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Best game release 3 months prior

Totally worth buying. Yes games have probs. You can't compare the detail and attention poured into this game to any other 3 month release. Experienced gamer report! Definate win.

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  • DollMighty8313DollMighty8313 Member Posts: 179

    "Probs" that currently exist:


    1. Poor Guild UI

    2. Terrible Auction House

    3. Have to re-form goups after every warzone

    4. Horrible Imbalance in servers factions

    5. dead servers

    6. imperial fleet is idiotic idea for social hub

    7. fps issues even for top end pc's

    8. IIlum is so terrible even Bioware are removing it.

    9. Lvl 50 PvP is pointless

    10. LvL 50 Pvp is impossible for a newly reached level 50 player.

    11. None existant customer service

    12. poor maintainence times

    13. numerous friends list bugs

    14. dead planets in reference to people

    15. dead planets in reference to NPC's not ever moving.

    16. No LFG feature

    17. 90% of pvp matches will be huttball

    18. horrible UI

    19. pointless professions

    20. bugged professions

    21. bugged class quests

    22. jawa balloon quest is ridiuclous and bugged

    23. unabandonable quests

    24. 9+ Players in one WZ team bug

    25. broken economy on servers due to poor price points of purchaesable items

    26. rampant botting

    27. Loot system is locked in, if someone rolls ur class ur screwed

    28. poor textures that we didn't have in beta, they were dumbed down at release because of the game engine.

    29. WZ's dont always count for daily quest STILL

    30. getting stuck in invisible zones in WZs

    31. lack of space content (really? samer thing over and over again?)

    32. a reverse engineering bug that they ignore

    33. trinkets that dont release you from the animation

    34. lack of endgame content

    35. pointless lvl 50 pvp gear

    36. pointless craftables at level 50

    37. Companion bug where everything stops when they return

    38. LAME character creation

    39. Overload of constant "Side Quests" (which are also unabandonable.)

    40. Ships are stale and pointless

    41. excessive loading times

    42. Almost no immersion in the game.

    43. Can't even use chairs

    44. Linear worlds, you are funneled to every segment of all planets

    45. Even open planets are small due to the "exhaustion zones"

    46. Games Laucher causes people problems just about every patch

    47. Does not support CrossFireX or SLI in 2011!  WTH!

    48. Virtually no support for ATI GPU's

    49. Forced to watch every cutscene even if you've seen it 100 times if you group.  Spacebar to skip is STILL slow as hell.

    50. Despite what all the fanboi's are saying the people are leaving the game.  1.7Mil in january and 1.7 mil in March says Bioware are only sustaining as best, but NOT growing.
  • Kaelano1Kaelano1 Member Posts: 375

    Lol, you didn't play many other games in their first 6 months, did you...

     

    and as you see by my post count and previous posts, I'm not just some bioware employee.

     

    Also, alot in that list has been or is being remedied in the next few weeks with 1.2 and very little of it severely impacts gaming experience on any regular basis.

  • proponentproponent Member UncommonPosts: 92

    SWTOR was the last nail for me. Now I come here for the latest news but will not rejoin the MMO scene until something drastic changes. 

     

    So thank you SWTOR for making me a complete cynic when it comes too all new MMOs.

  • //\//\oo//\//\oo Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,767

    I am completely convinced of your view and will purchase this game immediately.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    On a side note, I won't, because it sucks.

     

    This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.

  • SomeOldBlokeSomeOldBloke Member UncommonPosts: 2,167

    Originally posted by Kaelano1

    Lol, you didn't play many other games in their first 6 months, did you...

     

    and as you see by my post count and previous posts, I'm not just some bioware employee.

     

    Also, alot in that list has been or is being remedied in the next few weeks with 1.2 and very little of it severely impacts gaming experience on any regular basis.

    Everything he said is true... he even missed some. And if you think Patch 1.2 is a 'Cure All' you are sadly mistaken. I've probably played 6-8 major MMOs at release and althoug SWTOR is not the worst (STO) it's no the best either. Most of the these issues should have been fixed in beta and defintiely before release. Unfortunately the game is designed badly with to much reliance on VOs and Cut Scenes but unfortunatly this is fluff and without them the game is severyly lacking in too many areas.

