don't mind total linearity in an online game
2) you don't mind cringeworthy voice acting and ok-to-meh storylines
3) you like helping pay for George Lucas' multi-chin removal surgery
For me, it had a good solid months decent playability in it till the Star Wars novelty wore off and the repetitive nature of the gameplay made me weep. Do I regret playing it? Not really. Was it worth the steep box cost? Hell no.
I read the reviews on game review sites and they seem to give this game high ratings. But when I come here it's all doom and gloom. Should I even try this game or is it really that bad?
Ask yourself this. Who has an invested interest in giving good/bad reviews for this game and who has no stake in it?
Thats not really saying much.
Even less so when reviewing the MMO genre where everyone has favorites. If someone is looking forward to GW2 or TERA do you really think that they'll be far to TOR or WoW? I mean whats the point those two games suck and GW2/TERA will be awesome if everyone see how bad TOR/WoW are they'll all play my game.
Personal review don't really say much, because instead of looking at things such as feature and content they generally turn into, "This is why this game suck/rocks".
In the case of TOR a lot of the so called "reviews" sound like, "TOR DOES NOT INNOVATE!11!!1!! Negative 5".
I read the reviews on game review sites and they seem to give this game high ratings. But when I come here it's all doom and gloom. Should I even try this game or is it really that bad?
The game is fun enough.
As others have mentioned, it plays a lot like a single player bioware game, with a few multiplayer aspects tacked on. If u wanna wait, there are also buddy keys coming soonish.
To put it bluntly, the most accurate description of this game I've heard is 'it's good, but not great. It does a lot of things, but none of them particularly well'. The only exception to this, I would say is the story. This game tells a story exceptionally well for an MMO. While some of the plotlines are a bit weaker than others, the voice acting is fairly top-notch for an MMO. In all other aspects of the game, though, it's average at best. They are working on that, though.
If Bioware would have made TOR more sandpark and really melted the two together like Archeage looks to be, i do believe the game would have been much better. In TOR you never slow down, kinda like a hampster running in a wheel on speed. There is no take a break systems that allows for interesting out of combat activites. ,which is ashame because the RP value of the SW IP is so deep and vast. The story gets you from point a to b and is done well, but sometimes you just want to get off the ride and do your own thing, PVP and the mini space game really doesn't count. Like i posted before, there is absolutly no exploration in this game, none. Every inch on every planet has a purpose and a quest tied to it. Bioware touted the 4 pillars of mmo's.
Exploration = none
Combat = To much
Progression = well done
Story = well done
So out of the 4, Bioware got 2 really right, 1 just to much, not enough down time/social activites and 1 that is a miserable fail.
I read the reviews on game review sites and they seem to give this game high ratings. But when I come here it's all doom and gloom. Should I even try this game or is it really that bad?
You need to look closer as to why the posts here and in other places come off as you say "doom and gloom" like. There are so many reasons listed by the more intelligent posts, laying out line by line why those posters do not like the game. Since I honestly don't feel like doing a line by line top twenty of why I do think it "really is that bad", I'll simply say yes... it is that bad.
If you enjoy paying a subscription to play a single player game, but sub par story line , then you'll love SW.
Fixe'd it for you. Apart of that it is just WoW in a new skin.
My issue with this is that they failed in simply re-skinning WoW. Had they done that, they'd have at least had the same level of game, wouldn't they? They failed even at re-skinning, Bioware even makes Funcom's AoC look like a success.
I read the reviews on game review sites and they seem to give this game high ratings. But when I come here it's all doom and gloom. Should I even try this game or is it really that bad?
A friend gave me the game free... and I still could not play it.
The game is a single player game with multi-player tacked on.
ToR in no way or shape or form feels like a online game world to play in, it feels like a huge empty zone with very linear story driven quests with cutscenes and nothing to do after you finish the class quest/story line.
Oh my bad there is the broken unbalanced PVP on the same boring maps over and over and all PVE has to offer end game is chase that carrot for better gear.