  • junzo316junzo316 Member UncommonPosts: 1,712

    Originally posted by dollada06

    "Probs" that currently exist:


    1. Poor Guild UI

    2. Terrible Auction House

    3. Have to re-form goups after every warzone

    4. Horrible Imbalance in servers factions

    5. dead servers

    6. imperial fleet is idiotic idea for social hub

    7. fps issues even for top end pc's

    8. IIlum is so terrible even Bioware are removing it.

    9. Lvl 50 PvP is pointless

    10. LvL 50 Pvp is impossible for a newly reached level 50 player.

    11. None existant customer service

    12. poor maintainence times

    13. numerous friends list bugs

    14. dead planets in reference to people

    15. dead planets in reference to NPC's not ever moving.

    16. No LFG feature

    17. 90% of pvp matches will be huttball

    18. horrible UI

    19. pointless professions

    20. bugged professions

    21. bugged class quests

    22. jawa balloon quest is ridiuclous and bugged

    23. unabandonable quests

    24. 9+ Players in one WZ team bug

    25. broken economy on servers due to poor price points of purchaesable items

    26. rampant botting

    27. Loot system is locked in, if someone rolls ur class ur screwed

    28. poor textures that we didn't have in beta, they were dumbed down at release because of the game engine.

    29. WZ's dont always count for daily quest STILL

    30. getting stuck in invisible zones in WZs

    31. lack of space content (really? samer thing over and over again?)

    32. a reverse engineering bug that they ignore

    33. trinkets that dont release you from the animation

    34. lack of endgame content

    35. pointless lvl 50 pvp gear

    36. pointless craftables at level 50

    37. Companion bug where everything stops when they return

    38. LAME character creation

    39. Overload of constant "Side Quests" (which are also unabandonable.)

    40. Ships are stale and pointless

    41. excessive loading times

    42. Almost no immersion in the game.

    43. Can't even use chairs

    44. Linear worlds, you are funneled to every segment of all planets

    45. Even open planets are small due to the "exhaustion zones"

    46. Games Laucher causes people problems just about every patch

    47. Does not support CrossFireX or SLI in 2011!  WTH!

    48. Virtually no support for ATI GPU's

    49. Forced to watch every cutscene even if you've seen it 100 times if you group.  Spacebar to skip is STILL slow as hell.

    50. Despite what all the fanboi's are saying the people are leaving the game.  1.7Mil in january and 1.7 mil in March says Bioware are only sustaining as best, but NOT growing.



    A lot of these are opinion based, but most are true.   I'm still enjoying the game, though.  Yes, we all know the game has some issues, but, to me they are trivial and don't impact how I play the game.  I find myself more immersed in this MMORPG, than any other I've played in a very long time.   Will I be playing six months from now? Who knows, but I am enjoying it for what it is now.

  • leroysgleroysg Member UncommonPosts: 97

    agreed with the OP said (almost 99% of it), I have not been logging in for past 1 month and still within 90days sub plan  (should be expiring somewhere in April) , should have sub under monthly recurring plan instead...grhhh 

     

     

  • oubersoubers Member UncommonPosts: 855

    Originally posted by dollada06

    "Probs" that currently exist:


    1. Poor Guild UI

    2. Terrible Auction House

    3. Have to re-form goups after every warzone

    4. Horrible Imbalance in servers factions

    5. dead servers

    6. imperial fleet is idiotic idea for social hub

    7. fps issues even for top end pc's

    8. IIlum is so terrible even Bioware are removing it.

    9. Lvl 50 PvP is pointless

    10. LvL 50 Pvp is impossible for a newly reached level 50 player.

    11. None existant customer service

    12. poor maintainence times

    13. numerous friends list bugs

    14. dead planets in reference to people

    15. dead planets in reference to NPC's not ever moving.

    16. No LFG feature

    17. 90% of pvp matches will be huttball

    18. horrible UI

    19. pointless professions

    20. bugged professions

    21. bugged class quests

    22. jawa balloon quest is ridiuclous and bugged

    23. unabandonable quests

    24. 9+ Players in one WZ team bug

    25. broken economy on servers due to poor price points of purchaesable items

    26. rampant botting

    27. Loot system is locked in, if someone rolls ur class ur screwed

    28. poor textures that we didn't have in beta, they were dumbed down at release because of the game engine.

    29. WZ's dont always count for daily quest STILL

    30. getting stuck in invisible zones in WZs

    31. lack of space content (really? samer thing over and over again?)

    32. a reverse engineering bug that they ignore

    33. trinkets that dont release you from the animation

    34. lack of endgame content

    35. pointless lvl 50 pvp gear

    36. pointless craftables at level 50

    37. Companion bug where everything stops when they return

    38. LAME character creation

    39. Overload of constant "Side Quests" (which are also unabandonable.)

    40. Ships are stale and pointless

    41. excessive loading times

    42. Almost no immersion in the game.

    43. Can't even use chairs

    44. Linear worlds, you are funneled to every segment of all planets

    45. Even open planets are small due to the "exhaustion zones"

    46. Games Laucher causes people problems just about every patch

    47. Does not support CrossFireX or SLI in 2011!  WTH!

    48. Virtually no support for ATI GPU's

    49. Forced to watch every cutscene even if you've seen it 100 times if you group.  Spacebar to skip is STILL slow as hell.

    50. Despite what all the fanboi's are saying the people are leaving the game.  1.7Mil in january and 1.7 mil in March says Bioware are only sustaining as best, but NOT growing.

    NVIDIA.....the way it's meant to be played.....FTW :) hahaha

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  • TorvanusTorvanus Member Posts: 17

    That's funny how you got exactly 50 points like 50 levels in TOR.

  • ThorkuneThorkune Member UncommonPosts: 1,969

    I am loving the game and I am excited for future patches and expansions.

  • hotixhotix Member UncommonPosts: 130

    Everyone that loves the game is <50. That means not level 50. Once you reach 50 you quit 1-2 weeks later, simple as that. Reasons you shouldn't buy Swtor 

    #1. It sucks in all area's, except VO, "which it's just meh there". Reason being you have to watch all the stupid cutscenes 3000000000000000x.

    #2. It's a worse version than it was in beta. 1.2 is just a few months prior to release beta verision. 

    I'm not going to go 50 numbers down although I could. The game is bad period. Eq f2p is way more fun than I ever had in Swtor just sayin.

  • spacebotspacebot Member UncommonPosts: 148

    To me Swtor is like a movie. Once your done watching it. Your done. Some of the classes had an odd feeling to the combat. Kinda like you're a very fat three year old kid trying to copy the duel of the fates, with your plastic lightsaber, on the family pet. The the pet is a goldfish in a tank. Then the kid next door comes over and its just one big flurry of inept swordmanship. Then your older sister walks in with a supersoaker and your all wet.

  • KaocanKaocan Member UncommonPosts: 1,270

    Originally posted by dollada06

    "Probs" that currently exist:


    1. Poor Guild UI - patch 1.2

    2. Terrible Auction House - opinion

    3. Have to re-form goups after every warzone - correct

    4. Horrible Imbalance in servers factions - correct

    5. dead servers - dont know, can't respond  - mine is NOT dead, but yours may be.

    6. imperial fleet is idiotic idea for social hub - opinion

    7. fps issues even for top end pc's - List details please - not seeing this AT ALL

    8. IIlum is so terrible even Bioware are removing it. - correct

    9. Lvl 50 PvP is pointless - correct

    10. LvL 50 Pvp is impossible for a newly reached level 50 player. - opinion - NO it is not impossible for new level 50s. It sucks at first, but you can overcome the gear imbalance when you first get there. This is a problem in EVERY MMO that has special gear for level cap ONLY in PvP. The only way to fix this is take away the gear grind in PvP PERIOD. I'd say LTP - but thats not 100% your fault that you are having a hard time, but it is your fault that your spending time bitching about it not being FAIR, instead of buckin up and diggin in your heals and just pushing through it. If your good at it, you will get by.