Bioware must have done ToR like this on purpose so that when they make the Mass Effect MMO people will play it and trust me... I look for the Mass Effect MMO to capture that online world/explore adventure/risk vs reward.
Played: MCO - EQ/EQ2 - WoW - VG - WAR - AoC - LoTRO - DDO - GW/GW2 - Eve - Rift - FE - TSW - TSO - WS - ESO - AA - BD Playing: Sims 3 & 4, Diablo3 and PoE Waiting on: Lost Ark Who's going to make a Cyberpunk MMO?
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No that wouldnt be the worst case. Thats a Better Case Senario
Worst case would be that he pays $60 and finds out he hates it and has wasted his money
Tried: EQ2 - AC - EU - HZ - TR - MxO - TTO - WURM - SL - VG:SoH - PotBS - PS - AoC - WAR - DDO - SWTOR
Played: UO - EQ1 - AO - DAoC - NC - CoH/CoV - SWG - WoW - EVE - AA - LotRO - DFO - STO - FE - MO - RIFT
Playing: Skyrim
Following: The Repopulation
I want a Virtual World, not just a Game.
ITS TOO HARD! - Matt Firor (ZeniMax)
It's not bad. Pros are interactive dialogues and that you tend to group a lot more than you do in other theme park MMOs. Cons are that in terms of gameplay there really isn't much new to see here, plus there's a certain lack of immersion in the world(s). And I'm not sure how much grouping you can do while leveling anymore since the population has dropped significantly (by my guess, at least).
I enjoyed the game for most of the free month, but started getting a bit bored by the end. Decided I didn't want to renew my sub after that. It was really fun in the beginning because of the dialogues and the fact that it was so easy to find people to group with to do the veritable ton of leveling group content.
Bad like "crappy" or... bad like Michael Jackson singing the song "Bad"?
Enter a whole new realm of challenge and adventure.
Yes exactly. They would say just like that "Maan that Chess was so good game 12 years ago and now it sucks because Queen doesnt look so good anymore"
Let's internet
The game is not bad, the MMORPG is bad.
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lol. I missed your emphasis the first time. well played, Checkmate.
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Group alot more? Please tell me how this game tend to make you group alot more. The main feature of this game are class story-lines which can all be done solo at your own pace.
Flash points and heroic quests are done in groups but they are completely optional. I have done only a handful and I can progress the game, and do most storylines, just fine without them
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That's a matter of opinion. Mine happens to be yes, it's a bad game.
There has only been one other MMO that i couldn't bear to get at least one toon to level cap before quitting, and that was Aion. SWTOR is unbearablly boring, mundane and repetitive.
Bingo! We have a winner!
It's not a bad game. I mostly enjoyed my time with it, and don't regret the purchase overall. If you do buy it don't get the 'digital deluxe' or w/e its called, it's a waste of an extra $20.
Only real reason I quit was lack of stuff to do at cap, and in protest of the day 1 ME3 DLC. I won't support business practices like that. Sigh, I could be playing ME3 right now...
+1
I agree - the stories are interesting to play through once, but once your done with them, not a lot else. It's difficult to find groups for group content (most of the planets you are on have less than a dozen other people on them at the same time, and the odds of them being at the same stage for the group content is low), so it's basically a single player game with other people running around in it.
For me, it was worth the box cost for the regular version, and maybe a month or two of sub time beyond that just to see the stories play out that I'm interested in. But once I'm done with that, unless things change significantly, I probably won't stay subbed.
The last place you should be asking that question is on here.
It's a fun game for a while but I became quickly bored after I hit 50 on my second character. I hit battle master on my Juggernaut and realized what I had been doing was pointless, so out of pure boredom I leveled an Assassin (even more pointless) to 50 but quit days later.
Ask yourself this. Who has an invested interest in giving good/bad reviews for this game and who has no stake in it?
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Ask yourself the same thing. No one here has a stake in TOR, its something they play or don't play, that's it.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
It will bad for you if:
1) you expect too much from it.