    11. None existant customer service - opinion - never had a problem yet - must be YOU

    12. poor maintainence times - opinion - maint times hit exactly when I am at work every single time - PERFECT maintenance times for me, and I'm going to guess PERFECT maintenance times for everyone else who works day shift.

    13. numerous friends list bugs - List details please - not seeing this AT ALL

    14. dead planets in reference to people - opinion - I list this as opinion because you obviously do not know how the game is designed and how it shards/phases each planet out. Not your fault here though, it really is a bad design in that it makes the game feel emptier than it is. 

    15. dead planets in reference to NPC's not ever moving. - correct - seriously though, your game is bad because you dont have NPCs that move for you? Go play CoH, there are a ton of them that walk all over there, should make you all warm and fuzzy inside.

    16. No LFG feature - correct - dont need, dont care

    17. 90% of pvp matches will be huttball - List details please - not seeing this AT ALL

    18. horrible UI - patch 1.2

    19. pointless professions - opinion

    20. bugged professions - List details please - not seeing this anymore - were some a while back, but they patched them out.

    21. bugged class quests - List details please - not seeing this anymore - were some a while back, but they patched them out.

    22. jawa balloon quest is ridiuclous and bugged - opinion

    23. unabandonable quests - List details please - not seeing this anymore - were some a while back, but they patched them out.

    24. 9+ Players in one WZ team bug - List details please - not seeing this anymore - was an issue a while back but got patched out.

    25. broken economy on servers due to poor price points of purchaesable items - opinion

    26. rampant botting - List details please - not seeing this AT ALL - seriously?!?! 'rampant' ?!?! do all these botters count towards the dead servers and the empty planets you talk about in your list? I mean are they invisable botters that nobody can see? Are you one? Maybe this is how you know its happening.

    27. Loot system is locked in, if someone rolls ur class ur screwed - opinion - might I suggest you play with people who have better attitudes - or maybe have a better one yourself and then people wont steal all YOUR LOOTZ that YOU DESERVE cause its YOUR CLASS and all.

    28. poor textures that we didn't have in beta, they were dumbed down at release because of the game engine. - patch 1.2

    29. WZ's dont always count for daily quest STILL - List details please - not seeing this anymore

    30. getting stuck in invisible zones in WZs - personal problem, please find and fix your PC compatability issues - NOT SEEN BY EVERYONE

    31. lack of space content (really? samer thing over and over again?) - correct

    32. a reverse engineering bug that they ignore - List details please - not seeing this AT ALL

    33. trinkets that dont release you from the animation - List details please - not seeing this AT ALL

    34. lack of endgame content - opinion

    35. pointless lvl 50 pvp gear - correct

    36. pointless craftables at level 50 - opinion - really, Rakata gear is pointless?

    37. Companion bug where everything stops when they return - List details please - not seeing this AT ALL

    38. LAME character creation - opinion

    39. Overload of constant "Side Quests" (which are also unabandonable.) - opinion

    40. Ships are stale and pointless - opinion

    41. excessive loading times - personal problem, please find and fix your PC compatability issues - NOT SEEN BY EVERYONE - As a matter of fact I helped one of my buddies who plays SWTOR with this one. We upgraded his PC with a few parts that brought him out of the stone age (WoW ulta mode PC). His load times are great now, most of the bugs you mentioned he had and they vanished on the upgrade. 

    42. Almost no immersion in the game. - opinion

    43. Can't even use chairs - correct -again, this is a game breaker for you - go play FFXIV, lots of seating available there, another warm fuzzy for your gaming enjoyment - I know how much being able to sit down helped FFXIV

    44. Linear worlds, you are funneled to every segment of all planets - opinion - ok so are they ALL linear or are some open like you state in the next sentance?

    45. Even open planets are small due to the "exhaustion zones" - opinion

    46. Games Laucher causes people problems just about every patch - opinion - not me, not on a single patch

    47. Does not support CrossFireX or SLI in 2011!  WTH! - correct

    48. Virtually no support for ATI GPU's - correct

    49. Forced to watch every cutscene even if you've seen it 100 times if you group.  Spacebar to skip is STILL slow as hell. - correct - relax man, decaf is your friend. Might I suggest a couple months of play in LoTRO, its anice slow paced and very relaxed atmosphere. It will bring you down to the level of human being again so you dont spazz out on the VO in SWTOR. Enjoy!! It really is a great game.

    50. Despite what all the fanboi's are saying the people are leaving the game.  1.7Mil in january and 1.7 mil in March says Bioware are only sustaining as best, but NOT growing. - opinion

     

     

    Ok so after reviewing you list of 50 I give you 13 correct, 20 opinions, 3 being fixed in 1.2, 12 that are seen by you and not me, most of those have been identified and patched out in the past (might want to update your info a little, those talking points have already gone away), and finally 2 which are most likely caused by your PC (dont care how uber it is or how new, if your not configured right it will suck, update your drivers, update your hardware, clean off the porn and keyloggers - it really does help to do regular cleanup and maintenance on your PC).

    (DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)

  • ThorkuneThorkune Member UncommonPosts: 1,969

    Originally posted by hotix

    Everyone that loves the game is <50. That means not level 50. Once you reach 50 you quit 1-2 weeks later, simple as that. Reasons you shouldn't buy Swtor 

    #1. It sucks in all area's, except VO, "which it's just meh there". Reason being you have to watch all the stupid cutscenes 3000000000000000x.

    #2. It's a worse version than it was in beta. 1.2 is just a few months prior to release beta verision. 

    I'm not going to go 50 numbers down although I could. The game is bad period. Eq f2p is way more fun than I ever had in Swtor just sayin.

    I have been level 50 for almost 2 months now...assume much?

     

    Here is what I am doing now:

     

    1. I am now getting datacrons that I didn't get while leveling

    2. Crafting and selling my items

    3. Helping guildies level

    4. Building up my social points and companion affection

    5. Doing space dailies to get fleet comms

    6. Warzone grinding for gear and bank 1000 comms for future items

    7. Unlocking codex entries

    There is plenty to do if people would stop whining and just play. Instant gratification players probably won't like this game at all. But, those that want to experience everything that it has to offer will be busy for quite a while.

     

    And...Kaocan is my new hero. I agree with everything you put. Is the game perfect...no. But, I am confident that Bioware is listening and will address ALL major concerns.

  • TeknoBugTeknoBug Member UncommonPosts: 2,156

    Bioware is obviously trying to eliminate pvp'ers from this game, they said before the game was released that it won't be a grindy game, and it's turning into a grindy game. With the heal and dps nerfs, pvp fights will take longer, you won't gain much credit from doing a warzone anymore which in turn forces you to do pve and dailies (again, grindy).


    I think they know Guild Wars 2 is around the corner and want to get rid of the pvp'ers.

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  • TeknoBugTeknoBug Member UncommonPosts: 2,156


    Originally posted by Kaocan

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    None existant customer service - opinion - never had a problem yet - must be YOU
     


    I bought the wrong item off a vendor and sent in a ticket asking for a comm refund or to exchange me the correct weapon, ticket sat unread for 2 weeks and it got closed, sent it again and it got closed again 2 days later. I also sent tickets reporting speedhackers and whatnot, got the "thank you for your concern", days or week later I see the SAME player continuously doing it.

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  • NevulusNevulus Member UncommonPosts: 1,288

    Originally posted by bigsmiff

    Originally posted by hotix

    Everyone that loves the game is <50. That means not level 50. Once you reach 50 you quit 1-2 weeks later, simple as that. Reasons you shouldn't buy Swtor 

    #1. It sucks in all area's, except VO, "which it's just meh there". Reason being you have to watch all the stupid cutscenes 3000000000000000x.

    #2. It's a worse version than it was in beta. 1.2 is just a few months prior to release beta verision. 

    I'm not going to go 50 numbers down although I could. The game is bad period. Eq f2p is way more fun than I ever had in Swtor just sayin.