2) you've burnt yourself out playing wow-styled games for the last 7 years and want a change
3) you are fooled into thinking space is big and you have any kind of true choice in the course of the game
4) you like having end game content
It will be good for you if:
1) You don't mind total linearity in an online game
2) you don't mind cringeworthy voice acting and ok-to-meh storylines
3) you like helping pay for George Lucas' multi-chin removal surgery
For me, it had a good solid months decent playability in it till the Star Wars novelty wore off and the repetitive nature of the gameplay made me weep. Do I regret playing it? Not really. Was it worth the steep box cost? Hell no.
Thats not really saying much.
Even less so when reviewing the MMO genre where everyone has favorites. If someone is looking forward to GW2 or TERA do you really think that they'll be far to TOR or WoW? I mean whats the point those two games suck and GW2/TERA will be awesome if everyone see how bad TOR/WoW are they'll all play my game.
Personal review don't really say much, because instead of looking at things such as feature and content they generally turn into, "This is why this game suck/rocks".
In the case of TOR a lot of the so called "reviews" sound like, "TOR DOES NOT INNOVATE!11!!1!! Negative 5".
The game is fun enough.
As others have mentioned, it plays a lot like a single player bioware game, with a few multiplayer aspects tacked on. If u wanna wait, there are also buddy keys coming soonish.
To put it bluntly, the most accurate description of this game I've heard is 'it's good, but not great. It does a lot of things, but none of them particularly well'. The only exception to this, I would say is the story. This game tells a story exceptionally well for an MMO. While some of the plotlines are a bit weaker than others, the voice acting is fairly top-notch for an MMO. In all other aspects of the game, though, it's average at best. They are working on that, though.
If Bioware would have made TOR more sandpark and really melted the two together like Archeage looks to be, i do believe the game would have been much better. In TOR you never slow down, kinda like a hampster running in a wheel on speed. There is no take a break systems that allows for interesting out of combat activites. ,which is ashame because the RP value of the SW IP is so deep and vast. The story gets you from point a to b and is done well, but sometimes you just want to get off the ride and do your own thing, PVP and the mini space game really doesn't count. Like i posted before, there is absolutly no exploration in this game, none. Every inch on every planet has a purpose and a quest tied to it. Bioware touted the 4 pillars of mmo's.
Exploration = none
Combat = To much
Progression = well done
Story = well done
So out of the 4, Bioware got 2 really right, 1 just to much, not enough down time/social activites and 1 that is a miserable fail.
Fixe'd it for you. Apart of that it is just WoW in a new skin.
You need to look closer as to why the posts here and in other places come off as you say "doom and gloom" like. There are so many reasons listed by the more intelligent posts, laying out line by line why those posters do not like the game. Since I honestly don't feel like doing a line by line top twenty of why I do think it "really is that bad", I'll simply say yes... it is that bad.
My issue with this is that they failed in simply re-skinning WoW. Had they done that, they'd have at least had the same level of game, wouldn't they? They failed even at re-skinning, Bioware even makes Funcom's AoC look like a success.
Let me put it like this...if this was a Stargate or Battlestar galactica MMo it would be awesome..but we talkin bout Star Wars!
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A friend gave me the game free... and I still could not play it.
The game is a single player game with multi-player tacked on.
ToR in no way or shape or form feels like a online game world to play in, it feels like a huge empty zone with very linear story driven quests with cutscenes and nothing to do after you finish the class quest/story line.
Oh my bad there is the broken unbalanced PVP on the same boring maps over and over and all PVE has to offer end game is chase that carrot for better gear.
Bioware must have done ToR like this on purpose so that when they make the Mass Effect MMO people will play it and trust me... I look for the Mass Effect MMO to capture that online world/explore adventure/risk vs reward.
Played: MCO - EQ/EQ2 - WoW - VG - WAR - AoC - LoTRO - DDO - GW/GW2 - Eve - Rift - FE - TSW - TSO - WS - ESO - AA - BD
Playing: Sims 3 & 4, Diablo3 and PoE
Waiting on: Lost Ark
Who's going to make a Cyberpunk MMO?