    I have been level 50 for almost 2 months now...assume much?

     

    Here is what I am doing now:

     

    1. I am now getting datacrons that I didn't get while leveling

    2. Crafting and selling my items

    3. Helping guildies level

    4. Building up my social points and companion affection

    5. Doing space dailies to get fleet comms

    6. Warzone grinding for gear and bank 1000 comms for future items

    7. Unlocking codex entries

    There is plenty to do if people would stop whining and just play. Instant gratification players probably won't like this game at all. But, those that want to experience everything that it has to offer will be busy for quite a while.

     

    And...Kaocan is my new hero. I agree with everything you put. Is the game perfect...no. But, I am confident that Bioware is listening and will address ALL major concerns.

    I wish this forum had more members such as you.  Realistic point of view. Is the game perfect? NO, but it looks awesome, they stood true to the lore, successful launch, lots of players, enjoyable combat, great sound effects, and a new take on the instanced system.

    The choice of professions does bug me, I wasn't too fond of the companion/crafting system but it grew on me. 

    Overall having a good time in game. 

  • KaocanKaocan Member UncommonPosts: 1,270

    Originally posted by sookster54

     




    Originally posted by Kaocan





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    None existant customer service - opinion - never had a problem yet - must be YOU

     

     





     





    I bought the wrong item off a vendor and sent in a ticket asking for a comm refund or to exchange me the correct weapon, ticket sat unread for 2 weeks and it got closed, sent it again and it got closed again 2 days later. I also sent tickets reporting speedhackers and whatnot, got the "thank you for your concern", days or week later I see the SAME player continuously doing it.

     

    Yes, yes, I have heard all kinds of stories about issues on a one by one basis. I personally have opened over 20 tickets with thier customer support to date, not a one has taken more than 48 hours to have a resolution/response. Granted I did have ONE where the out-sourced triage group closed it to automated response 3 times in a row - all 3 were in less than 2 hours TOTAL. I pushed a 4th through with a request for higher technical assistance and was sent through per my request. Within 4 hours I had my logs and directX Daig info in thier hands, and in another hour I had my fix. 

    There is not a single business on the planet that doesn't have someone say they had a bad experience with them on some issue or another. Blanket statements saying the company SUCKS becuase you personally have not gotten everything you wanted the way you wanted it in the time you wanted it done is just selfish and stupid. No company out there has its customer service graded by the ONE personal experience. Metrics are taken, polls are distributed, and the numbers are crunched. My 20+ good experiences on customer service with this company and this game, in the end balances out the one irrate customer who has nothing but curse words to spit out on the survey. There will ALWAYS be outliers. Both on the good and on the bad side. It is the overall that counts. 

    This persons statement of 'nonexistant customer service' is just a plain lie, they do in fact have customer service, really, they do exist. TO stand behind his statement and act like its accurate is just stupid really. Face value his words on this one topic are BS and anyone with half a brain can agree with that statement. Non-existant means just that, doesn't exist, which they do - false, BS, lie. Which ever word you wish to apply to it, its still the same, he is wrong on this one statement. I was nice the first time around saying it was just his opinion. Truth is I should have labled that statement for what it really was, total BS. 

     

    Oh and on a side note - if you believe someone is using a speed hack (or in one case I actually had someone in a WZ gloat about using one) I highly recommend you report them every time you see it. Be polite in the repot and be accurate if you expect a result. Give time stamps, locations, player name, server - every detail you can put into the report. And report them often as you see it happening. Dont just say so and so cheats cause i said so. If you do that the triage group is going to toss it down to a minor and you wont see the light of day on it. They will feed through the reports they feel can be worked and fixed. Biatch sessions rarely get a favorable response. Want you rticket to get looked at? calling them names and cursing at them is the best way to be put on ignore. DO that a lot and even your good cases may be tossed to the bottom of the pile. The guys doing customer service are just like you, they are doing a job, and nobody I know enjoys being told off every day by people for no particularlly good reason. Give respect, and you will get respect, especially when it comes to customer service. It is a two way street.

    (DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)

  • KuppaKuppa Member UncommonPosts: 3,292

    I said it once and Ill say it again. Its a good single player game.

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  • TardcoreTardcore Member Posts: 2,325

    Originally posted by Kaelano1

    Totally worth buying. Yes games have probs. You can't compare the detail and attention poured into this game to any other 3 month release. Experienced gamer report! Definate win.

    Do you mean the almost obsessive detail and attention poured into the VO portion of the game? Or do you instead mean the stunning LACK of detail and attention poured into everything else?

    Yes games have problems? Certainly, nature of the business, but one has to ponder why the hell a game with such a large team, budget and five years to perfect has so many flaws in its basic game design.

    Totally worth buying? Not to me, not in its current state. For those looking for a mostly solocentric, PVE-centric MMO, SWTOR may indeed be their cup of tea, but if they are looking for a little more well rounded MMORPG experiance then I say "Buyer beware".

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  • darkehawkedarkehawke Member Posts: 178

    Originally posted by Kaelano1

    Totally worth buying. Yes games have probs. You can't compare the detail and attention poured into this game to any other 3 month release. Experienced gamer report! Definate win.

    you are joking right

    compare the money spent on this game compared to other games

    now imagine what the other games would have been like if they had a fraction of the SWTOR budget

     

    SWTOR is a solid game, is it worth the subs though? at this point no, it should be free to play. Thats not to say that Bioware cant still pull it back and justify their demand for a sub, but they will have to really pull their finger out and work harder on this game then the half arsed efforts they have put in so far

    Currently playing- SWG PreCU & GW 2
    Have tried WoW, AoC, & Vanguard, SWG:NGE, GW, LOTRO & SWTOR
    Best MMO: SWG
    Worst MMO: SWTOR

  • darkehawkedarkehawke Member Posts: 178

    Originally posted by Tardcore

    Originally posted by Kaelano1

    Totally worth buying. Yes games have probs. You can't compare the detail and attention poured into this game to any other 3 month release. Experienced gamer report! Definate win.

     

    Totally worth buying? Not to me, not in its current state. For those looking for a mostly solocentric, PVE-centric MMO, SWTOR may indeed be their cup of tea, but if they are looking for a little more well rounded MMORPG experiance then I say "Buyer beware".

     

    This right here. but even KOTOR were more alive then this game. it really does need a lot of work!

    Currently playing- SWG PreCU & GW 2
    Have tried WoW, AoC, & Vanguard, SWG:NGE, GW, LOTRO & SWTOR
    Best MMO: SWG
    Worst MMO: SWTOR

  • stragen001stragen001 Member UncommonPosts: 1,720

    Personally I no longer play SWTOR. 

    However numbers dont lie. This game has 1.7million subscribers. That makes it at worst, the 3rd most popular MMO (After WoW and Eve). Thats a massive success no matter which way you look at it. The haters on this site are by no means a fair representation of the MMO playing community as a whole. 

    Anyone that says the 1.7million number is innaccurate doesnt understand corporate liability - If they lie about the subscriber numbers to the shareholders they are commiting a criminal offense. I seriously doubt they are doing that. 

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  • RogoshRogosh Member UncommonPosts: 208

    Originally posted by //\//\oo

    I am completely convinced of your view and will purchase this game immediately.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    On a side note, I won't, because it sucks.

     

    This is win :)

    "Its better to look ugly and win than pretty and lose"

  • YizleYizle Member Posts: 517

    Originally posted by stragen001

    Personally I no longer play SWTOR. 

    However numbers dont lie. This game has 1.7million subscribers. That makes it at worst, the 3rd most popular MMO (After WoW and Eve). Thats a massive success no matter which way you look at it. The haters on this site are by no means a fair representation of the MMO playing community as a whole. 

    Anyone that says the 1.7million number is innaccurate doesnt understand coporate liability - If they lie about the subscriber numbers to the shareholders they are commiting a criminal offense. I seriously doubt they are doing that. 

    And no one would ever fudge numbers or lie to shareholders. Just ask Wall Street

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